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2:53 AM
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10:24 AM
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sigh...
that is normal behavior of chat @Closey
 
@rene Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
You made that very clear ...
 
Sam
@rene I'll check that out later.
 
@Sam Ok
 
10:29 AM
morning all
 
Sam
Morning
 
Morning
 
10:46 AM
Close this one as 'Debug code' with no code ?
 
 
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11:50 AM
Good morning
 
Plop!
 
Sam
12:18 PM
@rene I couldn't repo the bug...
I guess I'll have to run Closey locally.
 
JAL
12:57 PM
Morning all
 
JAL
Help! I need an adult (mod)
I was revenge downvoted and the script didn't catch it
Hey Nathan
 
@JAL Just do a mod flag on one of the down voted post and explain what is going on.
 
JAL
Yeah, working on that now. I wanted to wait 48 hours just to see if the script would catch it
Thanks
I did one of those "while this code may answer the question" comments on some guy's regex only answer and he freaked, and downvoted and commented on a bunch of my old answers
like from 2013
 
np. I wonder if the 2 minute spacing helped to stop the script from catching it if it did all com from the same voter.
 
JAL
1:01 PM
can you see it on my profile?
 
the DV's? Yes
 
JAL
yeah
and the comments on those answers as well
all from the same person
 
Yeah definitely looks like revenge. I would include that the same user commented on those answers after you commented on one of his.
 
JAL
Yep flagged
Will let you know what happens
 
@JAL OTOH and out of the revenge part, your answers could be improved by giving some context/explanation to them.
 
JAL
1:11 PM
Yes, I agree some of them are poor answers. They are from when I first started using SO
two of them have already been deleted. They probably would have stayed untouched if this guy's comments and edits didn't bring the post back up to the front page.
 
@JAL That's the occasion to improve them, it's never too late :)
FWIW, the whole question sounds at best a dupe, at least a non answerable one if OP can't change the regex anyway.
 
JAL
Which question?
This is where everything started, I think after that comment Roman went and downvoted all of my old answers.
Either way, I wasn't the one who downvoted. I just add that comment whenever I see a code-only answer in the review queue.
 
1:29 PM
concurrent edit, reject please: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/9984838
 
JAL
rejected
 
boom
 
thanks
 
JAL
lol can't wait to see the hate on that question
@Tunaki or POB
 
or anything, it just needs to be closed real fast
 
JAL
1:35 PM
boom'd
 
1:47 PM
Holy shit, I saw that question at -18
daaamn
 
JAL
lol
 
@JAL boom
 
JAL
nice thanks
I'm thinking about asking a meta question "Are answers that aggregate information from other SO answers NAA?" with this answer as an example: stackoverflow.com/a/33106697/2415822
thoughts?
 
Room Owners (@rene, @gunr2171, @durron597), is there any official SOCVR rule/guideline/etc about closing old questions (as in date of posting > 1 year for example)? Is it linked to activity, views, spam magnetism, ..?
So far I have applied "Don't bother with old questions unless they are active".
@JAL It is definitely an answer
 
JAL
@Kyll so what I've seen is that when people cv-pls post old questions they also make a comment about how it is attracting new (and bad) answers
@Kyll why? IMO the question should have been marked as a duplicate if it has been answered elsewhere on SO
 
1:53 PM
@JAL Because it answers the question. It might blatantly plagiarize, be wrong, stupid, or not even need to exist because the question is a duplicate, but it is an answer
 
@Kyll not yet, but I believe the CM's rather see that we focus on fresh content. In burination efforts that rule is hard to maintain so I would try to find a middle ground
the active part makes sense
 
@Kyll form what I have seen if it is older than 6 months old then leave it alone unless it is attracting new activity.
 
@JAL AFAIK NAA should be reserved for either stuff that make no sense whatsoever ("asdfasdfasdf") or blatant non-answers ("you should go outside")
 
"you should use Linux instead" could actually be an answer
 
JAL
not this again
lol
 
1:56 PM
@Tunaki Now we can all agree that what I have put into parenthesis is not the answer to any issue, ever
> Please refer attached screenshot
There is no screenshot.
 
JAL
lol
Now you guys can actually post your opinions, if you feel so strongly
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Q: Are answers that aggregate information from other questions on StackOverflow NAA?

JALThis answer to this bounty question is a collection of other answers from questions previously asked on StackOverflow. To me, answers that post links or information from other SO questions are NAA, because the question should be flagged as a duplicate if the question has already been asked and a...

 
@Kyll NAA is also valid for Link-only answers as wells as answers used to (say thanks, me too, ask new question, comment on posts).
 
@JAL I could swear that was brought up in a meta post already. Can't find it right now though.
 
JAL
If you find it let me know, I'll close my question as a dupe
 
If it's an attempt at answering the question, it's an answer
Simple
 
2:08 PM
@JAL meh.. I gave up. I went back a month and couldn't find it.
 
JAL
Thanks for checking Nathan
Fair enough @Cerbrus
 
88
Q: Is it okay to copy-paste answers from other questions?

Joseph MasteyThis one leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth, but I defer to others as to whether it is appropriate or not. In this question, I wrote an answer to a question based on my experiences; it was upvoted and accepted, woo. Now, today, in response to a different — but related — question, someone has...

 
JAL
I still think that answer does not add any value, but I guess in that case I should just downvote and move on
oh nice @Mogsdad
but it was on meta, not meta SO
 
@JAL I'm not saying the answer adds value
I'm saying it's not "Not an answer"
A answer can still be crap, but that doesn't make it "NAA"
 
JAL
fair
 
2:12 PM
@Mogsdad Oh yes. It also took me a while to understand that "link-only" does not include "check this about SolutionClass [link]" since there is at least a piece of data in it
 
JAL
289
Q: Your answer is in another castle: when is an answer not an answer?

Shog9I think we can all agree, this sucks: If you've been around a little while, you've probably encountered hundreds of answers like this in various forums, some of them even marked as "The Answer" by well-meaning1 forum admins looking to close a thread. We could try to enumerate the commonly-obse...

 
A picture should be added on that one thread about NAA, with a guy handing you a rotten piece of apple and pointing to the apple store, saying "VLQ"
 
JAL
lol
 
Since a fairly large amount of answers match the description
 
@Kyll I've had many NAA flags approved on answers that had scant info + a link. I believe the measure is whether the answer would provide help if the link was broken. In the example you've just given, mentioning "SolutionClass" might stand on its own, which would make it an answer.
 
2:15 PM
Which is exactly what Patrick Hofman said in his answer on the apple NAA.
@Mogsdad Got it
Is there any chat shortcut to clear notifications/pings?
 
2:32 PM
@Tunaki Well isn't it a dupe then?
 
not technically
basically, there are no canonical answer to this question
so there are a lot of specific answers that all come down to the same thing you can't workaround
 
@Tunaki Make one and then Mjölnir the hell outta the dupes?
 
don't have a gold badge on this tag but it could be a nice idea yeah
 
Mhh... I'm bored by :
> This is not an answer and will be brutally terminated as such.
Let's find a replacement...
 
Talking about what is NAA and not NAA, this is a good example
 
2:39 PM
@Tunaki Full quote for later retrieval:
> :D :D m:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
> This does not seem to be an answer. We don't like answers that are not answers. Prepare for termination.
 
 
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JAL
3:44 PM
Follow up to those playing at home (@NathanOliver, etc.) I was actually getting revenge downvoted, flag marked as helpful.
 
@JAL Cool
 
JAL
Thanks for the help
> This account is temporarily suspended for voting irregularities. The suspension period ends on Dec 25 at 15:30.
Sweet sweet karma
 
wow 2 months. Looks like they wanted to make sure the user doesn't do that again.
 
2 months is nothing!
 
JAL
Maybe they had a history of doing it?
 
3:49 PM
YCS was suspended for like 1.5 years
 
@TylerH Really? Wow
 
yep
he was suspended when I joined and only recently became unsuspended in the last month or two
 
It was one year, judging from his answer timeline:
Jun 25 at 8:06
Jun 19 '14 at 15:36
But still, that's a lot...
 
Sooooo many pent-up tag edits
 
lol
 
user4639281
4:05 PM
This one is dying rather quickly
 
I kind of want to ask the question "Can someone point me to a tutorial for building a tool to find programming resources?" just to see how fast it would die
 
user4639281
That would be interesting.
 
if you do, please tag it at least java, c, php,
 
@TylerH Too few spelling and grammar mistakes, and not enough "I try all week" and "omg pls halp"
 
maybe throw python in
 
4:10 PM
@Tunaki and c# and c++
 
we need to target separate communities, I think too much guys follow both C, C++
 
@TylerH Also, to "the best" tutorial for that :P
 
If you want it to be upvoted before it gets closed don't forget to add
2
 
user4639281
So I just found this question, which used opinion-based wording, but I edited it. It may be too broad, but I'm not going to touch it. Anyway, directly following that question I stumple upon this question.
 
@TinyGiant CV'ed both :)
 
user4639281
4:12 PM
lol
 
JAL
lol
 
The first one is no MCVE, the second is asking for an off-site resource, so... why lol? If you post an off-topic question here, it gets closed. ^^
 
user4639281
It just amazes me because sometimes you can have 20 different questions on the same random topic within a short period of time in the JavaScript tag.
 
@TinyGiant Or you can have a few hundred thousand about why the return value is undefined how callbacks work :P
 
user4639281
@Siguza I wasn't sure about the first one, the question is asked in such a way that it shouldn't need an MCVE, that's why I said it might be too broad.
 
user4639281
4:14 PM
@Siguza Yeah... that one.
 
user4639281
Another javascript pdf question just rolled in.
 
@TinyGiant OP says their result is blurry and they don't want it blurry...
 
user4639281
But the question is how to do the thing, while not corrupting the image.
 
@TinyGiant everyone is in class and SOing help for their homework while sitting in class ;)
 
JAL
@NathanOliver hey, that's the only reason I ever asked a Lisp question :P
 
4:16 PM
lol
 
user4639281
They didn't include what they've tried, but that isn't required for non-debugging style questions. If the OP isn't asking for debugging but rather how to do it with the requirement of not having a problem with corruption when printing.
 
user4639281
That said, I would have said thought too broad.
 
user4639281
But as I don't have specific knowledge of the library in use, I can't say how broad the question really is.
 
JAL
Here come the bad, upvoted answers... stackoverflow.com/questions/33350427/…
 
@TinyGiant Zhu Lee! Do the thing!
sorry, Legend of Korra memories...
 
4:21 PM
@TinyGiant Or maybe the system is trying to feed you new tags, "Oooh maybe TinyGiant will like a firestorm of useless PDF rendering questions now!"
 
@TylerH never apologize for Avatar memories
 
user4639281
@TylerH Manga reference?
 
user4639281
@Kyll lol
 
@TinyGiant The anime show
I've never read a manga
 
user4639281
Ahh, I've never head of it until right now.
 
4:23 PM
:O
 
Actually never watched it neither
 
are you familiar with Avatar: The Last Airbender?
 
user4639281
Yeah
 
Legend of Korra is the same show, but ~60 years after
the animation quality is superb
especially as the show continues
 
user4639281
^^ It's android so it is in danger of getting upvoted.
 
user4639281
4:34 PM
Another javascript pdf question...
 
4:58 PM
@NathanOliver hey
 
i have attached some images
 
@SmokeDetector @tpu-
 
@underscore I saw that. This is not the place to discuss such things. If I can get back to it I will. There was another commenter that said he was going to explain in his answer So i was waiting to see that.
 
^ is a tool recommendation an answer to a programming question?
 
5:17 PM
@PaulRoub Don't put the @ in front of the tpu; it doesn't register the command then.
 
@ProgramFOX Argh. I know better. And that's twice today.
 
!!/blame
 
@NathanOliver It's inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M's fault.
 
@theB please do not feed that user on MSE
 
5:34 PM
@NathanOliver Find a dupe of how loops work in c#?
 
Gotta love RTFM questions... Q: I'm reinventing the wheel, here's my dumb idea... Answers: Here's another dumb idea... I had to step in with "Have you heard of the wheel? Here it is..." stackoverflow.com/q/33343338/1677912
 
lol
@Siguza not sure. I tink they need to know what a loop is and what increment does. I just VTC as too broad.
 
@SmokeDetector hehe, "too long on unzip" ...how old am I?
 
@rene - its deleted. I thought better of expressing frustration. I still do feel a bit pissed on by the whole thing.
 
5:48 PM
sure, I understand. But I already raised several flags without a sign that the user would stop. There are a lot of comments removed there....
 
JAL
lol that drama tag
 
that was hard to find
^ just posting so someone can find it faster to fix it
 
@Mogsdad Seems like you skipped the wheel and pointed them straight to the rocket
 
@gunr2171 Fixed just before I saw that.
 
5:55 PM
no worries
 
hehe pseudo rebellion
 
Today is a great day. I'm actually in a cubicle, in a quiet office, and multiple monitors. This is the best.
I'm not even mad that my monitors are 1024 high
 
no conference room?
 
@TylerH Well, maybe a chariot.
 
no! amazing!
also haven't taken lunch yet. I should get on that.
 
5:57 PM
my secondary monitor is 1280x1024
my main one is 1440x900 :-(
 
:( the monitors on my actual desk are 3, 1920x1080 (or maybe the 19:10 ratio, can't remember)
 
Both of mine are 1440x900
 
@TylerH Muhahaha, 2x 2560x1440 here :D
 
@Siguza nice
 
@Siguza so you're saying that your monitor is a high as Tyler's monitor is long.
 
5:59 PM
@gunr2171 I guess so...
 
well, I'm out for a bit
 
at home I have two 1080s, a 23" and a 21.5"
unfortunately here they are wanting to move as many people as possible to laptops
 
But just think, there are people with a 4K out there...
 
which I'd get behind, if they would let me choose the Surface Pro 3 as my laptop...
 
@PaulRoub didn't we have that same fight a couple of days back?
 
6:04 PM
@rene yes
 
JAL
6:16 PM
Anyone want to do their reviews now?
@Closey alive?
 
@JAL I'm alive and kicking!
 
JAL
@Closey starting
 
@JAL Don't get lost in the queue!
 
JAL
@Closey next 15 tags
 
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JAL
6:17 PM
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JAL
must have timed out
 
@JAL why so many tags
 
JAL
Just like to see what's available
 
@Mogsdad Do you need you tags looked at when I do my CVRQ?
 
6:22 PM
@NathanOliver That would be nice. (google-apps-script+google-spreadsheet+google-apps)
 
Will do.
 
JAL
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I'm surprised to see 125 for still, I think that was the number last week. When does Closey get updated?
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@Mogsdad Good luck!
 
6:29 PM
@Mogsdad I dbelieve it is whenever the SEDE is
 
@NathanOliver ... that should be Sunday night.
 
I will spend all mine in database today as well
hopefully that will clear some up
 
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@NathanOliver Happy reviewing!
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad There is some extra caching apparently.
 
6:38 PM
Alright folks, I'm off, gotta do some sport every once in a while
 
passed php audit
 
have a good one everyone
 
later. have fun
 
@Siguza Isn't this sport?
 
JAL
Is this question too broad? stackoverflow.com/q/25127382/2415822
(attracting new answers btw)
 
6:39 PM
passed string audit
 
JAL
lol
string tag? really?
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[google-docs] [google-spreadsheet] [google-apps-script]"
 
oops should have used bash instead. I just went with the first tag
 
@Mogsdad loled
Now - even though you've redacted your secrets, they've been compromised, and are still available in the question history. You should cancel them, and get new ones. — Mogsdad Oct 19 at 14:55
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [google-apps-script] [google-spreadsheet] [google-apps]"
 
6:50 PM
passed c# audit
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Woot
 
passed c++ audit.
 
I'm going to remove that star in 2 hours, for the record
just to keep it clean
 
funny thing was it was a question that I have the highest voted and accepted answer on.
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6:55 PM
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6:57 PM
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Am I missing the point here:
I don't understand what will scale? The number of review items you get? If so, that is kind of point less if I have no close votes, flags or votes left, which often is the case now for me. — rene 37 secs ago
 
7:24 PM
what do you think? tool req? stackoverflow.com/questions/6425656/…
 
@cimmanon it's nowhere near that specific. :-)
 
@cimmanon Do we really need to close it? There hasn't been an modified in a while.
 
@NathanOliver just asking
 
Oh okay. My gut says too broad.
 
JAL
^ should I roll that back?
 
user4639281
7:32 PM
@cimmanon Unclear - POB
 
JAL
and flag for self-vandalism?
 
@JAL No flag needed. You only need to flag if they do it again. I added a comment asking the user not to deface their question. That and the edit rollback should be all it needs.
 
user4639281
You don't even need to flag if they do it again, because the second time should raise an auto-flag.
 
Mod flags are really only for things we mere mortals cannot handle.
@TinyGiant only if they roll back the rollback I thought. If they just do a manual edit that wont be picked up.
 
user4639281
I believe it just has to have two rollbacks in a short period of time, they don't necessarily have to be back-to-back
 
user4639281
7:36 PM
I could be wrong on that though. It would seem stupid that the user could avoid it by not rolling back.
 
here we go:
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Q: Is defacing own posts worth a mod flag?

KyllSome users engage in destructive behaviours against their own post(s). They may want to dissociate the post(s) and their account or are simply going in frustrated rampage. This kind of defacing is generally very quickly noticed by users (and bots) and cancelled in the next few seconds with a rol...

@TinyGiant AFAIK the auto flag requires a rollback on a rollback but I could be wrong too.
 
user4639281
It all depends on the definition of "rollback war", if that includes edits followed by rollbacks or not.
 
user4639281
I smell a question "What is the formulaic representative definition of 'Rollback War'?" brewing.
 
I've seen multiple low-quality answers referring to "Long Path Tool" today, not always the same user. (No pattern that I've picked up yet, other than common wording.) Example. Has anyone else been seeing these?
 
yup :)
 
7:46 PM
Yeah. I think it is a spam ring starting up
 
That one was an audit, it turned out, a couple of weeks old.
 
user4639281
Does it count as a rollback war (raise an auto-flag) in the following scenario? User vandlizes post → other user rolls back the edit → user edits their post to vandalizes again (not a rollback) → other user rolls back the edit again. — Tiny Giant 26 secs ago
 
hopefully you get a response.
 
@TinyGiant We went through this a while back, I recall. I think our rollbacks are enough to trigger the 'bot, even if the OP is editing their post to abuse us and our wives.
 
user4639281
That's what I thought, but I just want something concrete.
 
user4639281
7:50 PM
Thanks @JonClements
 
And now I know.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad And that's my last cv before the queue
 
user4639281
@rene Rejected and edited by patrick hoffman
 
7:52 PM
tnx
 
user4639281
np
 
@Mogsdad There were a few questions that I boomed from your tags when I went through the queue. I did wind up running out of item to review in it.
 
@NathanOliver Thanks! If you're ever looking for more, try google-form+google-api, there are probably dozens there.
 
Okay.
reject pls stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/9988919 the user fixed typos that may or may not be in the OP's code.
 
same meta context
 
user4639281
8:01 PM
@rene Approved
 
tnx
 
thanks guys
 
8:18 PM
later guys
 
user4639281
cya
 
8:49 PM
@TinyGiant why do you have your own "canonical" when we have several that are much older than that?
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Installing now... :D
 
user4639281
@cimmanon Because the existing "canonicals" 1. have a bunch of question baggage to go along with them that is unnecessary for the concept, and 2. none of the answers really explain everything in as much detail as I would like.
 
@TinyGiant you know how to edit.
 
user4639281
Yeah, but editing the question to remove the baggage would deviate from the intent, and editing the answer to reflect my explanation would again be deviating from the authors intent.
 
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8:54 PM
@TylerH May Shog9's Will be done.
 
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