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7:01 PM
Interesting that Smokey did not catch that
Maybe we should ask Undo to include ......................................
 
@BhargavRao already works
 
!!/test ........................something
 
> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.
 
Nope @tuna, It doesn't ---^
 
hmm
 
7:03 PM
@BhargavRao the post had exactly 9 unique characters (dot, n, u, c, k, o, l, s, and an exclamation mark). i guess that doesn't count as "few"
what if we broadened the definition of "few"?
 
!!/test ........................................
 
Yeah, But isn't too many dots also a valid indicator?
Hmm, Fine. Let's see if that re occurs, we'll catch it and report it to Smokey and inform Undo.
 
hold on, how did it not get caught as "repeating characters"?
 
@dorukayhan a third of the alphabet is plausible in a short post. I think we're set at 6 or 7 at the moment
 
perhaps we outran Smokey
 
7:04 PM
!!/test aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
oh, so this "repeating characters" thing only works for letters
 
@Tunaki Smokey is too slow for hoomans
 
!!/coffee
 
@dorukayhan brews coffee for @dorukayhan
 
hands the coffee back to smokey please drink this
@BhargavRao not anymore
 
@Tunaki I guess that's the most plausible reason. Natobot reported it 5 secs after it was posted and I reported it here within 5 secs. So, I guess we can move on. (Perhaps @ArtOfCode can check if it would have been caught or not)
 
7:07 PM
!!/queuestatus
 
that's lenghty :)
 
looks like 0 queued on SO, IIRC, so a request just went out
which presumably would have caught it if it hadn't already been reported
 
So yeah, we were too fast for Smokey.
 
reading again, they're just quoting another answer and asking a question about it
 
@Tunaki So it is a NAA? I'm also unsure bout that. (Perhaps a 20k delv?)
 
7:12 PM
@BhargavRao alright
 
> You can only flag for moderator attention 100 times a day
:(
 
The usual :)
 
Yeah, But a bit early today.
 
user4639281
that is an answer, just a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really bad one
 
that's n
thanking other answer
 
7:16 PM
@TinyGiant that is thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks as an answer
 
user4639281
It could be interpretted that way, but it looks like an attempted solution
 
NAA
 
check the comments
@BhargavRao sigh. I already rejected an edit on that one.
First post and then Late Answer. Both suggested edits =/
 
NAA
 
7:23 PM
That is more than this one
 
T Hanks
 
user4639281
There's actually an SE user with the name Thanks In Advantage?
 
@TinyGiant yes
 
Yeah, Did not want to link the user and anger the fish
 
I should change my name to can I haz answr?
 
7:27 PM
@NathanOliver lol
once again "Thanks in advanced" has over 5k questions
 
user4639281
@ColdFire question edited, still too broad?
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver I'm having a hard time not changing my user name to Gimme Teh Codez
 
@TinyGiant checking...
 
@TinyGiant Fast*
 
7:30 PM
@TinyGiant That one would be good too
 
user4639281
lulz
 
@NathanOliver Reminds me of this
 
@Machavity nice
 
7:31 PM
@NisseEngström 😢
 
user4639281
We had an epidemic of Tanks in advance a while back that me and mogsdad ran through and edited, looks like the tanks are back
 
user4639281
@ColdFire New answer looks pretty LQ
 
You could say they have advanced?
 
user4639281
lulz
 
ho ho ho ho
 
7:33 PM
Hey someone has to fill in for gunr
 
Need a shark with laser beams?
 
But blue laser beam please
Green and red are overrated.
 
@Machavity Could use on of these.
 
Why would you want that? I want the lasers to do things
 
7:36 PM
@NathanOliver Well, there's plenty of us lurking in the tank.
 
@NathanOliver Like cut people in half?
 
@QPaysTaxes You have a typo there. Think you meant ultraviolent
 
@Tunaki Well yeah. Don't sharks deserve a warm, bite sized meal?
 
@Tunaki Blue is of higher energy, agreed.
 
@NisseEngström Indeed
 
7:37 PM
@NathanOliver I expect you to die.
 
@Tunaki is there a canonical for illegalargumentexception?
 
@TinyGiant yeah and bad english
sorry my internet was just busted by a tank
 
@TinyGiant question is ok now but op is mixing client and server side code
 
7:44 PM
o/
 
o/\
 
@ColdFire Your arm looks broken. You OK?
 
@ColdFire The moment was right. You weren't ready
 
@Tuna what would it take to auto flag?
 
7:47 PM
Missed the train... Shall we start again?
RIP @ColdFire
 
@PraveenKumar had to just dupe hammer to one of yours (you full stacker you)
 
@PetterFriberg auto flag?
 
Too broad? They just want an algo/method to solve, no actual code.
 
@Tunaki Yeah these darn NAA is wearing me out, at least just send tp to bot and get a comment and flag... I'm ready to ask Brad if ok...
What would it take?, a lot of dev?
 
@NathanOliver yes because there are infinite ways to solve any given problem using code (in theory)
 
7:57 PM
@Drew Well, you know, he can't always get it right, being a famous cricket player
 
@NathanOliver To me yes.
 
He blew his knew out. He doesn't talk about it much
 
23.900 results wow @PraveenKumar
 
@PetterFriberg Eee
 
8:01 PM
cya
 
Thanks guys
o/
 
@TGMCians \o
 
So the new MacBooks won't have a number of standard keys anymore. Exiting vim just got harder
 
What keys are the getting rid of?
 
8:08 PM
All the F keys and Esc
 
Do they get rid of the actual f key as well?
 
Yeah, To reduce people from swearing online.
 
@JanDvorak i I would know I would tell you. :p
 
Don't worry, tho. You can always buy the dongle
 
8:10 PM
> I didn't speak when they got rid of the audio jacks, because I wasn't an audio jack.
> I didn't speak when they got rid of the escape keys, because I wasn't an escape key.
 
Soon they'll remove all the keys and introduce jacks for all. Buy a spacebar for only 99$.
 
don't forget $1000 for a couple keyboard-jack splitters
 
You will also need a dongle if you want any foreign keys
 
And yet they won't support the Dvorak keyboard layout somehow.
 
8:15 PM
Imagine a bunch of keys dropping down from wires. Where did the F key go, Oh it's here.
 
Hory Sheet. 830 LQPQ posts.
 
And those are just the ones we know about ;)
 
8:21 PM
@PetterFriberg Does not look like one
afk
 
Laterz
And also Cya all. Time for me to sleep.
 
I no nothing about linux... so need someone that can evaluate it correctly..
@BhargavRao Cya
wow ninja puppy...
 
@PetterFriberg Jon'd
Yeah, He's our silent guardian
 
Either a duplicate answer with output or a question to that answer
 
user4639281
8:40 PM
@ColdFire retracted close vote
 
Hello!
 
o/
 
@Shadow close candidates at cv4, prevailing reasons 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis sooner or later you will give me some 10K stuff :D
 
Is it abuse/fraud if I ramp up another account in really fast
so I can double delete?
 
8:51 PM
I want to get a Java gold only answering NPE and how to compare Strings.
I am sure I could do it.
 
one or two weeks should get you there
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis The usual time scheme proposed is 6-8 weeks ;)
 
back
 
What if I guarantee it? @πάνταῥεῖ
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis You can't
@NathanOliver forward
 
8:59 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis @Tunaki keep or kill? stackoverflow.com/q/40205786
 
Well, it is possible. And, given enough dedication, it is pretty easy to do it. Just need to answer everything that is posted. You don't need to be correct. Just answer something that looks right.
 
@Drew Oh yeah, way too broad
 
@Drew too broad
there are whole books about that =/
 
ougtta get cat man in here to del vote
 
baah spent all my delete votes
 
9:01 PM
@Drew no need ...
 
flower power
 
@Drew Let's email regarding further clarifications (just between us two)
 
You will have to undergo a grueling interview
 
I'd hope you'd know something is wrong when you write "your question isn't exactly clear" in an answer.
 
they ought to hard code that as line 1 when everyone starts any answer
 
9:04 PM
:)
 
despite System.out.println("Thanks for using this program!");
 
I prefered the System.out.println("Happy birthday you dork! :p"). chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/33721091#33721091
 
I was kidding
 
@Closey alive
 
9:12 PM
@NathanOliver Still here you guys!
 
You're lying.
 
@Closey my stats
 
@rene You've reviewed 0 posts today.
 
sure ...
I feel ignored
 
that's the intended behaviour
 
9:15 PM
Let's see how Closey handles being kicked ...
 
She might put everything on fire in the process.
 
@rene Doesn't that run the drop DB command?
 
yeah, it does but don't tell Gunr ...
 
@Drew :)
@Drew You almost never address here. Is that a plan I don't understand? Or are you just lazy?
 
9:27 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I am shy
 
@Drew C'mon ;) I don't actually believe that
 
@Drew I am a flower
 
@Drew Hey shy
I need the Maven gold!!! I have lots of posts to dupe close to some answers I wrote
 
@rene You're a kind of debacle when pinging a post. While I don't deny that, it's completely different (and useful in most cases)
 
9:32 PM
?
 
@rene Nightshades are deadly :P
 
sure
 
so there is a nuked answer with the exact same link
 
@Drew I'd like to see some structured communication, within a certain context.
 
Hmmmm. How about deleting the whole thing, eh?
 
9:38 PM
@rene So you unblurred that now?;)
 
That last SD report is deleteable
 
> You've reached the maximum of 30 Deletion votes per day; come back in 2 hours
@NathanOliver Are you deletable too?
 
Nope. I'm in read only memory
 
:D
 
@rene Belladonna wasn't that bad, but left me incredibly thirsty :P
 
Hello o/
 
Hi @Baum
@NathanOliver afk Hehe, quickly apply all of the mean jokes you ever wanted to apply at NO ;)
 
10:01 PM
2 down
 
@NathanOliver I prefer the spanish inquisition mode ;)
 
10:14 PM
night fellows
 
Rob
Morning
 
night, @Tunaki
 
10:36 PM
@Drew Which one mate?
@PetterFriberg What's that?
 
@PraveenKumar this one stackoverflow.com/a/30779450
 
@Drew Saw it. Thanksl.
 
user4639281
I think YCS has some kind of script looking for try...catch blocks on PHP questions and answers
 
user4639281
10:52 PM
@Tunaki JavaScript thinks that everything is an object
 
11:10 PM
@TinyGiant for what?
are try-catches deprecated in php?
 
user4639281
@dorukayhan Honey pots, try...catch blocks in most languages generally denote bad code
 
the lack of them may suggest bad code
How to divide by 3 stackoverflow.com/q/40282978
 
@TinyGiant Huh? That is the common way for error handling in languages supporting exceptions.
 
user4639281
11:25 PM
@Olaf Just because something is common does not mean it is correct. Generally when an exception is thrown, it is because you didn't do something correctly. In many cases it is perfectly acceptable to use try...catch blocks, in the vast majority of it's uses, it is not correct.
 
user4639281
There are many people who choose to wrap their entire program in a try...catch block, then do something silly like not report the exception. In many languages, uncaught exceptions will be handled in a uniform manner.
 
If you say so TG. Even though you don't program in java, c#, or PHP
 
user4639281
Well, I do program in PHP, haven't done anything in Java or C# so I can't say much about that, but at least in JavaScript and PHP there are usually much better ways of going about things than wrapping your whole program in a try catch block and shipping it.
 
Who said to do that. Exceptions give you granular handling. But I guess we should just not have that
 
@TinyGiant Erm.. it might be nasty, but sometimes programs have to deal with external input (in whatever way, which includes memory allocation). If that does not follow the expected pattern, throwing exceptions is the way to go. Not catching such exceptions where appropriate is better design practice?? Hmm, how do you deal with such faults then?
 
11:37 PM
with the Don't Worry Be Happy method
 
@TinyGiant Of course you have to handle exceptions caught. Someone just silencing them should be punished with Word document, not less than ... well I had that already...
 
user4639281
Like I said, there are many acceptable uses of try...catch blocks. It is also extremely common to abuse try catch blocks, hence having a script to search for them is a useful way to find bad code, intermingled with good code
 
abuse, like this:
public bool IsInt(string value)
{
	try
	{
		var i = int.Parse(value);
		return true;
	}
	catch
	{
		return false;
	}
}

public bool IsInt(string value)
{
	int i;
	return int.TryParse(value, out i);
}
 
user4639281
^^^ Like that
 
@TinyGiant Sounds like the same approach like pulling out all cars, because there are idi**ts driving like dumbo on MDMA.
 
11:41 PM
idiot drivers, you've clearly never been to Massachusetts
being an idiot driver there is a way of life
 
@gunr2171: Oh, Germancities, Kuala-Lumpur and Rijad were enough driving for me. Massachusetts can't be much worse.
 
user4639281
@Olaf Not really, a better comparison would be if we were to say that the vast majority of drivers swerving are driving drunk, then we should pull over all swerving drivers to make sure they aren't drunk.
 
@gunr2171 I prefer Los Santos actually.
 
user4639281
Except in this case, there is the option to do nothing at all.
 
so we have this instead. Are we suggesting to not even use that?
and let the app crash?
 
11:44 PM
@gunr2171 Not sure what TryParse is. In Python duck-typing is prefered.
 
see drew's link
it's a way of parsing a string into an integer, but it won't throw an exception if it can't be parsed. it will return true or false if it can be parsed
> The TryParse method is like the Parse method, except the TryParse method does not throw an exception if the conversion fails. It eliminates the need to use exception handling to test for a FormatException in the event that s is invalid and cannot be successfully parsed.
 
@gunr2171 Ok, looks much like What I ca. 25 years ago wrote in Modula for my own meta-compiler.
 
@gunr2171 So yes, if you can find a better alternative to run something without relying on exception handling, do it.
 
At least half of the PHP questions I help to debug are easily resolved thru exception handling. And are caused by the lack of it by the op
 
I didn't learn that much about PHP, but I always hated that everything I did had "or die" appended, and that was the extent of errors.
 
11:49 PM
But that is for non-production code
 
don't tell the me from 5 years ago that
 
Ok, In Python, I'd just return None on failure and the caller can check for it. That is fine, as long as you are sure the failure will be handled by the caller directly. But then, there are things the caller can't handle and error-handling that way will be like in C: check at every stage and pass back as result.
In Python for instance, Exceptions not only signal problems, but e.g. also end of iteration (see for loop and iterators in Python). I'd say it is also a matter of the language.
You can missuse every language construct. See driving/cars.
 
user4639281
Yes you can misuse anything in a language, however the point here is that try...catch blocks are very often misused, and thus make a good honey pot
 
Rob
Python throws an exception when it finishes iterating a collection?
 
@Rob: Yes. That's because any return value can be a valid element otherwise.
Remember Python is strongly, dynamically typed!
 
user4639281
11:56 PM
I'm not saying don't ever use try...catch blocks. I'm saying that try...catch blocks are very often misused searching for them can help find users giving bad advice, or questions where the op is misusing try...catch blocks. For every result of said search there is an option to do nothing at all and move on.
 
Ruby has raise..except, which is meant for exceptions, and try..catch, which is meant for normal flow control
 
@TinyGiant Hmm, I thought we don't hunt users, but postings ... :-) Anyway, I don't mind much; it just would be good to have some metrics lateron about false positives/negatives.
 
Rob
@Olaf Well, yeah, but that's still not really an issue. You can happily iterate IEnumerable<object> in C#, for example - where any return value can be a valid element
It's just an alternative to checking enumerator.HasNext() each time, I suppose
 
foobar = catch :found do
  foos.each |foo|
    bars.each |bar|
      throw :found, [foo, bar] if f(foo, bar)
    end
  end
end
 

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