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6:03 PM
@Kevin Should I sing out of tune and edit that typo out?
 
Haha. It's fine with me.
 
Umm.... that's work done for the day...
eaten dinner, dogs are fed, house is locked... don't particularly fancy staring at any more code tonight... stuck for options now
Was gonna have a beer, but don't feel like one now...
 
I'm not sure if I am thinking of this too complex-ly...
 
Hi cbg all :)
 
cbg @user3197452
 
6:11 PM
Is there any better alternative to str_a[:len(str_b)] == str_b ?
 
If I have a few models, users, and roles, would it be a good idea to have each model have privileges (IE, modify, delete, create), then some role table which defines what each user can do to each model?
 
@user3197452 if str_a.endswith(str_b) ?
 
CURSES.
 
Thanks :D Thats exactly what I wanted :)
 
@Ffisegydd oh come on... I bothered with the @ and the if :)
 
DSM
6:13 PM
Erm.. isn't that startswith?
 
@DSM ahh... ahh humm
 
DSM
I just had chicken katsu. It's brain food.
 
@DSM I must try that :)
If I eat that for breakfast, dinner, lunch and supper do you reckon I can rep cap and hit 50k in a couple of days?
(or just suffer from indigestion and need air-freshner ready at hand?)
 
I believe in you.
 
DSM
Just let me know so I can preorder my beverages and save by buying in bulk.
 
6:17 PM
@Ffisegydd thank you. The potatoes I've taught to sing opera have always said that. They're good mates.
 
@Jon if you're bored and want to read something :P
 
omg... yes - I'd completely forgotten about your ping earlier...
After the first "The" - I've managed it that far... is the rest still English?
 
Holy cow !! :D Thats one heck of a title !!
 
@Jon just look at the purdy photos.
 
@Ffisegydd tl;dr ... GeSe₂ are the bad guys, right? Some kind of all-powerful tech corporation?
 
6:23 PM
@Zero...yes...exactly...
 
I'm sesquipedalophobic - don't like long words :(
3
 
I finally did it, I trained a crow to do something
 
Code Python?
Is this Crow you?
 
and it only took 2 boxes of mcdonalds fries!
 
Did you ... train it to eat McDonalds fries?
 
6:26 PM
nope, I'm a corvid, that's like the ambiguous form of a crow. I could also be a jackdaw or a magpie, you'll never know!
 
DSM
I hope the memorial service will be well attended.
 
@Kaster Can I ask you to review the chatroom rules please? We rather not have people post their fresh questions here.
1 message moved to Trash can
And I'll take my foot out of my mouth and go look for some tea.
@Kaster: apologies, I missed that it was posted yesterday, not today.
 
@Martijn in his defence it was from yesterday
Ah nvm :P
 
in Trash can, 5 mins ago, by Kaster
Hi guys, anyone can help? I couldn't figure out which room is most appropriate for my questions. Thanks. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25498773/batch-posting-on-blogger-using-gdata‌​-python-client
 
@MartijnPieters well, it depends on the definition of freshness :) but thanks for restoring
 
6:30 PM
In regards to this comment: "I hope it's not against the rules... Bump." IIRC, commenting on a post doesn't move it up the active questions list anyway. So "bumping" in this way isn't against the rules, because it doesn't actually do anything.
 
Supp
 
@Kevin ok :(
 
I believe making a substantial edit to the question does move you up the list, if you're looking for an alternative
 
I'm about to start a bounty, but still need to wait 11hrs.
@Kevin, that's good to know. Not sure what else I can add there though to make the edit substantial :) thanks for the info.
 
6:34 PM
@Martijn I've cast a delv on that one...
 
@JonClements thanks, it's gone.
 
DSM
It's not a good SO question, but I have to admit I kind of enjoy those puzzles.
 
Lets do daily guess the language games!
 
@Kaster it looks like a good question - not quite sure what much more you can do - I'll do a bounty for you tomorrow (if I remember) as I'd be curious as to the answer
I'd take a stab at C#
 
Is that your final answer? Do you want to lock it in?
 
6:36 PM
ahhh.... how many lifelines do I have left?
 
42
 
wait... can you protect a @staticmethod within a class with a decorator like @role_required, or is that all around a bad idea?
 
@DSM sure, we can do those in chat just fine.
 
DSM
Use one of them on a game developer friend.
 
But the question was already attracting wrong guesses.
 
6:37 PM
@JonClements thing is it's not really python question either... Well, except the part where someone can show me how to use batch functionality in gdata methods. Other than that, I believe it's more xml stuff, which is where I'm completely lost. Have no idea on how it works.
 
All that code in the linked question is valid C++, assuming there's a /* and */ just above and below the edges of the screenshot ;-)
 
@Kevin smart-arse :)
14 mins ago, by Jon Clements
I'm sesquipedalophobic - don't like long words :(
come on... how come that didn't get starred - I've been waiting for years to use that in a conversation!
 
Normally I'd mock the guy for taking a physical picture of a screen, but it's surprisingly unintuitive to take a screenshot on a phone.
I had mine for like a year and a half before I knew I could screenshot things by swiping the edge of my hand along the screen. Not quite as user-friendly as a "Print Scrn" button.
 
@Kaster well, I'm not sure of the answer, but like I said, I'll put a bounty on it tomorrow if you remind me... you might as well keep ~125
@Kevin it's an easier method that trying to press the power and home button at the same time
 
Oh @Jon, what did you make of DW?
 
6:41 PM
Are you asking me that Iain? :)
 
hahahaa
I take back nothing
 
@JonClements I can through 124 max :) and I don't think we combine our efforts in that lol. Not that I'd mind
throw*
 
I'll put a 100 on it or something
 
I ask again @Jon ;)
 
@Ian - oh you're talking to me now are you ? :)
 
6:43 PM
Yeh, was a mixup with this other guy @John earlier, but he's gone now
 
@Ian I've watched it four times now
 
geez
 
Doctor Who was a little rough for me - I have a hard time decoding some British non-United-Statesian accents if I haven't been acclimated to them through continuous exposure.
 
Oh no ^
 
I like Capaldi
 
6:43 PM
We should declare that spoilers are now allowed.
 
When I first watched Eccleston's run, I had about a 50% success rate in understanding anything Rose said
 
I spoke to an American girl ages ago who said the same thing
 
It's been long enough.
 
DSM
The story was slight, but I like Capaldi in the role. And it was funny to see them hang a lampshade on the complaints of fans that he was too old to play the Doctor (?!).
 
@JonClements Note the someone posted the right language in a comment, but the OP has not read the link provided and still was guessing C++ or Python.
 
6:43 PM
It's English @Kevin!
 
Whoops.
 
:P
 
@JonClements sorry my bad, missing words, misspelling and such... I meant I don't think both of us can put bounty on the same question. At least that's what I got from bounty explanation.
 
@DSM I loved the jabs in the dialogue
The story needed to be thin; it needed to focus on the new actor.
 
Yeh I like Capaldi was well, - as @Martijn just commented at, I think "his" doctor will make lots of cheeky/snide remarks :P
 
6:45 PM
Nice to see Moffat actually writing for his women again too ... Clara was great :-)
 
@Kaster no you can't, I think Jon is offering because he's got 50,000 rep so 100 rep is a drop in the ocean whilst if you do it yourself it'll bring you down to like 20ish rep :)
 
@Kaster nope... it's up to you... I have slightly more rep than you do... you don't need to lose your rights to downvote/comment etc...
 
@ZeroPiraeus yeh I agree, I think she's a really good character
 
@JonClements ok gotcha. That would be great. Thanks.
 
I feel like you can't judge the new actor on the first episode. The whole "regeneration sickness" thing means you don't get a complete picture of their long-term personality.
 
6:46 PM
@Ffisegydd thanks for clarification.
 
@IanClark Well, she was marvellous in Asylum and Snowmen, then he seemed to lose interest in actually making her a person for most of S7.
 
@Zero, hah :P
 
@Kaster Just curious, why are you not using the blogger api?
 
@Jon finished The Dark Tower.
Was in tears at the end.
 
@Humdinger gdata does use blogger api. it was too low level http stuff for me
@Humdinger I mean to use it directly
@Humdinger and it still has the same issue with 50 posts per day limitation. which is avoidable, at least I hope that, if using batch methods. but again, I couldn't figure out all that xml stuff.
 
user559633
6:51 PM
SE is my rubber ducky debugging serverfault.com/questions/624524/…
 
@Humdinger right now I have working code, which posts every 30 minutes, and it takes me to the 48 per day. but that's gonna take like a month of non stop running :) I thought I'd just ask meanwhile
 
@Ffisegydd Did you heed the author's warning?
 
I read it and very much appreciated his stand but I continued and read anyway.
I thought it was a great thing of him to do (to actually include it for those who wanted to read on)
 
@Ffisegydd I think everyone who ever read did the same :)
 
Haha. I was thinking the same thing.
 
6:53 PM
@Ffisegydd glad you enjoyed them all :)
 
DSM
Oh, and I also enjoyed the hints that this Doctor may not be the nicest of people by nature. We'll see what plays out: I have my own theories about why he looks like who he looks like (which I thought they were going to ignore.)
 
@DSM yeh I thought that played that nicely
 
The idea that the journey is more important than the destination is very true.
But I'm glad I read it anyway.
 
Capaldi has made some guest appearances in Doctor Who before, right?
 
@Kaster Api/post limits are considered "soft" limits. If you contact a blogger/google support rep, you may be able to increase those limits. If you only need it for a one time thing, they could probably temporarily remove limits
 
6:54 PM
Jon would know ^
 
I guess that's what they were playing at when he said "where have I seen this face before"
 
@Humdinger hm, I never thought about it. I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
 
We're still left with "Missy"
Who put the ad in the shop window, and how does she know the Dr?
 
DSM
@Kevin: yep. Since he's done it more than once it's hard to be sure, but guesses are fun..
 
You mean the woman at the end?
 
6:56 PM
Yup
 
Is River human?
 
DSM
@Jon: a name I don't like much.
 
Obv, she's the Doctor's wife (uh, second wife?)
 
DSM
@Ian: half-human, at least..
 
@Ian well... no River was Melanie...
 
6:57 PM
But I mean to say it wasn't her?
 
if you recall back to "Let's Kill Hitler"
 
Oh yeh ofc
 
What I want to know is, what was in room #11 in the episode where they're trapped in the alien hotel labyrinth with the alien minotaur.
I know it aired like three years ago, but I want to talk about it now.
 
@Kevin that's been debated on scifi.SE
 
Not sure I can even remember that one
 
6:59 PM
I'm referring to the woman at 1h14m bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p023w9fy/…
 
I do vaguely remember a weird hotel one, and a minotaur, but not the two together
Jon!
But yes, that's who I was referring too
 
"I do hope my boyfriend wasn't too mean to you"... "I like his new accent though"
 
So it's not River?
 
Well, River died in the library
 
Yep, it's indeed on scifi.SE. who did the doctor see in his room?
 
7:01 PM
and this is the after life?...
 
@Ian River said her good byes in "The Name Of The Doctor"
 
River continued to show up after she died, and also after she was born. Time traveling characters don't have to have "final" appearances :-)
 
although, with Dr Who, there's a huge licence for wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey stuff
 
^^
 
DSM
I was always a little surprised that we didn't see Amy and Rory raise the regenerated-baby version of River.
 
7:02 PM
+1 for the quote too
 
Although they might have had a line like "this is the second-to-last entry in my 'diary of where I'm going to meet you'", so maybe it was final.
 
@Kevin it's hard to tell... but - my guess would be the War Doctor
 
OK all I'm running away now, have a nice evening :) Rhubarb
 
had to be either that or Rose anyway
@Ian see ya soon :)
 
DSM
Thinking about Doctor Who, and how to merge my "Canadian Doctor" and "bring back the Valeyard but make him cool ideas", isn't getting my Java finished.
 
7:04 PM
@Jon :)
 
DSM
@Jon: no, but you can finish Java. Speaking of which, cup is empty.
 
@DSM does Java ever finish?
I thought its very design was to be perpetually tortuous?
 
DSM
Wow, accidental time travel there.
 
Mine's a tea, 2 sugars, dash of milk thanks...
 
I guess it's just part of the show that you don't always get a concrete picture of things.
How many times have the Daleks gone extinct, now...?
And yet, there they are in the teaser for this season.
 
7:08 PM
@IanClark No I'm back now
 
rbrb all, dinner
 
I think we might be being pushed towards thinking "Missy" is post-Library-death-uploaded-River-consciousness/proto-Tasha-Lem ...
But you can't trust hints.
 
Ahaha. I was getting very confused reading Can Voyager still use its thrusters to avoid hazards?, because I thought they were talking about Star Trek: Voyager, not the real life Voyager.
"Uh, if you read The Science Of Star Trek, you'd know that Federation ships use deflector arrays to push debris out of its path, not thrusters. God, read a book some time"
 
DSM
I hope it's not River, or anyone else we've met post-Eight; makes the world feel too small.
 
The world already feels too small because 99% of their earth-oriented adventures take place in Britain ;-)
 
7:18 PM
oh... haven't done my close vote thingies today... once I get that crossed off my list, then I'm really not sure what I'm doing... sighs
 
Hey, some of us remember when 99% of the off-earth adventures took place in the same quarry :-P
 
@Kevin cough New York and every major super hero movie cough
 
DSM
I'm not sure if I'm disappointed in myself or pleased with myself that I don't know this, but what's the community decided on numbering scheme?
What number are we calling Capaldi?
 
He's the twelfth.
 
@Ffisegydd Spider Man wouldn't be nearly as much fun in Wyoming. "The tallest building in the state is three stories high. How am I supposed to websling around!"
 
7:21 PM
Although - in the Dr Who special @Zero - the time lords did exclaim "all thirteen of them!"
 
What!? It's be even more awesome!
 
DSM
So we're just going to call Hurt the War Doctor or something?
 
Pretty sure that Moffat Has Spoken on that - and he's definitely the one after Smith, who is definitely 11.
 
"Go for it spidey...you...you swing between those 2 story houses..."
 
"Oh, a conveniently placed dirigible, just offscreen. How convenient!"
 
7:23 PM
"haha" mocks the evil villain as he lures Spider Man into a quaint English village with a couple of bungalows per street...
 
When I need to insert a number between two other numbers, I usually go with "threeve". Hurt is the threeveteenth Doctor.
 
Circuitously reminded that I must try and watch some Fellini before I die ...
 
That Canadian movie version of Dr Who was a disaster :(
 
Doesn't surprise me.
Getting all SO users to agree on anything would be like herding cats.
 
7:27 PM
@Kevin put loads of catnip down... works fine for me
then I can run out barking at them, and the ones that don't run fast enough I can play with in my jaws
/me is a clever puppy
 
An army of cats tripping out of their mind, vs one dog... What could possibly go wrong
 
I have a kevlar puppy coat... and the holy-paw-grenade if I need it
 
if you subclass something, does it also inherit the methods of the super class?
 
I suppose it's unfair to call them an "army", in any case.
 
@corvid yup - else there wouldn't be much point is there? :)
 
7:32 PM
Getting cats to work together is like, well...
 
so could I make something like a CRUDMixin class, which has methods create, read, update, and delete?
 
@Kevin getting the American and British armed forces working together without the American's blowing up the British troops? :)
 
I am particularly disjointed today: American soldiers → chocolate →"I have chocolate!". If it weren't so cold I could probably be quite creative.
 
bah, DLC. You can get whatever skins you want for free in the PC version.
 
DSM
7:41 PM
Does anyone know of a Python-based open source web data explorer? I can find open source DEs; Python-based QT ones; but nothing quite of the drag-and-drop interface I'm thinking of with all the adjectives I want. I expect the answer is no or I'd probably have heard of it.
 
@DSM umm... what exactly do you mean by explorer? pivot tables and the like ?
 
DSM
@Jon: yeah (with the usual plot tools). There's been some interest by the higher-ups in expanding an existing tool we use but I can see it being a major timesink and I wouldn't mind tossing it in favour of something else.
 
can think of some Java based ones that might do that... but no real Python ones
I did a very good job of one (even if I say so myself) in 2007 that was a cross between Python and C#
 
what does this mean exactly? return commit and self.save() or self
 
I've never heard of something like that and I like to keep my ear to the internet-ground for those kind of things.
 
7:50 PM
@corvid It's short-circuit logic.
 
DSM
Hmmph. And just when the gridiron is warming up. :-/
@Jon: was your original one webby? If so, did you do the web stuff on the Python or C# side?
 
@ZeroPiraeus so basically, if commit is true and self.save() is true, return that, otherwise return self? First time seeing that
 
... where "that" is self.save(), yes.
 
DSM
@corvid: I find the dis module comes in handy for stuff like this:
>>> dis.dis(lambda: commit and self_save() or self)
  1           0 LOAD_GLOBAL              0 (commit)
              3 POP_JUMP_IF_FALSE       15
              6 LOAD_GLOBAL              1 (self_save)
              9 CALL_FUNCTION            0
             12 JUMP_IF_TRUE_OR_POP     18
        >>   15 LOAD_GLOBAL              2 (self)
        >>   18 RETURN_VALUE
You can check whether your interpretation matches Python's this way.
 
that sounds like a good idea, I always wonder why some people do certain things in tutorials
 
7:56 PM
@corvid Nowadays you'd more likely use return self.save() if commit else self ... X and Y or Z was more common before Python had Y if X else Z.
 
@WalleCyril Hey
Hey everyone!
 
cbg @PsychO
hmm... wondering if we should put a minecraft server back on sopython for a bit - we're not nearly using enough of its resources...
 
I have a question... but it's very dumb
 
heya @Shashi
 
Hello
I need some noob suggestions :p
 
8:11 PM
You need us to suggest a noob to you?
corvid is a noob.
 
Pardon my words, I am not a native English speaker
 
That's fine, I was making a joke at corvid's expense.
 
@Ffisegydd a little unfair after his hard work at the latest sopython-site commit Stewie :(
 
@Shashi What do you need help with?
 
I am a PHP developer by profession and I have good understanding of common programming concepts including OOP and all (user codeigniter for my work most of the time) and I am planning to learn Python and Django. How do you think I should aproach this as most of the tutorials I go with bore me with basic programming concepts.
 
8:13 PM
@Ffisegydd so err... should I put up another MC server do ya reckon?
@Shashi are you sure you want to venture into Python... once you get to grasp what it does - you are never going to like the taste of PHP anymore
 
I am a noob haha only been on python for like a year
 
@Shashi I would just start with docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/writing/style then complete some django tutorials. Python is simple enough that you can pick it up
 
DSM
If tutorials bore you find a concrete task that needs doing and do it in Python instead. I know I'd go crazy trying to do a "learn Python the hard way"-style tutorial.
 
here's the problem: trying to make a tojson method for a model in SQLAlchemy, but it comes out like this, instead of having the readable values:
{'body': <sqlalchemy.orm.attributes.InstrumentedAttribute at 0x7fdeb67f2898>,
 'title': <sqlalchemy.orm.attributes.InstrumentedAttribute at 0x7fdeb67f26d8>,
 'category': <sqlalchemy.orm.attributes.InstrumentedAttribute at 0x7fdeb67f2a58>,
 
DSM
One advantage of trying to accomplish something real is that you can't trick yourself into thinking that you know more than you do, which I used to do to myself right before exam time. :-/
 
8:16 PM
@Shashi You also might want to watch this video: mijingo.com/products/screencasts/python-for-php-developers
 
@classmethod
def to_json(cls):
    """ returns a json representation of a model """
    columns = [ c.name for c in cls.__table__.columns ]
    return dict([ (c, getattr(cls, c)) for c in columns ])
 
@JonClements I already have started hating PHP, not hating but its such a drag when I have to re-do someone else's code.
@DSM
I was planning to do that
I have a project in mind which I planned to do in PHP but Now will be good choice to try and acomplish that in Django and Python
Its a startup website that I have planned.
 
@JonClements cbg means ?
 
Little bit on ecommerce and little bit on ecommerce.
 
@PsychOPhobiA cbg = Cabbage (you might want to read up on the chatroom rules, there is a sectioon on it)
 
8:21 PM
@PsychO you've been here before... sopython.com/pages/chatroom
 
I don't remember being there
 
I quote from the page, "Incidentally, if you've just been greeted with the word "cbg" or "cabbage" then you may want to have a look here..."
 
No - I meant - you have been in this room before
 
Ah...
What did I do now that caused you to say cbg? btw I can''t got to that sight so any other quotes you can make?
 
cbg means "Hello"
 
8:23 PM
Is it french?
or...?
 
No it's short for "Cabbage"
 
hm... interesting word there.
Was uh.. that a real word? You know cabbage is a vegetable right?
Well no offense any ways.
Btw anyone interested in helping me out with a project?
 
user559633
depends on the project
 
okay fixed it it was a stupid mistake.
 
If its a game, is there some time in your hands?
 
8:40 PM
@PsychOPhobiA It would help you understand the word cabbage if you actually read the article, and you appreciate people with RIC Disorder (such as kevin)
 
@PsychOPhobiA: sopython.com/salad
 
user559633
why are you being cagey with the project?
 
@PsychOPhobiA Also, if you read the rules, you would have read, "You may ask your question without a preamble.
For example, you do not need to say “anyone here know Django?” before asking a question about Django. Even if you do, the Django experts in the room might not step forward until hearing the actual question. They may not wish to commit themselves to help until they know how much effort it will entail."
 
user559633
hey humdinger can i ask you a question?
 
If your not interested then you don't have to be involved. Btw, how do you create collision between to objects and if one object collides or hits the other object the objects randomly go the opposite direction in different directions?
 
8:43 PM
@tristan is that a preamble?
 
user559633
hey @Humdinger it has to do with programming, is that okay?
 
GAH!! Violating two rules at once!
 
user559633
if objects "randomly go the opposite direction [sic]", then it's not really random, is it?
 
user559633
@Humdinger i'll PM you if that's okay so you can help me with my question
 
@tristan ok, i concede
 
DSM
8:44 PM
@tristan: okay, that last one made me laugh.
 
@tristan Well no. How would you write that?
I mean I would do something like this
 
user559633
okay so here's the question @Humdinger: i'm using programming to do some networking how would i do that?
 
user559633
i would probably look into bitwise vector transfigurations @PsychOPhobiA
 
oh...
 
Actually... might play some scrolls
heya @Jerry - was pondering where you were earlier :)
 
8:47 PM
Elder Scrolls?
 
@PsychOPhobiA nope this one
 
in and out @JonClements Been busy lately too with SQL and annoying security review tasks that nobody wants to do at work lol
 
@Jerry SQL's okay... :)
 
@tristan you remind me of one of my good friends
 
yes, it is, except when you have someone who tells you to do the thing in a different way than what was told initially so you have to recheck everything =/
 
8:48 PM
a "freind"? Is that like a cross between a friend and a fiend? :)
 
and it's been two months since I wrote that query, so it took a while for me to understand what I was thinking back then, oh well
 
@JonClements nice catch...
 
@Jerry that's what comments are for I guess :)
 
that's what they should do, but well, with being short on time and stuff... :s
 
user559633
i think i'm going to drink all the beer tonight
 
8:51 PM
@tristan not all the beer... you ain't touching mine thanks buddy :)
 
user559633
so bottoms up gents.
 
@tristan I'll raise a half drunk cup of tea
 
53
Q: Volunteer to help mentor one of 16 women starting a career in programming

LauraDiversity in tech has become an increasingly urgent issue, both on- and offline. We have always tried to make Stack Exchange an inclusive environment, but we know we can and should do more. One thing that we're excited about doing is participating in a new fellowship at the Flatiron School, an...

So many comment.
 
user559633
@JonClements meh, it's okay, we're in different time zones and beer is such a popular beverage that I would die if I managed to drink all beer that exists at point $NOW and then tried to stretch that to a distance of _$NOW_+5 seconds, I'd die
 
user559633
Increasingly urgent? >_____>
 
8:55 PM
@Ffisegydd That's got me het up somewhat
 
I think it's a great thing to get women into tech, I've done bits myself in the past with getting girls to be interested in Physics with our Physics Society. My main beef is that it shouldn't be a meta post.
It's been posted by a member of staff and people have tried to close it, I assume it's been re-opened as there are currently no close votes on it.
But the members of staff should respect the same rules that everyone else does.
 
user559633
The issue isn't that there are not enough diversity hires, it's that the pool of qualified candidates is not particularly diverse. Whatever though, if it's not diverting resources from an existing publicly funded program, who cares.
 
@Ffisegydd it was closed, reopened by a mod, then locked for a bit, then unlocked
 
user559633
i would guess that stackexchange is entering the race to the bottom on trying to put out the image of inclusiveness
 
@tristan apparently... because "women" don't have enough representation in parliament some of our parties here are purely just excluding men from the positions to make sure they got a woman in
 
user559633
8:59 PM
that's pretty messed up.
 
I've never cared when employing someone if they're male/female/gay/straight/have an artificial limb/dress as a woman but are actually a man...
 
user559633
that meta post is so obviously not related to the site and is so obviously related to something off-site, it must have the backing of stack exchange
 
If you're the best person for the job, then that's who I want for the job
 
I have nothing against women in tech, but I do have a simple statement, Why do we care? The opposite gender issue exists in other fields such as nursing. When I meet a male nurse, I almost laugh, but there are not thousands of dollars going into getting males in that field. So the tech field is mostly male, why does it matter?
 
user559633
@JonClements yeah, same. i could not care less about physical characteristics/sexual preferences/identity
 

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