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2:00 PM
An observer? Is that pretty much like a server-side polling service?
 
fetch('schedule.json')
    .then(
        () => { printSchedule(); setTimeout(); },
        (error) => { setTimeout(); }
);
 
Poll at interval, emit on change?
 
var p = Promise.race([
  fetch('/resource-that-may-take-a-while'),
  new Promise(function (resolve, reject) {
    setTimeout(() => reject(new Error('request timeout')), 5000)
  })
])
p.then(response => console.log(response))
p.catch(error => console.log(error))
Neato
 
So, there's this guy saying this is easy to read:
var fillArray = (...args) => args.reduce((res,arg) => res.concat(Array(...Array(arg[1]-arg[0]+1)).map((e,i) => i + arg[0])),[]),
 
i think signalr is a wrapper around websockets.. not sure
 
2:02 PM
SignalR just provides many fallbacks and a little ease of use. It's a library.
 
I'm sure the code is as short as it can be, but maintainable? Ugh, nope.
 
I agree it's easy to read.. until after the .concat() where things go crazy.
 
Must have fallbacks, like socket.io
Since it supports IE8
 
They go all the way to iframe hack fallbacks IIRC
 
he has a kiosk, so if websockets are supported, maybe no fallbacks
 
2:03 PM
@Vap0r umm, how to describe. put a getter/setter on your objects, when they change socket.emit(changees) backt
no polling required
 
@rlemon the Exchange Web Service is where the kiosk get's all of it's meeting information from, this has to be connected to it's not asynchronous.
 
websockets
 
poll! poll like it's 1985!
 
I feel like I'm being either dumb, difficult, or both.
definitely both.
@rlemon it's a microsoft owned server that we get our meeting information from.
So how do I set up the emitter on MS stuff?
 
you need another server to poll, then do that.. so.. I vote jsut poll like you are and handle the errors so that it doesn't poop itself at might.
 
2:07 PM
Do I need it though? @rlemon was indicating it all could be down with websockets
 
you jsut said you couldn't modify the server..
so..
which is it?
 
not bad for a 6 year old processor and $200 gpu eh?
vr ready! lol
 
I agree that websockets are the ideal way to stream live data.. but this is just a schedule display.. and talking to a server you don't control. just poll once/minute or however often you want, and move onto more interesting problems.
 
It's an exchange web services connection to a MS-owned server
 
and put in an error handler for christ's sake. :)
 
2:10 PM
any of you guys still use bootstrap for new clients projects?
im tempted to use 3 just for simplicities sake
 
@Luggage the error handler is really all I need. The thought of having socketed connections Office 365 for instantaneous meeting updates got me randy though.
 
bootstrap is no longer sexy.. but it works.. lots of pre-made themes... I'd be tempted, still
 
@Luggage what to use as alternative?
 
foundation, purecss
 
@Loktar Boss left us the vive whilst he went on holiday, I fucking love it
 
2:12 PM
or just a css reset + a few handy mixins for making flex layout
 
@BenFortune hah! What games did you play?
 
Tempted to just shove one on the credit card
 
or css reset + a standalone grid .css + my own style
 
The lab and Brookhaven Experiment
 
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@Loktar Feel free to ship the GPUs to my house when you're done benchmarking lol
 
2:12 PM
@Jhawins already gave it to Jacob :p
 
make them.. make them fight for it
 
using an rx460 in it now, which works well but is a $150 gpu
 
@Loktar with the move, you're with the same company right?
 
@SterlingArcher yea
 
no gloves, no rules. last man standing gets the GPU
 
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2:13 PM
I'll fight him for it lol
 
lol
 
user1596138
Lmao
 
Will you still be going to the office at all?
Or all remote
 
it won't fit in your laptop @Jhawins
 
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Now I'm picturing mini-Jason kicking my ass
 
2:13 PM
@SterlingArcher will go a few times a year
 
@Luggage last question (ha) how do I stay on top of all this? Is there a good site that touches on a little of everything that's happening in web/UI/js/html/css development?
 
That's cool. You still get to see @Jhawins :D
 
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Although I guess Mini-Jason could mean both @Loktar and his son ;)
 
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Jk lol
 
haha
 
2:14 PM
Have you had him over for a family dinner yet? lol
 
@SterlingArcher lol no actually
 
@Vap0r you are at that site right now.
 
You're a horrible friend
 
user1596138
He invited me over liek 6 times. Something always came up haha
 
we planned like 3 things they fell through was kind of funny
 
2:14 PM
That's why I love you :D
lmao you guys suck
 
then I wanted to have him over before we moved
 
Well good thing I got chat.stack unblocked
 
user1596138
We went out to dinner tho, just not at his house.
 
but man we got so busy
had a lot of shit going on
yeah, feel free to come to the new one @Jhawins lol
actually it's not too far from your fam is it?
 
I'ma just show up one day at lokes door "so, when's dinner?"
 
2:15 PM
"get off my porch"
 
@Loktar you're in MI now right?
 
yea
@rlemon haha
 
I can get a round trip ticket to you for $205 :O
That's cheap af
 
wow, that's actually cheap
usually it's pricey to fly into MI
I paid $450 last time I flew in from NE
 
> cat: jason, there is a weird guy setting up a tent in our front yard.
jason: yea that is just rlemon. don't open the doors, you'll never get him out of the house.
 
2:17 PM
Dulles to Detroit is cheap apparently. Dulles to Kitchener (@rlemon) is 3x as much
 
3 hour-ish drive
depending on traffic
 
Change of plans. Weekend at Loktars. We can play with his kids and wife
 
Dulles to Toronto is like $275
 
@rlemon LOL
 
Oh fuck yeah, that's right you can pick me up from Toronto not kitchener
 
2:19 PM
yeah I mean anyone is welcome to come over honestly
I have an extra modern PC and overflow steam account even if you want to game :p
 
lol
priorities
 
> Honey there are 6 internet strangers coming over today
 
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@Loktar Lol it's a bit of a drive
 
user1596138
It's like 3 hours from my mom's yea
 
user1596138
If I move out there I will visit.
 
2:20 PM
ah, yeah that's a bit I guess
*when you move ;)
 
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Yea when I've already driven 10 hours to get there lol
 
> overflow steam account
 
So many options. We can go to Loks, Nicks, Seans, or Jhawin's moms!
 
once Holly gets her passport in order I'm gonna take a day trip to MI and see you @Loktar
 
Why would one even have this?
 
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2:20 PM
@SterlingArcher Corn and amish at Jhawins' Mom's
 
did someone say Corn?
 
I've always wanted to bang an amish chick
Apparently lemon has always wanted Corn
 
@BenFortune sometimes you get random free games
 
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@SterlingArcher LOL I don't really know how your odds would be there
 
or bundles with games you already own, and all your kids own them
 
2:21 PM
RUMSPRINGAAHHHH
 
user1596138
I mean they're a lot more "normal" than youd think
 
or, games that are great for lans that are SUPER cheap
like when L4Dead2 was free
 
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@SterlingArcher They do that in the group in my area back there lol. Have gotten drunk with Amish kids
 
They don't have the internet though I'm not sure if my dank meme game would work on an amish chick
 
add them to the extra account, and when people/family come over you have an account they can use
 
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2:22 PM
There's a surprising amount of Amish DUIs back home...
 
I want to learn neural networks.. I wonder what languages everyone is using..
 
@Luggage c#
 
Haskell
 
@Loktar Ooh good idea
 
Nah, I already know c#. Boring.
I'm not hipster enough for Haskell
 
2:23 PM
prolog?
 
How about rust?
 
yeah my nephew comes over and plays Garys mod all the time, he doesn't have his own steam account so we just let him use that for example
works out since we all have PC's and I have like 2 extra ones now people can use lol
 
Tensorflow with Python?
 
yea, i guess..
 
Go
 
2:24 PM
@Loktar your nephew sounds casual as fuck
 
well hes 7 soo...
 
CASUAL
 
but yeah more casual than my kids were at 7 for sure
 
Savage
 
console peasant
I would build him a PC but he is still too crazy/rough with things
 
2:25 PM
@Loktar no he's 007, should be golden gun 360 noscoping
 
It's ok, I have a steam account I don't use and an xbox I use for netflix because nobody wanted to play destiny with me
 
@SterlingArcher heh funny enough I started playing that like 2 weeks ago
but on the PS4
 
Isn't it fun?
 
it was like $5 at Gamestop so I was like meh, why not
yeah it's not bad actually
 
The multiplayer is hard as fuck at first
I'm a level.. 31? warlock
 
2:25 PM
I played the beta and didn't like it, the full game is actually pretty good though
I'm like a level 6 warlock
lol still super low
 
The campaign is grindy as fuck but I love how the equipment is Diablo like. There's always something better
I have Fallout 4 and Dark Souls 3 but they're too complex for me to get into. I don't have enough time to Praise the Sun like I should
 
fallout 4 is a lot of fun
I'm thinking I should get back into that game
 
@SterlingArcher get moar gooder nub
 
I kinda miss playing TF2
 
I love the Destiny MP
 
2:28 PM
I wasn't that good since I played in college and used a laptop trackpad to play
 
Titanfall is slightly more fun, but Destiny was very good
 
But I got a lot of hats
I enjoyed Titanfall but I got bored quickly
 
4 mins ago, by Sterling Archer
CASUAL
 
Did anybody ever play Evolve?
 
@SterlingArcher Played the beta, wasn't much to it
 
2:29 PM
Damn, the trailer looked fun
 
@SterlingArcher I've got 4 billion years in-game
 
har har
 
@SterlingArcher man I love TF2
but overwatch has been fun lately
 
Overwatch is the new TF2
 
@SterlingArcher you have to play competitive/ranked
once you get up to the gold tier in titanfall, it gets really good
 
2:31 PM
I hear awesome things about Overwatch but I'm tired of playing full price for games I don't have time to play
I barely even watch TV anymore during the week because I simply don't have time
 
@SterlingArcher ~ said Loktar never
 
@SterlingArcher It's really, really good
 
Any time I do have, I want to dedicate to building SourceUndead again
 
@BenFortune it's good, sometimes ok
the balance is too balanced
 
How can it be too balanced?
 
2:33 PM
it takes the fun out of it
everything feels glossed over and plasticy
like screamo is metal but overproduced
 
Balance is good in a competitive game
 
@rlemon :(
if you sort by price
I have at least played all of my $50/$60 games!
 
@BenFortune yeah, but it's so balanced that if one team is outclassed, there's nothing the other team can do and the if it's even, the game just goes really really slow
 
@Loktar Wow
 
titanfall solved by that making the weapons lethal and adding a second tier (titans)
 
2:35 PM
@ssube you try the titanfall 2 beta?
 
@Loktar but half of them are <30m
 
@rlemon still counts! :p
 
22.6h
Average playtime
 
haha actually no
 
@Loktar right away
it's good
 
2:36 PM
the higher priced games have decent time in them besides 2 or 3 lol
 
needs a lot of polish still, the mp has some issues
but it's going to be great fun if they keep it
the movement is so much better
 
(and it was already really good)
 
@ssube I'm just glad they didnt have the autoaim pistol
 
2:36 PM
fuck that thing. And yeah I agree the movement in that game is top notch
@rlemon do you even play Kerbal?! :P
 
@Loktar yet
they haven't added all the weapons yet, iirc
 
yeah true, I just hope they don't couldn't stand that thing lol
 
steamdb.info/calculator/76561197980106506/?cc=us profile created while you were still pooping yourself
 
it wasn't my favorite gun, but it was fun
 
2:38 PM
@Gant one day I hope to only have half of my games not played
 
I use the carbine almost exclusively, tbh
 
@Loktar just a bit
 
@Loktar same price per hour broooo steamdb.info/calculator/76561198035186501/?cc=us
 
I'd have to say my top three games right now are rimworld, ksp, and nms.
 
2:40 PM
it doesn't count all my pre-steam rimworld time
 
mankind divided hype
 
@ssube hah, I don't even understand it?
 
going home in an hour going at it
 
does it take all games total?
or just played ones?
 
all of em
 
2:40 PM
all games values / total play time?
 
no idea
 
@Loktar you said jacob likes prison architect right?
 
yea
 
watch for a rimworld sale.
he'll probably really dig that game
 
youtube.com/watch?v=kUHsY6gPCys @ssube listen close to the bass guitar. I have a new respect for that tatted fucker. he's actually incredible on that thing
 
2:41 PM
but it's harder than prison architect
 
lol just a bit
 
or can be
 
Rimworld sounds like my kinda place
 
he is much better at playing his games than I am lol
@BenFortune ooooh yeah ;)
 
2:42 PM
I only have such a low price per hour because I spent 2000 hours in EVE
 
I have Rimworld Actually @rlemon
bought it a year ago or so
 
not sure what the state of things was then, but it is hella fun now
 
Which is the one you guys played with the factories?
 
mod community is active as well
 
@BenFortune Factorio
 
2:42 PM
^
 
Still to try that, looks really good
 
rimworld is like the thankyou/fuckyou type game
so much fun, so much anger
 
@rlemon aw it looks so fun!
@Gant nice eve stats though
 
I'm only like 200 hours into rimworld.
 
that's not even my entire playtime, I had the client manually installed for most of the time
 
2:47 PM
Mornin'
 
game reks lives
 
I had 4700 hours on Guild Wars :|
Just on my monk
 
@Gant my girlfriend bought my fallout 4 and a hyperx headset for my birthday
it doesn't wreck you're life when people support it :3
 
well, I meant EVE too
EVE can absolutely consume your life.
 
yeah okay, but playing eve becomes your life
 
2:49 PM
I leveled up 11 level 100 characters from level 1 in WoD because I thought I was getting into a high speed raiding guild. : /
 
it was a good thing I was mostly a neet back then
 
@Gant heh. my best friend plays it, i've heard some stories..
 
at least I can say I helped kill goons
 
rust was turning into it too
@Gant where you apart of "the big war" or something earlier in the year?
aka "the biggest battle in video game history"
 
Dumb question... is it possible to use hot module replacement on an express application? As in, not on the client-side dependencies, but actually live reload the express server
 
2:51 PM
yup, in the corp that spearheaded it
Black Omega Security
my avatar is actually a reference to it
"Goggleelite"
 
@Gant heh neat. i heard a lot about it, so much money was lost..
 
Checking out facebook, scroll passed this, tons of comments yet none mentioning the name, I guess I'm just immature.
> We finally got Garrett's teacher.
He has Mr. Fangboner for 4th grade ( he really shouldn't be going into 4th grade already!!)
Mr. Fang Boner..
> He has a pet snake, I wont go near his room, lmao
 
the price of GDN-0 "Nightstalker" Combat Goggles has gone up to 200M from 14M when we started the joke
 
Of course Mr. Fangboner has a snake.
 
@corvid isn't hmr actually webpack hmr? like meteor has hot code push iirc
 
2:53 PM
@Loktar he probably shouldn't have his trouser snake out at school.
 
haha especially one with fangs yeesh
 
@Gant i'll find out which corp my friend is in
 
@Loktar well that's kinda impressive.
 
I stopped playing after our CEO threw out our head of IT without consulting me
and started installing random shit on his server
on the same day
 
const array = [1,2,3,4,5,6];
const [,two] = array;
TIL
 
2:55 PM
@BenFortune noplz
 
const [,two,...rest] = array;
 
then you end up with [,,,,six]
 
terrible readability
 
and nobody wants to read that
[head, ...rest] is super useful tho
 
2:56 PM
!!> ([1,2,3,4,5] + [,6,7,8,9,0]).split(',').map(Number);
 
@rlemon [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0]
 
why not
who needs .concat anyways
 
doesn't spread pretty much replace concat anyway now?
 
@Loktar spread usually turns into concat
 

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