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12:02 PM
@AnttiHaapala What would that even mean:?
 
Bahahahaha
 
I saw a rainbow today :-)
 
lucky
 
I see a rainbow every evening when it rains
Saw 2 at the same time once
 
12:11 PM
I see a blue sky with air safe to breathe three times a week.
 
It ended in the private parking lot of the business across the street. No pot of gold for me.
 
Aww, so sorry. Good luck next time :-)
 
@Kevin who said it was for you
 
It's for me because I'm the main character.
 
I need a blog.
 
12:15 PM
Gotta fund my Hero's Journey somehow.
 
This is getting profound
 
@Unihedro Go make one. I wrote a tutorial on how to start one in pelican :P
 
The rainbow is "supernatural aid", and me jumping the lot's fence is "crossing the threshold".
 
@GamesBrainiac Should I build a CMS from scratch or use something like Wordpress?
 
Divine Intervention ;)
@Unihedro go for a static blog generator.
and host it on github :D
 
12:17 PM
If you're the main character does that make us your plucky side kicks @Kevin?
 
My blog is statically generated @Unihedro
 
Cool! :D
 
@Ffisegydd Yes, but each of you get a spin-off in later seasons.
 
@Kevin I hope that's either a bullet Chess game or a Mario Kart tournament.
 
Awesome. You can all find out about my moody dark back story. Throughout the series we will allude repeatedly to "the incident" to build up suspense. Also certain numbers will continually appear to get the fans excited.
 
12:20 PM
I'm still waiting for the Lost spinoff where Ben and Hurley drive around in a van and solve mysteries.
A talking animal friend isn't outside the realm of possibility either.
 
I still have no trace of the byte of '87.
Disney is actually recording a FNAF movie!
 
Very cool data wrangling being done on PyPI logs: caremad.io/2015/04/a-year-of-pypi-downloads
That's 20% Python 3 usage there!
 
Whoa!
 
morning everyone
 
@MartijnPieters You should've seen the Flask graphs.
 
12:23 PM
@MartijnPieters that's a good note that one should remember to change the user agent
 
TIL whole foods sells pomegranates all year long, this might be the best discovery yet
 
Pomegranates in the off-season? Science has gone too far!
 
@GamesBrainiac are they available anywhere?
 
still only 5 % of downloads
 
12:25 PM
@AnttiHaapala overall, yes, but not all projects offer Py3 compatibility.
 
@Kevin On the contrary -- this is the future we have all dreamed of
 
Whoa, that's some peak there, Flask! imgur.com/a/LQ0SW
 
true... all in all ppl should stop coding for 2.5
 
nevermind space colonization or terraforming, instant gratification for delicious fruit is far more important
 
do all the __future__ imports and at least write 2to3able code if not do polyglot
 
12:26 PM
@corvid Man was not meant to toy with the annual life cycle!
 
@GamesBrainiac thanks, those are very interesting.
 
but if we could terraform mars, and make the whole planet a giant pomegranate farm... all will be right with mankind
 
Devil's advocate: on-demand fruit has way more utility for the common man than space travel.
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@MartijnPieters no problem. It is rather weird that there were spikes though.
 
Therefore, all astrophysicists should quit their jobs and become farmers.
 
12:28 PM
We need to genetically modify pomegranates so they're easier to eat.
 
oranges should be self-peeling for sure
and grapefruits
 
Hopefully avoiding the mistakes we made with the banana.
 
Someone ping DSM, tell him to get some denim over alls.
 
I have question regrarding Django:
I was trying to make a raw sql query and it requires a table from another app. I have imported the model from the app, but Django is appending a prefix, so it is looking for a table like projectname.appname_tablename but I want to use the table appname_tablename.
 
@DiptanshuKakwani Have you tried asking this on stackoverflow?
 
12:29 PM
@GamesBrainiac yeah, probably a buildbot gone haywire.
 
@DiptanshuKakwani projectname or database name?
 
@DSM, we've decided that a career change is in order for you.
 
I have same name for db and project :-/
 
@MartijnPieters Yea, you're right. I personally use flask with pypy 2.7 for anything serious.
 
Have we all sorted out celebratory gifs for if Martijn or Jon get elected? I'm calling shotgun on a McHammer dancing.
 
12:32 PM
We could still make a stop-motion video of dancing cabbages
 
We've got 7 hours...
All we need to do is train cabbages to dance.
 
There's a rather sprightly cabbage enemy in N64 game Banjo Kazooie. Somebody get FRAPS running!
 
That's a p. good picture.
 
Nice drawing!
 
12:36 PM
@Kevin re: on-demand fruit, I think the hope is if we pour billions into space travel, everything else will be invented by implication.
 
I'm down with that.
Fingers crossed for the good kind of massive societal change
 
Yeah, not the "if we convert China to an exhaust port, we can just move the Earth there" kind
 
I guess as an able-bodied white male in a first-world country, I should be conservative in regards to progress-based revolutions, so as to maintain my relatively high place in the power structure.
If civilization takes the space colonization progress track, I might end up being a phytoplankton farmer on the sub-sub-deck of space ark B. an un-enviable job.
 
12:56 PM
:)
Or a sci fi writer
Or, as they shall then be named, a historian
 
Finally in a cafe with some wifi.
And a Tunnock's chocolate tea cake the size of your fist!
 
So trained your cabbages to dance?
 
party cabbage
 
1:13 PM
@BhargavRao: That list could be a tuple, since its elements are constant. stackoverflow.com/a/29773154/4014959 The interpreter will actually convert it to a tuple when it gets converted to bytecode, but it's nice to be explicit about these things.
 
Thanks edited
I copied the OP's list actually
 
I have a brainfreeze. Someone shoot me to put me out of my misery. Please.
 
Now proper?
:D
 
Too late. I already died from the agony.
This is the risk of drinking an iced lemonade.
 
Hello guys
I have a question
 
1:18 PM
Fun fact: I don't get brain freeze. Just more proof that I'm a mutant.
 
@BhargavRao Cool. Actually, I was just reminded that it can't be a list : "TypeError: isinstance() arg 2 must be a class, type, or tuple of classes and types".
 
does json.dump(...) serialize custom class objects?
 
Still trying to figure out if I have laser vision.
 
No. No AFAIK.
 
@Kevin How many fingers am I holding up?
 
@PM2Ring Oops then just miss from a wrong answer!!!
 
Ouch. That burned!
 
Thanks
 
@JRichardSnape Sorry ;-)
 
That wasn't a laser that was just his amazing gaze, look upon it and see the birth of infinity.
 
1:21 PM
This is weird
for some reason pymemcached is serializing my custom objects.
 
The room? You ain't the first to say that bub.
 
I would attempt to make a "burning Eye of Sauron" emoticon here, but all of my attempts have been disturbingly yonic.
 
+1 for the phrase "disturbingly yonic"
 
(To save anyone the potentially minor trauma of googling that, it's the opposite of "phallic")
 
1:24 PM
I was just musing on whether anyone would google that at work...
 
I've googled worse at work.
 
haven't we all?
 
Thanks for the warning. I like my job ;)
 
I have learned to not open any youtube links my ex-colleague sends me. Whether at work or not.
I didn't even know you could do that with a tuning fork...
 
wow - that colleague quickly became ex
 
1:25 PM
I expect most of the google results would be of that one painter that liked making vaguely suggestive images of flowers.
Can't remember her name though
 
Georgia O'Keefe?
 
Yeah, that was it :-)
 
BTW @Ffisegydd, if the cafe signifies you're now post interview I hope it went well, else good luck
 
They never seemed vaguely suggestive to me. Just suggestive. No "vaguely."
 
I am not post interview I am pre interview. Waiting for a bus. Thanks for the luck :D
 
1:27 PM
Good luck to all Ffisegydds past and future.
And present Ffisegydd too, I guess.
 
Good luck @Ffisegydd! You're a good person. All the best!
 
Whoa whoa whoa. No. Good luck to the Ffisegydd now. I don't need those bas*ards travelling back in time with extra luck, trying to kill me.
Anyway what's happening with our symbol search engine startup?
We need a name, the rest is just busy-work.
 
I dunno, but my symbolism search engine is going terribly. The beta testers keep trying to find dirty pictures, but all they get are Georgia O'Keefe paintings.
 
Snicker.
 
Perverts are the life blood of search engines! This is no good.
 
1:31 PM
Do you have Snickers in murica?
 
We do.
 
Should definitely write it in GolfScript, for a start
 
We should write the backend in KevinScript, the website itself in KevinTML, and the dynamic parts in KevinQuery.
 
I worked at a place that had something like six OC-48's. A startup. They kept trying to make money the old-fashioned way. I (and a few others) tried to convince them to serve porn with all that bandwidth and make some real money, but they wouldn't do it.
 
Ahaha. I understand their resistance, though. They want a job that they can talk about at family dinners.
 
1:35 PM
Yep. Whereas I wanted money to pay for the family dinners.
 
It's hard enough explaining to grandma what you do, even if you're not trying to weave a tangled web of lies.
 
Rhubarb all
 
They could have kept their main (and failing) project. A false front.
 
user559633
in the future, all travelers will be deaf
 
user559633
 
user559633
1:41 PM
@WayneConrad That's a genre, you know
 
@Ffisegydd They also have Betty White.
That reminds me of the old joke:
A grade school teacher asks her students what their parents do for a living.

Billy proudly stands up and announces, "My daddy plays piano in a whorehouse."

The teacher is aghast and promptly changes the subject. Later that day, she calls Billy's mother and explains what Billy said.

Billy's mother says, "Actually, his father's an attorney, but how can we explain a thing like that to a seven-year-old?"
 
Heh
 
user559633
@Ffisegydd We also have chuckles, chortles, titters, and other manners of laughter.
 
user559633
 
Wow, more than 150$ for screen replacement
 
user559633
1:51 PM
I need a title for a talk I'm giving about changing technology infrastructures without creating downtime
 
Hot swappable infrastructure
 
"Changing Technology Infreastructures Without Creating Downtime, a 30 minute Tristan Jam"
 
"Leaked Footage From The Next Star Wars Film". It's a real attention-grabber.
 
user559633
'"Changing Technology Infreastructures Without Creating Downtime, a 30 minute Tristan Jam" - QuestionC'
 
"Free Pizza"
 
1:53 PM
"Welcome to my talk. The leaked footage was a lie. Don't try to escape, the doors are already locked"
 
user559633
"Embrace death, it's better than Star Wars 7, I promise you"
 
"Click on this link bait, you won't believe what happens next"
 
"I'm Not Trapped In Here With You, You're All Trapped In Here With Me", a talk by Tristan
 
user559633
@Kevin Oh, they'll already know that from the sweating and nervous crying
 
I hate wearing a white shirt. Dark colours hide stains :( how can I eat chilli properly in this thing!?
 
1:56 PM
"They say hell is being trapped with your friends forever. I'm here to disprove that theory"
 
"How to not get called at 2am"
Go straight to what every techie wants.
 
"The Tristan Fisher Story : a tale of love, loss, and changing technology infrastructures without creating downtime."
 
user559633
@WayneConrad lol if you think that outages aren't handled by my chatbot
 
user559633
IntrepidBrit it on it today
 
user559633
 
2:01 PM
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Q: Turn off caching in Flask

GeraintAny changes I make to a JavaScript file in Flask don't show up in the browser. I have refreshed my browser cache and disabled Browser Cache in Firebug but the problem persists. I'm assuming that Flask is also caching the static files on the server? Is it possible to stop Flask caching static J...

@tristan Isn't kids doing magic wonderful?
 
On one hand, it's good that the shelf looks pretty light, so injuries wouldn't be too severe. On the other hand, if the shelf was heavier, it might not have fallen over.
 
user559633
I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to have children
 
Man, choice of furniture is a difficult field.
 
user559633
@Kevin I'm sure that child is fine -- the back of the furniture bows out immediately after falling on him
 
I choose to believe that no one has ever died in a gif.
 
2:04 PM
@tristan they were fine. The BBC programme "Now You See It" included the clip, and they said the kids were fine, the furniture wasn't.
 
user559633
@MartijnPieters the close reason is weird, but i agree
 
(Don't post any counterexamples please, I prefer my happy fantasy)
 
@tristan well, they used curl and everything 'worked'..
so we cannot reproduce the caching issue.
 
user559633
fix caching in flask with this one weird trick
 
@tristan Parenthood looks pretty bad from a spectator perspective, but I'm sure the brain releases special chemicals that make them enjoy it.
I don't see how the human race could have propagated otherwise.
 
2:06 PM
 
user559633
@Kevin So, similar to death from exposure
 
@tristan Haha, am I the poor bugger who gets flattened by the bookcase? :P
 
@tristan Yep, it follows the "just lie down and accept it" theme
 
user559633
"peace good luck bro"
 
2:10 PM
hehe, I see the kids set up the whole thing.
 
2:21 PM
@MartijnPieters yeah - it's cool. You can just about see him getting into the right position in the version you posted.
 
DSM
Career change rhubarb for all!
 
Howdy
 
Grats!
 
I think he's joking :-) (calling back to this morning)
 
DSM
Well, I'm wearing a John Deere T-shirt, and I've been known to munch on hay, so it's not entirely out of the question.
 
2:37 PM
I need music.
 
Which kind of music?
 
@JRichardSnape you can almost see the mark on the floor!
 
I need music too...
 
I bet there's a place to fall into.
 
2:42 PM
Disclaimer: If you didn't play Monkey Island obsessively as a child, the appeal of a 8-bit version might be lost on you...
 
@corvid You can have my "Best Of: The Internet" mixtape. We've got CaramelDansen, Ievan Polkka, Never Gonna Give You Up, Mr. Trololo, HamsterDance, and Darude - Sandstorm.
 
DSM
Caramelldansen. Two Ls. ♫ slipper loss ♫
 
@IntrepidBrit I'm playing it now. Or rather, the sequel. I need a hint to get past the bouncer in the back alley.
I'll have you know, I beat the first one
[insert spongebob meme image]
And I only looked at a walkthrough three times.
 
I didn't actually beat any of the early ones. I didn't have any capability to save :(
When the SO and I move into the new place, we're going to (re)play them together. Because we're sickening like that
 
Protip: when your mom tells you to turn off the game and come to dinner, just turn off the monitor.
@IntrepidBrit Ok, well, if you figure out the back alley bouncer puzzle, let me know. I'll probably still be stuck on it perpetually.
 
2:52 PM
I like how youtube knows my tastes so well that it almost exclusively gives me female-lead metal bands
 
I'm wracking my brains. I can recall the Monkey Bouncer
 
Cbg yallll
 
cbg(Martin)
 
Do you guys use pycharm?
 
Nah
 
2:53 PM
@Martin I've used it in the past
 
I'm getting a bunch of highlights saying it can't resolve my attributes -_-
 
I use pycharm occasionally... I still kinda like vim the best
 
vimming, is winning
 
DSM
It's hard to take editors not written in lisp entirely seriously.
 
I was recommended to use pycharm by folks here lol
 
DSM
2:55 PM
Many people swear by it.
 
Bope. Okay
 
DSM
Bope?
 
Also, another question: do you guys tend to prefer to document param types in a docstring, or in the function declaration ?
 
It's just so nice to have access to ack and terminal so quickly in vim
 
Oh, yeah. "Bope" means like "whatever" in this city
 
DSM
2:56 PM
Vraiment?!
 
Oui!
I'm surprised you remembered where I'm from lol
 
DSM
Je me souviens. Je déteste les Habitants. ;-)
 
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Wait, what? There are other languages? I thought that was a myth perpetuated by Gene Roddenberry...
 

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