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12:02 AM
Oh hey, just noticed this: i.stack.imgur.com/DerHH.png
Is this an answer then? stackoverflow.com/a/37714742/5299236
 
Looks like a rant about bad customer service, not an honest attempt to answer the question.
 
Well, that answer is unclear to me.
 
More I look at it... it is an answer, its just the question is... smelly
 
Wat, off-topic then.
 
that question is POB in my opinion
> According to the description on their website it looks promising. If someone has already used this SDK please share a few thoughts with me, so I could give a better report to my boss.
either that or too broad or both
and low quality:P
 
12:10 AM
I was going to vote POB
 
"opinion rec"? tool rec + POB:P
 
Err...that seems even not about programming.
 
voted as POB
old poo with new poo activity, that's enough
 
Okay, POB then.
 
Any ideas how to create a fast "WordList LookUp array"? Like having an array with words e.g. ["round", "roundish"] is pretty slow. So I used ["r" => ["u" => ["n" => NULL]]] which is much faster, but it also finds words like ru which don't exist.
 
12:14 AM
@Rizier123 Is that PHP?
 
Yes. I just need the idea to code.
 
Still working on the anagram generator?
 
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@Sam night
 
@Rizier123 Oh, PHP is really weird. Happy that I didn't try to learn it. .
 
@theB Yup :P (I can't use the hash thingy, since I search for substrings . So a hash for the entire word while only working with substrings is useless)
@KevinGuan Well: Searching a value in a 5k array 100k times => 13sec. Do it right => 0.3sec. So you just have to know how to do it.
 
12:21 AM
@Rizier123 Do you have an upper bound on the length of the input string?
 
nope
 
Can you comprehend python?
 
some stuipid speed-up could be storing stuff in hashes for the first few letters, right?
 
@Rizier123 Huh, fine.
 
search roundish in lookup['ro'] onward
 
12:24 AM
I'm already doing something like this. Instead of storing stuff like ["round", "roundish"] I do it like: ["r" => ["o" => ...]] that already helps a lot
 
yeah I've seen you write that object for the third time know, but it still doesn't say anything to me:P
oh you mean hashes letter by letter
 
like lookup['r']['o']['u']['n']['d'] contains something that says that this is a word, right?
if you have the memory, that should be fast
it sounds like having exponential memory need, but still:P
 
A good example always helps: 3v4l.org/tfY9S :P
 
$tmp = &$tmp[strtolower($c)];
nope ^ :P
way too much php for 2 AM
 
12:32 AM
Don't look at the functions just below it
 
yeah I just found that
don't you want have to store an "end of word" indicator?
otherwise you'll find every possible substring
 
That is the problem right now ^^. What do you mean with "end of word indicator"?
 
put a NULL or whatever at the end
 
Yes that is what I try to do. But The thing is with "round" and "roundish" I can't put a null for "d", because it goes further for "roundish".
 
umm...
you have round +array(terminator, =>ish)
one element after "round" is a terminator, another element goes on to live as roundish
does this make sense to you?
I'm not sure it makes sense to me, is why I'm asking
 
12:35 AM
Something like a B-Tree?
 
I hope that wasn't directed at me
 
yes
 
I try to do something like: round + [NULL, children => ish].
The thing is I need speed everywhere where I can. Now I could probably do a solution with recursion to create the tree, but that would probably be slower than using http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/31045092#31045092 :P <- But how that works is ... yeah :P
 
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@DavidG @TimCastelijns not feeling the poetry in the room guys
 
@Rizier123 well since you seemed to have arrays, I figured you can put multiple continuations
fa+[t, ke]
 
12:37 AM
@Yvette No poetry, but I wrote a paragraph story that was published today! paragraphplanet.com
 
but if that's the case, you can terminate each valid path with NULL or something
that's all I can add as a complete layman:)
I don't know php nor trees nor lookup tables, so yay
 
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@DavidG that's plain spooky mate
 
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LOLOL
 
@QPaysTaxes but it needs to end
 
@AndrasDeak Well that would be an idea to have the end of the word as value and not key. Not sure how much slower it would get then, but I can give it a try.
 
12:38 AM
roundish and round have to be separate hits
 
@Yvette Haha yeah, the 75 word format lends itself to some great plot twists
 
while roundi can't be a hit
 
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@DavidG it was good, but spooky
 
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you're actually a good writer
 
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NOW WRITE SOME POETRY YOU SLACKER!!
 
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12:40 AM
:D
 
@Yvette Aw, thanks!
Feel free to write your own! :)
 
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@DavidG sorry we fought in meta sob
 
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I'm still recovering
 
Nah, meta is for fighting :)
 
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@DavidG nope I bring the love mate!
 
12:40 AM
@QPaysTaxes I'd use None in python
 
@Yvette I love it when Aussies say "mate" all the time lol
 
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If I could swear I'd say, I bring the f.ing love mate! (in a Scottish accent) What more do yee wan?
 
End
(your own singleton class:P)
 
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@DavidG well it's mate or love, but some overseas people get scared of the love, but it means mate, you understand love?
 
I do understand. Also had way too many beers tonight so I understand more than usual!
 
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12:42 AM
bahahahaha too funny
 
I went out for "a" beer
 
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My son ans I were talking in Scottish accents and he said how come may accent sounded Indian? LOL all my accents end up sounding Indian, cos my dad is from Sri Lanka (so it sounds Sri Lankan actually which sounds Indian)
 
haha
 
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@QPaysTaxes it does love, true story, don't make me get a link on you, I will! (making it sound like a punishment)
 
Maybe we should all get on a voice chat thing one day
 
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12:44 AM
@QPaysTaxes same, except Indian, they start off German, Irish, Scottish, end up Indian
 
@AndrasDeak Not done testing, but already know I was able to improve the code a bit :P
 
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@QPaysTaxes nah, cannot use mate to == love as verb
 
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so you can say
 
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how you going mate? how you going love? But if you say do you mate it? It sounds like you are asking in a strange way if you have sex with something LOLOL
 
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@QPaysTaxes NOoooooooooooooooo that would be really bad, see comment above ^^ LOLOL
 
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12:46 AM
@QPaysTaxes it would be!
 
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Aussies are very laid back and insult each other when they like each other
 
Well I need sleep, 1:45 am is way too late when I have work in a few hours. G'night all!
 
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they also give everyone nicknames
 
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@DavidG night love!
 
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yeh I better work
 
12:47 AM
@Yvette night mate!
 
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@DavidG night mate. I bring the love mate
 
@AndrasDeak It is interesting how little tweaks can make a huge difference when you have huge input data.
 
@Rizier123 glad to hear that:)
@Rizier123 and if you do something 100k times, everything matters
 
I was able to break down the time to create the tree for 5k words 100 times from 2.7sec. to 1.9sec.
 
1:05 AM
yesterday, by Braiam
If you had any faith left in humanity... just read this http://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/325613/792066
 
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I hadn't seen it
 
@AndrasDeak I was switching between code tab and output tab. BUT I also switched files in the code tab and since I had copied the one file for testing I didn't noticed it. BUT I got really confused with the code output :P 2 AM coding
 
:D
it's pi o'clock right now
oop, not anymore
probably time for bed
 
Got it working now. Now I need to benchmark it.
 
good luck:)
and good night
 
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1:16 AM
@AndrasDeak night
 
@AndrasDeak night. (Same speed +/- so all in all good :)
 
:)
oh, if it was python, I could describe what I had in mind like this:
 
1:29 AM
from collections import defaultdict as d
# default value if missing key
def f(): return None

# assume that vocabulary contains only foo, bar, baz
lookup = d(f,
           { 'f': d(f,
                     {'o': d(f,{'o':0})
                     }
                    ),
             'b': d(f,
                     {'a': d(f,
                             {'r': 0,
                              'z': 0
                             }
                            )
                     }
                   )
sorry, took a bit longer than expected
so it's a nested structure of dicts (=hashes=associative arrays) which have a default None value for undefined keys
In [281]: lookup['f']['o']['o']
Out[281]: 0

In [282]: lookup['f']['o']['g']
so you can check incrementally each letter of your word, and if the given dict value is not None, then you can dereference another level and see what's there
if the end of your word has value 0, then you have a word
it's probably insanely memory-inefficient:)
I just wanted to give a chance to myself to explain it:D
I probably failed, but at least I ordered my thoughts on the matter
@Rizier123 good night for real now:)
(oh I forgot to mention that the second line, starting with "In [282]" doesn't produce any output, since the output is None...)
@jdphenix please edit to have [tag:cv-pls]
 
<-- Chat noob
 
that's OK, just do it:P
 
I did, thank you
 
you didn't
you did
sorry, chat's acting up:(
good night
 
It's all good. What does the tag do for you anyhow
bot watching?
 
1:35 AM
@jdphenix possibly, yes
probably "cv-pls" would be enough, but it's best to stick to the standard
I don't know how the cv-pls request graveyard userscript works
it's also easier for people to spot a request:)
bye
 
I'm not going anywhere :D
 
 
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3:08 AM
^ commented, still too broad
 
3:22 AM
stackoverflow.com/q/37716211/3933332 Why not create 200 variables? :P
 
3:48 AM
stackoverflow.com/q/37716335/3933332 tried to give as much advice as I could :P
 
 
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5:32 AM
@rene has someone changed the open pls request you did to close pls? I have two cls pls requests
 
5:53 AM
I tried to create a SEDE query to find questions which do not contain any of the tags in gist.github.com/tripleee/bb6c95b61a59410b47c05d47d64403db but as usual, my SQL skills are too rudimentary
would anybody here be able to pull off a query which actually works?
 
6:12 AM
stackoverflow.com/… is a start but I can't put all the tags I wanted
 
6:57 AM
hi! does anybody here is familiar with restful wcf services? :D
 
Hiya
@Arty Not the room for that.
 
7:16 AM
Good morning
 
mornin
 
morning @kay
 
Hiya @Bhar @Adr howdy \o
 
All's well here, You gotta tell :)
 
:)
 
7:19 AM
Here as well, it's a great swell
 
Morning
 
Morning @ferry
Gibberish
 
@BhargavRao Sorry =)
 
Np, See the top right corner of the rooms to learn as to what the room is about.
 
7:38 AM
@Yvette wait, what? We test in production so you might find a bug or two, three ....
 
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@rene ah I think when they're not closed it may be showing up two cls vote pls
 
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yes
 
@Yvette oh, that is weird.
 
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I am 9032 rep, so will have delete votes soon!!!
 
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@rene sorry if I had more time I would've looked at it myself
 
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7:43 AM
stressssssssed
 
@Yvette starts down voting to prevent the aussie deletez all the thingz ...
 
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@rene :D
 
@Yvette I'll try to repro, no worries
 
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there was a 500 bounty, I had 7 upvotes, the OP didn't award it, so I got half
 
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how stingy is that
 
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7:45 AM
@rene land on any open question and you will see it
 
Hiya o/
 
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\o
 
@Yvette I can't repro, I'm in Chrome, you have version 1.5.13 right? and only one version of the script running?
 
@Tunaki \o
 
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7:50 AM
@rene ah chrome, will check dashboard hang on
 
@Tunaki Nope.. Different Language, Leave "Use English Please" comment and flag as VLQ
 
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@rene two scripts! soz
 
@BhargavRao Ok
 
@Tunaki Rough translation is, "You dumb guy, use == and not =", So it's mildly offensive.
But VLQ is the best.
 
went for that, thanks
 
7:54 AM
The close script keeps asking me to update....
 
Just wait some seconds, do it, then it wont nag you again :)
 
@Ferrybig do you have localStorage enabled?
@Yvette so you had the script twice, right? Are you OK with a no-fix for that ;)
 
@rene yes, it usually happens when I visit a SE ste I never visited earlier since the last update
 
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@rene yep O<O that's the best cross eye I can do
 
@Ferrybig once it updated ( but we went from 1.5.8 to 1.5.13 yesterday) it should be fine.
 
8:04 AM
@rene That would explain the amount of notifications, I just went from 1.5.11 to 1.5.13, and yesterday I got at least 3 notifications
 
@Ferrybig yeah, and we keep the lastcheck in localstorage so that is per site
 
8:15 AM
Morning everyone o/
 
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smorning seth
 
Hiya o/
 
Hiya \o
 
Hiya \o/
 
@Yvette Shat sare sou sup so?
 
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8:21 AM
@Seth srogramming sove
 
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sand sou?
 
@Yvette Same sere :D Sust sinished soff san sannoying sask, shat sas sa sain sin she ***
sand sow sim seating sake, since sa sew sapprentices save sheir sast say :3
 
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@Seth sass! si snow!
 
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"seating sake" si'm strying sand scannot sunderstand
 
sare swe starting sthis sagian?
 
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8:29 AM
seth sand si snever stopped S;D
 
Plop!
 
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plo[!
 
Is this the python room?
 
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can I just give you access to my account @Kyll and you can chat for me and do my close reviews :D
 
Yvette by proxy
 
8:32 AM
@Yvette What could possibly make you think I don't already have access to it?
 
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@Kyll oh yeh
 
star fail
 
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@AndrasDeak yeh, Yvette would be friendlier if Kyll was operating her account
 
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@Tunaki ?
 
@Tunaki maybe some people appreciate my fine sense of humour
 
Sam
8:36 AM
Hiya
 
user3956566
hi!
 
hey @Sam
 
Who is the actual father of "plop"?
 
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@KhalidHussain that just sounds so wrong lol
 
Sam
@KhalidHussain Kyll
 
8:44 AM
 
lol:D
 
question should be closed, too; no MCVE
 
@Sam I thought answer will be something like this....youtu.be/HG7dmCjz534?t=48
 
is a poo mine
 
@Kyll as in "my poo"? Do you poo open-source?
 
8:55 AM
@AndrasDeak As in so many things in there are blatantly off-topic. Added to my Watch tab =p
 
@Kyll please notice my comment here. It is about your concern for editing closed posts.
 
@rene Ah, thanks. I read halfer's comments but not yours. On it.
sd wtf
n..?
 
o.o
 
sd del then
 
9:00 AM
@rene Yeah, we share the same view as per my previous message. If an edit can salvage a post's scope without conflicting with OP or invalidating answers, by all means go for it. But, for example, removing fluff (signature, greetings) on an on-hold question doesn't seem very useful to me
 
@Tunaki The first has a pending edit
 
yeah...
 
Uhh
Community locked the post..?
Oh
Seems like I ran into a race condition
 
@Kyll Blame race conditions
 
I had the same
#2 is still alive.
 
9:09 AM
not anymore
 
9:36 AM
huge mistag there
 
seems to suffer a bit yeah
 
"DO NOT use this tag for career, employment, or hiring practice questions, as these are off-topic! "
That goes to show how well people can read these days :]
 
@Seth read?
what is 'read'?
 
@Tunaki Dunno o.o I just like using words that I don't know :3
Makes me sound all professional 'n stuff, uno?
 
10:00 AM
^ Del plz.
 
did something changed in the voting reversal stuff? It reversed all but two
 
Why? The roomba will take care of it in seven days
 
I'm not patrolling NATO, too much things going on (cc @BhargavRao)
 
Pic As Code...
See the contents.
 
huh
that doesn't look like spam?
 
10:08 AM
it is not
It seems to be OT though.
 
yes
 
Some love of Del-V on this, please?
 
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@PraveenKumar less than 1k to go before I get delete votes
 
@Yvette sand sthe selete sall steh singhs shappen!@#
 
@Yvette something something weight loss
sorry I read that as "1kg to go"
 
10:22 AM
Andris \o
 
I also happened to sleep 4 hours last night so bear with me
 
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@AndrasDeak lol
 
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@kayess so strue sayess!
 
stackoverflow.com/q/37720352/3933332 A missing bracket gets 3 upvotes?!
 
Typo Q then?
 
10:29 AM
at least it's not a 150k answerer
also, it should be parenthesis
 
@kayess Yes, but if there is a dupe for it I use it :P
 
I'll never reach 10k with so many crap answers around
 
@Rizier123 :-) Ok
 
@Rizier123 You have not seen the worse today... a System.out.println(file.getAbsolutePath()); got 7 upvotes!
 
@AndrasDeak In my world a bracket is all three at the same time: } ] )
 
10:31 AM
yeah I guess that's a possible interpretation
maybe even correct English
it just bugs me that for () there's a special unambiguous word
 
} -> curly brace
] -> square brace
) -> parenthesis
2
 
oh and @Rizier123 I was grumping about the asker/answerers, not you:)
 
none of them are brackets :p
 
Oh no, I misread it!
] -> spearrel brace
 
If you bracket you buy it.
If you bra-ket you're doing quantum mechanics.
 
10:35 AM
yes ^
 
@Yvette No, only 10k+...
 
@Tunaki I'll take care.
 
Woot
 
wasn't open-source burned?
@Tunaki wiggly parenthesis*
 
> created 7 years ago
if it was, then not very effectively
 
10:42 AM
 
@AndrasDeak bra-cat? acmedia.alaskacommons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/… @JonC won't be glad seeing a cat :p
 
"Provide me solution as soon as possible"
How about no...
 
10:58 AM
@tripleee meh, I would close it as non-programming question
 

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