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2:00 PM
Does it just not do anything?
 
Ron
@KendallFrey correct
 
And you're assigning the value after the animation has completed?
 
Kendall: Sorted!! just had to add that file manually and point the test runner to it. Thanks
 
Ron
@KendallFrey I have a button that should change the visibility, as u saw the animation duration is 300 miliseconds, I click on the button for atleast 5 seconds so I am pretty sure I tried while it was running and after completed
 
@Maverik Well, that's great.
 
2:02 PM
Yea, gotta tell them that!
If i had done a test in a project randomly, i can understand the need for manual and I would have looked for the test setting
but i did through templates and I assumed it was all done the way it should be
Squall rulz but i was really disappointed when squall doesn't get Griever
Unit Test Project in VS template doesn't add .testsetting file and thus you end up running in default 32 bit mode
which is fine until you really need to run in 64bit mode and then you're like how the hell do you change that
since it didn't add, I assumed it was picking it up from my target project template -- effed by the assumption
 
thank god for linqpad where I cross checked to know it wasn't me messing up but rather the test runner
 
I hate people who are afraid to admit that they do not know how to do something...
 
@ton.yeung yes, i return new list but the new list is over written in the view and kinda displays all items again :P
code runs very well and search works perfect.
 
It would save so much time if they just asked instead of pretending to know what they were doing... Dear god..
 
2:07 PM
I did consider xUnit but while i was reading the comparison matrix, i concluded I don't need it
 
I get the whole pretending on small things you can look up later, but when I am getting an error on something that I have no connection to and they are the only one working on, they cannot sit there and say it is my machines fault...
 
I've just dived into DI world + Unit Testing (properly) so need to take small steps before i get lost
no i was told not to assume in general in my dorm days
my seniors quote was "assumption is the mother of all eff ups, don't assume"
of course he used proper word instead of eff
 
@ton.yeung yea m i am returning a new list, in razor i see the returned item count is iterated. but still displays all. If totally 8 items displayed in index view, i select some criteria and return 2 items, view iterates the list only 2 times but displays all 8. kinda its not updated or refreshed whatever
 
since there isn't a room for that: Does anyone here has experience with github and how to send a change to a project?
 
that was probably the best advice i ever had
 
2:09 PM
@SteffenWinkler git push
 
well that's funny
 
I am not into github, but google and I are pretty close.
 
@SteffenWinkler Download Github for Windows and don't worry about the commands.
 
@RoelvanUden I just did that, but I don't get how to use it :/
well, I downloaded the .zip file from a project
 
@SteffenWinkler Once you open a project, on the right you can write a message and commit changes. They are then listed on the right-side panel and are not yet synchronized.
 
2:10 PM
after some testing around I Found a bug
 
What zip file?
 
At the top there is a sync button, press it to send it to remtoe.
 
I opened the .sln file and fixed the bug
 
Did you clone the github repo?
 
now I want to suggest it to them
no
 
2:11 PM
I'm guessing you want a "Pull Request"
 
You need to fork the github repo, clone it to your PC, commit the change, sync it online, and then do a pull request
 
there is a big 'download zip file' on every repository page
 
you'll see it after you Commit Changes in a Clone
 
You probably should fork it on github, then clone your fork to your machine, fix the bug, commit, push, and pull request in github.
 
First.
 
2:12 PM
fork...? but I don't want to create an alternative project?!
 
no that's how github works
that's how it knows who did what :)
 
ookay...
 
@ton.yeung :-(
 
No, but you need to fork to create a github pull request.
I think...
 
ok...well, I downloaded the github software for Windows and create an account
 
2:13 PM
First step: open the repository on Github and fork it
@ton.yeung That was implied
 
@KendallFrey okay, did that
 
Now clone your repo from your local computer
(I'm not familiar with GH for W)
Remember, clone your fork, not the main one
 
has a lovely interface but i find tortoisegit much better for practical purposes
(probably cos i don't use github itself as much as i use git)
 
I use it, bit mainly because I "grew up" on TortoiseHg
 
I came from TortoiseSVN :)
 
2:16 PM
I'm trying to move to command line.
 
@KendallFrey hmm, can'T find anything that'd resemble a 'clone' command in that GUI
 
@Maverik I used it a bit back in the day
 
i'll try to google
 
I did learn command line before gui mode but gui is faster
but now with MS supporting Git officially i'm starting to do things in VS
don't all developers?
shocked
 
2:17 PM
clearly you're not a developer at all!!
 
@SteffenWinkler maybe that ^^
 
no i refuse to accept you for one developer even
you don't suck at typing and you're not a pure windows developer
 
@KendallFrey the only thing that does is opening a new tab 'windows.github.com'
 
you're a demon!
 
@SteffenWinkler Darn.
 
2:18 PM
down at the bottom it says i should install github for windows...which is already installed
 
@ton.yeung eww!
 
I think you may need to do it manually.
 
ok, now this chat reminds me why i stopped being regular here!
 
@ton.yeung ack, he got me!
 
you've pulled me into chat - must... stop!
 
2:19 PM
HAMMERTIME!
HAMMAHTIME!
 
thank you again for the testsetting bit :)
 
I'll restart firefox, maybe it has to register...
 
btw since I'm here.. i'd leave you with shamless advertisement
 
Create a folder for your repository, then from the command prompt inside that folder, do git clone https://github.com/yourusername/projectname.git
 
we have a WPF/Xaml/SL/WP room too if you feel your question hasn't been answered - you can come bug us some of us there who are more focused and use it everyday to carry out our duties :)
 
2:21 PM
what's wrong here? sounds a fight
 
lol nothings wrong here
but sometimes focus helps ;)
of course I'm not forcing you to join DarkHorse :P merely stating as a lot of people who join our room usually say they never knew there was a room for it :)
 
杨?
 
@ton.yeung you're an architect.. you don't need to focus anymore :) just blame people!
also, isn't it ADHD ?
right, i'm gonna stop now.. must get back to work >.<
take cares all and i'll catch you back the next time i'm stuck :P or you can come visit us in wpf room :P
 
@SteffenWinkler still there?
 
(oh btw we do refer people from there to here too :P)
 
2:24 PM
I feel sad that there is still no proper Zip and HTTP support for WP7 (And no, broken Bcl packages don't count :P)
 
@KendallFrey yeah, I'm trying
but it always says 'No such file or directory'
 
user1804599
HELLŒ
 
i've started moving away from bcl relying more on nugets now
 
@SteffenWinkler The git clone does?
 
project name is xwt
yes
 
2:25 PM
@ton.yeung I could say WP8 and end up with the same statement :P
 
and then they go commercial >.> hate that
 
@ton.yeung I would probably have to butcher a .NET zip library again to get some basic Zip archive on PCL
New means nothing.
>_<
 
@SteffenWinkler What's your gh username?
 
@KendallFrey nevermind, got it
?
 
Great.
 
2:27 PM
one should type ones username correctly
 
Now I think you should be able to edit the code.
 
If there is a problem that happens, and you cannot recreate it. Do you ignore it or do you go back and trace your code paths?
 
@SteffenWinkler hah
@JLott Ignore it
 
@ton.yeung nothing
 
@JLott that totally depends upon how many times it occured and who 'found' it and wether or not you yourself saw it
 
2:29 PM
I wish I could recreate it because I know it will happen again...
 
How do you know?
 
happy mid-autumn festival @all
 
Who saw the problem? You, or someone else?
Has it happened more than once?
 
@KendallFrey I don't know lol I can't recreate t
it*
 
@ton.yeung you should paste a beatiful girl on the wall behind your bed, I think that could be better for you
 
2:31 PM
Oh I saw the problem... sorry @KendallFrey
 
@JLott Jot it down for future reference. Happens again? Track it down.
 
hahahahahahahaha
Oh, wait.
You're not saying you fixed it.
 
@KendallFrey No.. I saw the problem, but I don't know really who caused it because I cannot recreate it like I had hoped.
 
@ton.yeung if my avatar is attractive so much to you, it's my pleasure
 
nice, collapses good now
 
2:33 PM
yeah
 
@DarkHorse imgur is blocked :( i.stack.imgur.com/iiSqs.png?s=128&g=1
 
what?
 
lol, yeah. watch out in the js room, there is quite a lot of jquery angst in there
telerik kept me busy this morning with a terrible error message 'value can not be null'... when in fact it should have said 'value can not be zero'. would have saved me some time
 
the problem with planning a wedding in mexico during hurricane seasion... hurricanes
 
2:37 PM
Asian Invasion!
 
aww :)
 
@DarkHorse dat face
 
@KendallFrey turns out, I don't need to clone the github repository to my disk. I can edit the files directly on the github website. Thanks for the help :)
 
@SteffenWinkler Really? Cool. But can you build & test? ;)
@ton.yeung You have a dog with a permanent orgasm?
 
@KendallFrey I did that in that zip directory that I downloaded prior. I only added a CheckBoxColumn thingi to the supported types of controls in a ListView
 
2:39 PM
@ton.yeung I have no idea about the pets
 
Do yourself a favour, and learn how to use git on a spare project in your spare time.
 
@KendallFrey now, since you seem to be familiar with github...what is the preferred method: Many small commits or few big commits? For example, here I've a wrapper for WPF (Xwt) but it lacks controls for the ListView control, now I could add each at a time (Combobox, Checkbox...) or all at once.
ah
makes sense
but you aren't @KendallFrey ;)
 
@SteffenWinkler Many small is the industry standard, but it depends on the organization/project. At work, we do strictly one commit per task.
 
and here I sit and don't even have one TFS task/bug....
 
Yes, but I don't even know what that is.
Yes.
I don't use the command. It's done for me.
 
2:43 PM
I want know whether an independent domin name is essential to install bolg in github? @all
 
commit often! also, with git, make local branches
@DarkHorse wat?
 
thanks guys, see you tomorrow
 
@KendallFrey Agreed, it's much better to isolate small, task-oriented changes in case you need to undo them (i.e. revert)
 
@CharlieBrown i faild to install blog in github
 
github is not for blog
 
2:45 PM
^
 
@ton.yeung typo, it's blog
 
@walkingTarget You misunderstand. We don't focus on small commits at all.
 
github is a hosted version of git, a popular distributed source control system
 
It's basically a remote repository, so you don't need to run a git server to share your code.
 
@ton.yeung I suppose, but doesn't git pull track all the little downstream commits?
Ah
 
2:47 PM
lets you squash commits into one
 
That's nifty
 
Not really
Doesn't that destroy history?
 
I need fundraising ideas...
 
That's bad, right?
 
2:48 PM
carwash
 
@JLott Alright. Raise funds for me.
 
yes/no, some people prefer it when you pull request
 
It has to be done at a booth lol
 
kissing booth?
 
brat fry / fried anything
 
2:49 PM
Morning everyone.
 
@KendallFrey I can see on some projects you'd want the complete history; on others you might not
 
@KendallFrey Ha. I think half of us are in relationships lol
@Greg Morning Greg
 
GitHub Pages for blog
 
Basically food items would be best, but too many people do bake sales
 
@JLott i keep telling my fiance that i have up until the minister asks the question to decide
 
2:50 PM
@DarkHorse ew
 
@CharlieBrown haha
 
@CharlieBrown UP?
 
Use a proper blogging service, like blogger
 
@DarkHorse github pages is for making a quick documentation site on your open source project
@JLott whether to say 'I DO' or not
 
What about different coffee drinks.... that could be fun...
@CharlieBrown Gotcha lol.
 
2:51 PM
I cannot install Windows 8.1 x86 on an x86-64 machine?
 
yeah, you could do a yakisoba stand, we used to do those in the corps
 
We would need electricity then though....
 
I'm thinking within one company you'd want the complete history. In a distributed project, like something open source, you may want only the final code change
 
@kush sure you can
 
@walkingTarget I think it's the other way around.
 
2:52 PM
@JLott Kickstarter
 
@ton.yeung Or a generator.
@walkingTarget I don't think my organization would get anything on kickstarter
 
@CharlieBrown it says enter other disk that says x64 and set up will continue or something like that
 
At least for me, open source tends to be more open, whereas commercial code is more git-r-dun
 
If I want other people read my article published in github pages, how can i do?
 
@kush lol, nice they must have added that
 
2:53 PM
@ton.yeung... Yeah... I flipping wish.
 
@CharlieBrown nice?
 
@KendallFrey Maybe - either way it depends on how the organization decides to document their changes
 
@DarkHorse send them the link
 
You would think an all female programming organization would get funding.
 
@CharlieBrown I wasted a dvd dude. :(
 
2:53 PM
@DarkHorse Doesn't it assign you a subdomain? something.github.io
 
@kush i guess if you need to do it, it sucks, but it makes sense since they want to stop supporting x86 eventually
 
@JLott Boobs + code == donating geeks
 
@ton.yeung in hingsight, yes
 
@JLott I think there are funding routes given that qualification, I just can't remember any of them right now
 
We have always done cotton candy in the past, but no one wants to do that this year.
 
2:54 PM
i still havent been able to install 8.1 on any of my machines, fails on 3 diff hardware
 
@KendallFrey You would think that.
 
@JLott Nylon candy
Wool candy
 
@CharlieBrown Is Intel going to make atom processors 64 bit?
 
@KendallFrey yeah, I mean that whether a dns is needed?
 
polyester candy
 
2:55 PM
@JLott kickstarter would probably net you, and serve to promote women in computing
 
@KendallFrey Homemade candy actually could work...
@ton.yeung Lol... thanks? I guess.
 
@DarkHorse No, you certainly don't need to manage DNS.
 
@kush i thought they already were
 
@CharlieBrown I thought they were just for projects
 
Maybe ask Marissa Mayer for suggestions
 
2:56 PM
@KendallFrey I must apply for a subdomain for that?
 
@DarkHorse No, it'll assign you one. I forget which one.
 
@ton.yeung yeah I guess that is true.. but we need funding for meetings and the girls want to attend a conference.
 
@JLott not neccessarily, you would just need to offer 'incentives'
 
I also think we are trying to get away from stereotypes so bunny suits might not be a good idea.
@CharlieBrown Such as?
 
@kush looks like only the latest are 64bit
 
2:58 PM
"You get a date with a real life female programmer!"
 
bahaha
 
@CharlieBrown you're right. Seems like everything will be 64 bit going forward
Intel Atom is the brand name for a line of ultra-low-voltage IA-32 and Intel 64 (x86-64) CPUs (or microprocessors) from Intel, originally designed in 45 nm CMOS with subsequent models, codenamed Cedar, using a 32 nm process. Atom is mainly used in netbooks, nettops, embedded applications ranging from health care to advanced robotics, and mobile Internet devices (MIDs). Atom processors are based on the Bonnell microarchitecture. On 21 December 2009, Intel announced the Pine Trail platform, including new Atom processor code-named Pineview (Atom N450), with total kit power consumption do...
 
@KendallFrey I had a try. but the pages installed only can be saw for myself
 
@DarkHorse What happens when other people try?
 
@KendallFrey report 404 error
 
2:58 PM
@JLott What conference?
 
@DarkHorse What URL is the page at?
 
@CharlieBrown I wonder if I can use my x86 msdn license for x64 installation
 
@ton.yeung True I guess lol. Wearing low cut shirts to every fundraiser.
@walkingTarget Let me find the link. Georgia Tech is hosting it
 
@kush i can send you a key if you need one, I have like 5 msdn accounts
 

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