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8:16 PM
@TinyGiant So you know, your edit got rolled back.
and apparently rene is already on the case...
 
Just hold on @TinyGiant I try to find out in the comments from Francesco what his intents are
That is not going well btw...
 
user4639281
Yeah, I just saw that.
 
But I must say I see value in his edit
 
user4639281
I don't... Sure the original may not be amazing but his version is much harder to read.
 
But it might attract noise answers, like the most recent one
 
user4639281
8:19 PM
He pointed you to my rollback as an explanation of his rollback...
 
let's not all jump on the band wagon
 
Anyone would like to vote on those two synonyms suggestions?
I made them some time ago, but noone voted yet
 
did both, two errors, no boxing for me
 
Who the hell has score in those tags anyway?
Besides Jon Skeet, that is.
 
Lippert. (I give up on strikethrough)
 
8:25 PM
I do =D
 
I think I should have score in that....
 
user4639281
I has no score in those tags.
 
@theB Are you looking for strikethrough?
 
@Siguza sure was
 
---like this---
 
user4639281
8:26 PM
 
So my previous statement is: Lippert and Skeet
 
user4639281
My internet sucks, I sent that directly after your first try.
 
Wouldn't have tried that.
 
chat markdown is... @balpha-ed
 
user4639281
Isn't it markdown-mini?
 
8:31 PM
dunno
Maybe it is both...
 
user4639281
Thought I remembered reading something about that.
 
user4639281
@rene Well, I don't think that any "standard library" in use by Stack Overflow is "standard issue" per se.
 
user4639281
Maybe jQuery...
 
Oh, I can vote for this synonym request ->
How the hell did I get 5 score on this tag
 
user4639281
@Tunaki I don't know, it isn't logical.
 
8:34 PM
In my logic that is logical
 
user4639281
I'm not logical, so you see where that ends up.
 
user4639281
I don't think Francesco is coming back to that discussion for some reason.
 
Seems so
 
Shame, there may have been a good reason for it, and now we'll never know.
 
user4639281
Well, I edited it again. I added those tags because they are useful and highlighted the disclaimer.
 
@TinyGiant it probably raised a flag by now...
 
user4639281
Yeah, if he rolls it back I'll just leave it alone.
 
That wasn't intended to be sarcastic. @rene The disclaimer isn't needed; it's just noise. FAQ posts, like any other question, should not be hypothetical; they should address actual problems instead. I think the OP added that section so not to seem a newbie. — Francesco Menzani 41 secs ago
 
user4639281
I saw that.
 
not needed @theb we are on it
 
8:43 PM
Didn't know if you'd seen it or not. I'm trying to stay out of it. He doesn't need 10 people discussing it.
 
that is right, but one-boxing it here brings even more eyes on it.
 
bob
You really don't want to be encrypting passwords. You need to hash them, so passwords cannot be retrieved if the database is hacked. — bob 1 min ago
 
user4639281
Oh and I just realized that it may not have raised a mod flag, because the last rollback was actually an edit of the previous version.
 
bob
it really does astonish me how many developers think encrypting passwords in a database is a good idea..
 
This question is awesome: it is tagged
 
8:51 PM
@bob I think you kinda missed the point there. It's about transmission, not storage.
 
@Siguza Title
 
Ah hell
I take that back
 
But even so, OP shows a clear lack of knowledge that can be in the end dangerous to users
@Siguza You shouldn't, it may be about encryption over-the-wire
 
user4639281
Marked as duplicate by mr fred.
 
user4639281
I uhm, yeah that duplicate closure is horrible...
 
8:53 PM
@Kyll Too bad everyone who actually knows stuff is busy repwhoring on SO...
 
bob
my first ever WinForms app using an accounting system hashed passwords & encrypted usernames, and that was a just-for-fun program
 
Correction: you need to hash and salt them
 
Fear the rainbow
 
user4639281
Correction, you need to use butterflies.
 
bob
@TinyGiant or magic. magic is always the solution
 
user4639281
8:55 PM
Yes, you could use magic.
 
user4639281
But I should correct you by saying it is the "best" solution, not necessarily always "the" solution.
 
Woah
Someone suggested magic before @TinyGiant
 
user4639281
Gotta let someone else play the magic card every now and again.
 
bob
@Kyll using unicorns is an alternative
 
@TinyGiant Like the magic card?
 
8:57 PM
Jack Skinner is a the real magician around here
 
user4639281
@Siguza Of course, what other magic card would I mean?
 
user4639281
FAQ seriously?
 
Who knew there were 3 questions tagged
 
Does anyone with an Xml Parser at hand can try to parse the feed in this question? I tried XDocument.Parse and that worked...
 
@TinyGiant I don't know, maybe this one?
 
user4639281
9:02 PM
@rene I get no errors.
 
user4639281
@Siguza Hahaha
 
@rene - codebeautify.org/xmlviewer complains about prefix not bound to a namespace on <re:rank...
the full feed loads fine
 
OK, do you mind adding that as comments with the stack/parser you used?
 
The only problem I get when parsing the snippet is a error about the re prefix, but it's not a problem when I load the complete feed. For the test I used: codebeautify.org's XML viewer. When I wrap the snippet in the correct <feed> root tag it parses correctly. — theB 14 secs ago
done
Is there a list somewhere with the naked urls that get parsed into fancy things in chat like the comments?
 
@theB RO's mind
 
user4639281
9:12 PM
wait nvm, I misunderstood. Hold on
 
@Closey starting
 
@rene Good luck!
 
user4639281
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A: Which links and sites are handled specially in chat?

Juha SyrjäläThe current list of integrated (we call this onebox, or oneboxing, ala search engines) sites is: Stack Exchange sites: Questions / Answers / Users / Comments Stack Exchange Chat: Messages / Rooms / Bookmarked conversations Area 51 proposals Posts from the Stack Exchange blog, the Server Fault b...

 
@TinyGiant Perfect
 
user4639281
Your welcome.
 
9:15 PM
I love that XKCD comics are on the list of officially supported links.
 
So arbitrary links aren't oneboxed?
 
user4639281
@Siguza Nope
 
XKCD links too?
><
 
user4639281
http://xkcd.com/1586/
 
They lied to us.
 
user4639281
9:17 PM
No https
 
user4639281
only http
 
Ah
fuuu
Death to http
 
Deatch to it!
 
das fail >_<
 
user4639281
das not gut....
 
9:18 PM
viel shame
lol
Should I rather say "le fail"?
 
user4639281
lol
 
If you want to please me, go ahead
 
user4639281
9:33 PM
Gotta love the usernames that some users pick....
 
user4639281
> Clear question with examples
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 2 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 14 seconds ago and lasted 28 minutes and 4 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 42 seconds.
 
9:43 PM
@Closey next 5 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Kyll The next 5 tags are: 125, 84, 79, 73, 69
 
user4639281
@Closey starting
 
@TinyGiant May the Vote be with you!
 
Are those hard-coded or does Closey does some polling sometimes?
@Closey starting
 
@Kyll Sorry, I don't understand that. Use commands for a list of commands.
@Kyll May the Vote be with you!
 
user4639281
9:44 PM
It's a SEDE query IIRC.
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Yeah, it is (with a little extra caching for good measure).
 
user4639281
That's what I thought.
 
user4639281
passed scala audit
 
Sam
Rolled back.
 
passed C# audit
failed cat repelling, got to pet
 
user4639281
9:56 PM
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 2 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@TinyGiant Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
user4639281
@Closey last session stats
 
@TinyGiant Your last completed review session ended 14 seconds ago and lasted 12 minutes and 51 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 19 seconds.
 
passed C# audit
 
@rene - I found the problem with that feed. I have a suggested edit pending to fix the question and (assuming that it's accepted) I have an answer for the OP at that SE question.
 
10:02 PM
ah, that gets introduced by the SE-editor?
@theB That is a bug
 
@rene I think that it's a copy paste issue. It looks like the OP's - characters were not -es
 
this feed doesn't work in IE, or .net @theB
assuming your edit is still pending
So it kind of is a bug for SE. They need to properly encode that Unicode in their xml feed
 
Just got approved 3 min ago. But you're absolutely right their feed should be spitting out valid XML. Can you check the question feed again? (Should I hold off on putting an answer explaining the bug and the fix? What's the consensus?)
 
user4639281
I wonder why it didn't break anything for me?
 
If you used the feed in the MSE question that post was already flushed off the bottom.
 
10:13 PM
You need a question feed with those special chars in it
 
You have no more close votes today; come back in 1 hour.
@Closey end session
 
@Kyll I have forcefully ended your last session. To see more details use the command last session stats. In addition, the number of review items is most likely not set, use the command last session edit count <new count> to fix that.
 
@Closey last session edit count 36
 
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@Closey last session stats
 
10:13 PM
@Kyll Your last completed review session ended 32 seconds ago and lasted 29 minutes and 43 seconds. You reviewed 36 items, averaging a review every 49 seconds.
 
@Closey commands
 
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@Closey audit stats
 
@Kyll Stats of all tracked audits by tag:
 | Tag Name | %     | Count |
 |--------------------------|
 | C#       | 33.33 | 2     |
 | sql      | 16.67 | 1     |
 | c++      | 16.67 | 1     |
 | java     | 16.67 | 1     |
 | android  | 16.67 | 1     |
 
Not a single JS audit, the system is easy on me
 
10:16 PM
@Closey audit stats
 
@Siguza Stats of all tracked audits by tag:
 | Tag Name   | %     | Count |
 |----------------------------|
 | python     | 22.22 | 2     |
 | javascript | 11.11 | 1     |
 | ruby       | 11.11 | 1     |
 | c++        | 11.11 | 1     |
 | xml        | 11.11 | 1     |
 | java       | 11.11 | 1     |
 | c          | 11.11 | 1     |
 | mysql      | 11.11 | 1     |
 
hmmmmm
 
user4639281
@Kyll One of my posts was used as an audit last this morning.
 
I'm out for the day/night ...
 
user4639281
cya
 
10:16 PM
@TinyGiant Saw that, I would have failed. =p
 
@rene g'night
 
@Siguza He already dropped
 
user4639281
@Kyll Lol, you're kidding right?
 
@TinyGiant ... Yeah, sure. =p
 
@Kyll Well, he's gonna see it tomorrow then
 
user4639281
10:18 PM
Well, you wouldn't have been able to see it was mine or the score when reviewing it.
 
I would like feedback on my judgement of an answer, please avoid extended discussion or finger pointing : stackoverflow.com/a/33335369/4174897
To me that answer qualifies as crap/VLQ. What do you think?
 
user4639281
@Kyll It isn't either, just downvote.
 
user4639281
However, I don't think your comment there is particularly constructive.
 
user4639281
A simple "Stack Overflow is a Q&A site, and not a forum. Please refrain from treating it as such." would have sufficed.
 
@TinyGiant Mh, probably. I was surprised by the amount of rep of the answerer and thought it would be a good idea to remind him what an answer is. Probably a dumb move.
 
user4639281
10:24 PM
@Kyll All of their rep is from questions.
 
user4639281
Besides +10 from one upvote on one answer.
 
@TinyGiant You're mixing up OP and answerer I think
 
user4639281
Yes, yes I was.
 
11:15 PM
@Kyll I just think while your point is valid, your comment sounds borderline hostile again.
 
@Siguza The last sentence now seems quite so yes
 
But I really wish people would stop taking things so f'ing personally.
Get over your pride, especially when your contributions are crap.
-.-
 
How do you handle questions which are somewhat on-topic but which premises are completely wrong?
 
@Kyll Either lengthy answer or custom close reason I think.
Example?
 
I only have that one at the moment : stackoverflow.com/questions/27692020/…
 
user4639281
11:21 PM
gtg, have fun guys
 
See ya
Session is a client-side JS object, not something that is magically shared with the server
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Cya
 
@TinyGiant cya
 
An answer would require a debunk of what OP thinks Session is, a quick explanation of the way Meteor shares data, a quick presentation of Mongo collections and permissions
Overall, not too long but really useless to future visitors
And Session has nothing to do with HTTP session variables, Meteor decided to name it Session because naming is hard and being wrong is easy
 
As the question is almost a year old and has an upvoted and accepted answer, I'd say just let it be.
 
11:24 PM
... Wrong link lol
 
@Kyll Useless to future visitors? Like all those JS explanations on why the return value is undefined how callbacks work?
 
@Siguza Well, it's documented all over the place and there's dozens of tutorials about it
 
@Kyll Then find a dupe target.
 
@Siguza Haven't been successful in my search, and making a canonical reference for sharing data amongst clients would be waaay too broad
 
@Kyll Then downvote and move on.
After all, that's what the downvote button is for.
Either way I'm gonna pop off, need to get some sleep
cya guys
 
Sam
11:41 PM
Cya
 
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