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5:02 PM
@SmokeDetector mod might want to step in; quite a few rude comments starting to come from the OP
 
Just stop interacting.
 
that ^
 
@QPaysTaxes auto-deletion due to obsceneties I guess
 
@QPaysTaxes congrats
I'm at 1234 right now \o/
 
1824 here
 
5:11 PM
√-1 here
 
@NathanOliver almost caught you!
 
5:24 PM
humility
 
effect Kruger-Dunning
 
not sure if there is one, but a closely related one would be imposter syndrome
but that's where you are just not bad but you think you are
not necessarily where you are good but think you're bad
the reason I doubt whether there is one is because generally being good at something precludes you from being ignorant of what makes someone good at it
at least somewhat
hmm
silo experience? I'm thinking some "isolation" related term
Hrm
quora.com/… <- might need to use browser tools to delete that annoying overlay and reenable scrolling
That answer on quora seems to indicate Dunning-kruger allows for both the popular understanding and the inverse
I guess something like Beneficent Anosognosia @QPaysTaxes
 
Good morning!
 
@QPaysTaxes yeah well here's where you make it popular :-)
No one knows who Dunning and Kruger are or what the effeect is unless they look it up
@QPaysTaxes talyarkoni.org/blog/2010/07/07/… Another source that says (to a lesser extent) that the DK effect also applies to people who are good and don't realize it
 
what happened to Jon? I haven't seen him here for a while
 
5:36 PM
@NobodyNada Jon who?
 
Clements
 
Skeet? Clements? H?
 
He went potty on the carpet. Had to put him in a time out ;)
 
@NobodyNada he's still around. He was in here yesterday
and on the site 20 minutes ago
 
His chat profile says he was last in here on Friday
 
5:38 PM
@QPaysTaxes This is the scientific paper for Dunning-Kruger; it also illustrates the phenomenon where competent people overestimate the abilities of others relative to themselves, e.g. a task that is simple to them must obviously be simple to others: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10626367
@NobodyNada he's a mod, he's probably busy :-)
 
5:53 PM
Should be the last one.
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by Undo
!!/report should be fixed now. Go ahead and use it, yell if it breaks again
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6:12 PM
@NobodyNada Everyone was already notified with a chat-message notification and a drop-down banner at the top of the room.
 
well, I'm glad that you are stealing our idea :)
 
@Makyen if they've registered
 
no, if they are in the room when it's about to start
you get an email if you register
 
I'm not. Mod flagging for theft.
 
6:40 PM
 
6:53 PM
Bad non-answer with same question that needs deleting.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels also put a delete vote on that answer
 
@NathanOliver: ditto!
I've done that!
 
@NobodyNada why am I getting a notice for this
 
@TylerH since you're in SOBotics?
 
6:57 PM
@TylerH you keep getting the message-curtain for weeks after you leave the room posting it. It actually deterred people from returning here when we still had them for the close events.
 
@NobodyNada I wasn't though
my last message was March 2nd and I prompted clicked the 'exit room' button after that...
 
Close this as no repro as the code needed is not included or just lacks mcve?
@BhargavRao Are you going to remove the feature from the chemistry burnation and status decline it?
 
I'm thinking of doing that, not sure. :/
 
OK. We can at least remove the feature?
 
Just a few secs, I'll do that once I reach home. I'm still traveling.
Sorry :(
 
7:11 PM
don't chat and drive BR
 
No problem. I was trolling meta and remembered to ask you.
 
afternoon
 
Anyone can figure out which element is being served on http in chat? I see a "mixed content" warning but no element jumps out
 
i'm not seeing anything
can't you go to the Network tab to show you what the problem is?
 
7:16 PM
@gunr2171 in cab, so I'm not driving :p
 
@Braiam I have log errors about the websockets
 
ah, so backseat moderation
 
Hmm. I'll disable my https everywhere and try to find it.
 
but no mixed content
 
In chrome's network tab, in the search box you can type mixed-content:displayed, that should show something
 
7:17 PM
@Braiam could be the link to academia.stackexchange.com that I posted
that's still http://
 
well, cleared the cache, refreshed the page, all elements in the domain column has a lock
 
classic
 
status-firefox-is-drunk?
 
status chat is still http?
so any link to a chat message or to a non-SO link will trip your warning?
 
Which version of Firefox are you using Braiam?
 
7:19 PM
apparently it only happens with POST request O_o
 
@NathanOliver IMO, no MCVE. The issue is in code that is not shown in the question (failing to initialize the AtomMutex prior to calling that function), thus no MCVE. Arguably, the error is that the function does not check that the AtomMutex is initialized.
 
@Makyen That's what I went with
 
This message triggered a POST request, for me.
 
@Tunaki I was going to update to 52 which came out today so I could play around with CSS Grids, but 52 also removes support for NPAPI plugins, which means Google Hangouts won't work. The problem with that is I need G Hangouts for my Stack Overflow interview next Tuesday
of course, maybe I'll just use Chrome for that... but they dropped support for NPAPI like a year ago...
 
I clicked to see my version, and it's auto-updating to 52 now
 
7:21 PM
@TylerH Good luck in your interview :)
 
Debian's 51.0.1
 
@Undo oh I just realized how that sounds; it's not a job interview X-D
it's... well, okay technically it's a jobs interview
along with docs
 
Say "hi" to Bugs Bunny for me :D
 
boooooo
 
@TylerH aww :(
UX testing?
 
7:27 PM
@TylerH You could just install an older version of Firefox in addition to running your main profile with the current version. I routinely have multiple versions of Firefox running at the same time (hmmm... only 4 at the moment).
 
@Undo I suppose
@Makyen I'm OK, I have 6 browsers installed on my computer so I can just use one of the other ones
 
RO: I'd like to request permission to post this description and this Google form link to get an idea of what bots are run on the network. Would that be allowed?
 
pin*
I think he meant :)
 
@QPaysTaxes, Ok, yes I did. I'm asking if I can post the actual text in here instead of linking to it in another room (for more visibility)
 
@Andy sure, go ahead
 
7:39 PM
A discussion in SOBotics brought up an idea of a unifying framework. I'd like to get an idea of what bots are out there. This will help us figure out what the framework would need to support. If you could fill it out once for each bot, that'd be cool and send it to other bot owners would be helpful too. I appreciate your time. Form
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@QPaysTaxes The effect refers to people who miscalculate their own competency with regard to others; the overwhelming majority of cases for this is where people overestimate their competency, but it also includes the minority of cases where competent people underestimate their own skill level
@Andy you should write the framework in Haskell :-)
 
@TylerH Never used it. I am vaguely aware of the name of the language and that's it.
What's it good at?
 
Making SO audits
 
@Andy Looking pretty and ensuring no one will ever use it.
It's intended, i think, as an elegant alternative to R
 
@TylerH heh.
 
7:50 PM
It's actually such a common question that someone eventually asked about it on SO
328
Q: What is Haskell actually useful for?

Sergio TapiaFor instance, if I start learning Haskell, what can I find myself using it for. What are some common uses for this language that I hear is a functional one?

@QPaysTaxes They can be ignorant of the broader official definition of the effect, that's fine
but that doesn't change the fact that the people who came up with the thing defined as something
so if you're only going to reference the "someth" part of something, that's fine. but you can't say the "ing" is not also part of it
The appropriate thing to do in the case of them not being aware of the full definition is to educate them
 
@FireAlarm sounds like TB
 
8:06 PM
Stats at the end of [feature]ing: Q: 68/18, A1: 38/31 - community disagreed, A2: 85/19 - comm agreed, A3: 17/5 - comm agreed, A4: 30/-4 - comm agreed A5: 6/-12 - comm disagreed. (remaining 2 had < 5 votes). A tough one here, but concentrating on the two poles - A2 said not to burn and got +62/-12. A4 said to burn and got +30/-4. As A2 is more than twice A1, the request is declined — Bhargav Rao ♦ 1 min ago
 
Cool. Thanks
 
So yeah, the first [featured] request to be declined
 
new mod causing problems already ;)
 
I'm happy you didn't post the whole wall of text then ...
 
@QPaysTaxes nah, I intentionally use words to mean what they mean. If you haven't studied a psychological effect, it should be expected that you only know the layman definition or interpretation of it
like newton's laws or einstein's theories
they are more or less true when taught to 3rd graders
but they're not technically accurate
as you learn when you actually study those things. the real definition is more complex/broad
and it's fine if you go your whole life thinking that the 3rd grade definition is the real thing (so long as you aren't like, a rocket scientist)
all I'm saying is that you shouldn't go around saying "that's wrong" when someone shows you the whole definition or theory that has more info/detail
because it's not just a "living word" like 'literally' which now can mean 'not literally'; it's a measured, strict construct in a science (medicine - psychology)
 
8:21 PM
wall of text alert
 
@Tunaki that triggered my still-open developer window to highlight the chat container
do it again
or not...
 
@rene Looks like the burnination process is not clear meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/324070/… ... It does not provide guidance as to what should be done when the request is declined
 
@BhargavRao nicely handled
@BhargavRao close all anyway?
 
@PetterFriberg thanks to Shog. :)
 
@BhargavRao It's true we didn't think of that. I would just suggest: edit out the parts that were added... and that's it? Maybe put back the old title if it had one.
 
8:27 PM
@Tunaki what I did for [chemistry] was all Shog's advice. So that might be one way
 
There's no need to write up an answer since there should already be one stating why the tag should not be burned
 
Time for me to leave as well, Forgot to have dinner.
 
@BhargavRao it is clearly there .... hides
 
@QPaysTaxes always listen to the temptations
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels ?
 
8:34 PM
@rene Thanks! :)
 
yw
 
@PetterFriberg Indeed, and number 2
 
oh god, it's attracting answers
 
8:37 PM
@rene not sure if required, but you can add chemistry as an example of a declined burn req.
 
yep
 
You can image search the earth by satellite now: techcrunch.com/2017/03/07/…
@SmokeDetector They are starting to move into spam territory. Left a comment.
 
9:20 PM
afk
 
 
1 hour later…
10:34 PM
this room sure got down to business!
 
10:59 PM
@QPaysTaxes Bah. Read the deleted junk answer
 
@Machavity don't judge a q by its answer
 
@JanDvorak The user made a Q and A. The A is just repeated words. It threw me
 
my theory is that the user just got mad from not getting answered
 
11:33 PM
Check Haskell's arrays
If you don't need random writes, an ordinary linked list will do
How about a linked list with a reference counting GC?
Just have a second head with the same tail
and, if you don't want to make your own GC, there is std::shared_ptr
@QPaysTaxes don't overwrite nodes. When you pop, just forget the head once and have the head be the head's tail.
the nodes themselves will be immutable except for their ref counts
Haskell does the same
@QPaysTaxes yes. Assuming that node_free actually means "if the ref counter is now zero"
Maybe call it decrease_ref_count ?
free_once?
Fine then
 
11:57 PM
@QPaysTaxes Yeah. Deleted
10kers, would this be considered plagiarism? It's exactly the top answer just has attribution
 
Really, really should be in quote markup
But I probably couldn't suspend them for that.
 
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