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9:01 PM
#5 in there is a pre-requisite to delete the dupe target
 
I'm out of delete votes b/c I'm a noob
 
I still got one : )
 
Does the list of old answers to clean up need to be code-formatted? I don't have 10k so I can't help delete, but it seems to me like it would be much more convenient to be able to click on links instead of having to copy-paste.
 
@NobodyNada Open to enhancements
 
@JAL Good to know, I wasn't aware of this. Most I met so far needed just 3
 
9:04 PM
@Tunaki Ok, I'll write a quick script to make links.
 
I don't have a better idea that does not clutter up the answer
 
At least I get more in 2 hours
 
Someone tell me: am I trying to chat with a jaded formerly-brilliant SO user?
 
@AndrewMorton I... how can we tell that?
 
@Tunaki oh yeah, the answer will be huge that way
 
9:04 PM
Yeah that's the issue
 
@AndrewMorton What do you want to know?
Should I rather register with queen in the SOCVFinder room. Is anyone annoyed?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm not.
Is there an issue?
@AndrewMorton I don't understand the question.
 
@Tunaki Not really, I just wanted to know.
 
@TylerH Just a simple 0 or 1 would suffice. @πάνταῥεῖ I noticed someone with a rep of >10K had not participated in SO since 2015. I'm aware of the frustration factor involved in seeing too many low-quality questions - I can only do a few reviews every other week or so without getting exasperated.
 
@Tunaki They probably want to know why some people look that jaded so much, and deny answering at all.
@AndrewMorton Just use your down and close votes. Don't try to answer everything.
^^ That was frickin' bad :(
 
9:12 PM
Anyone know why my avatar is not changing? I know , its wierd having a rainbow avatar as Ultron (A Dark Villan Bot). And i have never even seen this avatar before. Idk why a rainbow is apearing as my avatar
 
user4639281
@AndrewMorton Have you seen how many of my most recent answers are to now closed questions? My issue is not with low quality questions, my issue is with the inability to allow okay quality questions. 90% of my best answers are to questions that could probably be closed as too broad.
 
user4639281
What is the point of contributing if everything is off-topic?
 
@Ultron Hello! Is it only in chat? It takes a while before changing in chat, up to 1 hour.
 
@Ultron chat is on a different subdomain from Q&A
it will take aw hile
it's already changed on the main website
 
@TinyGiant OMG, don't mention that in this room :)
 
9:14 PM
Oh okay. Thanks Guys :) . I Hope you guys are welcoming to a Bot :)
 
I preferred the rainbow
 
We're all bots here, don't worry.
:)
 
right when a mod enters the room, nice move, Tuna... nice move....
 
9:17 PM
I'm sleepy so you'll probably get away with it
 
I have a unicorn bot. Does that help?
 
Wheeew
 
[Chat override]: For sure we are.
 
@AndrewMorton As long it doesn't start to fart rainbows all over probably yes.
 
Hello @Jarvis!
 
9:18 PM
[Chat override]: Well hello there humble human.
 
Excuse my bot. He gets too free sometimes. Time to sleep Jarvis.
 
wait what?
 
Yeah
 
Let's say Hiya \o @AndrewMorton
 
I'm 1 click away from kicking both @Slayther and @Jarvis. Bots are now allowed to run here without permission. Can I have an explanation?
 
9:22 PM
No.
 
Time for the turing test : )
 
@PetterFriberg are you Turing?
 
I request the permission to keep posting here.
 
(PS: Sweden-Finland is at 1-0 atm @PetterFriberg)
 
Are those your bots @Jan?
 
9:23 PM
@Adriaan Sorry could not interpret command
 
No.
 
@Adriaan You don't need to be him, you'll need to know a good test method, that's all
 
@Adriaan \o/
 
fair enough, no explanation
 
Did they fail the Turing test?
 
9:24 PM
Who?
Oh.
 
@PetterFriberg As mentioned wait until the rainbow farts :P
 
Hey, don't call him "the rainbow".
 
@AndrewMorton Help
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Sorry, I don't understand "\o". I may be too out-of-touch with the youth of today.
 
@AndrewMorton o/
 
9:26 PM
@AndrewMorton you poor old people who have too much arthritis to get their hand up.
 
@AndrewMorton You passed the turing test IMO. It merely means High Five, Hi, Welcome
@AndrewMorton You're an ole fart like me? I'm 52 atm
 
Kids these days, easily fooled to think someone is a human
What is Smokey's peak uptime, BTW? Mine's around 40 hours.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I wouldn't go that far. I suspect I'd be flummoxed by many Turing tests. I've recently breached the half-century. Ah well, they say you're only as old as the woman you feel... (NSFW).
 
@TinyGiant this one wasn't too broad. Poor guy got no answer stackoverflow.com/questions/39335729 :p And that was the first one I looked at from the Sept 6 block. Guess what? You are one of us.
 
@AndrewMorton I have heard that if you're 50 and you feel like a 20, you've lost 30 years of your life somewhere
 
9:31 PM
@JanDvorak Oh to be 20 and know all that I do at 50...
 
I know what I'll do when I'm 20 again
 
@JanDvorak As in the longest we've run it between deploys, between reboots... ?
 
@AndrewMorton I think my testosterone overruled my inner women when I was 5 or 6 or so. But its still there, I can't deny :)
 
@undo without downtime or reboots
or anything
 
@JanDvorak yeah, I suspect that's on the order of a month or two
Don't keep records on that, and deploys are far more often, but a month or two sounds right
 
9:36 PM
Deploy counts as downtime, too
 
That's because undo tripped on the cable while searching for treats, otherwise it'd have lasted more.
 
@JanDvorak ehhhh, not sure I'd agree there. 10-20s isn't all that bad.
 
I meant software downtime, not that of the underlying OS
 
I could make a decent argument that nocrash is still running, so Smokey is still running
 
10-20 seconds is an eternity these days
 
9:37 PM
@AndrewMorton Nosing in your profile you're a Microsoft tech guy, are you?
@JanDvorak Not as boot time for an embedded linux on an old SAM G45 :( (our current platform MCU)
 
user4639281
@Drew Upon further review, it seems I reviewed that incorrectly, though I do not see your reopen vote.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ No. I'm the programmer in a three-person company. Unless by "Microsoft tech-guy" you mean someone who only works with MS software, which isn't the case.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ That's a dangling participle we have right here.
@πάνταῥεῖ I don't turn off my computer, and it takes about 3 seconds max to wake from sleep
 
@TinyGiant Before saying what you do and don't do (and Lord knows I have no intention of reviewing the reviews), keep in mind you probably do exactly what we do all the time
 
@Drew make mistakes?
 
9:42 PM
@JanDvorak Do you have something like a BBC Micro that goes "beep" and it's on?
 
user4639281
@Drew I don't vote to close questions as typo if they don't contain a typo
 
@AndrewMorton nah, just an X556U
 
@AndrewMorton High speed FPGA SoC systems react like so :)
 
SoC = same old ... something?
ah, system on chip
 
9:45 PM
> I like the retro design of that
>
> It wasn't retro back then
 
@PetterFriberg 2-0 win :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ @JanDvorak Well, that's disappointing - how do you get time to prepare cornflakes in the morning?
 
I prefer to chew them dry
 
@AndrewMorton LOL
 
@Adriaan \o/, even more important then to beat the russians
 
9:46 PM
is this a partial lib request
 
TBH at home I'm using a quite lame Acer Laptop
 
@PetterFriberg yup :) I'm interested in their game against Team North-America (USA/CAN players under-23)
 
Takes ages to boot ...
 
Phew, hockey. For a split second I thought you were talking about the Cold War 2.
@AndrewL. either that or 2b
 
with that gorgeous result I'm off for a blissful nap.
 
9:47 PM
@Adriaan gn
 
night
 
Bye!
 
Looks like we're all off to sleep now. Goooood moooooorning USA!
 
am in USA. is not morning
 
Maybe you're living in two different realities?
 
9:51 PM
I've long suspected that.
 
A.M. : ante meridian: morning.
 
@AndrewMorton Wasn't that famous "Goooood moooooorning Vietnam!"?
We need to prepare for the yearly crap questions battle right now.
 
What battle is that?
 
<< Sticks some napalm grenades to the belt
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes, prepare with sleep. Good night all.
 
9:53 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Wait, you don't always have them?
 
must.. resist... racist joke..
 
@Tunaki I need more it seems between Okt till Feb
@JanDvorak Better so
 
yes ^
 
@Tunaki I was banned last year for a month because of getting too snarky / offensive. It really needs some nerves to stand all the shit shoveling.
 
9:58 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ link?
 
I'm prepared with some weed and beer to keep me as calm as possible :)
@JanDvorak How can I link a ban dude?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Well, I hoped it was overall helpful then. I'd prefer you not serve as base-line for Queen ;)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ was there a discussion upcoming to the ban?
It's unfortunate the only way to survive in this world is to get stoned
 
@JanDvorak Small one in some comments only.
 
that were purged, I guess
 
10:00 PM
to which I don't think linking here is a good idea
 
roger that
 
@JanDvorak No, that's normal
@JanDvorak I think so
 
But, God says that getting addicted to alcohol is big no-no.
 
At least I resorted to Code Review, and gained some rep there :)
@JanDvorak Who's god to tell me?
 
He's got the power to give you a lifetime ban from Stack Exchange
Also, about that "lifetime"...
 
10:07 PM
^Interesting beliefs
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Technically, the answer fits in 1 word :)
Not to "How is the working flow ?" though
 
@Tunaki is it "yes" or "no"?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis - As an FYI, those questions you keep seeing about finding things in an array starting with "A" are all the result of a single class from a university. I've been in contact with their department head and they're tracking down the professor in charge of the class.
4
 
@BradLarson Someone responded to you? Maybe their teacher told them to ask on SO for help...???
 
10:16 PM
@Tunaki You probably mean the heat detection? No, I'm managing to improve about this certainly.
 
@BradLarson I'll stop commenting, just flagging if they are as terrible as they've been.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis That's what they're trying to find out. Not the first time I've had a conversation with professors about their classes, and they tend to come down on them pretty hard once they find out who started something like this.
 
@BradLarson The professors seem to be much part of the culprit, yes. But there seems to be a universe of stubbornness to be explored.
 
@BradLarson How do you know where these questions originate?
As in school
 
@AndrewL. You recognize the patterns, that simple.
 
10:21 PM
You can also guess what kind of information moderators might have access to.
 
Ahh, so you actually coordinate with authorities at schools to stop those kinds of questions?
o_o
 
^I hope they do
 
That would be nice
 
I couldn't tell the professor the names of these students, as that would violate the privacy agreement, but once I know the source it's easy to hand them one or more of these questions for them to match against their assignments.
 
10:23 PM
Wow. That's great
 
Would it be against the privacy agreement to hand out the usernames if their owners get deleted / dissociated?
 
Sometimes the students make it pretty easy by copying and pasting the professor's email or the course number as part of the pasted homework assignment.
 
sweet
 
That's... kind of appalling
 
My favorite was the copied and pasted homework assignment that also included the school's anti-cheating honor code as part of the pasted text.
14
 
10:25 PM
LOL
 
Sometimes you see questions when only the first "you" has been changed to "I", or with hints left in
 
lol :P
 
Do you have a link?
 
@BradLarson Along with a certain IP address or such, that's a good starting point to contact someone official at a particular university
 
A school I went to gave a -300% for any discovered plagarism and kick you out of the class if you violated the honor code
lol
 
10:28 PM
Several university courses now start with screenshots of Stack Overflow questions we've handed them, to hit home the point that professors will find them here if they try to cheat.
 
Are there still people who answer blatant homework?
 
Good on them @BradLarson
 
@BradLarson You mods have to take a high burden. A single message could ruin a poor, unconscious students' life forever.
 
There was also a professor commenting under all answer, I had to flag him to : )
 
@JanDvorak Of course there are. The more rep the more likely.
 
10:30 PM
A rep revamp would be nice
 
What do you mean @JanDvorak?
 
remove the incentive from answering crap
 
They need to make downvotes take more away IMO. -2 for questions and answers seems a bit soft
 
@QPaysTaxes She never said ruining the student's life was a bad thing ;-)
 
@JanDvorak Helping help vampires costs you? That's what downvotes of responsible users are for.
 
10:31 PM
Sorry if I intrude. I've come across the 500-old-terse-answer cleanup meta topic and found a troublesome answer. Is this where I should bring it to attention, or am I lost in the woods?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ not powerful enough.
 
@QPaysTaxes Of course not.
 
@lserni Perfect place. What's up?
 
@lserni You can certainly ask us here!
 
Link-only answer, the link has decayed, I researched the page and found a desert :-) - stackoverflow.com/a/4265274/1428679
 
10:32 PM
NAA?
 
@JanDvorak May be manually mod applied answer bans could help.
 
too much sand to wash away
 
It is an accepted answer with 10 upvotes
 
@πάνταῥεῖ It's more a means of stopping many of these questions before they get posted. If in one action I can prevent 100 bad questions from ever being posted, that's worth the time. Also, professors are using this to instruct their students on how to ask good questions that aren't simply "do my work for me". Seen good results from that in many cases.
 
@lserni literal definition of link only answer lol
 
10:33 PM
@lserni Well, at first glance that looks like a question that should be deleted altogether.
 
@AndrewL. nope, just a prime example
 
@lserni Vote to delete or flag as NAA, just like with any other link only answer. Especially since the link is dead, because now the answer has no value at all.
 
@NobodyNada no don't flag
 
Nothing more link only then that @JanDvorak
 
@Tunaki ok; why not?
 
10:34 PM
@Tunaki yes, but how do I vote to delete? It may be the late hour in my TZ but I can't find the control.
 
@QPaysTaxes I always try to tell them, but these kind of comments are prone to be flagged.
 
@QPaysTaxes only if you're a strict descriptivist. Shame on those guys.
 
@QPaysTaxes yes
 
@PetterFriberg thanks
 
10:35 PM
 
@QPaysTaxes Unconstructive, whatever. And mods are contacting me about such stuff :/
 
@QPaysTaxes sure. But "is" isn't "should be", and don't you dare put that in a dictionary.
 
@QPaysTaxes Heh, no. I have share, edit, and flag. Nothing else
 
@lserni Not even reopen?
Did you see the screenshot I linked?
 
Yes, @Tunaki - mine is different though. Ouch, I'm so sorry - have to run :-(
 
10:37 PM
Weird, make sure you don't a userscript running loose.
Cya o/
 
@QPaysTaxes Well, lets look at one of my recent answers, I'm even not completely sure if it was homework: stackoverflow.com/a/39603068/1413395
 
Bye
 
Dunno if it's flag worthy.
 
@QPaysTaxes Maybe in Urban Dictionary? But I think I know what you mean
 
10:39 PM
perfect definition of 'meh'!
 
M-W is descriptivist, so no respect from me.
 
I finally found a name for it when you have so many tabs open, that you can't even see the icon anymore: imgur.com/a/SAZxD I call them "spikes of death" :p
 
haha
 
How to flag this?
 
@Rizier123 lame. Firefox starts scrolling much sooner
 
10:41 PM
@AndrewL. unclear
we have no idea what issue they are facing
 
Ok, thanks
 
I get the point, but the trend is disgusting IMO (but teh language ain't alone in that).
OK, strong words for losing just one word in a language, I guess, but...
 
@QPaysTaxes Yes I guess it would also
 
OK, let's cut it here
 
@Tuna what do you do with this stuff in NATO? stackoverflow.com/questions/39020457/… do you flag it or just leave comment?
I mean it is accepted answer... deleting it seems strange
 
10:46 PM
@PetterFriberg I try to salvage, if possible
Most of the time it works
But in this case.... eh not so much
 
yea it's just recommending a lib, but questions seems fairly valid
 
Thing is, flagging as VLQ is pointless as it'll go to a mod either way
 
is A link to a potential solution is always welcome, but please add context around the link so your fellow users will have some idea what it is and why it’s there. Always quote the most relevant part of an important link, in case the target site is unreachable or goes permanently offline. Take into account that being barely more than a link to an external site is a possible reason as to Why and how are some answers deleted?. a canned comment in lqp?
 
So you need to mod-flag explaining that it's link-only, not helpful and why you cannot edit.
@dorukayhan no it's not, that's one of the canned comment we use
 
hmm lot of work, is there any node.js expert in chat that can check if question is useful
 
10:51 PM
@PetterFriberg But best is to wait a bit, sometimes OP comes and edits, in respond to the comment.
 
Yeah I will favorite for now
@dorukayhan seems like Tuna's autocomment, that I also use :D, but I think it is constructive and helpful, I have only had good responses from OP on that one
 
Mar 1 at 15:34, by Tunaki
@Kyll Actually, you can thank a user called Xavi Lopez. He's the one that gave them to me.
 
That's a onebox mentioning a specific user.
 
chat flags inbound
 
I don't violate the rules often, but when I do, I make sure I violate them all.
5
 
11:02 PM
@Yam looks OK to me
 
are we reporting this unreg users (not really cat on keyboard) but close stackoverflow.com/a/39605025/5292302
 
@PetterFriberg It is abusive, but do you trust the mods to know that?
 
@PetterFriberg ha, that's where you want a troll flag :)
 
NAA and move on
 
11:12 PM
oki, the review que will have some fun
 
Well, do you trust them?
 
@PetterFriberg a mod will see it probably before that
 
If only gold's CVs were worth more weight
 
Wow some of those questions we dig up with the link-only cleanup are true gems.
 
Link?
 
11:16 PM
Gold badges aren't even worth their weight in gold.
 
@Tunaki Can't tell if sarcastic.
 
:)
 
::)
 
(:
 
/(..::..)\
 
11:18 PM
:?
 
?!?!?! :O
 
JAL
@TinyGiant shameless plug for your SODark script: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/334942/2415822
 
JAL
cya
 
Is this a dupe of this?
Bye fish!
 
11:23 PM
go ahead. Worst case it gets reopened
 
So go ahead on the dupe CV?
 
@Tunaki nuit ..... ... .. (er.... feels weird in French... )
 
yes
@Louis bon nuit
 
@AndrewL. I would leave that (no cv), you can pass a related comment if you feel it is useful
 
@JanDvorak bonne nuit, actually.
 
11:25 PM
oh, right
 
k.
 
sounds the same, though
 
bon is not pronounced the same as bonne.
 
in this case?
 
@Tunaki G8
 
11:27 PM
@JanDvorak yes, in this case.
 
I really hate that colonialist trained attitude: stackoverflow.com/questions/39604917/…
It makes me feel bad and diminishied.
@Tunaki I meant N8 of course :P
 
It's not worse than "I have a query for u", is it?
 
@JanDvorak The queen didn't certify me with that title, and its a subtle disparagement like "Nice shoes" actually.
 
What?! They did not actually mean to say that my shoes are nice?
 
How can I see the suggested edits I've reviewed
 
JAL
11:41 PM
Profile -> All Actions -> Reviews
but there are more than just suggested edits in there
 
Thanks
:)
 
JAL
np
 
JAL
So I can vote to close my question as too broad, but it it isn't binding like a dupe vote is
 
@JAL yes
 
JAL
11:42 PM
interesting
 
@Louis I may have been confused things to whom answers were applied :P
 
also note that you can close your question as a dupe even if you already voted to close it, thus having sort of a dupehammer on your own questions
 
JAL
@AndrewL. ?
 
I edited to remove irrelevant JS tag because the q is about Java but a new edit pops up with a 'better approach' which adds JS into the title?!
 
11:45 PM
@Louis Eeer, yes. As far I've experienced it means something totally different.
 
I will probably invite the guy to a chat in campaigns room
 
@Louis I didn't get it completely after all the years. Merely something like your shoes look nice, but all the rest is arguable :/
 
@Drew 'better approach'? lol
What is that supposed to mean
 
idk you said it lol
 
!!/unnotify 41570 stackoverflow.com-
 
11:52 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I see.
 
> Comment: Better approach
Suggested edit comment, what does that even mean?
 
@Drew You're a native speaker. Do you have some enlightenment about that nice shoes riddle for me? I always considered that as offensive.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ i honestly don't know
 
@Drew Seems to be urban slang maybe. Funny thing is I was told that in german also meanwhile, and I'm not completely sure how I should digest it :/
Its may be something like a person says let's test your self confidence
 
depends on the context
 
11:59 PM
@Drew Of course I've been asking for that earlier ;)
 

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