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12:00 AM
@Siguza wat
 
@Siguza - That works too.
 
@Kyll Awesome! "What is an object plus an object? Right, it's not a number!"
 
@Siguza Yeah. That talk is a killer
 
user4639281
Ahh, but an object plus an array is zero.
 
Actually it's because {} + {} not "object plus object"
The first {} is an empty operation block
 
12:07 AM
"NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN Batman!" xD
 
And +{} is the unary operator + applied to an object, + converting to a number (+'5' === 5)
So it's NaN
 
I know how it works
 
But since JS is reaaaally cool and relax with its operators and implicit conversions it doesn't crash in your face but tries to make some sense of the inputs given
 
Yeah, that's the problem
same with PHP
they try so hard to make reason of the nonsense you've written
they keep going, even when half your code base is on fire
 
Hahaha
 
12:10 AM
I mean, come on, when include 'config.php' fails, your code has failed. Ofc there's require, but why does include even exist in the first place?
 
user4639281
Or try catch blocks, cause we really want to keep on going after the first half of the script has caught on fire.
 
That's why I like fail-fast
I mean, consider a bash script like:

cd /some/path;
rm -rf .;
 
I know PHP so much I don't know the difference between require and include
 
if the cd fails, the rm does something completely different
@Kyll If require fails, it produces an error, include only a warning.
Imagine running that script as root in /.
 
@Siguza That's the only difference?
 
12:14 AM
Afaik, yes.
> require is identical to include except upon failure it will also produce a fatal E_COMPILE_ERROR level error. In other words, it will halt the script whereas include only emits a warning (E_WARNING) which allows the script to continue.
 
user4639281
@Siguza I love that Linux allows you to delete /
 
How about rm -rf $var1/$var2 with bad parameter handling?
 
@theB Even better example than mine, gotta remember that
 
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@theB dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
 
I think I saw that one on the daily wtf
 
12:16 AM
@TinyGiant When you meant "sdb" ^^
 
@TinyGiant Instructions unclear, computer getting real hot and drive spinning out of control
 
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@Siguza Yup
 
user4639281
@Kyll No, that wouldn't happen, it would just stop working.
 
Dang, I should work on my Linux fu
 
user4639281
But, before it stopped working it would wipe your boot loader.
 
12:17 AM
@TinyGiant I only once managed to eject my boot drive on Mac instead of the external one (because that day, "disk1" was what usually is "disk3")... don't ask me how my system kept running, but it did
 
user4639281
Yeah, you want to see some people run? Force root to logout on a remote server.
 
@TinyGiant There should be a kernel check for that, right? Like "you can't mean that".
 
user4639281
Nah, Linux assumes you know what you're doing, and if it is wrong the only person it makes an a$$ out of is you.
 
alias vim=rm -f
 
user4639281
ha
 
12:20 AM
@theB Not everyone uses vim... try cd
 
user4639281
I still love this one
 
@TinyGiant Honestly though, if someone said that to me in real life, I'd do it simply because they're awesome ^^
 
user4639281
Lol, I'm going to start using that when people dispute my cv requests
 
user4639281
sudo cv-pls
 
user4639281
12:25 AM
unzip;strip;touch;grep;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;unmount;sleep
 
user4639281
^^ Those are all actual Linux commands.
 
Throw a cat in the middle of that...
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
cat;sed;yes
 
...why is there a yes command?
Like... wat?
 
@theB But whyyy?
 
@Siguza Obviously, because yes yes yes
 
@Siguza No idea.
 
user4639281
It's for commands that require input.
 
user4639281
it simply repeats whatever argument you give it to every input that is shown.
 
user4639281
12:36 AM
So if you want to make an interactive program not require input, just use yes.
 
user4639281
> % man: why did you get a divorce?
> man:: Too many arguments.
 
@TinyGiant Those are awesome
 
user4639281
inorite?
 
diorite?
 
user4639281
12:45 AM
lol
 
user4639281
I will not.
 
user4639281
telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
 
user4639281
^^ Pretty cool
 
Ah jeez, that ASCII star wars again...
 
user4639281
Lol
 
12:51 AM
Who did that in the first place? Who has time for that?
 
user4639281
Don't try this at home: :(){ :|:& }:
 
user4639281
Notice I explicitly said not to try that at home, so if you try it at home it aint my fault.
 
There's a Minecraft mod called ComputerCraft, which also includes it, I once watched the entire thing there
 
user4639281
ahh
 
Wow... ASCII animations. I wish I had that kind of time/patience.
 
user4639281
1:01 AM
Yeah
 
So...we have winter time now
Or how is it called in English?
What's the opposite of daylight savings time?
 
standard time
 
Well that's... ambiguous.
Alright, I'll be off for today
cya guys
 
user4639281
cya
 
later
 
1:17 AM
Oh
Nice
Thought I'd go to sleep at 3am and be tired as crap tomorrow, but now thanks to magic it's 2am. Bonne nuit!
 
1:57 AM
anyone still around?
 
user4639281
2:08 AM
for a minute nvm gotta run.
 
good night.
 
user4639281
cya
 
2:28 AM
Good night closey
 
 
2 hours later…
4:28 AM
@Closey starting
 
@approxiblue Good luck!
 
passed php audit
passed c++ audit
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 19 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@approxiblue Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@approxiblue Your last completed review session ended 14 seconds ago and lasted 11 minutes and 8 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 16 seconds.
 
4:43 AM
@Closey bye
 
@approxiblue Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
 
 
4 hours later…
8:28 AM
Passed a @TinyGiant audit...
 
8:46 AM
Funny Question...
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33325302/lua-scripting-get-rgb-at-point-logitech
and no body bothers to help that guy to fix his keyboard and " get the rgb value at certain points by writing a Lua script for a Logitech device"
 
I did help with an extra close vote...
 
 
1 hour later…
10:07 AM
How can one request moderator attention?
 
@Eugene you can flag a question
 
Flaged
And I assume I'm not the only one.
 
OK, do I need to take a look?
 
16
A: Stop Google chrome auto fill the input

Roy M JAre you explicitly setting the values as blank? For example: <input type="text" name="textfield" value=""> That should stop browsers putting data in where it shouldn't. Alternatively, you can add the autocomplete attribute to the form tag: <form autocomplete="off" ...></form>

If you can.
There are three duplicates proposed.
Which seem to be valid.
 
Morning all
 
10:20 AM
Morning
 
Morning
Did we sync our watches? DST started ....
 
@rene Time doesn't exist on Sundays :)
 
10:42 AM
@JonClements +1
 
In the end, it was the Sunday afternoons he couldn't cope with, and that terrible listlessness which starts to set in at about 2:55, when you know that you've had all the baths you can usefully have that day, that however hard you stare at any given paragraph in the papers you will never actually read it...
... , or use the revolutionary new pruning technique it describes, and that as you stare at the clock the hands will move relentlessly on to four o'clock, and you will enter the long dark teatime of the soul.
(Good old Douglas Adams)
 
11:21 AM
Is there a known bug in audits of questions you already flagged? complaint here
 
11:35 AM
Good morning all. Could I get someone to look at this review and tell me whether I am applying too high of a standard? I rejected the tag edit because it didn't remove the good morning and thanks, or format the code included, but I was the only reject.
 
@theB I would have clicked "reject and edit". Doesn't remove noise, doesn't fix formatting, and the tag edits aren't that great either.
 
I agree with Siguza, "Reject And Edit" for me also
 
I would have added the tag , but rather instead of (imo useless)
 
@Siguza - That was my thought. I just made that exact set of edits on the question, but I suppose that Reject and Edit would have been a better option.
 
@theB I think so.
Does the author of a suggested edit get notified when their edit is rejected?
 
11:44 AM
I don't believe so. They see that they didn't get their +2, and have to look at the review.
 
There is no notification. The only way to see if your edit was rejected is by going to "All actions > Suggestions" on your profile page
 
Ah fuuu
They should get notified -.-
Then "Reject & Edit" isn't as helpful as I though it was
 
Well they don't get notified of a +2
 
But at least with reject and edit, the review has a note from community saying that the edit was wrong, and to look at the revision history.
 
and, it keeps robo-reviewers from accepting the said edit afterwards
 
11:47 AM
@Tunaki Or an OP who has no idea...
 
@Siguza I used to always watch the reviews of my edits
Dat feeling when you made the right answer, you know you made the right one, and
> Excellent answer, thank you very much, I struggled to find clarity online but didn't go to the source, good call.
 
@Kyll Dat feeling when you get a +250 bounty
I should answer more bounty questions...
It's on the Android tag, so it's almost certainly plagiarism. — Martin James 2 days ago
lol
 
12:08 PM
@rene you may wish to consider updating your MSO anaswer to include that you can now click on the "declined" categories to filter them more easily
 
just done that @JonClements thanks
 
@Jon Should I flag 1:1 plagiarised answers from 2010?
 
@Siguza example?
 
@JonClements Original vs. Copycat (ok, the copy is actually from 2011)
(I basically found this SEDE query)
 
Yeah... notice it's also in this question - kind of looks like it's from an external resource and not attributed - then copied about within SO
If you can across stuff like that naturally - then yeah, feel free to flag 'em - make sure to show all the research you can as well... The queue's quite large at the moment though - so if you're going to use SEDE and flood it with 4/5 year old stuff that's not urgent - it isn't going to be useful :p
 
12:20 PM
Alright
Ah, now I remember why I don't like bounty questions - they're usually off-topic -.-
 
Here's an earlier question that's almost the same.
 
@Siguza I'm still working on that inclusion of the on-hold cycle on bounty questions feature request
 
@Kyll As in this request?
 
12:36 PM
@Siguza Kind of, but different
Actually allow to put the question on-hold. If the question is not reopened after k days (say, 3), refund the bounty
Keep the on-hold bounty on the "bounties" pages so that it can draw extra attention from editors and reopeners
In case of close war, as usual, bring in Meta and/or a moderator
afk
 
12:49 PM
@TinyGiant {Java}[C#] is not intended to be used by humans. It was written by {sun}[microsoft] to be used by robots to write other robots in order to take over the planet and hook us all up to machines to be used as a power source while our minds are hooked into a virtual reality simulation without our knowledge. What exactly is the point? — Oleg yesterday
 
^ Both boomed
 
@SmokeDetector why?
 
@Siguza Body - Position 2180-2184: Porn
 
lol
 
> { content: "Porn Name"; }
 
1:01 PM
"Wars of Trek" - If I ever start a band, that's going to be our name
 
1:26 PM
Me need example
 
2:08 PM
@SmokeDetector why?
 
@Siguza There is no why data for that post (anymore).
 
...?
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 7 mins ago, by rene
it find that because of this regex I assume: r"sourceforge\.net[\w/]*convert",
 
Ah, ok
Good. Down with SF! >:D
 
My regex fu is non-existent and I like to keep it that way...
 
2:27 PM
@Cupcake "syntax error" is not a valid close reason... people can ask about why they're getting syntax errors on SO...
 
i wish "read the goddamn error message" was a valid close reason: stackoverflow.com/questions/33313983/… :p
 
@cimmanon True. RTFM should also be one.
 
@Siguza I assume we mean a simple typographical error ...
 
@Siguza sometimes the manual is just not helpful, though.
 
@rene It's not a typo if it's intentional, but just not valid...
 
2:32 PM
? this not my day, I guess...
 
@cimmanon Yes, but it happens more that the manual is crystal clear, but the user just didn't even try to look it up
 
oh i agree
 
Am I over sensitive if I find this rude?
 
Not really rude, imo
Though not particularly constructive
 
@rene Justified at most... although not constructive
 
sensitivity adjusted...
 
Jeez, and the 7k rep user who went turd polishing...
 
3:13 PM
Seems like a bit of an overreact edit. ALL CAPS -> all lower case?
 
@theB I would've added <sub> as well >:D
But that would still be turd polishing
 
That much capslock makes me think of this "CAPS LOCK IS HOW I FEEL INSIDE RICK"
 
I just wanna go to the place these people live and scream at them as loud as I can.
Because I can scream loud.
 
OH GOD PLEASE HELP ME MY HOMEWORK IS DUE TOMORROW BRO
 
@Tunaki TOO BAD FOR YOU BRO MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A [insert most offensive word you know here]
 
4:08 PM
@Unihedron boom
 
\o/
 
\m/
 
This came up in the H&I queue - is it worth salvaging, or am I polishing a turd?
 
Hi @TGMCians
 
hey @rene what's up
 
4:10 PM
H&I is all about turd polishing anyway
3
 
@theB I would say not worth polishing
 
^agree
 
^
 
@TGMCians I'm enjoying my sunday, how are you doing?
 
@rene same listening romantic, nice songs.. totally enjoying :D
 
4:11 PM
Thanks
 
Hm, I'm currently listenening "Relaxing Piano Studio Ghibli Complete Collection"
Sounds like sunday is the day to listen to calm and nice songs
 
I'm just watching a "Life is Strange" playthrough...
 
voted
@rene i'm here :p
 
:D
 
i'm playing hide & seek game with you. you are seeking me there & i'm here :D hahahaha
 
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4:54 PM
@NisseEngström I'm honored
 
Thank you for this incredibly valuable reply. I didn't know asking for a possible approach was forbidden on this website. Moreover, I think it isn't. — Salvi 11 mins ago
Question boils down to "How to save data from a database on the client in JS and retrieve it later"
 
hi
 
5:09 PM
Plop!
 
If a user suggests an edit where they modify the code, which reject reason is better: "clearly conflicts with author's intent" or "attempt to reply"? Example: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/9975560
 
@honk If it's a "fix" -> attempt to reply, otherwise -> conflicts with author's intent
So in this case, I'd say "conflicts with author's intent"
 
user4639281
I would say attempt to reply looking at that comment.
 
I would have said attempt to reply
 
I went with "conflicts"
Well, both fit
 
5:14 PM
Hm, you're right... both fit in this case
Yeah, it's about "good practice"... probably attempt to reply, my bad
 
user4639281
nvm
 
Ok, got it. Thanks!
 
What's the right close reason for this?
 
@Kyll Your comment is kinda offensive
 
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@Kyll The answer is that day has 25 hours
 
5:21 PM
@Siguza I meant to be offensive toward DST
 
But I'd go with a custom reason "is not about programming, but time."
 
Well, if you can be offensive toward a concept
 
@Kyll "common sense issue" sounds like you're trying to make the OP look stupid to me...
 
@Siguza Oh. Not what I wanted! How could I rephrase this?
Better?
 
Yup
there
^ Oh wow, both gone already?
 
5:26 PM
I actually got to one before Tunaki!
 
lol, I love how that user left the question mark in the title
like "asdasdasdasdasd?" - "hodor hodor? hodor hodor hodor!"
 
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While I don't think either of the close reasons used are correct, I do not think that the problem has been accurately described (as has been pointed out by @Siguza repeatedly). Please edit your question to better describe the problem that you want to handle, and the expected outcome. — Tiny Giant 35 secs ago
 
@TinyGiant I believe we should vote on a question the way it is, and not the way we think it should be. As it stands, the question is asking "is moment.js lying, or am I stupid", to which my response is: "no, that's just how time works".
 
user4639281
Well that is an answer.
 
user4639281
I fail to see how it is not an answerable programming question.
 
user4639281
5:33 PM
You could answer by saying something along the lines of "No, today has 25 hours because of X" where X is the reason that today has 25 hours.
 
@TinyGiant The problem has nothing to do with programming, but understanding how DST works... their entire code is irrelevant to the problem
 
user4639281
Well, currently the question is asking if the software library is lying to him.
 
You know what, let's just find a canonical dupe target for DST questions and be done with it
 
user4639281
Now that I could agree with.
 
@Siguza - Something like this?
 
5:40 PM
@theB perfect
 
user4639281
Except it wasn't closed as a dupe lol.
 
Yup... we'd need to reopen and re-close
Only that we can't vote again...
We don't have anyone with a golden JS tag badge here, do we?
 
user4639281
Not yet.
 
user4639281
I'm just under three quarters my silver badge
 
@TinyGiant Three quarters? Isn't silver at 400?
 
user4639281
5:48 PM
Yeah
 
user4639281
I'm at 274
 
Ok, I have a different understanding of "just under" then
 
user4639281
3/4 of 400 === 300 26 points under that is just under is it not?
 
No, it is not but if you feel more comfortable calling it that way we are happy to oblige...
 
user4639281
Well fine then :P
 
6:36 PM
<-- fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
lol
 
Ninja'ed
 
At least we agree that it should be closed
@user2314737 I don't even... wat?
 
@user2314737 Wow. I didn't understand a thing the question was speaking about, and the title made it even weirder
 
I did something wrong .. I don't know how to use shortcut keys nor how to quote a question correctly so that the title is shown
 
@Kyll lol, didn't even read that until now. Made me laugh out loud xD
 
user4639281
6:44 PM
@user2314737 pexil.org@serial.org <<< that was in the link section...
 
@user2314737 You need a little something for that \o/
 
user4639281
^^^ That's how you make fancy cv-pls requests.
 
@Kill yes the title is peculiar
 
Greasemonkey/Tampermonkey required
 
6:45 PM
With post title and stuff
Oh, and for it's [tag:cv-pls]
Also works with
@cimmanon boom
 
[tag:like this]
 
@user2314737 No space allowed. =D
 
I already avoided the question mark ok
wow
 
@Siguza , 60 guests!
 
6:48 PM
We can also do
@Kyll Ah for Christ's sake!
 
someone do my work for me ><
 
Do I get the pay?
 
there is no pay, its a personal project :p
 
@cimmanon Is there cookies involved?
 
i could send you a cookie recipe?
 
6:50 PM
@Kyll -.-
 
i am in the middle of a monumental rewrite of a data model that took me over a month to design in the first place
 
user4639281
 
@cimmanon That would need to be one hell of a nice recipe to get some help x)
 
@cimmanon If you're doing my math assignments for me, we could have a deal :P
 
@TinyGiant Should I?
 
6:52 PM
its written in haskell and ive already done the really hard part. now its just some cruft cleanup and making it pretty
 
@Kyll Depends. Do you wanna burn?
 
user4639281
@Kyll It would be a mistag, but I wouldn't say anything.
 
Then make the tag description of dog: "The opposite of god."
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
We already burned IIRC
 
user4639281
6:54 PM
Nope, nevermind, we did not.
 
still exists sadly 110qs
or would still exsits be better?
Actually that sounds like a bit of an existential crisis...
 
@theB That isn't a valid sentence, is it?
 
@Siguza As far as spider sentences go I'd say it's pretty good
 
I have heard the phrase before, but then I did live in Georgia for a while
 
user4639281
Still trying to figure out the meaning of "exsits"....
 
user4639281
6:58 PM
I've never heard "god dog it" before
 
@TinyGiant - Never heard it anywhere outside of a few places in the south
 
user4639281
^^ there you go, it's actually a work
 
user4639281
doggone
 
So I'm trying to understand this edit. I mean there's a new 'answer' but I don't see how the edit improves anything. Anyone got ideas?
 
user4639281
7:11 PM
@theB I saw absolutely nothing useful in that edit.
 
I was thinking because of that the disclaimer was entirely appropriate and justified.
 
lol faq-proposed, -19
 
user4639281
I still don't get the point of the edit at all. If I had seen it in the queue I would have thought it was an audit.
 
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