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12:09 AM
 
@Rizier123 Nice!
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 nice
 
> These requrests should NOT be a habit and only be used when needed
-----------^^^^^^
 
user3956566
@NobodyNada close votes please :D
 
@NobodyNada Not sure what you mean :)
 
12:11 AM
s/requrests/requests
 
@NobodyNada (Make a refresh (Maybe Ctrl + F5))
 
12:42 AM
> Yeah, I agree. the webrtc doesn't know when the cricket is alive
 
12:55 AM
@SmokeDetector not going to scroll till the flag link.... so... M-F-2 for you!
 
@Rob User blacklisted (6417303 on stackoverflow.com).
 
2:00 AM
 
2:30 AM
@JarrodRoberson That... probably could've gone more constructively...
 
3:22 AM
@Shadow can you review my close vote OT Other reason at the bottom of this question stackoverflow.com/q/37600925 thx
 
 
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4:52 AM
@SmokeDetector wingding is keeping busy; flagged for moderator attention in addition to flagging as abusive and voting to delete
 
Rob
Too quick for me.
 
Trip in the house
 
Rob
!!/location
 
@Rob Raspberry Pi
 
wingding using a different name now?
 
Rob
5:03 AM
Or they've found a friend
Bleh.. why do people keep making trivial edits on meta posts
meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/309151/revisions bumps a near-year old post for no real reason
 
5:59 AM
Good Morning
 
6:17 AM
@alex for sd naa there is a shorter alias sd n
 
@Magisch Yeah, but jQuery > $ :)
 
Rob
sd naa2
 
@Rob [:30936039] Recorded answer as an NAA in metasmoke.
 
Now hold on
This seems fishy
 
Rob
Apparantly the 2 doesn't work @Sam
Okay, now it's suspicious
Can I retract an 'naa'?
 
6:25 AM
@Rob no refund.
 
Rob
:(
Well, I flagged it for admin on the metasmoke site
 
I raised a custom modflag
I still think its just NAA, but it might be a setup for a voting ring or something
 
Rob
Gaytri and ziyapathan are a voting ring
MrCS possibly misguided - I left a comment for them
 
Not sure if I should NAA flag since it looks very suspicious or just a custom flag. But custom flags take so long :(
 
I already raised custom flags on both
And commented on MrCS
The ziyapatan guy looks like he's trying to setup a vote ring, which the mods will probably foil.
 
6:32 AM
This morning I saw a picture how someone changed out their MacBook Pro keyboard back lights with RGB lights and it looks so awesome :P Now I'm tempted to try it myself to do it.
But then I would need to deconstruct my entire laptop :P
 
7:00 AM
Morning \o
 
@kayess o/
 
@Magisch \o
Howdy mate
 
7:15 AM
Morning
@Rob The 2 should be in front of the command
@SmokeDetector Also: nice ascii art
 
nuked
 
7:37 AM
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
Hiya
Hiya
 
Lowya
 
(facepalm)
 
7:40 AM
> Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance
that was fast, works now
 
user3956566
@TylerH I've also thought that it's insane they don't need to register to answer. It just makes the whole spam rubbish thing one step easier
 
Hey there @Yvette o/
 
user3956566
\o :)
 
how are you dear?
 
user3956566
working
 
user3956566
7:52 AM
alwyas working
 
user3956566
but it's really enjoyable work!! and from home, with a great boss who pays quickly, what more can you ask for???
 
user3956566
a true love, yes I know that's true, but off topic
 
user3956566
how are you? LOL
 
Rob
@Ferrybig Oh, thanks!
 
user3956566
@Rob doing really nice job for bhp
 
7:55 AM
is your boss looking for more remote workers by any chance?
 
user3956566
well one mining site
 
I'm all right :)
 
user3956566
@tripleee possibly
 
user3956566
mvc asp.net
 
ugh, nvm
 
Rob
7:55 AM
@Yvette You are?
 
user3956566
@Rob yep
 
user3956566
working for someone else, who's patient of me learning
 
user3956566
he's so good
 
Rob
Nice
I did a while working from home
I find I get way too lazy that way though hah
 
user3956566
they currently have all their diesels projections and stats in an excel spreadsheet that they copy from week to week
 
Rob
7:56 AM
Forcing myself to go into an office job instead
 
user3956566
I work better from home being single mum and having a bit of a disability
 
user3956566
as long as I tell him when I'm working he's cool whatever hours I work
 
Rob
Fair enough, sounds nice
 
user3956566
but it's good having peers in an office environment
 
user3956566
@tripleee wha'ts your trade?
 
user3956566
7:58 AM
ah nvm looked at profile
 
user3956566
I do keep people on here in mind for work
 
I work in email security, mainly anti-spam but increasingly converging to malware, ransomware, phishing, and other online threats
 
user3956566
good to know
 
though my background is in computational linguistics, and sometimes I long to go back
 
user3956566
@BrockAdams haven't seen you for ages!
 
user3956566
7:59 AM
@tripleee that sounds more interesting
 
@Yvette Been busy, RL.
 
user3956566
yep
 
user3956566
I gotta go real life calls be back later!
 
I like both, it's just frustrating to not have 48 hours in a day
make that 72, for wife & kids & dogs
 
8:20 AM
Doesn't everbody love this
I was writing a specific piece of software for the better part of 3 months, and now suddenly the requirements have changed entirely
 
Meh. old story @Magisch
 
Yeah nothing new.
It'd more surprisising if the requirements didn't change.
 
But they'd still like it on time
 
Of course.
 
despite the fact that I have to essentially start from scratch now
 
8:21 AM
Did it totally change?
 
@Magisch your customer is a stand-up comedian?
 
@trip \o
 
The process thats being automated is the same, but the paradigm of automation changed entirely
So I can't reuse any of the code I wrote so far
 
That sounds like some design trouble
 
They will say that the code wasn't abstracted enough. Or ^ badly designed ;)
 
8:23 AM
^-------- Like that Tuna said
 
Oh zalgo, nice.
 
Free waffles for the room
 
@kayess Its the same troll who keeps making new accounts under the same name
 
SE guys should give us root on their core routers so we could fix these issues faster :p
 
He's using a snowshoe proxy network
IP blocks are no use against this guy
 
8:29 AM
Yeah right, lets just move on :)
 
0
Q: wingding troll is upping the ante

tripleeeThe "wingding" snowshoe troll is making regular appearances, and the frequency appears to be escalating. The last few days, there have been a few incidents per day; today, we are already up in half a dozen. Recent stats: https://metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&title=&body=&use...

(hoping the onebox can be excused this time)
 
are the and tags redundant in this question due to it being tagged with the tag?
@Magisch oh, is that guy back again?
 
@cybermonkey I'd say give him the BOD and the tags are okay.
 
Rob
To be honest, making meta posts about him just gives him more incentive to do it
If people just flagged the posts without saying anything, they'd lost interest quickly
 
quite possible
 
Sam
8:42 AM
@Rob Huh?
Hiya
 
o/
 
@Rob true, but this nonsense has been going on for at least 7 months now
 
one downvote on the meta post so far /-:
 
just before Christmas 2015, a couple of days into 2016, February, April, and now today.
 
Rob
@Sam Sorry - mixed up bot owners ;)
 
Sam
8:44 AM
Oh, np. :)
 
@Samey \o
 
Sam
o/
 
this is different from regular spam; it's pretty clear that this guy has a beef with Stack Overflow specifically. So just blocking him is going to make him figure out how to bypass the block. Perhaps we should make it look like it's working for him, but hide the bot posts from everyone else.
 
@tripleee "just blocking him" isn't a thing. He is using many different IP adresses, and a large proxy network
We can't nuke IP adress ranges to catch a single troll
 
Rob
I'm not convinced it's a beef with SO. To me it seems like a kid just having fun in their free time. That's just an opinion of course, but the stuff he posts which is supposed to be offensive is fairly .. tame
 
8:47 AM
The concept of a shadow ban on SO is interesting, but also devastatingly destructive if there are any false positives
 
Rob
spamming the word sex 100 times is more annoying than offensive
 
He isn't posting offensive things mostly, just garbage
Like eyesore zalgo or some random word repeated 1000 times
 
Rob
Yeah, but sometimes he targets OPs, and the way he 'insults' them seems strange
At least from my point of view it seems from childish boredom, not targeting SO
 
@Magisch a simple user name block would work for the time being, but would be an obviously easy thing to work around if you notice
so making them not notice would mitigate at least a little bit
 
Meaow Guys! :D
 
Sam
8:52 AM
Hiya
 
user3956566
9:06 AM
he knows how SO works, one comment he said to the OP now your question will be protected @tripleee @Rob
 
user3956566
about viagra
 
user3956566
> Le Levitra Cialis Viagra Levitra Cialis Le Le Le Levitra Viagra Levitra
 
@Yvette not sure I understand, you mean the meta post will be effectively closed?
 
Yes Google Translate has that
 
user3956566
@tripleee meaning the wingding person knows how SO works when s/he is spamming/trolling
 
user3956566
9:08 AM
they have knowledge of the network, so I am thinking maybe a failed account holder
 
Plop!
 
Hiya
 
o/
 
Sam
\o
 
That could be an interesting question though, once reworded
To me it seems that OP is pretty much confused
 
9:24 AM
@kayess Maybe it could be interesting. Maybe. But I don't see how this question could be edited to not be off-topic, it's just asking which way is better... :p
 
@EricD I mean as if OP could provide his code, though waffle
 
ah, ok :)
 
@EricD Commented
 
LoL...
Tuna, you are late...
 
:(
 
9:32 AM
If a manual report is before a normal report, the normal won't be send, but the reverse will happen, a manual report can repost a normal check
 
not sure if it's off-topic; the subject certainly suggests it is
 
user3956566
@tripleee I have no cvs left, it's not on topic
 
9:55 AM
Assuming you have 5 subsequent checks using an if statement
 
@Yvette not entirely convinced removing the subject from the topic was an improvement
 
Is it better to have 5 consecutive if statements or a nested if statement 5 deep
 
@Magisch Context? Might need to rethink your structure there
 
@Magisch None.
 
^^ - that @Magisch
 
9:56 AM
@Magisch without further info, 5 consecutive is better -- lower cyclomatic complexity, avoids code arrow antipattern
 
@tripleee Code arrow, as in pyramid?
 
see how I anticipated that question?
 
Yeah, the dreaded whitespace pyramid
@Tunaki Geek Faeries cancelled! Aucard de Tours too! There's no oil, protests in the street, and the rivers are overflowing.
 
Writing a mockup for context
sec
 
@EricD Check it, op has added some code
 
user3956566
10:12 AM
@tripleee my edit? sorry wasn't paying enough attention! will fix
 
maybe just wait for it to go away
 
user3956566
lolol omg that was a bad edit LOL I'm laughing my ass off. I was so taken by the error and what it looked like after the edit i didn't check the magic edit. Dam I edited it and probably threw it into the reopen queue. I had to be fair though.
 
user3956566
> What happened to my? bloddy hilarious question title
 
more likely it will gain the much needed additional delete votes
 
blob
 
10:16 AM
Nopes...
Wrong... :D
Ha ha ha... :D
 
@Magisch Could you refactor that to make it polymorph? One abstract base class for the contract and have the conditions on separate classes
One big plus here that you will obey OCP, TDA, DRY.
Noticing the Tell Don't Ask could be hard here the first time though.
Right, I'm chatting with myself :D
 
^ the link is spammy and unrelated to the Q&A
 
Its in plain c
Thats roughly what it looks like
Important to note: I need all of these as seperate ifs, due to the need to do more stuff after each if, its simplified
 
@kayess standard C doesnt have classes
 
10:24 AM
gawn
 
:30940977 k
 
user3956566
@tripleee it's deleted
 
Also
I'm hesitant to ask this on SO since surely there is a dupe somewhere but I've been unable to find one yet
:(
 
user3956566
I really understand what you mean about the number of hours in a day to work and be a parent etc @tripleee
 
user3956566
ok I'll be back later
 
10:25 AM
@Magisch This is most probably a XY situation. Why do you need 5 if in the first place?
 
cause I have 5 consecutive checks with very specific procedures to be called before each subsequent one
 
@Magisch you're missing the if (function1(param)==1) abort(); /* else */ dostuff1(); variant
 
sure but what does it depend on?
 
the dostuff2(); are simplified versions of lots of user input, some database input, and validation checks
 
assuming abort(); leaves the function
 
10:27 AM
SO C VR in effect :p
 
Essentially these consecutive checks roughly outline the entire process of scanning multiple things, gaining database feedback, scanning more things, entering some numbers per hand, and fetching some sensor data
The entire current code is made in the second option, and its approaching 400 lines for that function alone
 
@Magisch see here for polymorphism in C stackoverflow.com/questions/8194250/polymorphism-in-c :p
 
@SmokeDetector Wow! Is this possible?
 
I now have to write a similar process
 
AllSpam is nice...
 
10:30 AM
That looks incredibly complicated @kayess
 
@Magisch Based on that input only, I would break it up to say 5 different methods, sounds like you could use the composite and the command pattern here. Make each of 5 methods a command, and align them to separate composite use cases
 
Which then you could decorate with later on with new additions
 
Yeah. Because today, there are 5 of them.
Tomorrow, there'll be 100.
 
Thats why I'm recommending him as so ------^
 
10:32 AM
I've written some guidance for common Smokey feedback confusions. Feedback/improvements etc welcome.
3
 
Mhm
Im not sure that I can do that
the structure is largely fixed due to having to use functions I haven't written
 
Np. each command/query can call whatever it want, could even raise event that something has happened in the problem domain
Don't forget to slap me if I'm thinking too OOP here though.
 
I have no clue whatsoever about OOP yet
So far I have worked with VB6 and C, and VBA
 
Our Tunafish could yell at me anytime:p
 
just to elaborate on what I already wrote
 
10:35 AM
leave early (fail fast)
 
Hmm
 
notice also that 24 lines << 40 lines
though most of the difference is due to brace conventions
 
Isn't that just syntactic sugar over using else in this case, @tripleee?
 
well it adds to clarity
 
yeah, isn't your question about syntax conventions?
 
10:36 AM
My question is over both readability and performance
 
New room name: SO Code Vault Reviewers
 
assuming there is a performance difference
 
not really
the performance should be pretty much the same, and probably compiles to almost identical machine code
but if this is really critical, you should experiment and measure, of course
 
@Magisch a good read for OOC cs.rit.edu/~ats/books/ooc.pdf
 
I wonder if this would make a good question on SO
 
10:39 AM
the repetitive patterns do suggest "think about oop"
 
Or if its a XY problem swamp
 
@Magisch Probably on programmers?
 
I vote XY problem :).
 
even if your language isn't OOP, refactoring it so it looks like polymorphic methods might improve code flow
though you need to sling around pesky function pointers in C to do that
 
I don't like pointers
They annoy me
 
10:40 AM
then C is for you!
 
Especially since I can't debug this, I have to live test it
 
Use Java then!
 
@Tunaki The thing im running this on can't even run any form of OS, why do you think it could run Java?
 
That is a show-stopper indeed.
 
my friend used to run a business for creating embedded controllers, they improved productivity a lot by implementing a simple Lisp-like interpreter to use as their platform
 
10:52 AM
afk eating
 
:30941718 why
:30941718 k
 
Rude or Abusive ^^^
 
Already removed...
The sd remove is for the report and k for the previous one.. Not sure why I missed it. :D
 
11:12 AM
Plop!
 
@AshishAhujaツ Hi!
 
11:24 AM
@Tunaki if you're here: this in not Java right? [perl] was already removed from it; I'm inclined to vote as Too Broad/unclear
 
Morning
 
@Yvette That was already reported in CharCoal
Morning Nathan!
 
@NathanOliver Hi
 
@Adriaan the topic and the last line of the image say Matlab
 
@tripleee everything does, that's why I was surprised to see it tagged java and perl as well
 
11:32 AM
the tag should probably be removed as well
or just vote to close
 
@NathanOliver Hi
 
o/
 
I can't believe somebody OCRed and pasted the code
 
^ VLQ?
 
11:35 AM
Yeah
 
@NathanOliver @EricD No. It's spam. The user used the same link to spam SO before.
 
but the blog does seem to be specifically about that topic
 
It is no affiliation. Yeah spam
 
(already voted as spam, anyway)
 
manual delete
 
11:39 AM
I would put up my code on code review
but people would blast it
 
Code about what?
 
To many plops?
 
@Magisch not a lot of experience with codereview, but isn't that what it's for? constructive blasting
 
user3956566
@AshishAhujaツ yes I posted it in charcoal, the script I'm using posts it in both chat rooms.
 
hiya
 
11:48 AM
hiya
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao hi
 
@Yvette Hi! Long time, How have you been?
 
@Yvette Which script are you using? Could you provide me a link?
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao good love, how are you?
 
@Yvette Just the same, Enjoying life :)
 
user3956566
11:51 AM
@BhargavRao ah that's good. I've been busy working and with kids
 
It feels good to be busy.
 
user3956566
yes just that right amount
 
Yup, My holidays started, So I signed up for a new project just to keep myself busy.
 
user3956566
ah good, what doing?
 
Some meta-meta research. Researching patterns in general research.
 
user3956566
11:55 AM
nice
 
So far so good, Working on the data collection atm.
 
user3956566
that's good
 
@Adriaan nah, not Java
 

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