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7:00 PM
@sehe alright alright
 
:D
Okay, more constructive content added as well. I'm sure you will be able to fix the hidden XY Problem with this. Good luck. — sehe 7 secs ago
 
I upvoted you even though I have no idea what you said in a total violation of how upvoting is supposed to work.
 
Bloh
I feel violated now. Oh wait, the rule :)
 
robot, did you go home now?
 
7:06 PM
More importantly, did you take the bike?
 
Upvoted too because you spend way too much time answering newbies that DGAF anyway
 
gotta admit I did not want to violate a goddamn bear.
I will endeavor to be more cautious.
 
I'm home
But there's no one here.
 
lucky you
 
R. is home alone:(
 
7:09 PM
lucky him
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery: He's saying that we didn't have a reopen queue two years ago. — Robert Harvey ♦ 29 secs ago
 
Granted, there was no one at the office but here I'm left with staring at the walls
 
@Robert oh god
people and their wording
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're clearly chatting here in the Lounge with us.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You need to put up some interesting posters.
 
7:10 PM
I have a big one of Cassini.
 
what's that?
 
Some space probe, IIRC.
 
Probe in the Saturn system.
Did I mention I love Cassini?
 
no
 
I think I did but yeah.
 
7:12 PM
so robot I heard that you had sexual relations with a space probe
did you produce adorable little electrical offspring?
 
user3010322
Uh. Just a quick, friendly reminder to everyone here....
 
user3010322
Never cook bacon with your shirt off. >.o
 
lol
why not
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewiczzczsszcc you there?
 
user3010322
Because.
 
user3010322
7:14 PM
Burning fat on your nipples.
 
user3010322
Is not a nice sensation.
 
protip: don't overcook the bacon so that the boiling fat is splashing everywhere
er mah gerd robot
 
@ThePhD @BurritoKitBananaSandwich
 
7:15 PM
burning fat is totally not kinky.
that's nearly as bad as rightfold and his penis rings.
 
what do they sound like
 
Gonna make some tea.
When I decide to stand
 
sigh
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Q: get template type of abstract base class

omidI want to inherit My class from template abstract class Simplified version of My code is: template <class T1, class T2> class Base { virtual T1 foo() = 0; virtual T2 bar() = 0; }; class template_1{}; class template_2{}; class Drived : public Base<template_1,template_2> { templat...

 
yayy...the include paths work automatically
but the linker paths don't ._.
 
7:26 PM
@kbok Salut, tu travailles toujours pour le Coquillage de la finance ?
 
Is that a real thing?
 
Do you always work for what?
 
Theā€¦ finance shell
 
lol
It's just a codename so I don't disclose his company name
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery It's a shell company?
 
7:31 PM
In a way
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's great that NuGet is flexible...if only VS wasn't so crap at everything
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Itā€™s Shell gasā€™s finance department?
 
"oh you've already added some linker inputs? oh well looks like you don't need my inputs..."
 
user1804599
Anyone here extremely proficient with linear algebra? :v
 
7:33 PM
All of us but you
 
user1804599
I would not be surprised by that.
 
define "extremely" :p
 
I know which company he works for, but I don't get the "Coquillage".
 
user1804599
ā€œknows how to do basic vector operationsā€
 
@rightfold Whatā€™s linear algebra? Is it like high school?
 
7:34 PM
@minitech Basically, yes.
 
Iā€™m in a math class right now
 
user1804599
@minitech See message above.
 
@rightfold Well, ask anyway
 
> See it Live On Coliru (although I've named the script main.cpp there for ... pragmatic reasons :))
/cc @StackedCrooked woot
 
@rightfold return (this_is_not_a_homework_request) ? "yes" : "no";
 
7:35 PM
hi
 
user1804599
@melak47 strcmp("yes", f()) == 0
 
user3010322
@Rapptz Konnichiwa.
 
user1804599
 
Wow, what the heck is that
 
@melak47 trolol. inb4 arch mismatch
 
user1804599
7:36 PM
Iā€™m confused since \alpha and \beta are scalars. :S
 
Circumflexy v is vector?
 
@sehe what does "?" mean in the sed and head ocmmands?
 
user1804599
@minitech Hat means unit vector.
 
Oh, it's python.
 
@sehe nah, it's not even messed up like that. It just doesn't seem to feel the need to add it's additional dependencies to to the ones already set by my project...
 
7:37 PM
@StackedCrooked it's... a wildcard to match single letter filenames
 
@minitech Despite the terrible name, Linear Algebra is not taught in High School.
 
@StackedCrooked noep
 
@rightfold What's confusing about that? If u and v are unit vectors then it makes sense.
 
if I create a new blank project, it works fine.
 
right
 
7:37 PM
@rightfold Is [a b] a vector, and which kind
 
user1804599
Oh, I get it now, I guess.
 
user1804599
Adding two vectors yields a new vector.
 
user1804599
Duh.
 
user1804599
Thank you all. <3
 
You turned a row vector into a column vector
That's not an addition
 
7:38 PM
wut
 
user1804599
How can you tell it is a row vector?
 
Euclidean vectors are row vectors
 
@Rapptz He did a * { 1, 0 } + b * { 0, 1 } which obviously gives { a, b }
 
hence the hat notation
 
@sehe Ah, that's cool.
 
7:38 PM
@StackedCrooked you facilitate old-school sed script testing :)
 
user1804599
@Rapptz Now Iā€™m even more confused.
 
though tbh I guess I just assumed
Never mind me then.
 
@rightfold That's not what it says there.
 
user1804599
Iā€™m not doing anything with geometry, though.
 
This looks fun. Are these the vectors related to space? Listy things? Are those really the same?
 
7:39 PM
Where'd geometry come into play here?
 
It says they're complex numbers.
 
I donā€™t do enough math
 
@Rapptz maybe they just like to mix up notations and use the hat instead of the arrow? :v
 
@rightfold There is no such thing as row/column vectors.
 
user1804599
@Rapptz you mentioned Euclidian vectors. :v
 
7:40 PM
That's what they're called
In mathematics, physics, and engineering, a Euclidean vector (sometimes called a geometric or spatial vector, orā€”as hereā€”simply a vector) is a geometric quantity having magnitude (or length) and direction expressed numerically as tuples [ x , y , z ] splitting the entire quantity into its orthogonal-axis components. A vector is an object that is an input for or an output from vector functions according to vector algebra. A Euclidean vector is typically sketched as a directed line segment, or arrow, connecting an initial point A with a terminal point B and denoted by \overrightarrow{AB}....
 
user3010322
Maybe I should call my vector classes that instead
 
@Rapptz Thatā€™s geometry, isnā€™t it?
 
user3010322
euclid_vector<T, 3>
 
No
=[
 
user3010322
e_vector<T, 3>
 
7:41 PM
Where are you guys getting geometry from?
 
They're magnitude+direction things, like displacement, velocity, acceleration.
 
I'm honestly confused
 
user1804599
> geometric quantity
 
user1804599
lel
 
@Rapptz Possibly the alternative name of ā€œgeometric vectorā€
 
user1804599
7:41 PM
inb4 Wikipedia sucks.
 
user3010322
geometric::vector<T, 3> <--- Hmmm, not bad
 
user3010322
Namespaces and all.
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Maybe in France you don't call them that.
In my class we didn't call them matrices until they were 2x2 :<
 
@Rapptz We're probably not talking about the same thing I guess
A vector is a matrix
 
Yeah I know.
We just called the 1 dimensional matrices vectors.
 
7:44 PM
but where did the "euclidean vectors are row vectors" come from
 
@melak47 I've always seen Euclidean vectors in row form rather than column. Is that just me? :s
 
we've pretty much always written them as column vectors. except when it didn't suit us :p
 
I guess we always used row cause it was easier to visualise for the kids.
iunno
 
we used column because more of them fit side by side on paper :v
 
@Rapptz Yeah, OK, I get your meaning.
 
7:47 PM
@ThePhD math::vector
 
user3010322
@Rapptz Meeehhh.
 
user3010322
Oh, wait!
 
user3010322
geo::vector
 
user3010322
perfect.
 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23790910/permutation-in-ascending-order-in-c
Please spare some downvotes for this entitiled moron.
 
user3010322
7:47 PM
3 letters and all.
 
geo can mean geology too
 
I seriously just saw somebody describe a server as "cloud in a box". I literally can't even what.
 
goo::vector
 
geo would definitely mean geology first.
 
blame rotten twitter UI. Continuously foils my attempts to (>quickly<) copy urls
 
7:49 PM
yeah I've never heard anyone mention geometry by geo
 
user3010322
:c
 
you should get out more
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes or geography
 
math::vector wins :v
 
user3010322
Well, at what point would someone writing a computer program infer geology or geography from geo?
 
user3010322
7:50 PM
I mean, really. :c
 
geom
 
For me geo means earth so whatever. I wouldn't infer anything further.
 
balls::vector
 
but whatever
 
Borgsdorf is a stop on my trip to Denmark.
 
7:50 PM
mathematics::geometry::vector just to be safe.
 
user3010322
u_u
 
@minitech Don't give him ideas.
 
user3010322
my poor fingers
 
@Rapptz stuff::things::knowledge::mathematics::geometry::vector
 
Poor fingers indeed.
 
user3010322
7:52 PM
@minitech Hmmm.... it's not 3 letters, but it does look nice.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Missing ::philosophy and ::concepts somewhere. Maybe.
 
Shame on you
Who'd pick geom over math :v
 
user3010322
The cool kids.
 
Math vectors are more general I'd say
 
also you implement vectors as arrays?
 
user3010322
7:53 PM
Basically.
 
I've never really liked that :c
Don't know why
I prefer the x, y, z thing
 
user3010322
Well, I support that syntax too.
 
:v what's the point
 
user3010322
By way of massive CRTP wankery.
 
You really do like making things hard on yourself.
I thought everyone was joking
 
user3010322
7:55 PM
Nuh-uh!
 
user3010322
It wasn't that hard.
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@ThePhD struct crtp : wankery<crtp> {};
 
user3010322
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery That actually sums it up nicely.
 
user3010322
I... I dunno...
 
7:56 PM
@Rapptz hahahahaha
 
user3010322
template <typename T>
struct RVector2 : public RVector<RVector2<T>, T, 2> {};
 
Why? :c
 
RVector? What's that?
What does "R" mean?
 
ā€œRealVectorā€
 
7:57 PM
Ridiculous
 
Not like one of those fake math vectors
 
user3010322
It's just letters I prepend to shit to make distinct names.
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@ThePhD Please no
 
user3010322
It's in a detail namespace.
 
7:57 PM
awful
 
user3010322
Or... is it? It should be.
 
user3010322
Oh, no it's not. I'll put it in one.
 
your mother's in a detail namespace.
 
I need a Google Maps alternative.
 
7:58 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actual maps
 
what's wrong with google maps
 
user3010322
I like how Google Maps on my phone will strip even my phone's local memory of places I've searched if I don't agree to its Web History jazz.
 
user3010322
It's either the Cloud or Nothing At All.
 
@Rapptz 1) Fuck Google. 2) Can't save or load routes.
 
Why do you hate Google again?
 
8:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Paper maps with transparencies and erasable markers
 
user3010322
@minitech Listen, it's not that bad, seriously.
 
@minitech I have those.
 
@ThePhD Meaningless prefixes are pretty bad. Whatā€™s wrong with just a namespace?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's wrong with a bookmark?
The maps web app integrates well with my GPS.
 
8:01 PM
OK, I gotta go beer.
 
user3010322
@minitech It is in a namespace. :c
 
@ThePhD Then why does it need a meaningless prefix?
 
Anyway the only two alternatives I know are Bing Maps and Nokia's 'Here' maps.
 
user3010322
@minitech It was following the name convention of the thing above it, since there was 2 kinds of vector<T, 4>
 
here.com is a wonderful domain for a map engine
 
user3010322
8:05 PM
here.now, maybe?
 
@Rapptz They do too much bullshit.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/bullshit//
 
why does the parser need the filename and the stream?
and how can the parser possibly convert "male" to gender::male?
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Non, mais je peux te brancher quand même ou autre part si tu veux
 
8:09 PM
@Rapptz I can't seem to find an option to save maps offline from the browser and I am not expecting decent network coverage all over.
 
@DeadMG because
 
The Google Maps app has a "save map for offline use" button
 
user3010322
> As an author of pugixml, I canā€™t help but comment on the ā€œreal XML parserā€ thingā€¦ Your link is very misleading - you stumbled upon a parser that canā€™t read content from valid XML at all, CDATA of all things. Great...
 
But the Google Maps app can't deal with routes.
 
user3010322
It's a fight!
 
8:11 PM
I don't want to save a zillion waypoints by hand :S
 
no, no fight. go home. nobody wants to read XML
 
TBH
I don't think you'll find something as nice as Google Maps.
 
I know Q_Q
 
GAH
 
But this is exactly the kind of bullshit I don't want to be fed. The Google Maps app used to be able to deal with routes.
 
8:14 PM
stupid nuget package fails to link crap if you select the CTP ->_->
 
user3010322
@minitech However, it should be noted there are 2 distinct types for the data. One is RVector#<T>, which is a unionable, PoD-type. The other is TVector#<T>, which is a non-unionable, default-constructable type. The default for the engine is using Vector2 = TVector2<T>; and the like. The detail::RVector<TVec, T, dimensions> is just the core implementation that uses CRTP to enable swizzling for .x, .y, .z, .w (and .xy, .xz, etc.) syntax.
 
Fuck knows why Google decided it was time to make an update and remove a couple of features.
 
I just copy pasted something from my computer and expected it to be in my phone somehow.
 
user3010322
@melak47 You don't need any of those fancy C++11 features anyway, do you?
 
Not my brightest moment :s
 
8:15 PM
@ThePhD lol
 
@Rapptz I use addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/qrcoder for "copy-pasting" to my phone.
 
copy/hasted
 
well
that URL doesn't work on my phone
 
@ThePhD it's not a fight if it's not an XML parser :)
 
@ThePhD hahahaha
lol
 
8:20 PM
well Robot
 
what's the platform toolset string for november ctp? 'CTP_Nov2013' ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I found this: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.xylem.mapin
 
@kbok Globalement, tu recommanderais cette boîte ou non ?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Google has this nice habit of removing features at each update and making the UI prettier.
 
@melak47 Somethingl ike that.
 
Has anybody seen the DConf 2014 keynote? I slept through it :(
 
8:22 PM
@DeadMG how do I find out what it is exactly :S
 
#1 download CTP, #2 open VS and look at the plat toolsets list.
 
user3010322
@DeadMG He's cheating, as you suspected in the comments.
 
user3010322
> Except that this won't compile. The parser doesn't know how to convert the text representation to our enum. By default the parser will try to use the iostream extraction operator but we haven't provided any.

We can provide conversion code specifically for XML by specializing the value_traits class template:
 
user3010322
So, there's no magic reflection.
 
hmph, yeah vcxproj says "CTP_Nov2013"
 
8:23 PM
> In fact, most of the ā€œsubsetā€ parsers, including pugixml, donā€™t even document what happens when valid but unsupported XML constructs are encountered. Are they ignored? Is there an error? Crash? Nobody knows. In fact, you donā€™t even document that your XML parser only supports a subset of XML, which is what I find misleading.
 
Of course you can put the sed script on the command line, but I thought the script would be a lot clearer. How's this different from my answer? Also find . -name '*.bak' -delete would be more concise — sehe 1 min ago
 
user3010322
Albeit it's not "cheating", more so than just "doing the best you can."
 
Hooligans. Stealing my answer. While they mistag the question :S
 
I think this is a very, if not the most, important point.
 
PugiXML is very clear about things IIRC
 
8:26 PM
Hello, all
 
Hi
 
How goes the coding?
 
I don't know how to code
 
spent all day writing my CV
 
@Rapptz +1
 
8:28 PM
I haven't written a single line of code, shot anybody in the face, or accused anybody of being the Mafia.
 
gonna try out that MAPin thing
 
@DeadMG Well, it's not our fault if your aim was off. You should practice more head-shots.
 
lol, I just tried to fast forward in the DConf live stream :D
Too bad time travel hasn't been invented yet...
 
it doesn't show any routes either
@R.MartinhoFernandes Every app seems to be pretty bad :s
but it seems Google Earth supports it fine
not Google Maps though...
 
@Etienne: Did I mention that the Battle.NET app just took about ten minutes to determine that SC2 actually needs an update? Fucking piece of shit. Blizzard should have just done the smart thing and used Steam.
 
8:41 PM
Tomorrow I'll try out OsmAnd on the way to work the barbecue.
 
yeah Battle.net is awful.
 
Has fully offline maps which is nice.
 
Ah over
 
@sehe Did I call rand() too many times?
 
Hmm.. It's $8
 
8:42 PM
$7?
@FredOverflow obviously
 
It's free.
You can get a nightly build or build it yourself if you need more than 8 maps
 
It's still failing intermittently. Maybe I just hit a cached page
 
The paid version is that emulated donation thing some apps do.
 
@sehe it seems to be down, looking at it
 
Bad question of the day:
-1
Q: Error Message, Please helppppppppppppppppp

user3662485I get the below error when running this syntax: Define !Xel(). !do !i=1 !to 1. GET FILE= !quote(!concat('D:\Trial\chk\', '1M1chkc', !i, '.sav')). IF ((V6 NE 0) OR (V6 NE 1) OR (V8 NE 0) OR (V8 NE 1)). save outfile = !Quote(!concat('D:\Trial\error\', '1M1fractionc', !i, '.sav')). EXECUTE. !doen...

 
8:46 PM
'D:\Trial\error\' - made my day — sehe 11 secs ago
 
@sehe it's up again
 
Never seen a question going down that fast.
 
Have you tried compiling it as C# — William Andrew Montgomery 1 min ago
 
I think it's a Markov Chain generated prototypical bad question. What else could it be? The error message even mentions "in a COMPUTE command" - which is not present?
 
8:48 PM
It was like -6 and 2 close votes. Not even the time to try to close it and it was -12 and 5 close votes.
 
@ScottW I hate that. I like slow and building
@Jefffrey I saw it at -1. I think
 
@ScottW :3
Aaaaand deleted.
Closed, -14 and deleted in 5- minutes. Congratulations boys.
 
Massive deja vu.
 
@Jefffrey Why the congrats? There was no heightened effort. Just normal business, IYAM
 
I'd love to believe that.
"normal business" is nowhere that efficient. Often times bad questions don't even get closed within 3 hours.
 
8:54 PM
The Lounge Effect
 
Had to convert it to GPX, but seems to work.
 
the map looks ugly
 
What's that?
 
Meh. When given the choice between pretty and actually usable, I pick the latter.
 
"prettyness" of a map is part of its usability IMO
 
8:56 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Google would not hire you
 
@Rapptz It's far less important than getting me there.
 
@Rapptz You're talking to a guy who gets lost often.
 
Hehe, does he?
 
So I've heard.
 
that would explain the million routes..
:v
 
8:59 PM
It's themable, though.
 
Pick a sane theme. Maps shouldn't be purple/dark blue/green :v
 

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