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12:00 PM
@Zirak lol ^^
@Zirak question about what?
 
@FlorianMargaine Why doesn't ((foo)) or (foo x) don't work when foo is a variable/expression
 
@Zirak err, the link to the namespace doesn't explain it?
 
@FlorianMargaine It does, I get it, but there should be a canonical question about it
 
@Zirak ah :)
 
Someone wondering the same thing won't stumble upon the namespaces one
 
12:02 PM
note that scheme doesn't have several namespaces
so this isn't possible: (defun foo (list) (list list))
 
btw, have you any opinion on learnlispthehardway.org ?
@FlorianMargaine Yearp! It's define for both
 
@Zirak nope, didn't know it
PCL is what I recommend
 
Practical Common Lisp?
 
I had fun with this book: nostarch.com/lisp.htm
 
@KendallFrey
Charon highest res image yet
 
very cool
 
user3119231
@rlemon your profile sucks. I see pizza - I want pizza .__.
 
!!pizza 800 600
 
12:22 PM
ugh
stupid server
 
Fuck fuck fuck fuck
Company has gone from administration to liquidation
Might not even get fucking paid
 
ouch
 
user3119231
Use your chance and move to germany as refugee :D
 
fill your pockets with hard drives.
 
join nirmal baba army
 
12:30 PM
Was meant to be getting paid on Monday
I have like £25 in my bank
lmao
 
user3119231
Refugees get 143€ here ... :P
 
so, he'll have £40
 
The UK is not in a war.
Well, in the UK
 
user3119231
You don't have to say you're from uk.
 
user3119231
@FlorianMargaine 124
 
12:33 PM
Yeah, I picked up this broad English accent from Afghanistan.
@rlemon Accept my PR, I want a tshirt!
 
user image
3
 
@rlemon so true
 
user3119231
 
@rlemon I didn't get that
 
12:37 PM
do you own a cat?
 
no
 
@rlemon wtf
 
your cat doesn't bite you when it is done with pets?
 
@BenFortune sucks... but you won't have too big troubles of getting a new job, right?
 
user3119231
 
user3119231
12:38 PM
@AwalGarg here you go
 
@GNi33 Hopefully not
 
now i gotta look up where bradford is
 
@rlemon it does
 
Reminds me, need to ring a recruiter that left a voicemail earlier
 
good luck, man
 
12:38 PM
but, it's not human-sized
and doesn't have a suit
 
@GNi33 Cheers :)
 
you're living dangerously close to Leeds
 
@FlorianMargaine the adventures of business cat
 
@rlemon I know how to read, thank you very much
 
do you?
 
12:40 PM
do I what?
 
user3119231
read.
 
if (read(fd, &result, sizeof(result)) != sizeof(result))
I do!
 
@GNi33 Bradford is far worse.
 
@Zirak sizeof foo or sizeof(foo)?
 
really? well, that's your chance to bounce
what's bad about Bradford?
 
user3119231
12:41 PM
if (Math.floor((Math.random() * 2) + 1) == 1){
	alert("no you can't");
else{
	alert("no, even not here.");
}
 
if( Math.random()>.5 ) ...
 
function getrandom() { return 4; }
 
o/
 
\o
 
12:42 PM
^ french
 
@GNi33 Ethnic gangs etc
 
@FlorianMargaine Latter
 
fu :D
@Zirak but you use typeof foo and not typeof(foo)
 
It just sort of...makes more sense
It's probably just habit
 
user3119231
12 minutes till freedom...
 
12:47 PM
@FlorianMargaine I don't know many people that use the latter, I've always seen the former
 
@Maurize Find a different place to work if that's how you feel
 
user3119231
@Zirak no, there won't be a better place. watching youtube videos, develope what you want to -
 
there will be
working on challenging exciting projects that you don't wanna escape from
 
@Maurize Are you satisfied?
 
user3119231
@Zirak yup. I have a project for months. If it's done I have some time for learning, ect.
 
12:50 PM
already pinned x.x
 
cc @Loktar @Kitler \o/
short people rejoice!
 
What do you count as "tall"?
 
you
 
12:55 PM
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Q: Multer throwing weird error while uploading file via ng-file upload

Ranganathan SwamyI did some research upon this and I still don't know what is going on here. The google has irrelevant search result or the given error code/message. Here is my angular controller, simply based upon api code and samples of ng-file upload on ng-file upload. var app = angular.module('fileUpload'...

 
Is 6'2" tall?
 
crl
quite
 
user image
4
 
So I am more likely to get cancer?
 
crl
the taller, the more cells you have right?
 
12:59 PM
@rlemon for a moment there I thought rebecca
 
I dunno everyone looks pretty much the same height to me. A few inches isn't much of a difference now is it?
 
aaaaaaand work time
 
> Someone: Ha, I am 6'3". An _inch_ taller than you!
> Me: alright?
 
@AwalGarg Hey, I am 6'2" as well. 190 cms :-)
 
1:04 PM
hi!
 
how can I increase my height?
 
@thefourtheye aha, Chennai! Ever been to Delhi?
 
@rlemon Did you ever have glitches where chest items just...disappeared?
 
no
@Harish break your shins
 
@Harish Jump off a cliff
 
1:08 PM
@Harish how tall are you right now?
 
crl
this.height++;
 
Distraction osteogenesis, also called callus distraction, callotasis, and osteodistraction, is a surgical process used to reconstruct skeletal deformities and lengthen the long bones of the body. A corticotomy is used to fracture the bone into two segments, and the two bone ends of the bone are gradually moved apart during the distraction phase, allowing new bone to form in the gap. When the desired or possible length is reached, a consolidation phase follows in which the bone is allowed to keep healing. Distraction osteogenesis has the benefit of simultaneously increasing bone length and the volume...
 
@AwalGarg less than all of you.
 
That's not an absolute quantity
 
You definitely are shorter than all of us combined
 
1:09 PM
who is less height here?
 
@AwalGarg Nope :( But I badly want to see it
 
crl
who is talk english here?
 
@crl Not you, obviously.
 
@thefourtheye haha it's a pretty nice place. If you need an excuse to plan a journey, meetup.com might help :)
 
I am yao ming tall
 
1:11 PM
 
lol
 
lol
 
lol
 
well played
 
@AwalGarg Well, its nice to hear that its a nice place :-) I'll visit soon
 
1:13 PM
:)
 
Another school shooting in Oregon, jesus fucking christ.
 
Although if you have a girlfriend, don't take her to shopping or your day shall be spoilt.
 
@BenFortune But you gotta fear the terrorists in Afghanistan threatening the safety of the American people, right?
 
@BenFortune archive.moe/r9k/thread/22785073 for the real wtf
 
1:16 PM
@ivarni Oh my..
@rlemon Ooh, I have a spare laptop screen that might work with that
 
> I suggest you enter a classroom and tell people that you will take them as hostages. Make everyone get in one corner and then open fire.

Make sure that there is no way that someone can disarm you as it it possible. I suggest you carry a knife on your belt as last resort if someone is holding your gun.
what the fuck
 
That thread is all kinds of disturbing
 
@ivarni It's happened before
A few times actually
 
npm being hella slow for ev eryone?
 
@rlemon Aye
@rlemon Gonna buy an LCD controller board and try that
 
1:21 PM
I've got a shitty old android tablet
might be able to hack something together
 
Apparently android runs on the pi2 too, great.
 
Does git maintain any global system wide registry/state?
 
You have ~/.gitconfig for --global stuff, but that's about it
@rlemon Don't quite get it: He basically just mounted his tablet behind a mirror?
 
basically yes
 
Wait how's that possible
 
1:24 PM
one way mirror
 
I mean, obviously the screen won't be visible on both sides
m'kay
 
if you have bright enough lights behind the one way mirror you can see them on the other side
 
I'm awaiting the promised days of giant touch screens
 
It'll be interesting to see what replaces the keyboard. Touchscreen keyboards don't offer the same feedback, it's much less convenient to type for long periods of time on them.
 
1:27 PM
@Kitler 4chan... r9k is a fucking mess
 
r9k is hilarious, then I found out they were serious. All this time I thought it was just satire everyone was in on
 
@Zirak direct neural interfaces
 
@rlemon I'm not talking about end-of-days, I'm talking a decade from now
 
passive neural interfaces
 
I'm so upset. I found the perfect color car with the red/black carbon fiber interior, for an amazing price, but it was in an accident..
 
1:29 PM
@BenFortune ooohhhh
 
I want a touch keyboard implementation which is only very slightly visible, and you know where the keys are because you are a programmer. And when you press a key, the key gives some slight feedback to show it is the key you aimed for.
 
@SterlingArcher So?
 
Just a fender bender, but the dealership doesn't have details so I can't bring myself to buy it
I can't visit the car in person to inspect it, and I can't know if said fender bender shook something loose or something
It's just too much risk
 
!!weather kitchener ontario
 
@rlemon Waterloo: 5.67C (278.82K), sky is clear
 
1:30 PM
-_- and it begins...
 
!!weather herndon va
 
@SterlingArcher Herndon: 51.3319F (10.74C, 283.89K), moderate rain, mist, light intensity drizzle
 
drizzle intensifies
 
bleh... mongo is being so annoying today
 
!!s/is.+?today//
 
1:31 PM
@BenFortune bleh... mongo (source)
 
@corvid (@BenFortune) Do you know the red pill and their "constitution"? It's...frightening.
 
@Zirak TL;DR?
 
yeah looks like a joke
 
I assume it is expensive, but I'm not sure if node does anything fancy to fs.exists -- is it really so bad on performance?
 
@BenFortune Women are brainless bimbos who use sex to get their ways, good guys are hurt and abused, good guys shouldn't take it any more.
 
1:34 PM
Would you guys ever buy a car that was in an accident before? The carfax says airbags weren't deployed, but the lack of information regarding what was replaced etc, is unavailable.
 
@corvid It's really, really not a joke
 
An issue w. the loop. Applying the last iteration to every instance. If I grasped how exactly d3 works it would help. stackoverflow.com/questions/32903210/… , thanks anyone
 
@rlemon huh? What're you talking about?
 
@Zirak lorempizza, I will save images now instead of generating them all on the fly
 
@rlemon exists is deprecated
 
1:36 PM
but it seems wasteful to check fs.exists every time
 
@sterling been there. it was in a flood. much worse in the long run
 
You could just use readFile and check for errors?
 
@rlemon exists (which shouldn't be used btw, since there's a disreperancy between call time and result time, so it's the one thing you should use the synchronous version of) just calls the lower-level exists, so it's not expensive
 
@BenFortune what I'm really asking is: should I check the fs every time someone tries to gen an image or should I keep a ref to its path in memory for all files known to exist
 
@rlemon How about this: Assume the file exists, and it if errors, go the other way.
 
1:37 PM
hrm. I'll try it out
 
creating a read stream everytime sounds more expensive to me
 
right now spinning up gm for every request seems to be what is crashing the server
 
I don't know if it's possible, but you can try to have nginx (or whatever) serve the files, and have node handle the 404s (create, serve & write them)
 
@Zirak Nginscript >:)
 
Why does windows take so long to compile everything? :| It literally takes 10x as long as my macbook
 
1:45 PM
more CPU or RAM?
 
/SSD
 
CPU. I am building a WebGL/JavaScript project with electron
 
Eh, so what are you compiling?
 
@Zirak what's the lower level version of exists?
 
@FlorianMargaine Of fs.exists? I think node calls stat and checks if it errored
So c's stat
 
1:53 PM
I think it's C's access
Let's check
 
Wonder why they don't call access, as you said that's the canonical way
 
Duh
lisp has probe-file btw
 
also, lol:
if (callback) callback(err ? false : true);
 
lol
 
2:05 PM
Guys. If you're using futures, you're not supposed to use callbacks, right?
 
crl
futures? promises?
 
I prefer the present
 
I thought futures were just promises?
 
also, callbacks are natural in javascript; you shouldn't use Promises for everything; that would be abusing them
 
get Edge and use async/await
 
2:08 PM
Same shit, different name. "Futures" is the more popular name in Java or Python or whatnot.
 
or use babel with experimental features turned on
 
crl
Future: a seemingly deprecated term found in some popular references 1 and at least one popular implementation, 8 but seemingly being phased out of discussion in preference for the term 'promise' 3 and not always mentioned in popular introductions to the topic. stackoverflow.com/a/18858041/3183756
 
@Nick Well, you should use them when they make sense
 
iirc, futures and promises are different in scala, aren't they?
 
Well, it's more like, something is executing and will resolve at a specific point. But while it's running, it will send messages and I want to parse those messages asynchronously
 
2:09 PM
@Zirak Yes, of course, but not every instance that warrants a callback should also warrant a promise
 
@corvid "Messages" is plural, promise is singular. Observables are what you need (they generalise plural values over time), they won't be in until ES7 (draft isn't even complete).
So in that case, no, you don't need a promise, since it's not a value
 
Observables will be so nice when they come out
 
you can already use them
e.g. rxjs, beaconjs, etc.
 
crl
!!s/be/b/
 
2:13 PM
@crl e.g. rxjs, baconjs, etc. (source)
 
I need a word... It's like interstitial, but instead of it showing up in between two things, it shows up within one thing, or between two parts of the same thing, if you must
interruption?
> an act, utterance, or period that interrupts someone or something.
yeah
 
Prototype inheritance question:
var a = {
  test: function() {
    console.log('a.test');
  }
};
var b = Object.create(a);
b.test = function() {
  this.prototype.test(); // This is wrong. Why?
  console.log('b.test');
};
b.test();
I would expect to be able to call a.test inside of b.test, but I can't. Why not?
 
user1596138
My neighbor won a gold plated PS4 bundle from Taco Bell -.-
 
user1596138
I want one
 
why
the white one is cooler
 
user1596138
2:21 PM
lol really? What's special about it?
 
user1596138
Is it white gold plated..
 
I won a PSP from taco bell once
 
user1596138
Ohhhh
 
user1596138
They're just gold colored
 
noob
 
user1596138
2:22 PM
Psh fuck that I don't care then haha
 
user1596138
I got a bug this morning, the "screenshot" of it was a picture of someone's phone screen haha
 
Did you cry?
I bet you cried.
Yeah you cried.
 
crl
we should have a !!s/foo/bar/g , but I don't know what would be the scope of it, maybe only on one user's messages
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher Why lol
 
@crl We do have that
 
crl
2:30 PM
oh, ok (gotta see the docs)
 
user1596138
@crl well the /g is going to be for the match itself. A multiple message flag of some kind would be annoying
 
@crl you meant /m
 
user1596138
@Zirak I think he means all messages not /g as in global match but as in any message
 
user1596138
Oh yeah multiline makes sense lol
 
user1596138
I am working from in front of the fireplace today.
 
2:32 PM
@RoelvanUden .prototype is on constructors, not instances. you want __proto__ or, better, yet, Object.getPrototypeOf();
If you had a constructor (you don't) then you could do this.constructor.prototype.test();
 
hey everyone
 
i´ve been searching for a good example but its not working has i expected, can anyone point me to a good example about fading in the body background image when the page loads?
i don´t want to use a div...because the image is fixed
 
@Loktar ping
 
@Japa put a fullpage div in front of the image and fade that out.
 
crl
2:40 PM
!!ping rlemon
 
@Luggage Hm, yeah, but I want to inherit the actual object. I just want to run some additional code when a function is called through the new object, and everything else should pass through (hence I thought prototype inheritance was a good match)
 
@ssube that´s a great idead
*idea
thanks man
 
@RoelvanUden it's the same, really. You are defining a prototype and no constructor, i am defining both. But in the end you are still making a new object, B, with a prototype with test() on it.
 
@CapricaSix god I love that video
 
2:42 PM
hey
 
@dodge901 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
anyone here
 
anyone here doing gulp-babel + express ??
 
What do they have to do with each other?
 
2:42 PM
can anyone show me their tight code
 
gulp-babel and express, I mean.
 
well s/express/node web app/
 
@dodge901 Be more specific.
 
> tight code
 
I am looking to get an example project for structure / how deps are handled in the dist / etc
 
2:43 PM
I'm a leet dank tight coder hacker rockstar
 
i only write loose code
 
:)
 
ohh, i see. hm..
 
@rlemon I webpack my server-side scripts...
 
@rlemon I only have examples of what not to do...
 
2:44 PM
gives you a single file to redist
 
hrm.
 
loosely coupled, if you know what i'm saying
 
Webpack is so much better
 
if you catch my cold
 
mainly I'm trying to figure out how people manage their package.json for the distribution
 
2:44 PM
@NathanJones Your mother is considered the pinnacle of modular software design on account of how loose her couplings tend to be.
 
hm.. i don't webpack by server.. but..
 
@ssube at least my dad doesn't inject his dependencies into every module he sees
 
@LanaKane ew
 
user1596138
@Zirak yea I know
 
2:53 PM
@rlemon whats up
 
@SterlingArcher The company one has mixed conventions
GenerateFibonacciDataView
Someone was loosey goosey in their CR
 
Careful, all this talk of loose geese will summon Kendall
 
that sounded way funnier in my head
 
@rlemon Um. Just upload your app (without node_modules and all the stuff that comes from package manager), npm install, and then run?
 

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