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6:00 PM
@rlemon Me too, because jesus fuck this is magic.
 
@Trasiva youtube.com/watch?v=_KLSbCtinXsI started with this
just FULL of Canadianisms
 
@rlemon I'm watching it right now.
 
> bike chain, bandsaw, penalty box door
 
@rlemon Is THAT what the third one was? I didn't quite catch it.
Makes sense though.
 
crap bro.pics is expiring soon
 
6:03 PM
yea I can understand the accents
 
need to figure out if I want to own bro.pics still.. hmm
 
might be harder for you
 
@ton.yeung LOL
is that literally the entire article?
 
@rlemon Most of it's followable, but some of it is just....fuck.
 
@Loktar bro.. keep it, just post pics I GIMP of us bro's together
 
6:04 PM
just links to webpacks docs
 
I'll make one of you me J and Sterling
 
hahah
 
webpack docs are so bad
 
@rlemon ok, sounds good I will do it
that will be the only pic
 
lol
 
6:04 PM
Can you gimp Rebecca in there too?
 
we can collage it before long
you can J in a pic, me and Sterling in a pic
then I'll merge those :D
 
@rlemon What are all dressed chips?
 
:O
you don't have all dressed chips?!
holy fuck dude...
you are missing out
!!wiki all dressed chips
 
@rlemon No result found
 
dammit
 
6:06 PM
Hahaha, Canadenied
 
They taste like... wtf do they taste like?
 
google doesn't have any pictures for "potato chips in a suit" :(
 
have salt, vinegar and ketchup seasoning
 
contentment, i guess
 
is the technical mix
but it changes..
it isn't any of those
 
6:07 PM
ketchup flavor chips? wtf
 
ew
 
dude you haven't had ketchup chips?!
 
I've had mustard chips
 
those are also amazing
 
that's gross
 
6:07 PM
but ketchup is nasty
 
@rlemon Is calling someone a dialup is an insult in Canada?
 
slow
 
Ahhhh
 
@rlemon no way people actually say that
 
Jesus fuck, these are too short.
 
6:09 PM
I like my sex like I like dialup: slow, loud, and it's over if the phone rings
 
@GNi33 not in the cities. these are all small town mannerisms
 
haha, that makes it even better
our townfolk would have no idea what a dialup is
 
crl
typed nsfw dot com in the browser, I don't know what I expected, maybe a joke site
 
a smoke and a dart go together like a piss and a fart What the hell Canada.
 
They seem to like talking about pissing and farting a lot
 
6:12 PM
@Trasiva I think he meant a beer and a dart
because dart is a smoke
I caught that as well
 
@rlemon Well, as long as I'm not completely crazy.
 
You took your dad to his first Jays game and the first thing he said to you when he saw the field was, "how many acres is that? 10?" WTF!
 
listowel is a shithole :P
 
Glad they walked, 'cause it woulda been awkward to ask to take a piss before a fight HAHAHAHA.
 
Your gal keeps giving you the gears about your hands smelling like hockey gloves even though you haven't played hockey in a week.
 
6:14 PM
Guys :| this is probably a dumb question, but can you choose the ordering of your emitters? I want a clean up task to run on complete, but other complete events are occuring before it
 
@Trasiva it's a serious concern
 
lol
 
@ssube Oh I know, but the delivery from a Canadian is amazing.
 
> can't help but get a semi while bouncin around in a semi
 
6:16 PM
It's amazing they can keep such a straight face.
 
You took a shit on the bathroom floor at LDSS in 2002 after watching Jackass for the first time. #ListyProblems
oh my god this:
You sent out your new BBM pin via ever social media channel you have access to and then realized no one was in the business of giving fuck.
these are way too relatable for me
 
lol
 
whoo, got my grade 17
only like 30 more answers until I get mod tools \o/
 
I totally misread that as "moo tools"
 
GOT MY MOO TOOLS THANKS THOMAS FUCHS!
 
6:18 PM
when you get your gold JS badge, they give you a lifetime subscription to MooTools and you have to use it in every project
 
lol
 
coffeescript gold gets you Prototype
 
as long as I can pair it with Scriptaculous
oh shit, the library named prototype?!
haha damn @ssube that takes me way the hell back
 
@Loktar that was that auto-installer thing, right?
 
6:19 PM
no, it just gave you super fancy effects
isn't loading for me.. but yeah web 2.0 javascript!
 
@rlemon Damn it, I've watched every video they had....now I need to find more.
 
wow took forever to load, wonder if it's on a VM that works on demand
coolest thing about prototype was how it handled ajax requests
it would check every second, if there was no change, then 2, then 4, and so on until a change occured
back when that crap mattered
 
@Trasiva lol
 
@Loktar that's still in a lot of libraries
I forget where I ran into it, maybe something hitting redis, but that happened a few days ago
 
crl
an API that would list files by reading a directory, it feels bad? or a DB approach is more reasonable
always heard that fs is slow, but perf doesn't matter.., yea those images would have meta-data, so forget it->db
 
6:32 PM
@crl the filesystem is a database
 
crl
yes.. but I mean it can't hold all data you could want (the fs Stat objects on node for example)
 
fs.Stats has pretty much all the fs info
mode is the file permissions, uid and gid are the owners
 
@Loktar you still use ST3 yea?
 
@crl what are you looking for that stats doesn't have?
 
crl
what could interest the users of this api (on a cms) would be the last update time maybe, the size, the name of course... but we could also imagine to search where this file used, on which page, etc
 
6:37 PM
mtime, size, and you already have the name
 
@rlemon, remember that npm install weirdness I was seeing last night? I figured it out. I didn't notice the npm-shrinkwrap file that was sitting there... npm always prefers that over package.json and it hadn't been re-shrinkwrapped to reflect the new dependencies. I am disappoint in myself.
 
crl
@ssube right, seems fine too, thanks
 
@Sean shrinkwrap is the divil
 
crl
@rlemon I do too
 
crl
6:38 PM
dat /\ shaped head+neck
 
@ssube: I mean, I can definitely see its place given the fast and loose nature of npm modules and dependencies, but damn.
 
@Sean I have yet to see it actually help/improve things and have seen it break them a few times.
 
I very recently ditched ST3 for Atom. I like it so far.
 
I'm wondering about a good plugin for React
Babel does a good job but not everything works as nice as I would like
 
@ssube, I think that's pretty much what I've seen it do, too...
 
6:43 PM
I got so used to the editor completing tags, I now dislike doing it myself
same with some of the highlighting
 
but the only other safe choice is checking in node_modules, which other groups of people get up in arms about.
 
crl
@rlemon you used eclipse?
 
locking in versions makes sense, sorta, but the node/npm world moves fast and you'll do well to keep all your shit working on the lastest versions
 
@crl no thankyou
I've used it before
 
crl
hehe, used it for years
 
6:44 PM
@Sean that is a terrible, terrible idea.
Neither of those choices is "safe" at all.
Shrinkwrap is only useful if you don't trust the upstream and haven't set your version requirements well.
 
and I don't do either for personal projects. but in production, that works great assuming nothing bad ever happens. but what about people inadvertently publishing broken or compromised modules?
 
shrinkwrap is for the 'tested versions' and package.json is for the desired version ranges. At least that's how I see it.
 
@rlemon yea
 
I have dependencies of dependencies that broke and i need to lock in a specific one until the fix is published
 
@Sean having a trusted upstream is the only foolproof way to fix that
 
6:47 PM
3 mins ago, by rlemon
I'm wondering about a good plugin for React
3 more past this
if you have any idea
 
the equivalent of an on-site MS update server, so you can control which updates get to your machines
 
is this valid?

import * as router from './router';
export { mapRoute } = router;
 
crl
does node's require resolve cycles?
 
import { * as router } ...
 
@ssube you mean a local npm cache?
 
6:47 PM
@rlemon optional. That part works. I'm concerned about the second line
 
@Luggage more than that, although that mostly works. Something to sit between you and npm's global registry.
 
really? the 2ality 'guide' alluded to it not being optional
TIL
 
yeah, my company has an on-site caching layer for npm, but it's not like it's trivial to look inside modules and make sure no malicious code has made it in.
 
We run Sonatype Nexus here, so we can keep working during Amazon's annual outage
 
yea, that makes sense. I also did that for nuget. I had a company 'cache' / known good vesions
also it's faster
 
6:48 PM
@Sean whitelisting third-party deps is a totally different problem
 
@rlemon Actually, babel doesn;t even like your way.
I wonder if the spec changed
 
@Luggage way faster. Cut 5-10 minutes off a few builds.
Plus, we have an internal npm registry for our own modules, which takes priority over the global registry (but they get combined into a single url).
 
but alas, no, my second line doesn't work. invalid syntax
 
though we have a total of one node project whre I work. the project I brought with me when they bought my ass.
export { mapRoute } from './router'; // ?
 
export ({ mapRoute }) = router;
or maybe
export ({ mapRoute } = router);
 
crl
6:51 PM
doesn't like import, require ftw
 
yea, that second one looks more likely
 
@crl import is the final module syntax
 
crl
it sucks
 
Ah, found the winner
export const { bar } = foo;
had to prepend 'const'
 
pretty sure () would have worked then too
assuming you define it earilier
 
6:52 PM
Nope, I tried it
I'm testing on the repl
 
@crl import and require barely do the same thing
 
which finally has updated babel 6 on it
 
crl
yea, but import is some messy thing that we'd have to learn, the slight differences at least
 
let foo;
export default ({foo} = 123);
you sure this wouldn't work?
I can try it I suppose
 
why would I want to do that?
 
6:54 PM
I am not saying you would
just going over syntax now
 
@crl yeah, they added modules, you have to learn them...
 
Oh, alright
 
@rlemon I use a plugin called babel
 
require was just a stop-gap/placeholder from when we didn't have modules
 
@Loktar yea as mentioned it is okay, doesn't do everything I would like
 
a really really bad one
 
ah, yeah I just use that
 
But I still use require() in a few areas I can't use imports
 
there are some annoyances with JSX though
 
some of the syntax you can bork (nest React inside of a template string) and it doesn't complete HTML tags in your js files even when in react
 
6:55 PM
like no auto closing tags, no auto indent
 
@Luggage rather than System.import?
 
^
exactly
 
yeah exactly, I agree sucks man
 
(viewName) => require('views/' + viewName);
 
if you find something better let me know too lol
 
6:55 PM
I've never actually used System.import -- it wasn't supported last time I tried it. Is it in yet?
 
there has to be..
 
No, I should switch to system.import
 
Why are you using require to get a view file? Use the filesystem, man.
 
it takes string names and returns a promise that resolves with the modules, once they've loaded
@ndugger why would you ever use the filesystem directly?
 
crl
@ssube I'm using a requirejs like thing
 
6:56 PM
Why would I not?
 
that works on the server, assuming you haven't packed anything
that's the only place it will work
 
@Loktar like this screwed the entire file below it
res.send(`<!DOCTYPE html>${React.renderToString(<Foo bar={thing.otherthing}>)}`);
 
@crl requirejs is a fucking disaster
the entire API design was fucked from the start
seriously use anything else, even VB
 
vs code is a pain in the arse
 
vs code looked fun, but it's just atom nerfed
 

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