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6:48 AM
Morning
 
Tim
It's so..orange.
 
@Tim Yeah
 
Damn, should have typed FIRST!!! instead.
 
Too long in meta ;p You forget what colour is
 
welcome!
 
Tim
6:50 AM
@MarcGravell My eyes are burning! ;)
 
@MarcGravell Can't you make it orange - black instead of orange - white?
 
that's what happens when working with a chat built with 110% awesome
 
Tim
Orange is @YiJiang's favourite colour.
So this works out nicely.
 
anyone else seeing slow upload times to imgur ?
 
Tim
@SamSaffron I believe that @AidenBell (Well, he's not here yet..) mentioned something about that earlier. I didn't have any trouble when I used it a few hours ago.
 
6:54 AM
Not really
but then I did just upload possibly the smallest image I have
 
aiden is trying to get in :)
in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 32 secs ago, by Aiden Bell
chat.stackoverflow.com -> chat.stackoverflow.com/beta-access
 
Tim
@balpha The servers are upset over all of his password-guessing, I suppose. ;)
 
@Tim oh, that's good -- we have found a reason to blame the user :)
 
@Tim Hey, I didn't say that
Ah good, it's working now
Right, so who want to do the honor of starring the first message in chat.SO?
 
yohyoooooo, I'm in!
 
Tim
6:58 AM
@balpha That's the most important aspect of all code releases. :)
 
not sure it makes much difference, but hey!
where's rchern then? :)
 
Honey! I'm HOME!
 
@Benjol Asleep?
 
@LasseVKarlsen Did you bring the milk? And why didn't you take out the trash yesterday?
 
I didn't know it was my turn
 
6:59 AM
@YiJiang, no I think she left when all the riff raff came in :)
 
And I'll pick up the milk later
 
a single room with every possible discussion Why not ;)
 
Tim
I feel like I'm in far too many places at once now, heh.
 
@Tim Let your bot take over chat.meta
 
Love the color scheme too :)
 
Tim
7:01 AM
@YiJiang Ah, good idea.
 
Well, for a site with millions of visits everyday this place feels exceptionally quiet
 
Is there any rules regarding creating new rooms?
 
@LasseVKarlsen yes: do it
 
I was thinking we might need a C# room, but are you guys going to set it up, under central ownership?
 
Tim
Just have to wait for the masses to crawl out of the woodwork, heh.
 
7:03 AM
@LasseVKarlsen go ahead
 
@Lasse No attempting to overthrow governments, etc; should be broadly on-topic with the parent site; other than that - have fun
 
I'll restrain myself from posting "First" too :)
 
@YiJiang well, we've only just opened the doors, it hasn't really been announced, and most of the US is asleep...
 
Ooh, look at that blank white page
 
Tim
@MarcGravell Oh, I was hoping I could setup a discussion on how to siphon money from federal bank accounts using that JavaScript-based finance system ;)
 
7:05 AM
You going to post on the blog I assume?
 
@Tim You mean jQuery. That is a statement of fact, not a question.
 
Oh heck yes! SO chat! I was waiting for this! Thanks to the SO community, moderators and of course employees!
 
Tim
@YiJiang Right, right. My mistake.
 
@LasseVKarlsen Jeff will in due course
 
Yes, let's give them a nice round hand of applause for setting this system up!
3
applauds
 
Tim
7:08 AM
claps
 
morning...
 
I find it hilarious that I answered two separate questions tonight with the ever-so-popular preventDefault() solution for stopping events in JavaScript. It truly is sad how many incompetent JS devs are out there.
 
Tim
'Ello @Tomalak
 
@JacobRelkin hear hear :-\
 
Hello world!
 
7:10 AM
Hello @Justin
 
@Feeds Who are you?
 
well, I didn't have a controllable account called "World", so that had to suffice
 
@MarcGravell Fine, works for me
Congrats guys
 
This UI is so smooth. Whoever does the UI stuff at SO is just awesome.
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson Feedbot... unless it's somebody trying to disguise as the feedbot
 
7:12 AM
@YiJiang Yeah, I know. I was just being cheeky
 
@JacobRelkin I still maintain that half the animation is totally gratuitous and unnecessary
@JustinjjnguyNelson Actually, does anyone here wants to try mimicking the feedbot? ;)
 
Tim
@YiJiang And I still maintain that /blame should shoot projectiles at the user's gravatar.
 
/blame 
No go...
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson We can all pretend that it works :)
 
@YiJiang Fair enough.
 
7:15 AM
@Yi I saw bullets. Do you have JavaScript off? :-P
 
@Tomalak Need to type three characters for that to work - @YiJ
 
I wonder how this is gonna work.
 
Tim
@MarcGravell Is there an easter egg here yet?
 
This audience is way bigger than before
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson, the potential audience; for the moment it's pretty quiet ;)
 
7:16 AM
@YiJ Apparently, two letter first names are not compatible with this chat. :-D
 
@Benjol Yea, it's late in the us (2am here)
 
They aren't compatible with so comments either.
 
@Tomalak It's the same here as the so comments
 
Tim
@Tomalak That's why there's tab auto-complete ;)
 
...as marc just said
 
7:17 AM
@Tim I think our good friend @balpha is still polishing it
 
@Tomalak Shameless self plugging
18
Q: Allow for Comment Reply to Usernames With Less Than Three Characters in First Word

Yi JiangI know this is somewhat of a rare request/edge case, but this is becoming really annoying. In the faq, which I've linked to below, you state that for the comment reply system to work, There must be a starts-with, case-insensitive match of at least three characters in the display name. ...

 
Tim
@MarcGravell Ah, alright. Thanks! :)
 
@YiJ like this?
 
@YiJiang, you are the edge case :) - can't you just change your name to Yij Iang? :)
 
@YiJiang It's your fault for having such a short first name/word in your name
 
7:18 AM
@Benjol That's totally unpronounceable Chinese
 
[status-is-this-still-a-feature] *nope
 
that is a meta feature
 
@YiJ, that's ok, we're only typing it, not saying it :)
 
@MarcGravell Ah, that makes sense
 
@Benjol You still remember my reply to Jeff?
 
7:20 AM
@MarcGravell Has anything exploded yet?
 
@YiJiang :)
 
Well, initially we had half the servers letting people in, and half saying "beta". Which made things fun.
 
@MarcGravell Yeah, that would be confusing
 
@YiJ Short names and billions of people means a lot of name collisions. ;-)
 
@Tomalak Well, there are about 4000 characters commonly used in the Chinese language, and some names use characters so obscure computers don't even have them
So it's a bit of a non-issue ;)
 
7:22 AM
@Tomalak I recently implemented the game of life...partly inspired by your avatar...(in case you were wondering)
 
@Justin :-)
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson But, Golly, isn't there alredy a pretty good implementation?
 
not sure I see the connection to @Tomalak's avatar...
 
7:23 AM
Touche
My implementation choked if the grid got much larger that 80x80...
 
@YiJ AFAIK this does not apply to family names, just to given names (?)
 
That game is timeless though
 
@Tomalak Eh? Not sure what you mean by that.
 
test
 
7:25 AM
@JustinjjnguyNelson Oy, stop it, it's not funny
 
@YiJ I thought family names were somewhat limited and only first names could use any character? Maybe I'm confusing with Japanese though.
 

Sandbox

Where you can play with regular chat features (except flagging...
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson Oy, stop it, it's not funny
@balpha And he speaks!
@balpha What are the numbers on the upper and lower right corners of that box?
 
@Tomalak Eh... I'm always slightly confused about this first name - family name thingy because in Chinese the family name comes first
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson check the tooltips
 
7:26 AM
if only we had hover titles...
 
Well, I wasn't using my mouse at all...
 
@YiJ Yes, I got that wrong, I've already noticed. :-) Your first name is compatible with this chat after all.
 
@Tomalak Well, "Yi Jiang" is my given name. Two Chinese characters means two words when Anglicized.
 
@YiJ OIC
 
I'm wondering which room will be first to get enough activity to get a graph...
 
7:31 AM
Probably this one
 
here or Tavern; or maybe an outsider
 
@MarcGravell I thought it was time based? Like, 24h?
 
it is cached for an interval, but there is also a minimum level of activity required
 
What isn't cached on the site...?
 
Instant classic: xkcd.com/806 :-)
 
7:35 AM
Is it me or gold badges aren't shown in user profiles ?
 
That's just FizzBin
 
@ColinHebert hmmm... you appear to be correct.
 
@LasseVKarlsen I knew I'd seen that before, but i couldn't remember where
 
investigating
 
7:37 AM
@Marc / @balpha What's the user list sorted by?
 
Activity I think
 
@Tomalak which one?
 
right top
 
yeah, activity
 
Tim
moves to the front
 
7:37 AM
kicks tim
 
(ah, different user list)
 
Tim
@balpha Ouch. I was just being orderly.
 
I've been sleeping in a tent in front of the box office to be the first, and you think you can just "move to the front"?
 
Ha, been there!
 
@balpha Hm doesn't that mean a lot of visual disturbance when there is much activity in the room or is that averaged out somehow?
(you can see I'm not in chat much. yet.)
 
7:41 AM
I'd be more concerned about the visual disturbance of new chat messages coming in at a n-per-second pace than the result in the user list
 
pretty nice chat room guys, what is this built in? erlang / c# / something else?
 
@mythz Perl
 
LOLCODE
 
Cool, it looks like I've been immortalized in the chat faq
 
7:42 AM
Nah, it's obviously jQuery
 
With some python on rails thrown in
 
@balpha , well, we'll soon see. But I think it will autoregulate, when you can't hear anyone you're talking to, you shut up or go to another room.
 
yeah, exactly
 
Tim
@YiJiang My gravatar seems to stick out much better in grayscale, heh.
 
(Which is technically correct, actually)
 
7:42 AM
@balpha, I think the party analogy works pretty well for many things chat
 
Tim
@YiJiang jQuery with a sprinkling of magic
 
yeah, chat doesn't scale -- neither in real life nor here
Posted by Jeff Atwood on October 15th, 2010

It seems like only five short months ago we were discussing the value of having a hypothetical “Third Place” for our network:

The third place is a term used in the concept of community building to refer to social surroundings separate from the two usual social environments of home and the workplace. In his influential book The Great Good Place, Ray Oldenburg argues that third places are important for civil society, democracy, civic engagement, and establishing feelings of a sense of place. …

 
Well, in real life, you can talk louder
But in hear, you get one volume
 
it does scale, as long as you can push people into different rooms
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson YOU CAN DO THAT TOO HERE
 
7:44 AM
go get a room!
 
@MarcGravell what's the server written in?
 
c#, tsql, mvc - usual SO tools
 
no kidding? pretty brave
 
64
Q: Which tools and technologies were used to build the Trilogy?

aleembPicking up from the blog, the following is a more complete stack pieced together from a variety of places. Please add any that I may have missed. Return to FAQ index

Should be the same stuff
 
@mythz Why do you say that?
 
7:46 AM
storing chat in sqlserver doesn't sound very efficient
thought you might be using redis or something
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson cliché cliché, what else :-)
 
@Tomalak I have no idea what you are referring to...
 
@Justin (as an answer to "why to you say that")
 
@mythz not sure I see the connection, to be honest. Data is data is data.
 
@Tomalak Ah, ok.
 
7:48 AM
... is data
 
I'm gonna go change my name, it's too long for chat.
 
well i figured cause its realtime you're doing a lot of db hits per user
 
we obviously use the "/fast" switch for SQL-Server
and it works just fine
 
@MarcGravell YOu feed the hamsters Speed?
 
@MarcGravell Doesn't that cost like $10K in licensing fees?
 
7:48 AM
crystal meth
 
@mythz All of SO runs on ASP.NET / IIS / MS SQL, and pretty well at that. why would chat behave differently?
 
cause its real time, highly concurrent
 
Tim
@MarcGravell Ah, so that server outage was really due to a massive hamster OD. Makes sense now.
 
is it working for you?
 
yeah works like a char...
 
7:50 AM
@MarcGravell Define working. I'm up at 3 am chatting with strangers when I should be sleeping...is that working?
 
Can we get the people whose don't have display name set to update that name?
 
@Justin Yes, by design
 
If not I can spam people with a single @user
 
aiight, off to work good job @SO crew
 
@YiJiang maybe that encourages them to update their profiles :)
 
7:51 AM
So a single @ + not enough to distinguish beeps them all?
 
Hmmm, how do I get my name change to reflect in chat?
must have to log out
 
Probably
 
user profile page; I'll tickle it...
 
?
@user\d+ Get a real name!
 
fixed; reload
 
7:53 AM
...
 
@jjnguy SQLSever command apparently. tickle "Marc Gravell"
 
@MarcGravell, do you really have something called "Tickle user profile" ?
 
hmmm, I still see it as justin
haha
ok, now it's changed
thanks for the tickle @MarcGravell...
 
SELECT FROM USERS WHERE name = 'jjnguy' TICKLE profile;
returns Haha, stop that!
 
@YiJiang Or, wait a minute, I'm not drunk enough
 
7:55 AM
I thought it was TICKLE FROM USERS ...
 
@JeffAtwood Evening
 
@Justin That depends ;-)
 
@LasseVKarlsen Psst... fixed :)
 
aw, darn, I was hoping the chat new message sound would be the gallop
 
Have you guys started using Razor yet?
 
7:56 AM
If enough users ping you at the same time, perhaps the soundwaves will merge into it
 
yeah, and then you'd be the first one to complain it's annoying
 
@JeffAtwood Don't you have some say over that...?
 
@JeffAtwood Thanks for all the awesome work you're doing for SO!
 
well it could be clipped to just the first part of a gallop @balpha
hey, did you guys read the chat.stackoverflow.com/faq ? It mentions something about easter eggs. I wonder what that means.
 
okay, I'll try to remember to record a sound next time I see a unicorn
 
7:57 AM
@Jeff It means they're not active yet
 
that's not what I heard
 
This place is getting crowded. What was the largest number of people you guys stuffed into a single room during the stress testing?
 
user19302
hey awesome, it's jeff
 
150
 
like 100
 
user19302
7:58 AM
did it work well?
 
user19302
not as far as speed
 
That sentence in the FAQ needs to be fixed
 
user19302
as far as being able to understand what's going on
 
"If you're wondering to say to your fellow community members, we hear there are some pretty amazing easter eggs in chat … maybe they know how to trigger them?"
 
7:58 AM
yes, we'll fix that typo and a few others in the /faq soon
 
That sentence is a bit flawed too, mind you
 
hey, this thing looks polished, nice job
 
/faq
/egg
 
@jjnguy That must be the Easter Egg
 
/waffles
 
7:59 AM
there is a sandbox room for experimenting..

Sandbox

Where you can play with regular chat features (except flagging...
 
I suppose that is for the sanbox
yeah
 
Tim
@JeffAtwood One of you is lying..
42 mins ago, by Marc Gravell
@Tim I think our good friend @balpha is still polishing it
That, or @balpha works at the speed of awesome, which is also true.
 

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