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12:00 AM
not sure
already scrolled by
 
something is oddly configured on the tryrebol server .. Kaj is investigating
 
12:21 AM
@BrianH No worries—found the 2.7.6 changes here, looking for 2.7.7.
 
@rgchris Strangely enough, the 2.7.6 mezz changes were also from R2/Forward - even though that wasn't a public project yet.
Eventually I hope to have the version-fill part of rebol-patches serve as a more comprehensive change log, though you might think of it as a change-log in reverse. It probably won't go back past 2.5.0 though.
 
12:34 AM
2.5.0—Goodness, that's a ways back...
 
posted on March 01, 2013 by abolka

[Comment] "Let's have this ticket be about the unset words issue" If this ticket ought to be about unset words alone, please someone with the power to do so: adapt/rephrase it.

 
12:57 AM
 
@RebolBot /d who is graham
 
@GrahamChiu I know this about graham
@GrahamChiu Sorry, don't understand what you said to me
 
@RebolBot who is earl
 
@GrahamChiu sorry {who is earl} is not in my current repertoire. Try /h for help
 
1:01 AM
@rebolbox /d who is earl
@RebolBot /d who is hostilefork
 
@GrahamChiu I know this about hostilefork
 
@RebolBot /d whois rgchris
 
@GrahamChiu I know this about rgchris
 
@rebolbot /d whom do you know
 
@GrahamChiu I know something of the following people: earl graham rgchris hostilefork
 
1:16 AM
What a way to waste away a few hours!
 
waste?
 
yeah .. could be outside walking my dog! Or thinking about how to rotate my house :(
 
At least your house didn't fall into a sink hole...
 
not yet
If it did .. I could claim insurance
should one talk to a bot using a natural english dialects or switches ?
Or should one not be seen talking to a bot!
@rgchris oh .. one of those falling dreams that turn out to be true
 
1:49 AM
Back. Been busy. Looks like RebolBot has come along...
And knows who I am, even.
 
@HostileFork She doesn't know the crazy stuff :)
 
@GrahamChiu Well tell her. It might go over well with AI.
 
She's up to 400 loc .. getting way too big
 
The R2/Forward project has been moved to Github, including an import of the DevBase change history by @earl. Go to github.com/BrianHawley/r2-forward for more fun. I'll be updating the license to make sure it is as compatible with R3 and Red as I can get away with.
2
 
@RebolBot /d who is BrianH
 
2:02 AM
@GrahamChiu I know this about BrianH
 
This should make it more compatible with the workflow I've been getting used to lately. No issues or wikis yet, let me clean things up first. Lots to do!
 
@moliad I am in favor of a conference, mid July will be after my lease expires and I may be a wandering vagabond by then. I was kind of hoping to go to Europe, though. :-/
 
Is @moliad 's company sponsoring the flights and accommodation?
 
@GrahamChiu nice :)
 
@BrianH People weren't prepared to say anything in the room info so moving that data to the bot
 
2:06 AM
It really is nice that you've introduced RebolBot to me :)
@HostileFork somebody might want to star that R2/Forward message though, for those now asleep.
 
@RebolBot /d whom do you know
 
@GrahamChiu I know something of the following people: brianH earl graham hostilefork ladislav rgchris
 
I don't have any change history from before I first put it in DevBase. Most of that first release was written in one sitting anyway. I just really missed R3 when I had to use R2.
 
@BrianH I have several pieces of functionality for the Red port that may or may not belong in R2/Forward. Currently there is a file in Red called r2-forward.r which is more or less empty. Whenever I needed a general service routine to bridge compatibility, I'd just add it in there.
Much of it is lazy stuff, like just making a read-string that glosses over the difference between read in R2 and R3, instead of actually emulating properly. Just trying to forge ahead with the real problems rather than being super clean.
 
Thanks @BrianH! R2/Forward
 
2:19 AM
@HostileFork I'm going to break it up a little into multiple files, and maybe reference rebol-patches. A file of simple gloss-over-the-differences wrappers might be nice, but in the long run I was hoping to make an optional set of more ambitiously R3-compatible wrappers for native stuff.
 
@BrianH I don't know what the most elegant way to deal with the Zen Cow problem is, so my hacks will need review.
 
@HostileFork I had some questions about that, but they mostly had to do with saying that R3 doesn't support greater-than-UCS2 codepoints yet. It's still on the todo list.
 
@BrianH As per the question, I dunno if it's that big a deal, but the difference in interpretation of ^(80) to ^(FF) in R2 vs R3 is a bigger deal.
As any code depending on that is a nuisance to fix.
Especially to keep running in both.
 
In cases like this I usually point people to Gabriele's text converters. But they're only for R2.
Nuisance, agreed.
 
@BrianH Could be worth adding as a comment to the question.
 
2:29 AM
I'm not sure that is the best approach to promote in the long run, just the best to promote right now.
 
And the long run includes today since those aren't necessarily portable to R3 yet.
 
2:44 AM
@RebolBot /s "R2/Forward" "R2/Forward by BrianH" github.com/BrianHawley/r2-forward
 
@rgchris added key: R2/Forward
 
@RebolBot /s "PowerMezz" "Power Mezz by Gabriele" rebol.it/power-mezz
 
@rgchris added key: PowerMezz
 
@RebolBot R2/Forward
 
2:47 AM
Thanks.
 
3:30 AM
@Respectech Bo, you're the first person to tell me that they have tested the smtp protocol sucessfully.
The ehlo is supposed to be set in the spec block and perhaps should be defined in the user object so it can then be set when the spec is used
But the current architects have not advised us on what the user object should be and where it should be.
@rebolbot /x print system/version
 
; Brought to you by: tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl
>> print system/version
2.101.0.4.2
 
3:45 AM
What's happened to our recent new converts? Wrong time zone?
First 0.1 release of the freedom box
@rebolbot /d who the dickens is hostilefork?
 
@GrahamChiu Sorry, don't understand what you said to me
 
4:12 AM
@rebolbot /d save my details compkarori.com
 
@GrahamChiu They are sponsoring the venue and maybe more (plus letting me spend time to organize it)
 
@moliad I prefer conferences where I get sponsored the whole way :)
 
@GrahamChiu we will sponsor you if you agree to pay a 5000$ registration ;-)
 
@rebolbot /d save my details compkarori.com
@moliad I don't normally even pay registration fees!
@rebolbot /d save my details compkarori.com
 
@GrahamChiu Added GrahamChiu's details
 
4:19 AM
@rebolbot /d whom do you know
 
@GrahamChiu I know something of the following people: GrahamChiu brianH cyphre dockimbel earl graham hostilefork ladislav rgchris
 
@RebolBot /d whois GrahamChiu
@rebolbot /d who is graham
 
@GrahamChiu I know this about GrahamChiu
@GrahamChiu I know this about graham
 
@GrahamChiu thing is we won't be 1000, so we cannot really afford to pay for people to get there the point is for us to meet, exchange & learn.
 
@moliad can you save your details like I did
ie @rebolbot /d save my details http://www.......
@Adrian also please save your details as a url
 
4:24 AM
I will try to keep part of the ReCon program for PARSE related topics... real life applications, workshop, tutorial... we'll see the interest.
@GrahamChiu can we change it later?
 
@moliad Yes, it overwrites the last entry
 
@GrahamChiu issue is, right now I don't really have a place for my own promotion on line.
 
no github ?
all the ones I've entered are github accounts unless not known
Glass ?
 
@GrahamChiu yeah I have one, but its empty, basically.
 
4:56 AM
@RebolBot /d save my details github.com/asampal
 
@Adrian Added Adrian's details
 
@Respectech I see a new avatar for you now ... took a jolly long time!
 
@RebolBot /?
 
I know these other commands:
/d dialect
/k "returns known keys"
key opt @user "returns link and description"
/rm key "removes key (authorised user)"
/s key [string! word!] description [string!] link [url!] "save key with description and link"
/v "returns version of script"
/x value "evaluates a Rebol value in a sandboxed interpreter"
 
@RebolBot /v
 
5:00 AM
@Adrian 0.0.11
 
github's quite a bit behind
@GrahamChiu, what does the dialect understand?
 
dialect-rule: [
		'show any [ 'me | 'all ]
		[
			'links ( show-urls: true)
			'like set links url! ( similar: true )
			|
			opt 'your 'youtube 'videos ( youtube: true )
		]
		| [
			some [ 'who 'is | 'whois | 'who 'the 'dickens 'is ] copy user to end
		] 	( if found? user [ show-user-page message-id user/1 ] done: true)
		| [
			'whom 'do 'you 'know ( show-all-users message-id done: true)
		]
		|
		[
			(print "save rule"
				?? person
				trim/all person
			)
			'save 'my 'details set user-url url! (
 
@RebolBot /d tell me a story Robot
 
@Adrian Sorry, don't understand what you said to me
 
@rebolbot /d who the dickens is hostilefork?
 
5:08 AM
@GrahamChiu I know this about hostilefork
 
@RebolBot /d show me all your youtube videos
 
@Adrian Got it?
 
sure
I can parse
 
just do some more testing before I update the github version
@Adrian so you can save your details then :)
 
5:13 AM
k
do you have anything else in mind for the bot?
 
do you mean like fetching cc tickets or wikipedia?
 
You've been cranking away at her? for some time now.
 
I need to stop.
 
Uh, maybe like warring with the JavaScript bot :-)
 
If I make it too functional people won't be able to see the trees for the forest and will find it harder to modify
I could plug in an Eliza bot but that's not that useful ..
 
5:16 AM
I was going to say that modularizing it so that commands are provided by external modules, might be helpful.
Then people don't need to muck with the main bot code.
 
there are the /slash commands and then there is the dialect
 
Couldn't the dialect encompass the previous / commands too?
 
yes, but I think it's harder to remember a dialect
 
I mean you'd still use /, but the parsing for those would be handled by expanding the dialect parser
 
could do that too
 
5:44 AM
@Adrian how does one communicate with the JS bots?
 
Not sure, for this kind of purpose. I suppose you could use WebSockets in a plugin for the bot.
check out the current plugins it has
Doesn't look like any are the type to listen to outside events.
 
https://github.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot/wiki/Interacting-with-the-bot
 
6:24 AM
@GrahamChiu Yup, took a long time. But wasn't it worth it? :-P
My avatar comes from part of a mural on the side of Respectech's building. The artist thought it would be funny if he painted a caricature of me inside a computer monitor. I don't think my forehead is really that large.
@GrahamChiu Thanks so much for your work on the smtp protocol! It is happily sending me emails announcing motion detection events from one of my embedded webcams (in development).
 
@GrahamChiu I thought you were asking how to do it from outside - for the warring idea I mentioned.
 
@Respectech cute
@Adrian I probably wouldn't want to do this .. the other bot might start getting mine to execute rebol code and swamp Kaj's server
@rebolbot do print system/version
 
6:42 AM
@GrahamChiu Sorry, don't understand what you said to me
 
It wouldn't have to go through the same 'channel' as the commands from chat. Anyhow, what I had in mind was more of a turn-based puzzle solving or path finding kind challenge to show off Rebol solutions vs JavaScript ones. So not really a real-time attacking kind of war.
I would think the JS fans would welcome a chance to show that the language is mightier than Rebol.
 
@RebolBot do print system/version
 
@GrahamChiu Sorry, don't understand what you said to me
 
going to try and change the rules around a bit .. so won't be working for a while
 
getting rid of / commands?
 
6:51 AM
make the dialect default
@RebolBot do print system/version
 
posted on March 02, 2013 by BrianH

[Comment] This is a general problem with the functions which use /skip for dealing with series of fixed records. We're discussing the issue in #428.

posted on March 02, 2013 by BrianH

[Comment] And here's another example: #726.

 
; Brought to you by: tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl
>> print system/version
2.101.0.4.2
@GrahamChiu Sorry, don't understand what you said to me
 
@rebolbot /k
 
@GrahamChiu I know the following keys: About Aggregator Altjson AltXML BadMoney bot-source chatmod CodeBlocks Colouriser crockford Devcon droid FAQ HaikuOS help introduction PowerMezz R2/Forward Red Red-lang Saphir Snowball tutorial xmlflawed
 
@rebolbot ? Codeblocks
 
6:54 AM
make error! [
code: 305
type: 'Script
id: 'expect-arg
arg1: 'trim
arg2: 'series
arg3: word!
near: [
parse expression: to block! expression dialect-rule
?? expression
?? similar
?? show-urls
if youtube [similar: true links: https://www.youtube.com]
case [
similar [
print "in similar"
foreach [key data] bot-expressions [
if find/part data/2 links length? links [
append tmp ajoin ["[" data/1 ";](" data/2 ") "]
]
]
?? tmp
if empty? tmp [tmp: copy "nothing found"]
reply message-id tmp
]
show-urls [
print "in show urls"
 
@RebolBot ? Codeblocks
 
@rebolbot /h
 
I know these other commands:
/d dialect
/k "returns known keys"
key opt @user "returns link and description"
/rm key "removes key (authorised user)"
/s key [string! word!] description [string!] link [url!] "save key with description and link"
/v "returns version of script"
/x value "evaluates a Rebol value in a sandboxed interpreter"
 
@rebolbot version
 
7:00 AM
@GrahamChiu 0.0.11
 
@rebolbot ? help
 
@GrahamChiu FAQ
 
@rebolbot ? help @GrahamChiu
 
make error! [
code: 200
type: 'Syntax
id: 'invalid
arg1: "email"
arg2: "@GrahamChiu"
arg3: none
near: "(line 1) ? help @GrahamChiu"
where: [to try process-dialect parse if foreach attempt forever catch either either -apply- do]
]
 
ok, a problem ... passing illegal email values
@RebolBot ? help @Graham
@RebolBot ? help @graham
 
7:13 AM
posted on March 02, 2013 by BrianH

[Comment] Done.

 
7:23 AM
@RebolBot ? help @Graham
@RebolBot ? help @graham
 
@GrahamChiu FAQ
 
@RebolBot ? help @Graham
 
@GrahamChiu FAQ
 
@rebolbot ? help @Graham
 
@GrahamChiu sorry {helpGraham} is not in my current repertoire. Try /h for help
 
7:39 AM
@RebolBot ? help @Graham
 
@GrahamChiu sorry {help@Graham} is not in my current repertoire. Try /h for help
 
@RebolBot ? help for graham
 
@GrahamChiu FAQ @graham
 
@rebolbot ? help @Graham
 
@GrahamChiu FAQ @grahamGraham
 
7:43 AM
@RebolBot ? help @Graham
 
@GrahamChiu FAQ @Graham
 
@rebolbot help
 
I know these other commands:
/d dialect
/k "returns known keys"
key opt @user "returns link and description"
/rm key "removes key (authorised user)"
/s key [string! word!] description [string!] link [url!] "save key with description and link"
/v "returns version of script"
/x value "evaluates a Rebol value in a sandboxed interpreter"
 
@RebolBot keys
 
@GrahamChiu I know the following keys: About Aggregator Altjson AltXML BadMoney bot-source chatmod CodeBlocks Colouriser crockford Devcon droid FAQ HaikuOS help introduction PowerMezz R2/Forward Red Red-lang Saphir Snowball tutorial xmlflawed
 
7:50 AM
So, we have so far
keys {returns known keys}
? key [ for user | @user ]
version
help
do expression "evaluates Rebol expression"
@Sunanda dealing drugs?
 
@GrahamChiu That's what they gave me in the hospital.
 
@Sunanda ahh.. back from the drug dealers!
 
@GrahamChiu It's very civilized these days, mainly done by email.
 
8:06 AM
@RebolBot help
 
I respond to these commands:
do expression "evaluates Rebol expression a sandboxed interpreter /x"
help "this help /? and /h"
keys "returns known keys /k"
save my details url! "saves your details with url"
show links [ like url ] "shows saved links"
show your youtube videos "shows saved youtube videos"
who is user "returns user details and page"
? key [ for user | @user ] "Returns link and description"
version "version of bot /v"
/s key [string! word!] description [string!] link [url!] "save key with description and link"
 
@RebolBot help
 
I respond to these commands:
do expression "evaluates Rebol expression in a sandboxed interpreter (/x)"
help "this help (/? and /h)"
keys "returns known keys (/k)"
save my details url! "saves your details with url"
show links [ like url ] "shows saved links"
show your youtube videos "shows saved youtube videos"
who is user "returns user details and page"
? key [ for user | @user ] "Returns link and description"
version "version of bot (/v)"
/s key [string! word!] description [string!] link [url!] "save key with description and link"
 
the (/n) refer to the old syntax
Just a couple of more commands to move to the new syntax
 
@RebolBot who is RebolBot?
 
8:14 AM
@Sunanda Sorry, I don't know anything about RebolBot yet.
 
@rebolbot who is dockimbel
 
@GrahamChiu I know this about dockimbel
 
@rebolbot who is earl?
 
@GrahamChiu I know this about earl
 
@rebolbot whois Sunanda?
 
8:19 AM
@GrahamChiu Sorry, I don't know anything about Sunanda yet.
 
8:57 AM
@RebolBot who is adrian?
 
make error! [
code: 331
type: 'Script
id: 'invalid-chars
arg1: none
arg2: none
arg3: none
near: [to word! person
if #"?" = last user [remove back tail user]
attempt [
either link: select about-users to word! user [
reply message-id ajoin ["I know this about [" user "](" link ")"]
] [
reply message-id ["Sorry, I don't know anything about " user " yet."]
]
if not known [
reply message-id [{I'd like to know about you! Use the 'save my details' command}]
]
]
]
where: [to show-user-page if parse try process-dialect parse if foreach attempt forever catch either either -apply- do]
 
@rebolbot who is adrian?
 
@GrahamChiu I know this about adrian
@GrahamChiu I'd like to know about you! Use the 'save my details' command
 
@RebolBot who is Graham?
 
@GrahamChiu I know this about Graham
 
 
4 hours later…
1:28 PM
@RebolBot save my details
 
@Respectech my details can not be saved as key
 
@RebolBot who is respectech?
 
@Respectech Sorry, I don't know anything about respectech yet.
@Respectech I'd like to know about you! Use the 'save my details' command
 
@rebolbot /k
 
@Respectech I know the following keys: About Aggregator Altjson AltXML BadMoney bot-source chatmod CodeBlocks Colouriser crockford Devcon droid FAQ HaikuOS help introduction PowerMezz R2/Forward Red Red-lang Saphir Snowball tutorial xmlflawed
 
1:31 PM
 
@Respectech Added Respectech's details
 
@rebolbot save my details facebook.com/bohdan.lechnowsky
 
@Respectech Added Respectech's details
 
@rebolbot who is respectech?
 
@Respectech I know this about respectech
 
1:34 PM
Ah, so Rebolbot only remembers the last details submitted about a user. Was just wondering....
 
2:34 PM
@NickA Good example!
REBOL [
    title: "Herd The Sheep Game"
    date: 9-feb-2013
    file: %herd-the-sheep.r
    author:  "Nick Antonaccio"
    purpose: {

        Inspired by the LiveCode "Sheep Herder" game (advertised because it
        was conceived and completed within 3 hours, 18 minutes).  This quick
        implementation took 17 minutes to create, using REBOL :)  Also available
        at:

        re-bol.com/examples.txt

    }
]
Nice 1-liner image-manipulation function written by Vincent Ecuyer last month:

posterize: func [value [image!] depth [integer!] /local t][value and make image! reduce [value/size 255.255.255 / (t: 2 ** (8 - depth)) * t]]
(Reduces the color depth of images)
 
3:22 PM
-----
A LOT more tickets were opened in Curecode during Jan & Feb than were fixed. http://curecode.org/rebol3/index.rsp
BTW, very nice job on the reporting toolset in Curecode. RSP is so much more lightweight and efficient than ASP.
@moliad Good morning!
 
3:34 PM
posted on March 02, 2013 by Respectech

[Bug] Example code summarizes the problem

posted on March 02, 2013 by Respectech

[Note] Platform dropdown is at least missing "Linux ARM". Category dropdown is at least missing "Console" as some bugs are only related to the console and no other category seems to fit.

 
@user2081311 Good morning!
@user2081311 Welcome to Rebol and Red Saturday chat! Come on in. The rest should be here shortly. <crickets chirping>
 
4:19 PM
-----
I feel so utterly alone...
 
4:36 PM
@Respectech Fear no more!
 
@earl Finally, signs of life! Unfortunately, I have to stop developing in R3 now and go to my regular job....
 
@Respectech Well, have a nice day, then :)
 
4:52 PM
posted on March 02, 2013 by abolka

[Comment] Thanks for reporting. Multi-line console input is currently not implemented for any platform.

 
5:11 PM
@Respectech It's Saturday, no?
 
 
2 hours later…
7:17 PM
Might I suggest a Rebol blog/tutorial site? It'd be a good place to start writing down docs for all the stuff you guys are implementing.
I'd be perfectly willing to write something for it.
Also, if anyone's alive on here, I'd like some advice on writing a DSL-REPL
 
@Respectech finding those issues at this point is as important as fixing them. I'm pretty pleased at the number of tickets being submitted, after a long drought. Almost all of them are old bugs. It's a great idea to focus on testing now, especially for new participants who don't yet have a handle on the deep issues since it will get them up to speed quickly.
 
Rebol in Rebol:
while [true] [
  do input
]
I'm more proud of that than I probably should be.
The interesting thing is that commands executed in that loop are recorded in the outer loop's command history
 
7:49 PM
posted on March 02, 2013 by BrianH

[Comment] I was able to add a Console category, but there I couldn't find a place in CureCode where I could configure the platforms. We need to at least add "Linux ARM", "Android", "HaikuOS" and "Syllable". Also, does the "Linux x86 libc6" one need the "libc6" part? If so, we might need separate "Linux ARM" and "Linux Pi" platforms.

posted on March 02, 2013 by SomeKittens

[Bug] When the tab key is pressed, the user sees eight spaces entered, but the interpreter only "sees" one tab character. Thus, if I hit backspace once, the tab key is eliminated (but I still see seven spaces).

posted on March 02, 2013 by BrianH

[Comment] Andreas is unfortunately right here, ticket adjusted accordingly. On Windows I tend to do this instead: do clipboard:// - no header required either on bare script code in R3, so it's just like pasting it into the console. That should work for every platform that has working clipboard support. Does Linux on ARM have clipboard support, or does Linux need a GUI to even have a clipboard

 
8:40 PM
@RebolBot hello
 
@GrahamChiu hello to you too
 
@SomeKittens What's a DSL-REPL ?
@SomeKittens we do have a blog here .. not used much these days
@RebolBot do to string! read compkarori.com/cgi-local/cgi-test.r?a=b
 
; Brought to you by: tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl
>> to string! read compkarori.com/cgi-local/cgi-test.r?a=b
== none
 
Still not working :(
@BenjaminGruenbaum did you manage to contact Gabriele regarding parse in JS ?
@RebolBot who is BenjaminGruenbaum
 
@GrahamChiu Not yet, still dealing with bureaucracy :)
 
8:52 PM
@GrahamChiu Sorry, I don't know anything about BenjaminGruenbaum yet.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum University ?
 
Hebrew University
 
I thought you said that they were interested in implementing parse in JS as a student project?
 
Yes, they are :)
 
@GrahamChiu Domain Specific Language - Read Evaluate Print Loop. I figured it out, going to hack around with it for a bit.
 
8:54 PM
It's more than just 'writing it', they're very serious people :) They need to get good students, you don't want just any CS graduate working on it, they need to approve giving students credit for it, and so on
It'll take about 2-3 weeks to get past, but we have initial approval
 
@SomeKittens yes, I knew the separate acronyms .. but the combination? Rebol's console is thus a REPL-DSL
 
It turned out to be much simpler than I thought it would be (guess I should get used to that)
 
Rebolbot here understands a simple dialect :)
@RebolBot show me all links like rebol.com
 
Curiously if Rebolbot provides me with all the links she knows, it crashes the SO chat server
 
9:03 PM
If I were to run the Rebol binary somewhere with no given external processes, what would I need to provide?
 
@SomeKittens what does "with no given external processes," mean?
 
Wondering what it would take to get Rebol running in a browser, possibly with JS wrapper.
 
@SomeKittens this is the rebol plugin page
it was stopped as Rebol 2 could not be sandboxed
 
Figures something like that would already be implemented.
 
So, it's hoped to revitalize it when Rebol 3 is out of alpha
Or, have Red compiled to JS
 
9:09 PM
@GrahamChiu what do you mean the SO chat server?
 
@Adrian Sorry, don't understand what you said to me
 
You don't you mean the server at chat.stackoverflow.com crashes, do you?
 
@RebolBot show me all links
 
make error! [
code: 513
type: 'Access
id: 'Protocol
arg1: "Server error: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error"
arg2: none
arg3: none
near: none
where: none
]
 
@Adrian Yes, SO chat server error
 
9:15 PM
What are you sending it to get this? Just some text with links in it? What happens if you post the same bunch of links manually, here?
 
haven't tried
let me fire up wireshark
@rebolbot show all links
 
make error! [
code: 513
type: 'Access
id: 'Protocol
arg1: "Server error: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error"
arg2: none
arg3: none
near: none
where: none
]
 
from the RFC:
21.5.7. 513 Message Too Large

The server was unable to process the request since the message length
exceeded its capabilities.
guess you'll need to break it up
 
@Adrian oh ...
 
Is it really that long?
I mean you can post a pretty long text, manually.
Could it be that somehow content-length is not set when you post?
 
9:20 PM
I've had content-length issues before.
 
it's only 2276 chars long
 
check if it's being set when you post the links
 
content-length is correct .. this is rebol post
 
Well, there must be a difference in what's posted by the bot, in the case of the links post, vs what is posted by the browser when you do a long post from there.
 
They've got a maximum chat message size.
Lemme try and find it
Ah, can't find it. They admitted a length but not what it was
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Q: My love broke the chat

TylerShadsMy love for a movie was way too much for the chat to handle and it apparently broke for some users running Internet Explorer. The obvious issue is that it they are using Internet Explorer, but I thought It would be worthwhile to know regardless.

 
9:27 PM
@SomeKittens when I try to paste the same message .. I get a JS message that prevents me
so it's encoded here in the JS
limited to 500 chars
isn't much ...
 
strange - in the sandbox room, I've pasted about 30000 bytes of text
no message
 
and here ?
 
I have a feeling that this length specifically targets posts with links - because they could very likely be spam at that length.
I don't want to try the wall of text here...
 
@sublime.Hat @I'll-Be-Back welcome to Rebol/red chat channel .. we have a FAQ, just ask the bot here
@Adrian Just paste it into the box but don't send it ...
but I think you're right, it must be spam protection
 
no message
 
9:34 PM
@rebolbot ? help
 
@GrahamChiu Sorry, don't understand what you said to me
 
@RebolBot help
 
I respond to these commands:
do expression "evaluates Rebol expression in a sandboxed interpreter (/x)"
help "this help (/? and /h)"
keys "returns known keys (/k)"
save my details url! "saves your details with url"
show links [ like url ] "shows saved links"
show me your youtube videos "shows saved youtube videos"
who is user "returns user details and page"
whom do you know "returns a list of all known users"
? key [ for user | @user ] "Returns link and description"
version "version of bot (/v)"
 
hmm.. wonder if a bug crept in with the rewrite last night
@rebolbot ? help for sublime.Hat
 
@GrahamChiu FAQ @sublime.Hat
 
9:36 PM
@Adrian so I should remove the link format ...
 
No, just generate multiple messages :-)
 
well, at least we now know there is a 500 char limit on messages with links
@RebolBot keys
 
@GrahamChiu I know the following keys: About Aggregator Altjson AltXML BadMoney bot-source chatmod CodeBlocks Colouriser crockford Devcon droid FAQ HaikuOS help introduction PowerMezz R2/Forward Red Red-lang Saphir Snowball tutorial xmlflawed
 
@RebolBot ? crockford
 
9:44 PM
fixed that parse error
 
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Q: How well does Rebol scale in an FCGI setup?

rebnoobI plan to write a fairly decent sized web application in Rebol (CGI on Apache 2 at the moment) but the initial performance tests have been very discouraging. I get a measly 4-5 requests/sec when I run apache benchmark on the application. I'd like to know if others have had similar issues and if F...

 
@DocKimbel I read somewhere someone stress tested Cheyenne and it was close to Apache. Is that document around anywhere ?
@pekr I see you used Rebol fastcgi .. did it come with Rebol/command?
 
Yes. Hasn't been recreated for R3.
 
Hmm. I have R/command .. where was it?
 
A command line option IIRC. There's no reason to expect that I would though.
 
9:58 PM
The command line usage is:

REBOL <options> <script> <arguments>

All fields are optional. Supported options are:

--cgi (-c) Check for CGI input
--do expr Evaluate expression
--link url Connect to Link
--help (-?) Display this usage information
--nowindow (-w) Do not open a window
--noinstall (-i) Do not install (Link, View)
--quiet (-q) Don't print banners
--reinstall (+i) Force an install (Link, View)
--script file Explicitly specify script
--secure level Set security: allow ask throw quit
 
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