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10:00 AM
@badp He probably has secret keyboard shortcuts he won't share with us
 
lold
 
@YiJiang [status-orange-is-ugly]
 
honestly the flag system has not gotten a big workout because behavior has been so inexplicably GOOD
it does work though, obviously
 
Why inexplicably?
 
@JeffAtwood It's because those MSO guys don't know how to have fun. This is SO now, we'll take care of it
 
10:01 AM
@VinkoVrsalovic this is the internet for crying out loud
 
yeah, it's time to stop the flagging-for-fun now, though. After all, flagging actually has a purpose
 
THATS IT IM FREEZING THE ROOM!
 
@badp This is not the internet. This is an addict house where we all get our fix
 
noes!
 
10:02 AM
This room was placed in timeout for 1 minute; the topic of this room is "General discussion" - conversation should be limited to that topic.
heh
so that's for rooms which are getting really off topic
 
1 minute? I thought it was 30 seconds
 
I can star and flag when frozen
 
That's an obscure countdown.
 
man, that was hypnotizing
 
With Great Power comes Benificent Dictator Pranks.
 
10:04 AM
I require flares to go with the countdown.
 
basically it's like having a toddler: you put them in timeout
we can also force move conversations to different rooms -- eg if something is massively off topic
 
@YiJiang You need to make it dynamic instead of hard-coding text
 
@MichaelMrozek I know, but I don't have a server that can handle the load
 
10:05 AM
@YiJiang keep it on the downlow in wink wink that room
 
omg we can post images too
 
That's some sexy Gravatar leaves room action.
 
crap
 
It just occurred to me that new people here will have never known bouncy
...I think that pleases me
 
bouncy :(
 
10:06 AM
ah, bouncy. How I miss you.
 
@badp You appear to have gotten your smiley the wrong way 'round
 
A moment of silence please for bouncy
 
This room was placed in timeout for 1 minute; the topic of this room is "General discussion" - conversation should be limited to that topic.
 
in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Sep 2 at 10:37, by balpha
changeset:   2069:0665193eae8c
tag:         tip
user:        balpha
date:        Thu Sep 02 12:31:44 2010 +0200
summary:     Bouncy is dead. Long live Bouncy.
 
you broke the silence!
Timeout cleared
 
10:07 AM
@MarcGravell I held a speech
 
what was that?
 
commemorative and all...
 
@mahen23 Instead of the green circle on the bottom left, your gravatar used to bounce up and down when you had a message directed at you
 
bouncy still lives in our hearts and changeset 2068.
2
 
10:08 AM
It was exceedingly annoying
 
anyways i got work, cya
 
That was the subject of my first chat feature request - to mercilessly and permanently remove that animation
 
it was exceedingly enthusiast
 
/quit
 
@balpha try that at the cenotaph - see how it goes down
 
10:08 AM
/me glares at @balpha and @MarcGravell for not supporting slash commands
 
I can't believe there's yet no room dedicated to the close police. It's one of the best uses for chat.
 
@MichaelMrozek /blame @MarcGravell @balpha "Why can't we have /slash actions !!!???"
 

The Fuzz

Questions causing a funk? Close it baby.
@badp
 
10:11 AM
@AidenBell He beat you by 29 seconds
 

 Question tracker

Questions as they are asked.
@aiden :P
 
Hot damn!
 
Now, which one should I join...
 
Suddenly, rep points below names :/
 
Knu
is this web only? is it mirrored on irc? (i wonder how the edit would work)
 
10:11 AM
 
@DavidLyod Only if there's enough space
 
@DavidLyod It happens if there's enough consecutive messages to make the box big enough for it. Along with the larger gravatar
 
Like this
Yeah
A bit more
 
Actually my room needs a different owner than me, I'm not going to stick around there... much.
 
@Knu, no IRC bridge afaik
 
10:12 AM
@DavidLyod If you type more than one message, the profile icon space will change, bigger icon, full name, reputation
 
@YiJiang @MichaelMrozek Ah , I see :D
 
@MarcGravell touche
 
Knu
i think it could work - it would be just a low-version
 
@MarcGravell but mine really does say 0
 
Knu
link/url to photo etc
 
10:13 AM
@AidenBell press F5 to make it go away
 
uncool :P
 
'F5' is the new 'restart your computer'
 
"Try clearing your cookies" is "Try turning it off and on again" 2.0
 
@gyaresu nah, F5 is log off and on; ctrl+f5 is restart ;p
 
10:15 AM
@balpha Should do what Google does - post a small message at the top reminding the user that there's a new version, and ask for the user to refresh
 
Knu
my bad
 
Speaking of Google. Is everyone here using duckduckgo.com yet?
 
@YiJiang if we did that everytime we pushed a change, that would get annoying pretty quickly
also, there wasn't a change in this case
 
@gyaresu it's on the search page stackoverflow.com/search
 
We should probably have a scheduled event in here that goes off every single day
 
Knu
10:17 AM
ah! the middle click doesn't work on link
 
@balpha quark
 
ok, I am headed to bed. night all.
 
@JeffAtwood You're obviously impressed with it also then.
nigh nigh
 
G'night
 
My day just got better:
 
10:18 AM
because jeff left?
 
I'm finally worthy!
 
@MarcGravell Grats, now what are you going to do with your protobuf-net?
I mean, there are others like it, but that one is yours.
 
finish writing it would be a good start
 
14 mod flags? I no longer feel bad about all the mod flagging I do, I was picturing hundreds
 
actually most of those 14 are on deleted posts, or part of a dialog
 
10:20 AM
 
I guess it'll be turned off soon...
 
@badp Psst... that's actually an image
 
Oh, so you're actually cheating :P
 
@YiJiang Don't tell him that, you were so convincing!
 
Shame you can't 'star' multiple 'chats' that form one.
 
10:22 AM
The question mark should have given it away
 
If that made any sense :D
 
@DavidLyod well, you can bookmark the section, if that helps
 
@badp Mind coming up with a better name for this feature request?
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Q: Chat MultiCollider™

wafflesAs chat has grown in its awesomeness I find that I would like to participate in multiple chat rooms across multiple sites. For example I would like to be in a few StackOverflow rooms and few Meta rooms. However, I don't want to have to open a gazzilion pages to participate. Are there any pl...

 
@MarcGravell Ok, that sounds like a good option.
 
What's wrong with MultiChat™?
 
10:37 AM
@VinkoVrsalovic Too simple :P
 
There's a chance somebody would know what that means just from reading the title
We can't risk it
 
fires up eclipse and continues working
 
Multinteractive Realtime Collaborative Chat (MURC Chat) ™
 
at my last place, projects were even after release things like Caesar, Icarus, Morpheus, Minerva, Falcon, etc.
 
I rather like ChatCombinator
 
10:40 AM
For anyone new starters it was impossible to know which to use ;p
 
But it's not recursive, @MichaelMrozek
 
I'm just tearing a page off Aperture Science's book, people, I'm not being extremely inventive :)
 
I prefer StackChat™ MultiChat™ Procrastifier™
 
@AidenBell The repetition of chat there is slightly grating
 
that's the point
MultiChat™
 
10:41 AM
"Welcome to the Aperture Science Computer Aided Enrichment Center" "...press the 1,000 MW Aperture Science Super Collider Super Button"
 
(Insert Complicated Stupid Name Here)™ Chat
 
@MarcGravell My current place does that, and we're not supposed to document the mapping between code name and public name, so you have to ask someone or figure it out from context
 
btw, what's the difference between filled and hollow stars in the sidebar?
 
@DmitryOrnatsky Hollow is pinned by a room owner or mod; it stays above stars. ( How do I star or pin things? )
 
hollow star = pin
 
10:42 AM
also: gold=by you
 
someone pinned a hole into the star
 
Visual metaphore lost
 
thanks, mb I just was a bit lazy with the FAQ
 
Never admit liability, its not the programmers way.
 
10:43 AM
@AidenBell It used to actually be a pin, but that got changed pretty fast, I think people didn't like how it looked
 
Jeff hated the pin. When he dislikes something he really dislikes something.
 
pin would be more intuitive
 
I vote for donkey tail
 
maybe it just needs to be a little larger
 
10:45 AM
I like how the hollow star looks, but it is pretty much impossible to guess that it's a pinned post
 
hold down ctrl and scroll then ;p
 
Anyway, I'm off to work so I can attempt to accomplish things while talking to you all. Try not to talk too much while I'm traveling, I don't feel like reading through pages of transcript
 
expected some JS magic
 
Ctrl-0 is what you're looking for
you zooming cheater!
my poor avatar!
 
I really should try to find that gold-badge bug
 
10:51 AM
wonders if t-shirts are en-route
 
@AidenBell Still crying about missing the T-Shirts
 
@YiJiang wtf u talkin bout?
Need I produce screenshottage ...
 
@AidenBell Eh? I wasn't there. I was in an exam hall busy writing out the essay that I hope will save my grades. Wtf u talkin 'bout
 
@YiJiang - "Still crying about missing the T-Shirts" -- I was in on that junk
Nothing to cry about
ooooohohhhhh
ohhhh right
 
At risk of exposing security vulnerabilities by posting sourse, @balpha is mocking me after he found the bug with the gold badges...
        if(apiUser.badge_counts != null)
        {
            userObj.Badges.Bronze = apiUser.badge_counts.bronze;
            userObj.Badges.Silver = apiUser.badge_counts.silver;
            userObj.Badges.Bronze = apiUser.badge_counts.bronze;
        }
 
10:56 AM
@YiJiang You are still crying
 
I ain't mocking noone
 
so your bling will be back with y'all shortly
 
Where are badges even shown?
 
@MarcGravell - Easy mistake, total omission hehe
Copy and paste coder ... it's alright ... you are amongst friends
:P
 
user profile. But curiously, some of you folks don't have complete profile links.
 
11:00 AM
 
I think I now have a way of finding people who have been trying SO chat ahead-of-time ;p
 
@MarcGravell - The humility
    if(apiUser.badge_counts != null) {
        userObj.Badges.Bronze = apiUser.badge_counts.bronze;
        userObj.Badges.Silver = apiUser.badge_counts.silver;
        userObj.Badges.Bronze = apiUser.badge_counts.bronze;
    }
corrected that brace issue for ya
 
My parent user connection appears to not exist (although my gravatar shows up fine here). It doesn't show up in the menu when you click my name either, and my rep doesn't show up on the left. Unless that's admitting to trying to get in here early, in which case everything is fine
 
this is C#, not JavaScript
 
hey, whatever floats your boat
 
11:03 AM
@MichaelMrozek yes, that's what marc meant with "some of you folks don't have complete profile links."
 
also, I know it was C#
 
@Aiden - can you do me a favor please, can you logout - don't worry, you'll log straight back in automatically?
 
@MarcGravell - OK shifty eyes
.... Deep breath
 
Not sure when we passed it, but a big congrats to Jeff/Joel and the team for passing the 1 MILLION question milestone on StackOverflow!
 
Hrm you wouldnt believe I was 25 by my dietry habits. Last night I made chocolate pancakes with chocolate spread on top. This morning coco pops and I just made crumpets with more chocolate spread . Im the envy of thousands of 6 year olds.
 
11:04 AM
@MarcGravell - hang on, this wouldn't be to do with the password guesses?
 
@AidenBell You're still alive! It didn't work!
 
Oh, I guess the secret is kind of out anyway:
 
yes. But while you were having "fun", 50 of you managed to get your profiles into dodgy states.
Now I need to fix it :(
 
@MarcGravell Apologies :(. In fairness, it was mostly @rchern's fault
 
@MarcGravell - done
 
11:06 AM
@AidenBell and you have a parent profile now
 
yep
 
Just by logging out, or did @MarcGravell fix something?
 
I've repaired the trouble-makers; the logout probably was enough, but this makes sure
 
puts dunce hat on and sits in corner @MarcGravell apologies on behalf of all the trouble makers
 
It would've gone so much easier if you'd just given up the password. We wouldn't have had to resort to this sort of thing
 
11:09 AM
lmao
 
Partial scrolling @balpha
 
how often do you want to report that? :)
 
this is the first time, so ... once
 
11:11 AM
 
pretty sure I've seen that from you before -- sorry if not; that's been reported a million times
 
its ok :)
but im no multi-reporter
@MichaelMrozek - Nice mirrorage
 
You're pretty quick with capturing, trimming and uploading the images.
I envy you.
 
@TomaszŁazarowicz There are tools for that
 
11:13 AM
what you're trying to do has already been done at the infinite cat project, btw
 
@balpha The subtle humor of this is not lost
 
I approve of your approval
 
I'm massively slow at it, I manually edit them. ImageMagick supports handling the cropping itself, I'm just too lazy to add it to my screenshot script
 
@MichaelMrozek - Im actually using Python and GD at the interactive prompt to do it
and XLib
not really.
gnome-screenshot ftw
 
If I used gnome that would definitely come in handy :)
 
11:19 AM
gnome is easily the superior desktop environment.
 
I loathe KDE, but no desktop environment is the superior desktop environment
 
Gnome are evil greedy creatures that steal your jewelry.
 
And just running import will let you draw the box, I just don't have support for doing that bound to the print screen key
 
@MichaelMrozek I like your evil rook, or whatever you have there on your gravatar
 
@VinkoVrsalovic that's conwy castle
 
11:22 AM
Xiangqi () is a two-player Chinese board game in the same family as Western chess, chaturanga, shogi, Indian chess and janggi. The present-day form of Xiangqi originated in China and is therefore commonly called Chinese chess in English. The game represents a battle between two armies, with the object of capturing the enemy's "general" piece. Xiangqi is one of the most popular board games in China. Distinctive features of Xiangqi include the unique movement of the pao ("cannon") piece, a rule prohibiting the generals (similar to chess kings) from facing each other directly, and the ri...
 
Shatranj bishops
 
@MichaelMrozek Hehe... I used to play that against my father
He almost always won, even after dropping two of his pieces from the start
 
I vaguely know the rules, that's about it, I've only played it like three times
 
Classic Error message: "Could not perform action. It is unknown"
 
I prefer: "ERROR: Could not display error message"
 
11:31 AM
mine has a Zen quality
 
Zen is overrated and underunderstood
@YiJiang Why the characters are different for the pieces according to color? They mean "red chariot" "black chariot" and so on?
 
Wow, last time I checked this was still protected by a password.
 
@VinkoVrsalovic One is simplified Chinese, the other, tranditional
Can't remember exactly why, except perhaps aesthetics or traditions I think
 
@YiJiang Ah, all black goes in simplified
 
@VinkoVrsalovic The color's always been black and red
@BoltClock Hello there!
 
11:36 AM
So, what was the password?
 
@YiJiang Hi! (I love the new reply sound here, better than the one at chat.meta)
 
@VinkoVrsalovic there was no password.
 
@VinkoVrsalovic I got in without one. Somehow.
 
You mean the password was the empty string?
 
@VinkoVrsalovic No, apparently the form didn't accept any password.
 
11:37 AM
I got in here through a direct link on Twitter while I was browsing the #stackoverflow tag.
 
So invitations were via links
or IPs
or both
 
@VinkoVrsalovic Usernames I think was more likely
A simple check against entries in a small table in the db
 
what in the world are you guys talking about?
 
right, the cookie
 
there were no invitations
 
11:39 AM
about the security of the beta
 
I got invit....I mean.... right. No invitations
4
 
lol
 
Just grandfathering.
 
@MichaelMrozek Actually, it's odd that you're using those pictogram chess pieces
They're almost never used. The Chinese character version is far more prevalent.
 
11:39 AM
@MichaelMrozek I knew it all along ... liar
 
Grandpa, when will you tell us the story of the chat?
 
@YiJiang They are when we played, because we don't know chinese and sucked at remembering which pieces were which :). We could barely handle the pictograms
 
@YiJiang I agree with @YiJiang. I've absolutely never seen pictogram Chinese chess pieces myself.
 
We printed out those wikipedia images and taped them onto the pieces
 
Ha, clever!
 
11:51 AM
So, @YiJiang, you're 16, huh?
 
This isn't going anywhere good
 
Yeah. Was it something I said?
 
@MichaelMrozek </novelty>
 

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