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10:00 PM
Looks like it's a server port scheme.
 
yeah
>> a: open fastcgi://:80
>> close a
and in non command
>> a: open fastcgi://:80
** Access Error: Invalid port spec: fastcgi://:80
** Near: a: open fastcgi://:80
 
10:14 PM
I see doc has a fastcgi implementation for cheyenne
 
@GrahamChiu That's the client protocol (what runs inside Apache). Helpful, but what they need is the server protocol.
 
10:37 PM
4-5 requests a second?
 
@rgchris in CGI, not FastCGI.
 
I know—still seems a bit slow.
 
people say mod-php can do 1000 requests/sec
@RebolBot show all links
 
I mean—still seems like a slow setup.
 
10:44 PM
@GrahamChiu mod-anything is faster because it doesn't have process startup overhead. That overhead is why CGI is slow. Rebol would just be slower because its startup overhead is significant - /Base would be faster.
 
rebolbot now splits up links into 500 character chunks
 
That's why FastCGI was invented in the first place, to make app-servers instead of CGI processes.
 
@BrianH yes, but we have no stats for rebol fastcgi
 
Stats wouldn't matter anyway, since they are dependent on how you configure your app server and how much overhead each individual request is.
 
I recall running vanilla as cgi is very slow
@rgchris what are you using for reb4.me ? Apache?
 
10:52 PM
Yes.
 
and just CGI ?
 
Yes.
The parts that are dynamic.
 
so fastcgi just listens on a port waiting for requests from the web server and just sends them back
 
@GrahamChiu Yes. In a special binary protocol.
 
Anyway, seems to be a subjective statement—4-5 seconds per request. I wonder how the application/hosting service factor into that.
 
10:59 PM
@earl wikipedia didn't mention that part! :(
 
@rgchris Matches roughly what I have in the back of my head. I.e. ~10 req/sec with full /Core and pure CGI.
 
@earl That's already twice as many :)
 
@rgchris Ancient numbers, though. I think a current machine should be ~10x faster :)
 
@earl your vanillasite.at seems a tad slow from where I am
 
@GrahamChiu Uses a "suboptimal" Vanilla as well :) It's slow from where I am as well ...
 
11:06 PM
@earl still running on a 486sx ?
 
@GrahamChiu Running on a slow machine as well, but it's not really the machine's fault :)
I can obtain some more recent numbers on a not stupidly-slow VM shortly. But I'd guess it will be roughly 50-100 req/sec for a baseline "Hello, World!" CGI.
 
@earl using SSD?
 
@GrahamChiu No, but that should be completely irrelevant for that kind of benchmark.
 
Why? It has to load the rebol binary each time from local storage
 
Will be cached the second time round.
So unless the machine is running heavy I/O besides and is already running out of available memory, the storage subsystem shouldn't matter.
And even then, the interpreter image is only ~400KiB.
 
11:17 PM
Well, I tried to answer the question. It was a little details-poor so it had to be a general explanatory answer.
 
Ah, you added more :)
Wonder why Feeds hasn't posted your answer...
 
feeds has a 20 min wait ?
doc "I've done some stress test on a previous version of Cheyenne, it
was sustaining around 500 concurrent connections on static pages
requests."
 
Sample CGI:
#!/path/to/rebol -cs
REBOL []
prin [
    "Content-type: text/html" crlf
    crlf
    <!doctype html>
    <title> "Rebol CGI Sample: Hello" </title>
    "Hello, World!"
]
 
@GrahamChiu Answer was an hour ago.
 
Poor man's benchmark methodology: ApacheBench 2.3, 100 serial requests: ab -n 100 http://.../ (ApacheBench and CGI running on the same machine).
 
11:25 PM
@rgchris must be more than 1 hour then
 
Rebol 2 (2.7.8.4.2): ~60 req/sec (~16.6 msec/req)
Rebol 3 (2.100.111.4.2): ~80 req/sec (~12.5 msec/req)
 
@GrahamChiu No—something else changed, should be along in a moment.
 
@GrahamChiu Semicolons in between, or are you trying to save on characters? They kind of run into each other as is.
 
On my laptop:
R2 ~30 req/sec (~34msec/req)
R3 ~50 req/sec (~20msec/req)
 
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A: How well does Rebol scale in an FCGI setup?

BrianHIt's been a while since I've used the FastCGI facilities in Rebol, so I can't really answer the first question very well, but I can help on your second question, though you might not like it. Noone has recreated the fastcgi:// scheme for R3 yet. I say "recreated" because R3 has a completely diff...

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A: How to find the source code for clipboard:// protocol on rebol?

BrianHRebol 3 is open source now. Start here: https://github.com/rebol/r3 The cross-platform portion of the clipboard port scheme is in src/core/p-clipboard.c and the platform-specific parts are in files like src/os/win32/dev-clipboard.c though at the time of writing this answer only Win32 and Android...

 
11:40 PM
How much rep do you need to change the accepted answer if you didn't write the question and the questioner is gone? Just curious.
 
@Adrian They can't be on separate lines as that destroys the links so I used a "; " to provide some visual separation
 
@RebolBot show all links
 
oh .. looks like I forgot to add the "; "
 
@RebolBot /rm AltXML
 
11:44 PM
@rgchris removed AltXML
 
@RebolBot /s "AltXML" "XML Utils by rgchris" reb4.me/r3/altxml
 
@rgchris added key: AltXML
 
@RebolBot show me all links
 
@RebolBot /rm AltJSON
 
11:45 PM
@RebolBot /s "AltJSON" "JSON Utils by rgchris" reb4.me/r3/altjson
 
@rgchris added key: AltJSON
 
@RebolBot /rm AltJSON
 
I think you can try
save AltJSON "JSON utils by rgchris" url!
 
Ah, that changed?
@RebolBot save "AltJSON" "JSON Utils by rgchris" reb4.me/r3/altjson
 
11:46 PM
@rgchris AltJSON JSON Utils by rgchris reb4.me/r3/altjson can not be saved as key
 
oh well... buggy!
Is it adding keys still or not?
 
@RebolBot save "AltJSON" "JSON Utils by rgchris" reb4.me/r3/altjson
 
@rgchris removed AltJSON
 
@RebolBot save "AltJSON" "JSON Utils by rgchris" reb4.me/r3/altjson
 
@rgchris AltJSON JSON Utils by rgchris reb4.me/r3/altjson can not be saved as key
 
11:48 PM
parser broken
 
@RebolBot save AltJSON "JSON Utils by rgchris" reb4.me/r3/altjson
 
@rgchris AltJSON JSON Utils by rgchris reb4.me/r3/altjson can not be saved as key
 
@rebolbot /s AltJSON "JSON utils by rgchris" reb4.me/r3/altjson
 
@GrahamChiu added key: AltJSON
 
@RebolBot /s AltXML "XML Utils by rgchris" reb4.me/r3/altxml
 
11:50 PM
@BrianH I don't think you can do that, ever.
 
@rebolbot keys
 
@rgchris AltXML is already a key
@GrahamChiu I know the following keys: About Aggregator AltJSON AltXML BadMoney bot-source chatmod CodeBlocks Colouriser crockford Devcon droid FAQ HaikuOS help introduction PowerMezz R2/Forward Red Red-lang Saphir Snowball tutorial xmlflawed
 
@rebolbot show all links like reb4.me
 
@earl OK, cool. That wasn't a request, I was just curious about the SO interaction model.
 
11:51 PM
oh crap
oh well, I have to go out so rebolbot is going to run in its buggy mode
@RebolBot ? altxml
 
@rebolbot show links like reb4.me
 
those were rewritten to account for the 500 char limit and then not tested as can be seen
 
No, no—I wrote those!
 
11:56 PM
You put in the semicolons Chris?
 
@Adrian The bot is giving me credit for Carl's writing. I accept.
 
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