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10:01 PM
4 hours ago, by jalf
@Xeo for now, yeah. Could you ping me if anything is done to get rid of the toxic stuff here?
 
I feel like I'm missing something huge here.
 
lol, you have a way of blowing things out of proportion that is p impressive
4
 
Did you kill someone?
 
ars is hacked -> every comment about users using password managers.
@Rapptz He did describe in great detail how he hates all the gays because they're gay.
 
@Rapptz not that I know of; possible though
@Puppy WHAT?
where
 
10:02 PM
@Puppy Hm?
 
when I was in here earlier
start about here
8 hours ago, by Jefffrey
or generally don't like gay people?
 
@Jefffrey this
 
frankly that quote is just self-explanatory really.
 
not really, since it says precisely nothing about Jefffrey's opinions or beliefs
 
Yeah.. not seeing it.
 
10:04 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it was my subconscious talking
 
I already read the transcript.
 
or something
 
All I found was jalf being melodramatic.
 
all I read was Jefffrey desperately trying to justify homophobia
 
mkdir -pv path/to/{dir,or/other{subtree,subtree2/{a..z}}}/. Also, diff -EwburqN. For anti-plagiarism: I detect YAPGAPDP (YetAnotherPostGraduateAntiPlagiarismDetectionProject). There must be some kind of irony there (must keep reinventing wheel; must not duplicate earlier research!) — sehe 2 mins ago
I could be a ways off there.
But in the event I'm exactly spot on this comment was totally worth it
 
10:05 PM
TRWTF is that this room consists partly of several obnoxious individuals who claim to hold some sort of moral superiority over everyone else and use this position to impose moral absolutes from a place of sheer hypocrisy.
8 hours ago, by jalf
When did this place turn into official meeting place for scummy people with hateful and bigoted opinions? Am I the only one who's tired of that shit?
I, for one, won't be losing any sleep.
 
Yeah..
 
tl;dr: learn to accept that some people have opinions different from yours, and learn to recognise that when you start talking like this about them like they are automatically pieces of shit compared to you, you are the hateful bigot.
 
Mar 19 at 14:15, by sehe
LOL. No irony at all?
 
Wow Jefffrey is playing devil's advocate. The entire room is just filled with homophobia now.
 
lol
@Rapptz Hardly unusual. This is why I haven't seen anything from jalf outside of the public transcripts in a good two years or so :)
 
10:07 PM
I should actually feel offended by that attitude towards my opinions
 
Yes, you should.
 
:P
(jk)
(don't shoot)
 
Out of everybody involved in that conversation, there was really only one stand-out twat.
hey, has your avatar changed?
 
It's the hats
Imma go play vidya now.
 
looks more like a frog to me
 
10:08 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That'd be me. Obviously
 
whass vidya?
 
7 hours ago, by Rerito
Well played sir
 
What's going on
 
Jefffrey's homophobic but not smart enough to hide it
 
Oh. Well why don't we let him be dumb, it's not like any of us is going to change him anyway.
 
10:13 PM
Think more opinionate less better
 
well, it's not like the room is a big thing for me now anyway but I generally prefer to keep my environment clean
 
Just bin any homophobic message on sight
 
I would but can't anymore
 
Ah, I forgot
 
The Trio That Forgot
 
10:14 PM
And sehe too
Why did you guise drop the italics, srsly
 
Same reason that you left for a while, surmising
 
Fair enough :w
 
Good night over there
 
(Or maybe the puppy was punished for acting immature a long time ago)
@Rerito Frog powerrrrr!
 
yeah, that one.
 
10:17 PM
Let's all mumble!
"Mumble acl is fucking retarded waaaaaaaa" in pink comic sans, nice
 
You can see I no longer host it :)
 
@Puppy lol
just plonk me please
to prevent further misinterpretations
 
@Puppy honestly, throwing around accusations like that in public with no evidence whatsoever is a pretty fucking shitty thing to do
i know you can't read this but it felt good to say
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Are you trying to debase his comment with a non-sequitur ad hominem?
 
Ell
Man are you still talking about this?
 
10:26 PM
if by "still" you mean "I just got back after like 8 hours", then yes.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae I'm identfying a problem with his comment using facts
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You weren't there. It's an interpretation. And a pretty biased summary. But you weren't there. It's a bit silly to act rude because of it.
20 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
tl;dr: learn to accept that some people have opinions different from yours, and learn to recognise that when you start talking like this about them like they are automatically pieces of shit compared to you, you are the hateful bigot.
 
I employed neither a non-sequitur nor an ad hominem
Nice try, though, I guess!
@Ell not really
 
I know but it felt good to say
 
it just sort of blurts out of people occasionally
 
10:27 PM
Hint: I was imitating you
 
@ParkYoung-Bae ok :D
beer or no beer
to get beer I have to get my shoes back on and go downstairs and wait at the bar then sort of hover about a bit then come all the way back and drink on my own. or i could just get into bed and watch some Perception
on the upside, the beer would be free
(free as in, er, beer)
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Ok. Nice attempt. Tips: next time work on authority. Don't ask "(Are you trying to?)". Instead, assert with contempt. "Hah. So now you're trying to debase ...". You'll get it :)
 
@sehe Hah. So now you're trying to debase my imitation with a sic transit gloria mundi?
 
lol
 
For any who care: Dr. Dobbs will cease publication at the end of this year. drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/farewell-dr-dobbs/240169421
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10:30 PM
And, with that, I'll bow out ;) sleep well everybody. Remember, things will get better.
Eventually
@JerryCoffin That's kinda ... no not sad. It's a landmark though. The end of an era
 
@JerryCoffin Nooooooo :(
Must download copy
 
@sehe Actually, I do find it somewhat sad.
@ParkYoung-Bae The article says the current content on the web site will remain available, just no new content will be added.
 
@JerryCoffin I've never been subscribed to it. I've been subscribed to C/C++ Users Journal, for a small number of years
 
user1804599
> +70
 
user1804599
@AdamRackis ?
 
10:36 PM
ok.
my first mission in Beta Than Ever went super bad.
 
user1804599
You're beta yourself.
 
I killed Jeb (permadeath on Hard) and blew plenty of my money.
 
@sehe I've subscribed to both at various times, but haven't subscribed to either one in quite a while now.
 
Xeo
whee, successful isaac run
time to sleep
 
user1804599
10:44 PM
 
The "author" is a nice addition on this one.
 
what's disturbing is how young the patient seems to be
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin I... what
 
yet ... 13 yo anime girls with big boobs aren't disturbing ...
 
anyone here who has some linke to good performance benchmarks for normal applications running on wine vs running on windows? I can't find any
(i'm not talking about games here)
 
10:52 PM
@Puppy I think any implication that there's only one disturbing thing there just has to be wrong.
 
true.
 
@rightføld I believe I was replying to this comment of yours: "Keep sucking dick guys I don't care, this is an internet forum after all, but boy how badly you cunts have managed to turn this site into utter bs." Which did seem a bit ... cranky
 
user1804599
That's a quote.
 
user1804599
That's why it has the dotted line before it.
 
user1804599
It also has an arrow pointing to its origin.
 
11:00 PM
okay fuck it i'm installing wine. done with porting when bs. gcc complains about valid C++ code.
 
@Gizmo gcc is the best
(except when clang is better)
 
@milleniumbug + the least permissive even with -fpermissive
it even complained when compiling boost, had to adjust like nine thousand settings
finally got all the libraries compiling after three days then came my code
 
@Gizmo If it's complaining about your code, then maybe it's not so valid, no?
 
and yet again millions of errors :(
 
@Gizmo I don't believe you. Testcase please.
 
11:02 PM
seriously if they at least made VC++ complain like GCC maybe I wouldn't have had this shitty code
 
Because I am like 99.(9)% sure that if GCC tells you your code is wrong, then your code is wrong.
 
Ell
Its the codes fault, not GCCs.
 
When a compiler complains about your code, there's a possibility that your code is bad and that you should feel bad.
 
@Ell Don't eat apostrophes.
 
yeah compiling perfectly find on other compilers without warnings :/
 
user1804599
11:03 PM
@Gizmo Never use -fpermissive.
 
Ell
But they're so tasty
 
user1804599
Use -Wall -Wextra -Werror -pedantic.
 
Ell
@Gizmo lemme see code
 
@Gizmo I do not believe you.
@Gizmo Testcase.
 
but i'm done, not going to fix 30k lines of code when I can install wine
 
user1804599
11:03 PM
And fix the fucking things it complains about.
 
@Ell sure wanna 30k lines of code?
 
Because if your "other compilers" is MSVC, then I have bad news for you.
 
Ell
Nah on second thoughts
 
Your code is wrong.
Now do yourself a favor and listen to gcc.
kthxbye
 
sure i'm listening = aborting porting process
wine FTW :D
don't care for performance anymore
 
11:04 PM
So... you think you are using msvc via wine?
Well... good luck with that.
 
@Gizmo The Microsoft compiler is legendary on SO (and everywhere for that matter) for being broken in every aspect.
 
@milleniumbug to late for my code XD
 
When I ported my (at the time) 150k line Pi program to Linux/GCC, there were more errors than the terminal could print out in 5 minutes before I killed it. It took more than 2 weeks to fix it up, but I did it anyway because I knew my code was bad and I felt bad.
 
@Gizmo Define what "other compilers" you tried.
And again; if that list is "MSVC", then your code is terribad and you should feel bad.
 
@Griwes code blocks, and all versions of MSVC from 2008 up to 2013
 
11:05 PM
@Gizmo lol
 
Codeblocks is not a compiler, silly.
 
@Griwes dunno what compiler it uses
it works
 
So... @Gizmo proven wrong.
Next!
@Gizmo No! No! No it doesn't!
 
@My
 
If GCC doesn't compile your code at the default warning and error settings, your code is horrible.
 
11:07 PM
@Griwes it runs, it doesn't crash and it does what I expect it to do - in my definition that is working :P
 
@Mysticial, I feel bad when my compiles with warnings...
 
@Gizmo That's the worst definition of working ever.
See, now I hope you will encounter some silly case of UB one day
 
> Jim Jeffferies over geloof.
 
I am known to be of low standards xD
 
11:07 PM
awesome
 
That will destroy your entire working setup
 
@Griwes already happend when memset was optimized away and players were havind like infinite cash and admin privilidges
 
Usually I don't wish that, just warn about it, but in your case, you are so bad at this programming thing that I wish you get seriously burned by it.
memset? You are manually calling memset?
Yes, I wish you get burned bad.
 
@Griwes well on windows ZeroMemory but now I use SecureZeroMemory
 
That's horrible.
 
11:09 PM
@Gizmo We've upped our standards. Now up yours.
 
user1804599
Time to sleep!
 
Use constructors, dammit.
 
You're using Windows functions and you're complaining about it not compiling on Linux?
 
@Griwes I do, all data gets created at process launch
when a player leaves it\s being reset
 
@Gizmo There are two ways to initialize data. One is constructors, the other is memset.
 
11:10 PM
to prevent memory fragmentation, allocating new structures each time someone connects is bad.
 
Chose one and stop contradicting yourself.
@Gizmo hahahahahaha
 
lol
 
@Gizmo let me laugh at you
@Gizmo ahahahahahahaha
 
I'm laughing too :P
 
Now stop being a dumbass and start writing code that focuses on being correct, not on being fast.
 
11:11 PM
@Griwes memset is no better (or worse) for initialization than a for loop, std::fill_n, or a whole host of other possibilities.
 
Now this is the kind of conversation where we need @jalf's "teaching" expertise.
 
@JerryCoffin It's worse; it destroys basically any static checks. (Well, that's kinda a lie, because it's a function that's understood by compilers, but my point still stands w.r.t. type safety and stuff).
Also it doesn't call constructors, so you end up with no properly initialized objects vOv
 
@Griwes I use memset() and memcpy() because MSVC complains about every instance I try to use std::fill() or std::copy(). And I don't want to turn off that warning globally.
For PODs.
 
@Mysticial Another reason not to use (or trust) MSVC. :D
 
11:15 PM
@Griwes :)
 
@Mysticial push pop
 
It's not that bad actually. Just don't rely on it for standards compliance.
@Gizmo No, I don't want to litter my code with MS-specific push pop pragmas.
 
@Mysticial I understand your struggle
 
@Mysticial You're littering it with memset() and memcpy() due to MS-specific behaviour. I don't really see the difference.
 
11:34 PM
I want this guy in the Lounge. Find him.
 
It seems as if I've earned my outspoken badge, I wonder why.
 
He's awesome.
 
Ell
yeah haha
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have good solder and flux pen but my soldering iron isn't very good
it's the one my dad uses for soldering plumbing together
Also I only have small protoboards
 
Jez
Hello. Are there any mods around? I need a question transitioned to another StackExchange site.
 
11:42 PM
@Ell Metcal makes some nice soldering equipment.
@Jez What question?
 
Jez
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Q: Why should I use git instead of traditional TFS?

JezI use Visual Studio 2013 Team Edition, and the current project I'm on is using traditional server-based TFS repositories for source control. I'm aware that git's GUI integration onto Windows has come on leaps and bounds recently, and I'm using TFS 2013 so there is official Visual Studio integrat...

I think it needs to move to softwarerecs.stackexchange.com
 
@Jez Wrong room, this is the C++ room.
 
Jez
well which is the right room?
 
You're asking for migration votes? (which we can't since it's not one of the options)
 
Jez
erm
a mod doesnt need votes to migrate does he?
 
11:44 PM
@Jez You see a mod here?
 
A mod can migrate anywhere. But we can only migrate to one of the provided options.
 
Jez
@Borgleader i dunno. maybe?
 
@Jez Hint, their names are blue, and they have diamons next to them.
 
We're all mortals, we can't do anything.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin a little out of my price range :P
I'm sure they'll provide any equipment I'll need at uni next year anyway
 
11:46 PM
@Jez Erm. Want a mod action? Flag for mod attention.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sounds like something Jaden Smith would tweet.
 
It's not that hard.
 
@Ell Mine too, really. I get by with a rather less expensive Weller, about like this one: zoro.com/i/G0743032/…
 
@Mysticial Is it?
 
11:47 PM
@Griwes Already flagged.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit This is definitely the C++ room. But C++ is a pretty broad topic as you can see from the starboard.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin yeah that's much more realistic for me
 
@Mysticial Then how come many regulars routinely insist that this is not "the C++ room"? I'm not one of them, btw. :)
 
@Ell Years ago we got a Metcal where I used to work. It did work really well, but in all honesty I wouldn't say it was enough better to justify the price difference.
 
I've never had experiences with soldering guns. Tell me, since it's basically hot molten metal, can I pour it into a mold ?
 
Ell
11:51 PM
@JerryCoffin especially since I'm just a hobbyist
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit shhhhh..... :)
 
@Ell becareful youre just an Ell away from lobbyist badumtss
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ahh jesus
 
@Nooble You could, but solder is pretty expensive for that. You should be able to get printer's metal for quite a bit less money.
 
Ell
11:52 PM
@Borgleader cringe
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Because "regular" is a long ways from "infallible".
 
@JerryCoffin Printer's metal? Never heard of it. What's it used with?
 
@Nooble It's traditionally used by printers to cast type. It's fairly similar to solder (lead and tin with various other "stuff" mixed in to harden it). People who cast bullets for older rifles and such often use it as well.
In printing, type metal (sometimes called hot metal) refers to the metal alloys used in traditional typefounding and hot metal typesetting. Lead is the main constituent of these alloys. Antimony and tin are added to make the character produced durable and tough while reducing the difference between the coefficients of expansion of the matrix and the alloy. == History == Although the knowledge of casting soft metals in moulds was well established before Johannes Gutenberg's time, his discovery of an alloy that was hard, durable, and would take a clear impression from the mould (because it did not...
 

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