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4:00 PM
And when someone tries to enter an amount more than $1000, it just logs them out and says 'database error'
Oh, and of course we didn't know about this new limitation :-)
 
[for]?
 
@TylerH Wow that is a bad bug
 
They call it a "security feature"
 
No way to change it?
 
aka "we don't trust the users of our software to not charge their customers willy nilly"
 
4:01 PM
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Nope, I had to put in a feature request with the company
I mean, I'm sure there's an easy way to change it, it's probably like a 10 minute fix
but who knows how long it's actually going to take
 
That is silly. How can they believe that people won't need to charge 1K or more.
 
I dunno
I dunno why they hard code a limit in the first place
Like apps that have dates hard coded into them
and devs have to go in and change the date every year
 
Yeah it should be a system wide configurable setting(with security)
 
@Kyll Posted a comment on that post, too.
 
4:03 PM
Bye all, Got some work.
 
wow that's some bureaucracy.
And for a hospital to be limited to 1k? Not likely at all.
 
@ryanyuyu The tech I was on a call with to sort the bug out was actually surprised we had charges over 1k
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis This might be a dupe stackoverflow.com/questions/10640812/reversing-a-linked-list
 
he was like "you have single transactions over a thousand dollars?" "Uh yeah, dude, we're a hospital"
getting diagnosed with a cold costs $10,000
 
@rene Are you going to mod flag the [moderation] meta Q?
 
4:05 PM
yes
 
@Tunaki There's always a tiny difference, like they don't want to reverse it, they want to print it in reverse. Doesn't require much change, but...
 
@PraveenKumar not sure why you needed to edit that title, it was OK, wasn't it?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis He stackoverflow.com/a/37707485/1743880 =/ :)
 
@rene No bud, the problem is, We need no mod. If it was We don't need no mod. - this becomes We need mod. Crazy English.
 
4:07 PM
Oh, well the pun will be deleted soon, so nevermind
 
If you pass a comment on a post does it become active?
 
@PraveenKumar And of course depending on the region of dialect, some actually ignore the double-negative and use more of an emphatic negative like in Spanish.
 
@ryanyuyu LoL. Seriously?
@rene :'( :'(
 
@PetterFriberg I do not think so. I think only things that modify that state of the question or answer count.
 
@PraveenKumar Well, formally, no. But in common parlance, yeah
It's used for emphasis in the american south
 
4:10 PM
Okie dokie... :D
 
"We don't need no stinkin' law"
 
Yeah. At least here in the States. For example: "Aint nobody got time for that."
 
Ha ha ha...
I hate English.
 
@NathanOliver and edits correct?
 
Move south of the Channel @Praveen
 
4:11 PM
Well, that's Ebonics, not English
 
@AndrasDeak -1, no MATL
 
I hear there's a great country there :)
 
@PetterFriberg Well yeah they modify the state of the post.
 
I mean also on answers?
 
They should
 
4:11 PM
@Tunaki Sure...
 
Thanks
 
I am now in Windsor, Berkshire.
Moved to the South East. :P
 
Last active should be the last activity that changes the state of a question or answer in the thread.
 
@Tunaki you mean the US? Most of that is south of the channel.
 
@ryanyuyu The English Channel :)
 
4:18 PM
@PraveenKumar Where the castle is?
 
@rene Yea, just 10 feet from where I am sitting now.
The Windsor Castle. :D
 
@Tunaki Exactly just quite a bit more west as well.
 
51°29′0″N 000°36′15″W
to be exact
 
@PraveenKumar is the queen in today?
 
@ryanyuyu :( can't see the image
 
4:20 PM
Ah. Well, most (if not all) of the continental US is south of the English channel. I just drew a line on a map.
 
@PraveenKumar you have been promoted to be the guard of Windsor Castle? 8-s
 
@rene That's scary...
@ryanyuyu Nopes.. One day, I shall take a selfie with her and post it in Stack Overflow. :D
^ With a question title: "How can I automate getting Selfie with the Queen using "
Then I'll open-source my code. So that anyone coming here can take a Selfie.
 
@PraveenKumar And it becomes an HNQ that gets like 50 upvotes.
 
@ryanyuyu Woah! :D
 
Can anyone beyond the OP verify that this comment is correctly addressed when we start burninating? Maybe include it in the question for now? cc @NobodyNada
I had to update the comment on the burnination post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/322871/…
 
4:31 PM
... and no need to burst there and upvote it, by the way
 
@rene If the question involves Moderator variables or Moderation models, it probably belongs on Math.SE
 
are we doing an event today?
If so we can focus on that tag
 
@TylerH we need to have it featured first. Just follow the &^%$# process, will you ;)
 
oh
 
4:33 PM
@TylerH There is no regular event today
 
it's already featured...
 
it is?
 
WUT?
 
Undo 16s ago
 
it is
 
4:34 PM
refresh your screens, you 2-bit plebs
:-)
 
I was actually thinking we should take on the outstanding close request in the room. We have over a page of request in the backlog
 
@theB Can you leave a comment with that statement?
 
@NathanOliver over a page you say
 
what did you put in the flag @rene? How many bottles of whisky?
 
@rene - willco
 
4:35 PM
I'm not very motivated by bottles of whisky, unless they have high resale value
 
:D
 
@Tunaki only puppy cookies
 
@Undo How about some Lagavulin instead
 
Umm... a small village approximately three miles outside Port Ellen on the Isle of Islay, Scotland?
 
off-topic, legal advice
 
@Undo do you know how many comments are posted on SO every day or where to find that info?
 
Just a sec
 
apparently we undo it
 
@PetterFriberg sede has that
 
4:38 PM
> That's 16.5 comments per minute, 32.97 in two minutes.
 
@PetterFriberg ^ Somewhere between 15k and 40k/day
 
Thanks
 
afk
 
@Undo And like 5k are auto comments from Tuna :P
 
Probably :P
 
4:40 PM
hmm, need to stop those they just eat api calls : )
 
stackoverflow.com/q/37646213/3933332 Do I miss something obvious here or does OP need a pretty resource intensive algorithm? (See also comments under the answer)
 
moving towards home, cya
 
laterz
 
5:10 PM
^ they even included the scoring
 
@NathanOliver That's a bad question, but is it really much worse than something I posted about earlier, here? It's not a literal copy paste, but shouldn't it also deserve closure?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis if there's no one willing to answer it, it doesn't matter that we just close it, right?
 
You mean Nathan's cv-pls?
I don't think willingness should play into it, I can't read people's minds.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis that question still has the points in it from the assignment
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis That one is iffy. In that case you can just give them the algo as an answer. In my case they want us to do their homework.
 
5:15 PM
Very fine line between Output Format: On the first and only line, output a single integer which is the sum of A and B . and Requirements: No extra space, cannot reverse a linked list, cannot use recursion.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis let me put it this way: if that were the only kind of questions the site accepted would you stll visit to answer questions?
 
I'll do anything for rep ...
 
Plop again!
 
Sam
Hiya
 
@NathanOliver you found the metrics question ;)
 
5:19 PM
Yes I did
 
afk dinner
 
Bon appétit
 
@Braiam Kind of questions = How do I do (requirements)?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis lazy ass kind of questions where the OP puts in no effort to help themselves
 
No, I wouldn't.
 
5:23 PM
and that's why we close those kind of questions
 
@Braiam I'll have to disagree there
 
Then we agree that both of those should be closed?
 
@Kyll you will be the minority then...
 
Not showing any effort is not a close reason but a downvote one. Often, requirement questions can be too broad or unclear. "gimme teh codez" is not, and has never been a close reason.
Closing questions just because you dislike the fact that OP didn't do any research is abusing the powers given to you
 
@Kyll if there's no one willing to answer the question the site has to offer, why would you have questions anyways?
 
5:26 PM
back
 
the close reasons exist for the happiness of the answerers, full stop.
 
It's also not targeting a question for its content (on which we should judge its scope) but for its meta-content (who posted it, what research was done).
@Braiam WHAT
Seriously?
 
yes
 
Close reasons exist for quality control, to ensure future visitors have nice answers to their issues
 
The close reason I had suggested was "Too broad". I've used custom code-dump before, but I'm trying to avoid that recently.
 
5:27 PM
wat
 
We're not a self-sustaining system, the entire goal of SO is providing a knowledge bank for programming issues
Not making answerers gain virtual points
 
what is the question here?
 
Hell, if that was the goal, typo questions wouldn't be closable
@Tuna No idea
 
@Kyll how can future visitors "have nice answers to their issues" if nobody answers them in first place?
 
Great. I agree with Kyll then.
 
5:28 PM
17 mins ago, by Sotirios Delimanolis
@NathanOliver That's a bad question, but is it really much worse than something I posted about earlier, here? It's not a literal copy paste, but shouldn't it also deserve closure?
 
@Braiam I don't know how you link lazy questions with lazy answerers
Things like How do JavaScript closures work? are lazy questions. The many answers it received are amazing.
Now yes, it's a historical one
 
@Kyll I don't know what are you saying and how it affects what I'm saying
 
confusion is starting
 
@Braiam You say lazy questions make people not answer. I do not see why.
@Tuna chaos is spreading
 
Sam
gets popco- meh, can't be bothered
 
5:31 PM
@Kyll quality answers? really?
because anyone can just dump random words and call it an answer doesn't mean that it is an answer nor that is useful
 
@Braiam Why not?
 
you are lagging @Kyll
 
@Braiam That's a strawman
 
Problem with the initial question is that the requirements are ridiculous
 
you can call it strawman, I call it the 42
 
5:32 PM
I want to do A, without B when everyone in their right mind would do B
or actually C because XY problem
That kind of question cannot have useful answers.
 
please, Tuna, I want to forget that...
 
Forgetting...
... Done
 
People see this is just a homework assignment dump and properly downvote, but if the OP makes it look fancy, then they do not. That's what I take issue with
 
I don't have problem answering homework questions, what I reget with fervent vigor is that because you are lazy you want to displace all the effort you can do to help yourself into others
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis But by making effort to make it nice, they show they are motivated in learning, and that effort deserves answers
 
5:41 PM
@ferrybig Go through the comments. It's full of "Please show me the code."
 
I forgot what we were talking about and utterly confused, and in my confusion I will just post a unicorn pic
 
7 hours until votes refresh :(
 
one-box?
 
@Tunaki You mean starred one box?
 
5:47 PM
unicorns are exempt from no-one-box
 
> I'm reading a tutorial about Y on X. But I want A using J. Is there any alternative to 6?
4
 
@Braiam Yes. Down the hallway, left door.
 
@Braiam have you tried jQuery?
 
^ old Q. Doing some cleanup
 
JAL
@SotiriosDelimanolis pretty high number of upvotes on that question
 
5:53 PM
so?
oh, I thought that was a counterargument
I see you just noted the fish-factor
 
@JAL Indeed, I'm not in the mood for flags now lol
 
6:10 PM
Hello everyone! o/
 
o/
 
Sam
o/
 
Hi
 
I would agree. But can't vote :(
 
Sam
6:17 PM
Well he's asking which algo a company used in one of their products.
 
@QPaysTaxes That's the definition of off-topic :3
Sadly I've used all my flags ._.
Nvm, still had one left :D
What's the max cap for flags?
 
@Seth 100
 
100 per day
 
Doesnt depend on rep
Depends on your "correct" flags
 
@Seth is both
 
6:19 PM
Every 10 correct flags => 1 additional flag / day
Oh
 
@Seth Well it does a little bit. You get one per 2k rep
So if you never flagged you would still have 100 flags once you hit 200K rep
 
@QPaysTaxes 10
 
What would happen if close vote limits were proportional to reputation?
 
Uhh...
Can you reach the cap by doing only one of the two things?
@QPaysTaxes Yeah, reaching 100 flags per day by either just raising helpful flags or gaining rep
Ah ^-^ Good 2 know, thx
 
Are they? I don't know. Seems contradictory though, for duplicates at least.
 
6:23 PM
Btw, just saying (this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/37709915/…) is a bit blue-eyed, wouldn't you say? "Hey, this company has this product, I'd like to know how to recreate the core of it :)"
Indeed :>
Darn, missclicked :( Wanted to edit it...
Curses! :D
 
@QPaysTaxes Us RO's can see all of the shame ;)
 
Jesus... my PC died, I'm using a quite old notebook now & it just crashed THREE TIMES (Intel desktop manager + explorer, that is) while watching a video on 360p..
 
MUHAHAHA
 
Sam
Also, Closey keeps a log of everything.
 
That right there is shame.
 
6:26 PM
:)
 
Sam
@Seth lol
 
@Closey status
Is he dead again?
 
Sam
Ugh
 
@QPaysTaxes You mean he committed Sudoku? :/
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis people with higher rep would close a few more questions per day
 
6:28 PM
That's the japanese gist that he has, coming from @Tunaki 's input
 
but the dropoff would be very quick
 
did someone mention Japanese?
 
Nipponese
 
@Tunaki Apparently Closey committed Sudoku when he had to witness the actions of @QPaysTaxes
 
Nah, she's playing hide and seek.
 
6:30 PM
she?
 
And she's terribly good at it.
 
@Seth did you mean seppuku?
 
@Seth Yes closey is a she
 
@Seth Yes, Closey is a female bot :).
 
@ryanyuyu Yes... that was sort of a joke ._.
 
6:30 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis Just curios why did you not hammer?, out of vote (can't see that you already closed voted that in timeline)
 
As of now, no-one has been able to find Closey...
 
Oh.
 
@PetterFriberg Which one?
 
@Closey alive
Who's to blame that Closey is hiding now?...
 
marco
 
6:31 PM
I forgot the blame-command, shame on me (again)
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis the one I replied too the duplicate
 
Sorry, I'm lost. Link?
Yeah, I'm out of votes.
 
!!/blame
 
@ryanyuyu It's Mogsdad's fault.
 
Just don't abuse/spam the bot commands please
 
 
@QPaysTaxes Oh then you may not to be able to. You have to ask for permission and be accepted to use the bots(although some commands work for everyone)
 
like the blame one, for example. I haven't registered with Smokey
 
@QPaysTaxes It's NathanOliver's fault.
 
@Nathan Are there any set requirements in order to be allegible to use the bots?
 
C# people, surely this question has a duplicate. But I don't remember enough of the comment targets.
 
6:42 PM
github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Commands there are some commands that everybody can use until RO don't get crazy
 
@QPaysTaxes You didn't see that one coming, did you? :D
 
nvm it was deleted.
 
@SmokeDetector sd n
 
@Seth Not really. You just need to ask the appropriate people.
 
6:44 PM
@Nathan Who is appropriate? :o
"Can I have data"
 
Go to the charcoal room.
 
@Seth Depends on the bot ;)
 
@QPaysTaxes "Can I have data" is; "Suggestions for applications" isn't.
probably should be two questions, but meh
 
@NathanOliver Hmm... For Closey I'm assuming I'd have to ask Tuna or Sam? I don't know who else develops "her" :o
 
@Undo Query api and find the non deleted ones (you have the close reason in api)
 
6:46 PM
@PetterFriberg only ~500 are undeleted
 
@NathanOliver But I have no clue who works on the SD :s Yvette?
 
@Seth For closey you can actually ask the bot. For smokey you need to ask someone from the charcoal room like undo or ArtOfCode.
 
@Seth closey is meant for people with close votes (3k rep). I suppose you could still run stuff like stats though.
@NathanOliver well you could have asked closey if she were running
 
Yes. You have to ask closey when she is not hiding.
 
6:49 PM
o.o Someone called Seth committed stuff o:
 
@QPaysTaxes Whatcha doing?
 
@QPaysTaxes Voting to close as unclear :o What join exactly? Or joins in general?
 
Yeah just an inner join? @QPaysTaxes
 
Usually it either "just" works or "doesn't" work
hah, I have a query for that I wrote up today
 
yay for SEDE
 
6:52 PM
Change the select to p.Id as [Post Link] for pretty
 
@Undo If you are desperate I can put some logic in the SOCVFinder to ping you when as user close as recommendation request, but I guess we get really few of them...
 
@PetterFriberg yeah, not enough volume to be worth it
 
@NathanOliver What exactly do people do when working with the SD? Basically you tell "him" wether what he found is spam/offensive/naa or if it's not, right?
 
@Seth Yep. SD reports and we tell him if he was right or wrong. If he was right we also flag the post to nuke it.
 
@QPaysTaxes it joins stuff together
;-)
 
6:56 PM
@NathanOliver Do you separately flag it, or do you automatically flag it by confirming the report?
 
@Seth separately.
 
Ahh, I see :D
 
SD reports, we open the link, flag or no flag and then report back to smokey
 
^
 
@Undo seems kinda broad. What do you hope to gain from the data?
 
6:59 PM
a base-line
 
A way to detect problematic questions by their titles before they're posted?
 

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