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9:00 PM
Everytime I review LQP, I want to cry. All those reviewers deleting valid answers.
Like this one stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/12456335 - 1 vote away from being deleted. Yep it's kinda poor, but NOT flaggable.
 
I need to learn another language... stackoverflow.com/questions/37423596/…
 
> <script type="text/php" src="queries.php"></script>
 
I like Gothdo's "Welcome, dear user. Dear other users, nuke this crap from orbit." approach
is that a good thing to do? flag-pls comment?
 
I wanted to say "We all like Bob, but this is not the place to laureate him"
 
it was rude
 
9:08 PM
hmm post deleted after a few other comments
 
the guy was basically spitting his dummy out because he got a downvote and then was just being unnecessarily rude
OP deleted the question anyway so all done with now
 
I'm just worried since SOCVR has already been (wrongly) accused of having certain comments removed in a shady way. I know the context was different (abuse on main site vs civil argument on meta), but still
 
There was absolutely no grey area in this scenario - the comment was blatently offensive
 
Well it is like spam / offensive posts. Only it is a comment.
 
Sam
I have no problem with removing offensive content directed at other users.
If people wanna sling mud, go ahead. At the end of the day, it's still offensive.
 
9:12 PM
anyway, all done with now - hakuna matata :)
 
Sam
:)
 
user3956566
back again morning
 
sure, sure
 
Sam
Hiya
 
Hiya o/
 
9:13 PM
upsidedown evening, @Yvette:)
 
user3956566
hi Sam
 
user3956566
et al
 
user3956566
:)
 
unclear though, migrate to ru.so
 
@Adriaan It also includes an english version
 
9:20 PM
Yeah I'd just remove it ninja'd
 
user3956566
I edited it
 
@Ferrybig barely. I'd still urge him to go to ru.so, there's he'd be a native among natives
 
user3956566
you could easily cross site post dupes in different languages. who would know and who would worry?
 
of course, but a satisfactory answer written in Russian would be much better understandable to him I think
 
user3956566
I just musing with the idea. You are probably right. Maybe there is more help here? Or op didn't know about RU
 
9:26 PM
rene passed a audit!
 
9:42 PM
@rene there is probably some work-up on this wasted vote concept but here is a quick view of wasted JS votes as I see it chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/30744324#30744324
 
@Drew Hmm, on a low traffic tag you would expect that but on JS ... interesting
 
of course my 80 number I pulled out of the air but can be seen in the hive for days that we don't use batches
that is even given credit at the day level for questions deleted but never closed. If tracked in time (captured) prior to delete. So that their goneness is evident. And the date plopped back to the askDate. So it credits the "peppering" the question took
 
@Drew Could you dumb down your calculations there? I'm having trouble understanding precisely what the numbers mean.
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 45 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 38 seconds.
 
There are a total of 1620 questions with 2305 votes outstanding (cv1 to 4). That yields an avg cv of 1.42 per question. 500 questions don't close. So that is 711 votes or 31% wasted
711 / 2305 = 31 %
 
9:58 PM
@Tunaki: hello there!
 
@gariepy Hello!
Yeah, like I was saying, there actually was a Meta post about that here meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/319617/…
 
@Tunaki: I'm not a seasoned chatter...is this an appropriate place to continue the conversation?
 
(Context for the room: stackoverflow.com/a/36157973/1743880)
 
So, I think if the main question is "Is there any way to clone a git repository's sub-directory only?" then I would agree this is a [bad] valid answer. The trouble I have is that the OP ends the text with "Is there anyway to do this with git?", indicating ( to me ) they want to use git for the answer.
 
@gariepy Sure. This chat room is focused on moderation activities through-out Stack Overflow. There are lots of experienced flaggers, reviewers, voters... here :)
 
10:03 PM
@Tunaki: hurray!
So like I said, in the language of "you're doing it wrong", this seemed like an orange. If that's not consistent with current SO usage, that's fine. I'm still a relative n00b when it comes to reviewing.
And I definitely agree the auto-comment text was confusing...I was merely choosing that the "answer" seemed more like a "comment" to me.
 
Oh I think the answer is completely wrong. Like having a PHP answer to a Java question. No question about that.
But the guidance is that wrong answers are not "Not An Answer": meta.stackexchange.com/a/185162
That's the tricky business of the LQP queue: it enables to delete content with enough reviews but forgets the fact it should only deal with answers that are flaggable to begin with.
 
Sure, I understand that. I think the way I "heard" the answer in my head, is that it would make more sense as a comment, because you're saying "you're asking the wrong question, and with a different tool, you could do it this way". And if the "answer" is really a comment, then it deserves flagging from LQP, no?
 
@gariepy That's the eternal debate with those kind of answers :)
@Floern err, too late ;)
 
well, it's not so cut and dried that I'd fall on a sword over it. :)
 
@Tunaki arg damnit :D
 
10:10 PM
sentencing the answer to downvote purgatory is also a reasonable course of action.
 
My idea is summed up roughly here meta.stackoverflow.com/a/318045/1743880
 
So while I'm here, maybe I can learn a little more about the process...if two people review a LQP, one votes for deletion, one votes "Looks Ok", is that enough to count as a disputed flag, and allow the answer to survive?
 
@gariepy No, it takes more than that. 3 "Delete" votes (by 20k users) or 6 "Recommend Deletion" to delete answer.
 
@Tunaki HAHA! Wow, it's like you replied to me, but 3 months ago!
@Tunaki How many "Looks Ok" votes to stop the process? Or is there a threshold?
 
Huh, I don't remember exactly. Let me look.
IIRC, it is 3 "Looks OK".
 
10:14 PM
@Tunaki k, thx
@Tunaki: I have tried to be diligent, as you have, in disputing what appear to be "lazy" flags about poor answers. I see what you mean that there is enough low-hanging fruit to keep the mods busy. I will take that into consideration with further reviews.
 
Awesome :) thanks for coming here btw
 
Sam
Night guys
 
Night o/
@gariepy I found it: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/226092/… all the info is there, in the "Proposed changes" section. Not very readable, but it's there :D
 
@Tunaki Ah thanks, good info.
 
Bed time cya
 
10:46 PM
@Yam nope
@Yam debatable
Anyway, off to bed, cya o/
 
o_o
I absolutely need to read this!
\o
 
Rob
11:10 PM
Morning all
 
Morning @Rob
 
11:38 PM
^ OP reverted code edit to jsfiddle link
doesn't look like an improvement at all
 
user3956566
11:57 PM
oh good to see the room is on topic zombie apocalypse (programmers after death march) LOL
 
user3956566
ok I'm going again, will see you all later \o
 

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