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11:00 PM
Did you try a firmer handshake? Hook the thumb firmly.
 
Well the same appliance that handles my tunnel also handles all the PCI-scope traffic tunneled back here
so if it had gone down, I was about to get a call from every single location saying "Hey we can't do debit and credit"
and our network engineer is out of town until Friday, so it would have been a long phonecall of him telling me being his remote hands
 
Sounds like an interesting problem
affects a non-aristocratic air init?
 
At 4pm I'll trade my interesting problem for a non-problem any day.
at 9am I'll take the problem :)
 
My wife walked out of a restaurant when attempting to pick up take-out when they told her she had to pay cash because their credit/debit card system was down just last night.
She just left her Indian food right there. We had Mexican instead.
Not a bad choice, but I feel bad for the restaurant, just a little.
 
I feel bad for the restaurant staff. They waste product, don't get paid for it, and the people there are rarely at fault.
unless somebody tripped over the cord :P
but what is your wife going to do? It's not her fault that they can't take her money.
 
11:07 PM
I assume that when I go to pay for something at a small business and they tell me that I have to pay cash for some stupid reason that they actually screwed up financially and are super close to bankrupt.
 
I assume it's because they can't afford an I.T. department so when the network goes down they have to get the owner's nephew who's "Good with computers" to come fix it when he gets done with his homework.
 
Well she walked 30 minutes to pick it up, so she wasn't excited to walk another 30 minutes to the closest bank ATM nor to pay an ATM fee nearby.
30 minutes round trip.
 
I had a shady boss who once jacked up the service charge of our ATM to something like $12/transaction then removed the payment terminal and took cash only
They weren't in business very long.
 
That borders on unconscionable.
Probably a desperate move to stay in business, am I right?
 
No just a cash grab afaik.
 
11:11 PM
Well if it worked, they would have stayed in business.
 
They closed the location a couple months later but the business is still going strong I believe
 
user559633
/me thinks "9/11 flight security fee"
 
user559633
this is just the pasteur food safety fee
 
I don't know. It wasn't any of my business and frankly I didn't feel too personally bad about it since I wasn't technically an employee
 
may have been a desperate move to save the location.
 
11:12 PM
I dealt cards at the place
 
oh, that kind of place, well...
 
My understanding is that the location went under because of some bad press after they overpromised something before a contract was signed
 
You weren't technically an employee?
How does that work?
"Yes, we contract with the finest card dealers..."
 
sigh okay, so the way gambling houses work outside of areas with sanctioned gaming comissions (e.g. Vegas, Indian Casinos, etc...)
is that the location typically has a social gaming clause in their city/county/state statutes somewhere
something to keep the cops from kicking in your door if you're sitting around your living room table playing cards with some friends for nickles and dimes
 
oh, I get it
 
11:15 PM
poker houses use that law to provide a social club where there HAPPENS to be poker played
You pay monthly dues
to become a member
as a member you can come in, relax, enjoy the bar and the giant TVs
 
user559633
oh nice, like a bunch of bars in seattle. you can smoke inside and the drinks are no frills and cheap, but you pay a yearly fee.
 
oh yeah and 90% of the floorspace is for poker
well the only way they can get away with that is if the house isn't in on the game
if a paid employee is dealing the cards, it's a house game
so instead the dealers are volunteers. Paid only in tips
This goes along fine with the members -- they'd be tipping their dealers anyway (because they're responsible gamblers)
 
ok
which state was this in?
 
a decent dealer can get in 20-30 hands an hour, and the winner of every hand tips $1 or more
Oregon
 
Cool
schemes to move to Oregon to deal cards to aristocrats
 
11:19 PM
It was fun, but the owner of that establishment had some....*interesting* ideas on how a dealer should deal
nothing illegal or immoral, just...stupid
You know all those high schoolers who come on SO and post questions like "I need a program that does XYZ, but I can't use libraries or loops"
that's the kind of thing he'd force his dealers to do. Just tie our hands
 
ok, like what?
schemes to move to Oregon to open a club that lets its members play cards
 
I'm struggling to remember. Placements of the pot and the muck were non-standard. Burn and turn was weird. His REQUIRED method of flopping was realllllly weird
the only one that could have been exploited was the burn. It was done really slowly and slid from the deck to the felt. The player on the dealer's left could often see the burn card the way he wanted it done
 
Well, go to business school and get your MBA. Differentiation, baby. The members must have liked the idiosyncracies, or they'd go elsewhere.
 
Nah they're gamblers. They went everywhere.
There was nobody in that club ever who didn't play elsewhere. They just happened to be on that side of town that day :P
 
Yeah, but they know what they get when they go there.
 
11:25 PM
I know what I'm getting when I decide to get McDonald's 'cuz it's cheap and close, too
Doesn't mean I enjoy it ;)
 
Yeah but they're gamblers, so they're superstitious.
You change things up and they lose, they're blaming you.
 
yep that's why we all had to do it the same :P
It was a style decision like any other. If you worked for a software company whose project manager forced you to use 6 space wide tabs for your code, you'd feel the same way we felt working for him
 
keeps everyone straight
 
There was no great reason for it, he just liked the way it looked. There's an industry standard that we all know and had been using for years, but this guy says "Nah that's lame. Do it this way instead."
Breeds a bit of contempt :P
 
ok, fine.
Well, you don't have to have contempt, you can make $145 an hour in downtown Manhattan.
 
11:29 PM
:D
 
I have a friend who charges $200 an hour. But I don't know if he gets it very much.
But that's the advertised rate.
 
I consult for $80/hr and I get it very little :P
 
What's your closest metropolitan area, and how close are you to the center?
 
Portland, OR. 200 miles away :)
that's not EXACTLY true. Salem is about 100 miles from me and that counts as metro
 
Next talk is starting "vfGuard- Binary-level Protection for Virtual Dispatch Calls in C++ Binaries."
Watch talks drunk, code sober, debug - infrequently.
 
11:33 PM
I tend to prefer the opposite
watch talks sober, code drunk, write test cases before I'm allowed to touch code (BECAUSE I'M DRUNK)
I'm more creative when I'm less sober
but I pay more attention when I'm sober, and I usually want to remember what the talk was about :P
Anywho, quittin' time for me. Rhubarb all
 
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