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2:00 PM
If anyone knows a good "how do I extract specific digits from an integer?" question, this post is a dupe.
 
@Kevin he did not even try
 
All the more reason to downvote and find a close target
 
Someone told me Ubuntu is heavily dependent on it so I want to really see where the Python dependencies begin
 
@RonaldMunodawafa why?
 
Just to please my inquisition
It is a learning process and learning is the primary culture of civilisation
 
2:04 PM
I don't need the lecture, just say "I'm just curious" :)
@Kevin I answered it
 
But is it not the programmer's job to figure out a way of extracting specific digits from an integer known or unknown
 
Wat?
 
I am certain what he/she asked can be easily solved he just sits down with a pen and a paper. Most coders would get it right quickly without doing so.
 
@RonaldMunodawafa he's writing a computer program that needs to be able to do that
I'm pretty sure that is his job
 
Even a beginner would solve his problem and that smells like laziness to me. At least you did not paste any code for him to copy
 
2:13 PM
It's better to give a hilariously useless answer than curse the darkness. So I did that.
 
Wow... puppy broke 52k this morning without doing anything... yay puppy... only 48k to go...
 
@Ronald do not judge beginners too harshly, not everyone is such a stellar programmer as you must be.
 
I am not a stellar programmer. But I sensed laziness on his part and it looked like part of a homework problem
 
Wohoo, my 3rd answer. Better watch out Jon Skeet, I am encroaching on your turf now.
The fact that Jon has 80 answers for shows how much I have to catch up..
 
@Martijn I bet he can't sleep at night in fear of you taking over :p
 
2:16 PM
@RobertGrant he should be able to infer a method from your answer. @Ffisegydd he might have not yet covered time conversion in math class and he might still be in junior in junior school so you are right
 
@MartijnPieters To be fair, only a single one of these is actually a C# answer :P
 
@poke Shhhhhhhh!
 
:D
 
Woop woop, got two upvotes for a factually wrong answer.
Upon correcting it and adding four more paragraphs of good information: nothing happened!
Lesson learned: answer fast and sloppy
 
@Kevin don't you start encroaching on my turf either.
 
2:24 PM
@Kevin I got 7 upvotes on a closed question yesterday. So, it’s true!
 
@MartijnPieters There's room enough in this town for both of us :-)
 
I have seen people answering very old questions worse and less informative than the best answer accepted. Why do they do that?
 
@poke most answers on this post are wrong too.
Yet I don't see many downvotes..
 
lol… >_<
 
@RonaldMunodawafa Cost-benefit analysis: five seconds of effort, yielding a 0.1% chance of someone accidentally upvoting it at some point.
 
2:27 PM
Lol I got an upvote
 
I kind of want to answer this one question with just “Yes.”… because OP already suspected the right thing.
 
That will fall under the minimum length requirement, though :-)
 
That's what she sa-oh, never mind
 
And people get mad when you submit "Yes. This sentence is here to satisfy the length requirement."
 
@poke what, like this you mean?
 
morning friends
 
Yo
 
Pnawn dda.
 
selamat pagi
 
@MartijnPieters pretty much xD
 
2:34 PM
Is it wise to delete my Windows
 
In winter? Probably not.
 
@poke that was funny
 
@Ronald I really don't see how we can answer that question.
We know nothing about your circumstances or anything.
It's literally like me asking "Shall I press this button?"
 
@Ffisegydd Do it!
 
You're trying to uninstall Windows and install Linux, right? Sounds like a fun experiment.
 
2:36 PM
@poke I did it, and now look! Kevin has got another random star!
 
Start by uninstalling all operating systems from your computer first
 
I prefer working in Ubuntu. BUT I have two games I adore that are not yet Steam for Linux: Devil May Cry Series and Dark Souls I & II. One other thing holding me back is the fact when I boot my machine it displays the Fujitsu logo when it has Windows but without Windows there is nothing!
 
(that’s at least 3 games)
 
good thing day of defeat works for ubuntu
 
The other thing is I don't really know if Nvidia is really supported by Ubuntu for gaming the way it is nearly always bundled with Windows
 
2:40 PM
@corvid don't be so day of defeatist
@RonaldMunodawafa one way to find out
 
To test it
 
That's one way
I think it's stored in the Google
 
@RonaldMunodawafa Isn't there that Xorg thing? Games always run perfectly fine on my nvidia card, actually better than on windows
 
@corvid You mean those games that actually run on Linux?
 
2:43 PM
The issue of gaming is one of the main reasons I haven't moved to Linux/OS X permanently.
 
Valve are going full steam ahead to get as many as possible on Linux
 
I have like 10 games that run on linux, but I don't play many games. I don't get why games are developed for windows specifically, to begin with
 
market share
and DirectX
 
@corvid ...yeah I was going to say those things
 
Is DirectX any better than OpenGL? I feel like OpenGL gives far more advantages for long term
 
2:45 PM
That's why most cross-platform games ended up better on Xbox 360 in the last generation; the dev tools from Microsoft were much easier to use, so the 360 generally ended up as the lead platform
And they would later port to PS3
 
I find it hard to enjoy working with C on Windows. Visual Studio, while the best IDE for Windows and MSVC an excellent compiler and debugger for C++, it seems Microsoft does not want to support any C standard later than C89 as it will break C++ compatibility unless they fork the compiler. I also hate Cygwin. I feel left out whenever I want to compile something that compiled fine with GCC and with MSVC a lot of things have to be refactored.
DirectX > OpenGL for games
 
That and the moronic way the PS3's memory was split
 
Microsoft has enough cash to make sure it makes it simpler for game developers
 
PC > Console anyway.
 
user559633
Oh? How did they split memory? GPU and main heap?
 
2:46 PM
@corvid New innovations always come to DirectX pretty quickly, and very well made. Until OpenGL gets them, it takes quite a while for them to get a stable solution.
 
@tristan that sounds right
 
I think it is also because DirectX is not just a graphics API
It is so much more
The most probable equivalent of OpenGL would be Direct3D I think
 
@tristan whereas the 360 just let you do whatever, so games that needed a zillion objects but not so many effects (e.g. Skyrim) did much better
 
user559633
Microsoft did something worse for XBox One -- they wanted so badly to sell a camera feed for every customer to the NSA/GCHQ that they save a sizable chunk of memory/processing for the "Kinect", even if the came you write does not use it.
 
I'm 13th in the queue... yay me
I have the feeling I'm going to be 12th sometime tonight
(although that may be optimistic)
 
2:49 PM
@tristan from what I know it's the opposite now; PS4 has shared memory and Xbone has split. But I might be wrong because that does sound very stupid
 
But I have an XBox One at home which I can get DHLed here so WTH
 
Too broad; speed comparison is a big subject
 
umm.. what is an "effective user"? (particularly interested in the difference between os.getuid() and os.geteuid())
cbg(all)
 
@Ffisegydd check out PR
 
2:50 PM
The only reason I envy the PlayStation guys is because of God of War - the greatest video game ever created during my existence on earth
 
9th!
 
user559633
@RobertGrant no, that's my understanding as well. PS4 is better about freeing/staying out of heap, XBox has a bunch of always-on features for surveillance/microsoft-background-task-control-of-environment that take priority.
 
@tristan that is unsettling
 
user559633
I find it hilarious that if I typed that last sentence 10 years ago, I'd be trolling/acting like a crazy person, but it's reality now.
 
I hope that happens with things I say in 10 years .-.
 
2:51 PM
Some nice piano hold music though... I refuse to hold if it's pipe music (especially if it's piped greensleeves)
@tristan we still think you're a crazy person - but it's not trolling anymore :p
 
@tristan I'm not sure if it's all surveillance :) it has (at least) two OSs running at once, so you can instantly flick out of a game to the menu system and the game still runs in the main menu box, and I think it hibernates the game OS when it powers off, so it can instantly resume it
s/game/running app/
 
user559633
Always on camera/microphone meant to put in the central location of your home and microsoft admits to intentionally backdooring its communication software (skype, MSN, bing, etc) for the NSA? Hard to make the argument that it's insane to expect that governments can/do use the XBox One for surveillance.
 
user559633
@JonClements I believe that to be a fair assessment.
 
@PeterVaro Reading this question, it seems to have something to do with privilege escalation.
 
Sometimes I wonder what the financial impact of the NSA surveillance has done to the technology industries
 
2:53 PM
Well, if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about
 
@Chillar okay having a look now.
 
user559633
@RonaldMunodawafa Not sure if serious...
 
like now most people will be hesitant to buy anything with geolocation, always-active microphones and cameras, etc... just when those things were beginning to be technically viable
 
@Kevin right now I'm having a cigarette break -- but bb in 5 minutes and read the stuff
(thanks)
 
@RonaldMunodawafa I think that's "If you have nowhere to hide there's nothing you can do about it"
 
2:54 PM
unittests should try to be independent, yes? So you should define variables inside the test function, even if that means you're duplicating code?
 
Either way, the games are cool :)
 
But why would I want to hide. I am legally clean
 
user559633
@corvid I think most people are fine with it. People still use snapchat and reveal themselves to be general idiots when their "cloud services" leak data
 
user559633
@RonaldMunodawafa wait, you're serious?
 
2:55 PM
@Ffisegydd will change that
 
In particular I'm looking at github.com/sopython/nidaba/blob/dev/nidaba/core/test/…, where d is defined outside of the functions and used by all.
 
Enlighten me
 
@RonaldMunodawafa Just because you don’t have something illegal to hide, does this mean that you entrust everyone with all your personal information?
 
It makes sense to define d outside normally but I think for unittests it should be inside.
 
There is no way the NSA would steal my banking details or anyone's photographs which are very personal
 
2:55 PM
:D
 
@Ffisegydd I am worried about super
 
@Chillar okay, I'm gonna add it as a comment anyway just so there's a record of it
 
user559633
What business is it of a government what I do? Why should they get a live feed to where me and my girlfriend walk around and live?
 
@Chillar what about it?
 
@RonaldMunodawafa the government/police aren't infallible good guys, they are just people who can overstep boundaries etc. The more access you allow people, the more it can be abused
 
2:56 PM
It is to ensure American and world security
 
user559633
@RonaldMunodawafa ...photographs are within scope of this discussion.
 
@tristan is that meant to be sarcastic
 
Please...stahp...
 
user559633
@RonaldMunodawafa lol. right. because intrusion and creating distrust of the government among those intelligent enough to notice improves world security.
 
@Ffisegydd nvm
 
2:57 PM
The usual rebuttals to "I've got nothing to hide" are: "yes, but only for the time being. When a totalitarian government installs itself tomorrow and makes wearing green shirts illegal, will you be clean then?" and "What about your friends and family? Are they totally clean? Are you totally sure? Is it inconceivable that the government would threaten them with legal trouble in order to manipulate you?"
 
@tristan y... you saw those pictures?
 
@RonaldMunodawafa I don’t trust America to enforce “world security”
 
user559633
@RonaldMunodawafa No. iCloud/Facebook photos/contents of your computers' drives are accessible to governments. Then again, if you have nothing to hide, why would that bother you?
 
user559633
@poke I'm American and I agree.
 
Spying on other governments is just one big example of how their methods and ideas are wrong.
 
2:58 PM
@Ffisegydd done
 
user559633
Every government spies on each other.
 
Guys, he said he was being sarcastic
 
user559633
That's not just an American thing.
 
user559633
@RobertGrant I thought for only part of it.
 
@Chillar thanks, this is a fantastic start :D I'm at work at the moment so can't really do much with it, but later I will check it out, check for any PEP8 issues, add some bits myself, and then merge it to master.
 
user559633
3:00 PM
Anyway @corvid, this goes to your question of "what harm has surveillance done to the tech industry?" Answer: very little. People still willfully buy Microsoft products and put XBoxs in their homes.
 
@RobertGrant If you're referring to this, I interpreted it as "Tristan, are you being sarcastic?", not "I am being sarcastic"
 
If you decide to add anything else between now and then, then go for it, I'll comment on GH when I start to merge things (which is when you should stop as it might be lost)
 
@Kevin duh I know, I was being sarcastic
 
@Ffisegydd enjoy :d
 
Actually I wasn't
 
3:00 PM
@tristan for example I got an X Box because my Dad thought it was stupid that Sony was not secure enough
And he is a MS fanboy
 
user559633
Whoops. Sony is stupid about data storage, but generally leaves its users alone. Microsoft is the opposite.
 
user559633
How can you be a Microsoft fanboy in 2014?
 
@tristan much easier than in 2008
 
Unpopular opinion; I like that microsoft at least tries to be somewhat innovative now
 
user559633
Talk about voting against your own best interests.
 
3:02 PM
I like the patent that Microsoft filed, which shuts down your TV if too many people are watching it at once.
 
@corvid You are a good man
 
@corvid +1
 
@Kevin elaborate lol
 
@RonaldMunodawafa yes, highly
 
@Kevin And Apple’s patents are better, huh?
 
3:03 PM
FLAME ON
rbrb
 
If there is something I will thank Microsoft for is for competition in the Office space
 
user559633
That's okay, Microsoft will just wait until Linux does something and then claim they thought of it first and use their weight to make everyone share the lie.
 
wat.
 
The problem is more the patent system that allows such things…
 
@poke Hey, the "rectangle with round corners" patent is totally innovative.
 
3:04 PM
Yeah…
 
Btw I don't know if people are aware of Singularity OS
 
That's a totally novel combination of two shapes, which no one else had ever done before, ever.
 
It proved one thing: Windows is now legacy software
 
Rebuttal: no it isn't.
 
It has thousands of man-hours behind. NT is great. Win32 is great. .NET is very good. DirectX is unrivaled. But legacy Windows now needs to die
 
3:06 PM
wtf
 
If you check out what Microsoft's Research and Development is producing you will know Windows is a cap. I just hope the direction that the current CEO and his colleagues takes Microsoft to is along the lines of porting Windows Presentation Foundation and DirectX to Linux
 
user559633
O_o
 
o_O
 
O_O
 
I don’t even.
 
user559633
3:08 PM
Φ_Φ
 
µ_µ
 
Ь_Ь
 
user559633
◎_◉
 
==|:-I
 
user559633
3:09 PM
ʕु•̫͡•ʔु
 
@Kevin thanks again -- interesting.. the deep secrets of UNIX :)
 
No problem.
 
user559633
Top 5 Things Kernel Devs DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW
 
New topic. If Python was ice cream, what flavor would it be?
 
Spam & Eggs
 
user559633
3:11 PM
Ash
 
HALP: stackoverflow.com/a/27130111/3005188 that super call that is commented out is correct, no? I can't directly check using Py2 as I only have 3.
 
I love vanilla so it would be vanilla
 
It's multiple paradigm, so I think it would be Neapolitan.
 
user559633
It would be two flavors, when put together, would poison you.
 
research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=217236 Diagnosing New York City’s Noises with Ubiquitous Data
 
3:11 PM
@Ffisegydd Yes, but only for new style classes
 
user559633
@RonaldMunodawafa so what? That's not mind blowing or unique research
 
BAH. Yes. Thankyou.
 
if you don't inherit from object at some point, it will crash
 
The notification POST can be over HTTPS if you have an SSL certificate securing your website. If you
do not then the POST will just be HTTP, which means it will be plain text and not encrypted. The
problem with plain text POSTs is that a clever hacker could intercept the packets of information and
modify the response before sending it on to you (although we must stress this is a very complex and
 
I had this same problem just this morning. Tkinter grievance number one zillion: widgets are not new style classes.
 
user559633
3:12 PM
Oh yeah, @Kevin.
 
user559633
That bit me this weekend.
 
process). They could, for example, change a NOTAUTHED message to an OK message. To
counteract this, the notification POST has a VPSSignature field attached to sign the POST which is
an MD5 hash of the contents of the message
 
user559633
Related: do you have any boilerplate code for using a keyboard to scroll up/down a list of buttons?
 
like someone that can intercept, alter the data, wouludn't realise it's a md5 hash and just rehash the bloody thing anyway...
 
I know this is old but this was excellent IMO singularity.codeplex.com
 
3:13 PM
It doesn't usually bother me because I usually just do Frame.__init__(self, whatever) for subclasses of Frame, but I wanted to try to do it the right way for an answer of mine. But no, super doesn't work.
 
user559633
Whenever I use tkinter, I'm surprised it gets to stay in stdlib
 
@tristan nope. If you're interested in keyboard navigation in general, I'm pretty sure you can specify whatever Tab key navigation order you want
 
@tristan Someone really needs to rewrite it.
 
user559633
@Kevin I'm currently most of the way done on up/down arrow to scroll through a list of buttons.
 
user559633
@poke I totally agree with that. I'd volunteer, but I'm only smart enough to complain about how it's broken, not rewrite it in a few months of weekends.
 
3:16 PM
I think WPF and QT > Tkinter
 
The biggest problem is that it’s supposed to mimic the Tcl interface..
 
Let's leave everything as-is, except make pack and grid return the widget instance instead of None. That will cut traffic to the SO section by about 50%.
 
But it is likely I am wrong
 
@RonaldMunodawafa but also sizeof(WPF or QT) >>> sizeof(Tkinter)
 
user559633
3:17 PM
lol wpf, yam that.
 
@poke Yeah, it gives them a nice big shield to hide behind. "Yeah, it behaves weirdly, but blame those Tcl jerks, not us"
 
I like WPF and QT because of XAML and QML
They make me want to lick my screen
 
user559633
@Kevin yeah, pack/grid returning widget and then improve the image handling so it supports more than gif (and doesn't GC immediately)
 
At least they did a half assed integration with Pillow so it's not totally impossible to render non-gifs.
 
Another one http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/81154/helios.pdf Helios: Heterogeneous Multiprocessing with
Satellite Kernels
Why do people dislike GTK??? I think it is decent
 
user559633
3:22 PM
@Kevin Except that PIL/Image requires installing some non-trivial deps for deployment (IIRC)
 
Mmhmm, thus eliminating the usefulness of Tkinter in the first place (namely, that it works out of the box)
 
Umm... 10 can packs of 1664 for £9, or 3 packs for £20... that's a no brainer...
 
user559633
Yeah. And I "love" that tkinter works differently/supports different features on different OSes
 
Ooh, this is a sticky situation. I deleted a folder, and now when I try to restore it, it says "you need administrator access to perform this action". Really?
 
user559633
That's adorable.
 
3:25 PM
To bring back the dead was not meant for mere users!
 
DSM
.. wait, weren't we discussing Tk when I left? Tkinter-based cabbage for all!
 
We're on day 4 of "waiting for tech support to assign my ticket to somebody"
Working for BigCorp is so rewarding, you guys.
 
user559633
I work for a BigCorp now too, high5
 
@Tristan congrats
 
DSM
Working for SmallFirm isn't that different, except the tech support ticket is only a few words I scribbled to myself in my dollar-store notebook.
 
3:29 PM
@tristan Woah there cowboy. You need to fill out a TPS-ID-ten form in order to requisition that high five.
 
I want to leave my home country because the only work I get is across the border
 
user559633
:) I'm not sure group policy allows me to file that TPS-ID-ten.
 
There was a software house that I worked with but it was liquidated. Our market felt were too expensive. Five years later, I read the newspaper saying there is need for a company that does exactly what we were doing
 
user559633
Just because there's demand doesn't mean that the demand is realistic or that a business could survive in the space.
 
I feel sorry for the first company that offered voip when everyone was on dialup
bet they're looking at skype and thinking you yamming b*tards!
 
3:34 PM
hrmph, what kind of SD does the Raspberry Pi B+ require? The instructions seem to say a standard microSD, but that doesn't work
 
Hmm, thinking about how I should word my angry email to the IT point of contact...
Without sounding like a self-entitled windbag.
 
@Kevin In limerick form.
 
"Can't you see that my problems are so much more urgent than everyone else's?!?!"
But really, it sort of is urgent because I can't do my job
 
Should I download Utopic or i should download Trusty
 
Yes.
 
DSM
3:37 PM
If they thought that was a problem, they'd address it immediately. They haven't, which means they're okay with you taking a bit of a break.
 
Both.
 
But my boss is getting impatient with me because they aren't doing the needful.
 
DSM
Tell him to chill. Or mellow, depending on what half-remembered slang was in use when he was young.
 
user559633
@corvid microsd in an SD adapter works for me.
 
user559633
@Kevin "I realize this sounds trivial, but it's blocking me from doing work"
 
3:41 PM
Or should I download 15.04
 
Just send them that.
No one can get angry at pictures of cats.
 
@Kevin are we making "doing all the needful" a thing, because I'm totally on board
 
"Work Stoppage" was a category in our ticket system back when I was at a place big enough for a ticket system.
 
@Ffisegydd Hmm, there is an "attach files" option in the ticket system... You tempt me.
 
Honestly, can't you just bitch and moan to the most important person in the company you know? That sounds juvenile but sometimes it's the right thing to do.
 
3:47 PM
@Kevin do it. Sure, you might get fired, but it'll amuse the Python chatroom. Which one do you care about more?
 
mmmmmmmmmm
Not sure.
 
user559633
you can burn the stars for heat
 
DSM
I'm sure between all of us we could find you alternate employment in case of catastrophe. You'd probably have to move to a new country and learn a new language (either Canadian or British, most likely) but you're young, you can still adapt.
 
@tristan The whole point of stars when you think about it.
 
Leave your Zs at the border, we use Ss over here.
 
user559633
3:51 PM
Canadian is just American, but 10 years behind on cultural references.
 
That's fine. Most of my favorite media is over ten years old anyway.
(obligatory link: the Tom The Dancing Bug comic asserting that the golden age of film, music, and society in general is when you, the reader, were 13 years old)
(...I don't actually have the link. Sorry.)
 
DSM
Let's see, what year was I 13 in..
 
BRB my Ubuntu just finished downloading. Now time to kiss Windows goodbye
 
It is a SuperUser question; I linked to the duplicate there.
 
DSM
After some browsing, for me that rule works better for movies than it does music.
 
3:56 PM
@DSM 1971?
 
@DSM I was going to make a joke about how it would be hard to calculate because of the change in time systems that the greeks or romans or whoever made like 1900 years ago, but I couldn't remember the name of the event where they did so. And now the window of opportunity to make a snappy comeback has closed.
Basically you're old, is what I'm saying. (I don't even know if this it true)
 
# if you sung python 3x print(x[0])
seems quite poetic :)
 
DSM
1971 is an oddly specific guess for when I was 13. I'm wondering now if I said something which led to that conclusion.
 
I think it's the earliest year you can choose when Stack Overflow asks if you're 13.
 
DSM's closet love of Disco is revealed.
 
4:00 PM
@DSM nope - before appointment to the dark council, I make sure I have copies of birth certificates, driving licences and passports, names and addresses of family and friends, so if you chose to leave the order - I can guarantee you think twice about it :p
did you not read the small print?
@Martijn I have no idea what the split question is about... they've had enough time to clarify, so I'm vtc'ing
 
@JonClements It already had my vote on it.
 
I'd guessed that :)
 
user559633
I hope I never receive an email with the line "devops hugs" in it again
 
I just hope I never receive an email with the line "devops hugs"
 
user559633
tempted to quote the line and send back "can u not"
 
4:13 PM
send one back saying: "but where my kisses!?"
 
user559633
ugh no i do not want to fight fire with gas
 
just think of it as you're keeping the fire services' budget justified... you're doing your job as a citizen and all that...
 
user559633
vaultah/poison
 
4:31 PM
Oh, new AC/DC album is good
Oops, AC/DC's
 
I am now in Xubuntu (and my Windows is gone ) because I had it hanging somewhere so now I need to just to write a script to install everything Ubuntu default I don't have and purge everything Xubuntu I have that is not in Ubuntu except for Mousepad which I prefer to Geddit
 
DSM
There are days I wouldn't mind hugs.
 
@vaultah I didn't think the new AC/DC album was out yet? :P
 
I think David Bowie's album is more interesting
 
4:48 PM
@Ffisegydd I know, some music community on the social network managed to get all the tracks in a (relatively) good quality, probably via iTunes First Play..
 
Same user asked the same question earlier today.
 
I want to work for a company that values employee morale, and has a strong testing regiment. Hugs, not bugs.
 
user559633
High five on doubling down on the snark.
 
user559633
@Kevin lol, that's 4/5s of another stupid software manifesto
 
4:50 PM
I think we might need some code here that punishes duplicates from the same user
 
(btw, you're the pokemon)
 
user559633
(this was more funny in my head)
 
DSM
Why is everyone so anti-hug?
 
@tristan We pack a hundred programmers into a single open office. "Snug hugs and no bugs".
 
@Ronald you're assuming that SO doesn't already have such code.
 
user559633
4:52 PM
@DSM Because it's just some dumb group membership scam. Just because I work in the same industry as someone else, doesn't mean that I should be all ~~~~~*hugs*~~~~
 
@Ffisegydd does it automatically identify duplicates and punish without warning or informing the mods. The mods do a lot of work
 
@Ronald I don't know, it's not publicly available.
But SO does have a way of identifying similar questions, yes.
 
user559633
Maybe it's because I'm old, but when I read "cyber monday" I immediately feel a little uncomfortable.
 
:D
Every Monday is Cyber Monday in the Python room.
 
user559633
"Masturbating-with-a-stranger-over-the-internet Monday!"
 
user559633
4:54 PM
Not sure what this has to do with shopping and buying crappy dell products at a discount, but the marketing team seems to love it
 
Anyway, I was reading Joel Spolsky's blog today and I saw a parts of drafts of a book he was writing on UI
Has anyone read the book yet?
 
@tristan I wouldn't be surprised if at some point it was a prank played on the computer illiterate by immature techies. "What should we title this sale?" "how about cyber monday? snicker. teehee."
 
user559633
Agreed @Kevin.
 
Then of course, it sails over the heads of the normies, and it's printed on all the flyers and there's no going back
 
user559633
It's like when I used a base64 encoded thumbnail of goatse as a shared password for a year.
 
4:56 PM
haha.
 
You, sir, are my hero. (Also, kids: don't Google what tristan just mentioned)
 
:D
 
I try to keep off-color humor out of my systems, myself. I never want to have to say "My first pet's name? Uh... 'buttlord'" to the tech support guy.
 
butt is a valid value for stroke-linecap attribute in SVG
 
user559633
My approach will always be "I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
 

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