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4:00 PM
If this is for school, I can't help. They'll want something fitting their definition. In the real world, you just separate your concerns as much as possible and where that separation is will depend on your specific app/needs.
 
@Maurize querySelector
 
@littlepootis yeah, you do. technically you don't because you can store those properties on the instantiated object itself (which is what you are doing, but on the type level), but that's not idiomatic io.
 
@Loktar Yeah I paid $200 for something I don't think I will like.
 
const formData = new FormData(form);
fetch(url, {
  method: 'POST',
  body: formData,
  credentials: 'same-origin'
})....
 
4:01 PM
in express, request.body is empty 😒
 
user3119231
@Loktar nope.
 
haha @KendallFrey
yeah I just can't wait to shoot you :P
there is a coop horde mode too
idk it was super fun, my wife caught me though and posted a video on FB...
I had no idea she was in the basement a bit embarrasing
 
lol
I've gotten over embarrassment
 
not sure if it's public or not
 
My sister has taken to calling me "linehead" because of the line it leaves on my forehead
 
4:03 PM
but that's the vid
@KendallFrey LOL
 
I asked her if it's an insult, and then I asked her if she would like to be a linehead
mic drop
@Loktar it's not
 
I don't know what's going on here. I have a jquery ajax call where I have the timeout set to 180000 (3 minutes), but it's still timing out after only 1 minute.
 
the server is probably timing you out
3 minutes is far too long
 
It's not. I was stepping through the backend code. Only the ajax returned a timeout error, not the server.
 
the request timed out either way
 
4:06 PM
somebody timed it out
 
Also, as a developer, I have a shit ton of records I have access to, and it's trying to pull all of it.
That's why it's taking so long. It won't for regular users.
 
!!s/a a/an NSA/
 
@littlepootis Also, an NSA developer, I have a shit ton of records I have access to, and it's trying to pull all of it. (source)
 
@Loktar We never played EVE Valkyrie together did we? I don't think I've ever been shot by you before.
 
@Hypersapien some user will. You're writing a DoS for yourself.
 
4:07 PM
No, I think I'd get woozy now
I need to build up my tolerance again
 
lol really?
 
The point is it seems to be ignoring the timeout field
 
yeah whenever I don't use it for X months I lose my VR legs a bit
takes me a day or two to get them back
 
@Hypersapien there are many timeout fields
 
I'm just trying to get it working, then I'll worry about that part.
 
4:08 PM
@Hypersapien what is timing out after 1 minute
 
walking/standing is fine, but seated experiences get to me lol
 
It's pretty amazing how I can handle something like that just fine
but then fucking minecraft
 
That one bothers you?
I haven't tried it on the rift yet
 
@ssube data is stored in Objects, handlers in functions.
 
Yeah I got pretty sick when I tried Minecraft
 
4:10 PM
anyways, i'm off
 
wonder if it's the locomotion
do you use analog to move forward?
 
I don't remember whether I had it on comfortable settings, I remember messing with them
I used the keyboard I think
 
@KevinB This ajax call
 
with oculus touch though it's going to be cooler for sure
 
where I have the timeout set to 180000
 
4:11 PM
use your hands to chop shit lol
 
what is timing out though?
 
Does Touch replace the look-and-click with the remote?
 
it could be many things causing the timeout
 
yea
 
nice
 
4:11 PM
you can just point at items in oculus home
really nice
 
the webserver, the application, a proxy between you and the server, something local to your pc, etc
 
I wonder if it works with Virtual Desktop
 
you check your oculus account to see if you had a tracking #?
I was reading about a ton of people who never got an email apparently
 
Oh, yeah, I got that the same time you did
 
oh nice!
whens yours due to arrive?
 
4:12 PM
Tomorrow
 
awesome
 
If it's a request that is going to take several minutes to run, the best bet would simply be to set a limit to the result count and paginate it.
 
yeah whenever you want to play together shoot me a message I will for sure
I've never VRd with a friend
 
Is this a bad thing to do in redux?
 
4:12 PM
hmm
 
const mapStateToProps = state => ({
  activeLink: state.chat.link,
});

const mapDispatchToProps = (dispatch, ownProps) => ({
  createLink: () => dispatch(createLink(ownProps.activeLink))
});
 
@Loktar Probably Saturday
 
cool I'll be around, my wifes Bday so might not be until later
will for sure on Sunday though
 
@ssube There's also the fact that it always takes way longer on localhost than it does on live
I extended the timeout in web.config and it's fine now
 
What should I use in nodejs?, is NoSql better or Sql?
 
4:21 PM
depends on who you ask
what would make one "better" than the other to you?
 
@CharlesCraft50 Depends heavily on your application and usage.
 
@CharlesCraft50 nosql is not a single thing you can use
there are good nosql databases like redis and cassandra and graphite and there are bad nosql databases like mongo and mongo
 
ok.. annoyingly vague request here: I am looking for a good 'store' library (or pattern) that isn't tied to anything else (react/angular/mobx/redux, etc).
Not backbone. :)
 
what kind of store?
 
I don't know. Right now each of my pages does it's own api.someObject.get(123) and api.someObject.save(123, { new: 'data' });
 
user1596138
4:26 PM
Lmao @HatterisMad good job
 
user2620028
wut.... what happened
 
@Luggage immutablejs Record?
 
No.
 
user2620028
@Jhawins What did i do?!
 
lemme read what that is to tell you why I said 'no'. one sec. :)
 
4:28 PM
I understand, "no" is a great initial answer to questions, until you decide it's actually worth it.
 
well, I had a vague idea what it was and that I already have that part solved.
 
user1596138
@HatterisMad Idk I read the title
 
I'm using a model that is all mobx-ized and might be adding mobx-utils createViewModel to it.
 
user2620028
@Jhawins Its not my fault, they were being vague!
 
user1596138
4:29 PM
@HatterisMad They do that lol
 
@KendallFrey already posted that, you kitty cat
 
dammit
 
user2620028
i think it was luggage actually
 
user2620028
i blame him regardless of whether that statement is accurate or not
 
It was me.
 
user2620028
 
@ssube yea.. I don't know what I need/want. I was hoping for some general purpose tool, like how we shove React in eveyone face that wants anything view-realted.
 
user2620028
i have been asking for the same thing this past week actually
 
@Luggage I know of a few caching libraries and a few record storage libs, but that's about it.
 
user2620028
there is definitely not a single consensus
 
I actually don't even want caching..
Lemme go play and come up with a more specific need.
 
4:35 PM
 
noice
50 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
http://imgur.com/a/xHON5
did you see this?
 
@ssube is mongo and mongo is MongoDB?
 
@CharlesCraft50 yep, worst piece of shit ever made
 
is x and x is x?
 
4:37 PM
you'll hate it
 
@ssube why?, I was following TheNetNinja nodejs tutorial and he used MongoDB for JSON
 
I don't see it
ohh it's one of those stupid zoomies
 
@CharlesCraft50 it looks so enticing at first.. like it's perfect for JavaScript, but it's just a poor database and any other real database store JSON objects, too
 
How about PostgreSQL, I will try to use that because I use heroku
 
Postgres is great.
 
4:41 PM
@KendallFrey I like to make subtle spelling mistakes in most of my messages to see if people will notice.
 
Postgres is a very solid 'traditional' ralational DB with all the features you'd want. Also it can store JSON blobs, if you need that type of schemaless thing.
 
@rlemon nah you don't
 
@Luggage So can MySQL 😛
 
@KendallFrey of course I do (no pun intended)
 
MySQL is an asshole.
 
user1596138
4:43 PM
@rlemon lol wtf who is that stupid
 
It's a better choice than Mongo, though.
 
@Jhawins that guy
!!afk 👁 👨 🐴
 
MySQL has too many oddities when compared to other relational DBs. I can port code between MSSQL, Oracle and Postgres way simpler than to/from MySQL. Also, it lets you do things, like not include all columns in your GROUP BY that let you get results with malformed queries.
 
I used MySQL before for PHP
 
MySQL is undeserving of it's popularity. It just came along at the right time, did things worse that postgres but got all the fame.
But people are waking up.
 
4:47 PM
@BenFortune but postgres works without tuning, mysql doesn't.
 
Right.. in the right hands MySQL is capable, but Postgres is just a solution in a box. (well, it needs tuning like any DB when your needs grow..)
 
We use percona.com at work, which fixes everything MySQL couldn't
 
I'm familiar with percona. it fixes a few things but, meh.
Most of my complaints might be better directed at InnoDB, which is a pile.
except the loose querying.. that's all MySQL
 
@BenFortune lol
it makes a few small changes
 
When I went from Postgres to MySQL and lost Common Table Expressions, I had to murder like 50 kittens to feel normal again..
 
4:53 PM
Percona's support is good, their "products" aren't worth the price tag.
 
They give you some online backup capabilities that you can also pay Oracle for.
 
still better than 10gen, whose favorite support line was "um, we haven't tested that"
 
I use MySQL because I use PHP, two things that everyone frowns on.
 
perhaps, but you use what you use. you can't undo all past choices overnight
if they were even your choices.
We'd only berate you for choosing MySQL and php for green field development.
 
@AmericanSlime But do you get paid?
 
4:59 PM
The only place I use MySQL is an environment where I had 0 luck installing postgres
 
I'm intentionally going to a company that uses both, I'm just not going to touch the PHP. :P
 
@Loktar Of course. Ain't no charity work here.
 

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