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10:00 PM
=)
 
@Meredith I used to know (And work with) a grown man you listened to them
it was awful
 
how do you define a grown man
50+
 
@ssube oboi
 
@ziGi I think it's measured in kilos
 
@tereško raka maka fone
 
10:01 PM
@ziGi owned his own house
had a wife and a car and a job
 
haha sounds like my dad :D
 
yet listened to disturbed, and otep, and drowning pool, and hollywood undead
 
My dad listens to neil young and jimmy buffet
 
nobody could respect him
 
hahaha OOoooh yeeeeeaaaah
jimmy buffet is the best ahahha
 
10:02 PM
question sorry what is the conversation about ?
 
@ssube well that is a bit stupid, why should music define your age?
 
@ziGi it doesn't?
 
especially why would you lose respect because you listen to wilder music
than others your age?
 
it's just that he listened to really bad (creepy school-shooter-y) music and thought it was legitimately good
 
maybe he's nostalgic about the past
when he was a teen
 
10:04 PM
@ziGi music defines the age in which you want to be
 
that sounds interesting
what if you listen to classic music?
 
before I leave for the day, one last classic
 
@ziGi Disturbed isn't exactly wild
It's like "I'm 14 and this is wild"
 
@Meredith they're just creepy and violent
 
basically, some people tend to listen to the music they liked when they felt it was their "best time in life"
 
10:05 PM
@tereško yeah, that's cause it triggers memories
 
@tereško Only when I'm drunk
 
"some people"
 
that's an interesting article
 
the online communities tend to be less attached to their age group
and maybe many of the computer geeks think that "best time" is in the future
 
@ssube 21st century schizoid maaaaaan
daam dadadam da daaaaaaam
 
that was dumb
 
well it's funny if you have watched Bruce Almighty
 
I had bruce almighty on dvd
And we had a dvd player in the car
So I watched that movie like 12 times
 
it starts to get boring after the 1-2 time
 
Yep.
 
10:22 PM
Folks, what time zone do browsers use when they check cookies for expiration? Is it UTC or browser's own local?
 
gosh darn it, I spent THREE hours on the phone today
 
on a banana phone?
 
@floor Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@KendallFrey yeah, I had a girlfriend too, once
 
10:25 PM
@KendallFrey don't worry, that's average for girls on a daily basis
 
not for work
 
@FlorianMargaine That seems awkward. Suppose, a server wants to set a cookie with a lifetime of 2 hours. The server uses its own local time, but its in a different time zone 3 hours earlier w.r.t browser. Then the server would set a cookie that expires immediately.
 
@Caprica
@CapricaSix are you a bot?
 
@NickAlexeev actually, my bad. All dates are UTC.
> All HTTP date/time stamps MUST be represented in Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), without exception. For the purposes of HTTP, GMT is exactly equal to UTC (Coordinated Universal Time).
 
@floor She is
 
10:29 PM
@KendallFrey how is a bot a she?
 
@FlorianMargaine Phew. Then the if the server uses UTC for setting cookie expiration, browser uses UTC too. All consistent.
 
like that
 
@KendallFrey a bot is still a bot
 
@floor In the same way a ship is always a she
 
@monners I see your point but I disagree
 
10:34 PM
Everybody get on the @floor! This is the police!
 
@floor Actually, the bot is a she by nature of being named after a female android
 
And the fact that she has breasteses
 
you do realize that when AI evolves enough to be smart as the stupidest person in the world and it can upgrade itself, it will surpass the smartest person in the world in matter of hours
because of the biological limitations that we have
 
@ziGi i think it's a faulty assumption
 
10:40 PM
Andro = dude, gyno = chick
 
@tereško why
 
That explains androgyny
 
@ziGi nobody said that an AI will be able to write code
 
@Meredith that reminds me of a quote from Knocked Up
"I may only practice gynecology as a hobby BUT.."
xD
 
Lol
 
10:42 PM
and I am currently assuming that writing AI code would require a genius level intellect
 
@tereško I am not talking about artificial narrow intelligence which we currently have and we are upgrading
I am referring to artificial general intelligence
 
yes
same here
"intellect" and "skill" are two separate attributes
 
true
I am not really sure how AGI works exactly
 
noone is
 
I don't think the intellect would reprogram and recompile
but rather change behavioral patterns and neuron connections
if it is built that way
 
10:44 PM
@tereško @ziGi what if we made AI and it decided it wanted to be stupid
 
well, it can only do that if there is no purpose and it develops the same way evolution does
 
@ziGi you are assuming that AI would be modeled after biological analogs
 
but if it learns about things the way we learn
@tereško yes, there might be a smarter way, but I am just dumb to know any better than that
 
@floor If it's programmed with self-preservation, then choosing to be stupid would in itself be stupid
 
@ziGi you just assumed that AI would be some type of ANN
 
10:46 PM
however, having in mind that many of the machine learning techniques are similar to the ways things evolve
@tereško yes, that is just an assumption
 
@ziGi How's that?
 
the current consensus is that artificial neural networks cannot power a strong AI
 
I did not know about that
 
@tereško @ziGi @KendallFrey k-state.edu/english/baker/english287/…
 
do you have an article that supports that?
 
10:48 PM
@ziGi not on hand. I just remember the fact.
 
If the AI was really smart and realized to be happy its best to be stupid why not change?
assuming we gave the AI the ability to feel
 
"happy" is a side-effect of dopamine
 
stupid generally means not conducive to self-preservation
so a stupid AI would kill itself eventually
 
stupid is a general word I am using
you know what I mean
do I need to be technical?
 
well I am sure
 
10:51 PM
Well you can't just give it any definition you want
 
that given different aims
 
@floor We typically don't, it's best to overexplain
 
an AI can learn
especially if genetic algorithms are applied
 
isn't dopamine just an hormone that connects the brain's synapses the right way?
it's just the ODBC connector
 
^
the point is those happiness is just a chemical
 
10:52 PM
@ziGi what are "genetic algorithms" ?
 
I think you're implying that a "stupid" AI would be one that's pursuing a goal different then we would expect it to
 
I am implying a wise unhappy AI may rather be a stupid happy AI
 
type of a heuristic algorithm
In the field of artificial intelligence, a genetic algorithm (GA) is a search heuristic that mimics the process of natural selection. This heuristic (also sometimes called a metaheuristic) is routinely used to generate useful solutions to optimization and search problems. Genetic algorithms belong to the larger class of evolutionary algorithms (EA), which generate solutions to optimization problems using techniques inspired by natural evolution, such as inheritance, mutation, selection, and crossover. Genetic algorithms find application in bioinformatics, phylogenetics, computational scienc...
 
and after the technological singularity, they would do that
@floor OK, you really need to define wise and stupid now
we can describe an AI in behaviour, not in words like "stupid"
 
how can you describe a human as stupid then
 
10:54 PM
A stupid human is usually one that does something that would endanger them
 
well stupid in the sense of the connections of the knowledge it has I guess
 
like trying to backflip a fourwheeler
 
oh look a couple definitions of stupid arose
we all get the general idea
 
I think stupid people just do things on more primitive level without thinking about them
 
@ziGi that would be stupid, not deciding to be stupid, right?
 
10:54 PM
which is not that easy, it's mostly coded in the DNA
 
@floor We are programmers, there is no "general idea"
 
@KendallFrey not necessarily
 
47 secs ago, by ziGi
I think stupid people just do things on more primitive level without thinking about them
I would disagree
"stupid" usually describes an individual, whose ability to simulate (predict outcome of future action) is lower then average
 
@KendallFrey do you know what pseudocode is?
 
sure
 
10:57 PM
@tereško I like your definition
 
I would also disagree. Primal does not imply unintelligence, it implies basic instinct. It has a connotation of unintelligence but that's a false pretense I believe.
 
@tereško is that because of lack of knowledge or because of low intelligence as well?
 
@KendallFrey pseudocode is general....
 
that's why we don't code in pseudocode
 
@ziGi when you use the word "stupid", you are talking about both of those
 
10:57 PM
The urge to mate is primal, but there is no intelligence implied there. As is the primal urge to eat and sleep.
 
@KendallFrey are we coding?
 
I(am)
 
@rlemon that explains your lack of talking
 
nope, just got in from work
 
@tereško so in that sense animals are completely stupid because they cannot predict future and imagine outcomes
 
10:59 PM
@SterlingArcher In for supporting rape abuse & incest
 
which actually separates people from animals
 
@ziGi my cat knows when it is in my room and I stand up fast time to gtfo
I'd say she is predicting future outcomes
 
completely? more liek inherently
 
@Mosho thanks man :)
 
@rlemon that's where you are wrong my friend
she does that because she reacts to previous experiences
 
10:59 PM
as a long time pet owner. I 100% disagree with your statements.
 

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