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12:00 PM
I'm not against the idea of it but it isn't something I do.
 
Even if you had that amount of money? Even when a thousand dollars is mere change?
 
Sure.
 
Might as well go all "Joker" on that pile of cash then.
 
Being a millionnaire doesnt make "a thousand dollars mere change", especially if you got the million due to the habit of trying to spare 5$ every day
 
If someone asked for money I'd give them it, if you want to call that charity.
I don't actively participate in charity.
Because I get nothing from it.
 
12:01 PM
Just trying to make a point, @dystroy
 
@Sippy can I have a few thousand $ please ?
 
I don't have a few thousand to give you :)
 
You can have a few dollars
 
12:03 PM
@Sippy fine, I'll get them
 
@dystroy I have a few K Euros. Is it the same?
 
Because that's what I got.
 
@Sippy maybe you really should spare 5$ a day then
 
My point was that if you haven't done what you want to do with your life by the time you're 60, you've wasted a lot of time. A million dollars isn't going to buy you that time back, or your youth.
 
wait.. you have dollars in the UK?
 
12:03 PM
No.
We have pounds.
But no one knows what they are.
:D
 
So, life beyond 60 is pointless?
 
I have pounds. 190 of them.
 
Europeans surely do, not sure about americans and asians and africans
any african here?
 
Can you see the connection between pounds and pesos?
they surely mean the same thing. but as the similarity ^O^
 
@Cerbrus Life beyond 70 is pointless, to me. I will aim to be set and have everything I could buy with money by 60.
 
12:04 PM
@Sippy I'm surprised. It looks like you people thinks a million dollars is the key to live your lives. It changes about nothing, especially when you're young (later it can help in case of health problem, I guess)
 
!!s/ound/eso/
 
actually... has any african ever got to this chat?
 
@Cerbrus That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
@Cerbrus Can you see the connection between pesos and pesos? (source)
 
@towc of course, silly racist
 
translate: pesos
 
12:05 PM
@AdamBarak That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
@dystroy I'm just saying a shitload of money isn't gonna do much for you later in life when you've already done everything.
 
@KendallFrey It's just that I don't think I've seen any
 
You can't have done "everything" by the time you're 60
 
and was curious about maybe having seen them but not knowing they were african
 
I didn't say everything.
 
12:06 PM
@Cerbrus like being 61
 
58 secs ago, by Sippy
@dystroy I'm just saying a shitload of money isn't gonna do much for you later in life when you've already done everything.
 
Actually I did, my bad.
 
^"Everyting"
 
@towc I saw one the other day and he looked like a great dev
 
I meant to say everything I want.
 
12:06 PM
@AdamBarak in this chat? name?
 
he was from Cape City or something like that
 
All that I aim to achieve in life that hinges on earnings or on money
 
in south Africa
 
I repeat: Oh ye of little imagination
 
@towc no on main site
 
12:07 PM
Why does that mean my imagination is limited?
 
@AdamBarak I'm asking about this chat. Just to not make any confusion: I'm not saying they're bad devs
 
How does my difference of opinion give you the right to tell me I have no imagination in this context?
 
Do I really need to explain that? o.O
 
Yes.
 
@towc Never said that. I just wanted to underline its high quality as a developer
 
12:08 PM
ok
 
Yea, not gonna.
 
Then stop making the point.
 
because many are just mediocre devs, be it black, white, red or green
 
I am not able to understand the difference between classes and prototype :S
 
@AdamBarak what???? green devs are the best
none of them is mediocre
 
12:09 PM
Most people in <profession> are mediocre. Always.
 
even green devs? Show me a mediocre green dev and I'll say you're right
 
Hi guys, is there a jquery function that has the ability to do 2 slidedowns.. So 1 slidedown to make it vsible and another to slide it down to exit?
 
@towc nah they come from Shaloni, a planet known for its bad engineers and devs
 
@towc Bill Kerman, perhaps
 
@Naruto .toggle()
@KendallFrey ok, you won -_-
 
12:12 PM
mjhbgavuyjhb jhzbyjv ehbgyu jhdbtg tkhzuh bureoh
 
@AwalGarg gdfuvsdafgsdafiochsdi vdfvdsiv kdi iofsfds iokfsd fio
 
red people actually exist
on earth
 
@AdamBarak why, green don't?
 
they're bleeding
 
@towc wat?
 
12:12 PM
@AwalGarg dunno
what did you just type?
 
@towc no they don't live on earth :P
 
@towc why did you type it then?
@towc 'wat?'
 
nein zu sein native americans
 
1 min ago, by Awal Garg
mjhbgavuyjhb jhzbyjv ehbgyu jhdbtg tkhzuh bureoh
 
lol
 
12:14 PM
wat?
 
wat?
 
have a cookie
 
...and having positive number can be replaced??? — C-link Nepal 1 min ago
What is he trying to say? o.O
 
why this makes no sense to me...
83
Q: prototype based vs. class based inheritance

Stefano BoriniIn javascript, every object is at the same time instance and class. To do inheritance, you can use any object instance as a prototype. In python, C++, etc.. there are classes, and instances, as separate concepts. In order to do inheritance, you have to use the base class to create a new class, w...

 
ath jerwhal - towc
 
12:15 PM
@AdamBarak that explains everything
 
sure :D
about you :-)
 
@CustomizedName after actually using prototypes and understanding them, I prefer them over classes etc.
 
@towc That's the same as using slideDown / slideUp, I actually want slidedown / slidedown
 
@Naruto just nest 2 elements, slide the first, then slide the second
why would you want a double slidedown anyway?
 
@dystroy Do you think the title of this question need to be changed to "Why did javascript go in this direction (prototype-based object orientation) ?"
 
12:17 PM
@towc Element comes in from above and disappears below..
 
@towc your blue shirt almost makes your username look blue like you're a moderator, when you look peripherally at it
 
@AwalGarg I think I got the concept now
 
@CustomizedName wat?
 
@Naruto oh!
 
@IanClark o/
 
12:18 PM
Shouldn't a mentioned user be pinged just one time even if that message is edited afterwards?
it's annoying to remove the at symbol when you want to edit a message and not annoy the end user too
 
@AwalGarg :)
lo all
 
looo
 
@IanClark you are a regular in the python room, right?
 
@Naruto I don't think there is a custom function for that... do $('thingie').on('click', function(){... /* maybe store in a variable whether the element should open or close and then use an animation */...}
 
@AwalGarg, correct :)
 
12:20 PM
@AdamBarak I am a mod
 
I sit in here quite a bit too, I just rarely have the time to contribute much :(
 
@AwalGarg I sit in here quite a bit too, I just rarely have the tige to contribute much :( (source)
 
@towc now fucking change that behaviour you dumb mod, then!
:D
 
@CapricaSix nah the prvious one u idiot
 
@CustomizedName I don't see why we would want to rename this old question (personally I don't like those fuzzy open-ended questions)
 
12:20 PM
kidding
!!are you an idiot?
 
@AdamBarak Indubitably
 
@AdamBarak which behaviour?
 
@towc the pinging of a user when you want to edit a message
 
I don't understand what triggers the bot to copy stuff?
 
12:22 PM
oh wait.. you need to be a dev like @MarcGravell
:P
 
@AdamBarak it's intended
@IanClark ?
 
@IanClark she is crazy...
 
@towc It's intended but many people wanted to kill me for that
 
-2
A: Remove hyphen from variable

dwanaAnd if Math.abs is to mainstream for your liking (don't recommand this though) var extraDivs = Math.sqrt(Math.pow(extraDivs), 2));

... WAT
 
@towc look at my message prior to that, @AwalGarg triggered something that got "her" to copy my message but slightly modded
 
12:23 PM
@AdamBarak I meant, I intended it
 
ahhh ok
 
Hey guys, I have been trying to make a thing to convert from GMT time to local. The only (big) problem is that i am in GMT and am not sure this works properly.. jsbin-link can someone check if the output is correct for your timezone?
 
@towc mm.. I'll guess i'll have to write my own inventive function then :P
 
@IanClark !!s/regex/replacement/
 
@AdamBarak if it's only like a grammar thing then you should not ping again, but if it changes the whole meaning
@Naruto good thinking
@IanClark it's !!s/what to modify/modification
 
12:24 PM
@AwalGarg and it applies to the above message?
 
it takes the last message containing what to modify
 
!!s/it/doesn't/
 
@IanClark doesn't takes the last message containing what to modify (source)
 
and echos it replacing that with the modification
 
@AwalGarg did you sent me link to presentation on ECMA-6
 
12:24 PM
@IanClark the most recent message which matches the pattern.
 
@towc I'm actually picky of my own grammar :D
 
oooh
 
@IanClark it just did :P
 
When I have to debate there will be someone without arguments picking up on my grammar anyway
 
You have to be quick then
 
12:25 PM
:P
 
@IanClark yep :P
 
@CustomizedName I did. <aside class="question">what are you smoking?</aside>
 
What's <aside> used for?
 
@AdamBarak a semantical div used for listing links
 
hahaha
 
12:26 PM
sidebar
 
Never used
wait I did...
xD
 
@towc dat wasn't my intent though...
 
@Busata not according to the specs
 
@AwalGarg All I can see is they add a reserved word "let" and hyping it all over there presentation xD
 
@AwalGarg I noticed
 
12:27 PM
"The HTML <aside> Element represents a section of a page that consists of content that is tangentially related to the content around it, which could be considered separate from that content. Such sections are often represented as sidebars or as inserts. They often contain side explanations, like a glossary definition; more loosely related stuff, like advertisements; the biography of the author; or in web-applications, profile information or related blog links."
 
I just use <div>. it's shorter and guaranteed to work everywhere
 
yes
 
@CustomizedName what do you want from me?
 
@AdamBarak it's semantically incorrect
 
you can use div for everything then
 
12:28 PM
@AdamBarak <p>
 
Who cares about semantics if it works :P
 
@AwalGarg a ground breaking kiss :P
 
@AdamBarak can I just kill you???
 
SEO?
 
I use <div> for everything - head, body, header - it's all div
 
12:28 PM
This is a thing about size vs beauty
 
@AdamBarak and readability
 
if you care about size more than about readability
shudder
 
you should always care first about readability, then beauty and size come later
 
@IanClark the ones you mentioned are actually the good ones because you can omit their final tag
@towc @Busata I mean in production
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/16965515/… is slowly turning into my best answer
 
12:29 PM
development code is another thing
 
..
 
@AdamBarak exspecially in production
 
@CustomizedName If you leave me one more confusing message, I will break you into the ground.
 
@towc LOL
 
Oh @rlemon I used that for my comparison tool :)
 
12:30 PM
what do you do, automagically replace all your html tags with divs when you put code into production? :P
 
hehe
 
@rlemon -1 not enough jquery.
 
People are going to read the pages content and use its features, not its HTML tags
 
@rlemon isn't there like a styleEl.getRule('thingie') ?
 
also, just reading back -- semantic HTML is important, and if you don't think so, you should change industries.
 
12:31 PM
^
 
So thanks, but it raised some security exceptions I think in FF for remote sheets
@rlemon (et al.) - I was joking, make your code understandable obviously
 
@rlemon Tell me the last time you spent a few minutes reading Hotmail html tags and structure
...
 
I wish chat had comment downvotes
 
@AwalGarg beat me to it
 
users don't care
 
12:31 PM
adam, search engines do
 
@AdamBarak that is an exception. large sites are. they serve billions of requests, so a single byte saved is a lot
 
@AdamBarak: Hotmal HTML? last month.
 
Using divs for everything is just as bad as using table layouts
 
@Neil :P
 
if you don't care, you are making a mistake
period
 
12:32 PM
search engines are fine with plain divs
 
If you seriously care - you could use some middleware to minify your HTML, and serve it up gzipped etc.
 
aside from head, body, header...
That would make for unnecessary extra processing overhead
 
Unless you're in that realm and it's still too slow then don't worry at the byte level!
 
guess the w3 shouldn't bother with any tags anymore then
 
<div type="text" value="Bla" placeholder="insert text here"></div>
Yea...
 
12:33 PM
@Cerbrus :P
 
Why not? if it works ;-)
 
easier to read and edit, which saves time and money during maintenance. not to mention is makes search engines happier, and all tools more intelligent on your intent, therefore better refactoring/minification/etc
 
unordered html list tag is my favorite html tag. dunno why..
 
(though you could use input and drop the type) :P
 
Eh, no, it doesn't.
 
12:33 PM
Ohh and accessibility
 
Try to make an ordered list using divs
Nothing but divs
 
@rlemon For the first one you got it wrong. You do read and edit code in development, not in production
 
things like <nav> and <aside> and <article> are helping screen readers
 
let's not minify CSS and JS too then, so we can read and edit it
 
<div class="list"> <div class="list-item"> <div class="i-want-to-be-a-span"> </div> </div> </div>
 
12:34 PM
@AdamBarak actually you are wrong here.
 
@Busata lol
 
@Busata: Good. Now, what if your css doesn't load?
 
but if you insist on arguing with the entire room you are wasting everyones time
 
@AdamBarak keep two versions. serve the minified one.
 
@Cerbrus (I don't support his idea!)
 
12:35 PM
@AwalGarg That's what I'm saying..
 
Just making a point why divs don't work ;-)
 
don't look at me!
 
@AdamBarak with the advanced css reading tools css isn't a problem, but it's always very important to have the unminified js somewhere and to tell the user where he can find it (maybe just in an html comment)
 
you do yourself NO favours in changing semantic HTML to a crap show unless you see a serious cost incursion on your servers
 
I'm happily ul'ing & li'ing away!
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12:35 PM
and that is the only time
 
I realize that :)
 
@towc same thing for 8tml
 
You helped me prove a point, that's all :P
 
It's simple actually. If using a div creates problems don't use it (with Google screenreaders etc), otherwise go for it.
 
@AdamBarak: <table> or <div>?
 
12:37 PM
eh
 
@AdamBarak prob is that div always creates problems
 
c'mon you still use <table>
 
<div style="display:table"> </div> ofcourse, duh
 
we're in 2014
 
one of like 100 articles on the subject
 
12:37 PM
there's CSS for that
 
you're trolling
 
So, you're saying "Never use <table>"?
 
@Cerbrus Just when you're forced to do so for a reason or another
But today CSS can do the same thing, maybe better
 
Please be more specific. "forced"?
 
12:38 PM
@Cerbrus unless it's a table you're trying to display
 
@Cerbrus only use table for tabular data.
 
but don't use table layouts
 
@Cerbrus Either by your company, by an existing codebase or by a particular DOM structure
 
^^ @FlorianMargaine said
 
@Adam, "Never use tables for layout. Always use tables for tabular data"
 
12:39 PM
As a rule of thumb don't use divs when they create problems.
 
but why use css to turn every div into the element you want again (e.g, list, tables), quite sure you're losing the performance you think you gained by naming everything div's right there
 
@AdamBarak or you could use better stuff
 
Personally I've not even used them for tabular data
 
@rlemon repeating this kind of thing never hurts
 
As a rule of thumb, don't code if you don't know how to.
 
12:40 PM
@AdamBarak then you're doing something wrong
 
@AwalGarg wrong
 
@AdamBarak: As a rule of thumb: Use HTML elements the way they were designed.
 
@FlorianMargaine yes, I see discussions like this all the time
 
@AwalGarg I know. Here we're just speaking of an hype
like MongoDB... the cool kids ;-)
 
@AwalGarg Self-defeating. Nobody would be a programmer this way. :P
 
12:41 PM
and HTML structuring is not coding anyway
 
Heh
 
what you are talking about isn't structuring
 
It is
 
!!s/don't code/don't pretend you code the right way/
 
@towc As a rule of thumb, don't pretend you code the right way if you don't know how to. (source)
 
12:41 PM
okay semantics
 
Building HTML is programming
 
haha, it's a good indicator of what your code is gonna look like though :P
 
@towc I don't pretend, I do it my own style
 
and you pretend it's the best
 
If a need arises to use a particular tag or it causes problems I simply don't use it
 
12:42 PM
Semantic HTML isn't really that important.
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For those arguing with rlemon, remember that he is being controlled by Caprica Six! Don't mess with him.
 
no I didn't
 
It's secondary to proper CSS which itself isn't that big of a deal compared to JS.
 
semantic HTML is important, but shouldn't be your main focus. I 100% disagree with Benji on this
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum: What if your CSS doesn't load?
 
12:43 PM
I can make an exception for readability if that is impacted too much
 
Semantic HTML to the rescue, then.
 
@Cerbrus What if your HTML doesn't load?
 
@AwalGarg @Cerbrus You said that two times, what do you mean?
 
I'm sure people with screen readers appreciate some semantics?
 
@AwalGarg: Then you won't see anything, any way
 
12:43 PM
@Cerbrus lol, if your CSS doesn't load you're going to serve bad content anyway.
@Busata that's a common mistake to make.
 
@AdamBarak what did I say two times?
 
I spent a week with a blind person a few months ago.
 
I used to date miss conceptions, but apparently I completely didn't understand her. — Neil 49 secs ago
 
Screen readers don't really do anything close to what you'd expect them to do.
 
@AdamBarak: If your page loads, but css doesn't (Mobile devices get that more frequently), properly formatted HTML may still be readable
 
12:44 PM
@AwalGarg well it was @Cerbrus that did for the first time actually.
 
A pile of divs won't be
 
aha
 
In title, he wrote "miss conceptions." I had to write that comment. :D
 
@Cerbrus they really don't.
 
@Cerbrus Want to bet it does?
 
12:45 PM
@Neil y u no date girls?
 
Screen readers are pretty bad, but more importantly they're built for the actual web.
 
Screen readers are getting better, and are leveraging semantic HTML to help that
 
They work in tablular data and stuff that's actually common in older sites quite well and get really confused by semantic tags.
 
well, aside from all that
 
ignoring semantics just makes things worse in the long run
 
12:45 PM
use the tags you're supposed to, love your fellow programmer
 
@rlemon the screen reader blind people actually use because it actually works runs on IE8.
 
"get really confused by semantic tags"? Screen readers?
 
!!s/Screen readers are pretty/Browsers are pretty/
 
Stuff like Firefox's screen reading doesn't work nearly as well.
 
Nope.
 
12:45 PM
@AwalGarg Browsers are pretty bad, but more importantly they're built for the actual web. (source)
 
Use them if: normal divs create problems, they aid readability.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yes I have done and continue to do accessibility testing, I am well aware of the caveats of screen readers today
 
@Cerbrus clearly, you used a screen reader.
 
@AdamBarak ?
 
but are you going to back track and redo everything later? or do it right now
 
12:46 PM
@MarcGravell What's happened this time?
 
@rlemon I'm sure you do - but screen readers aren't a strong case for semantic HTML.
 
I have nothing running I swear...
 
no but they are part of the case
 
@AdamBarak you pinged him, now survive his dark gaze!
 
hi guys
 
12:46 PM
@AdamBarak you pinged him without context.
That's rude, sorta.
 
I am a front end noob
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I get what you are saying, it shouldn't be a HUGE concern, this argument is whether or not it should be a concern period
which it should. of course it should.
 
I'd like to integrate google maps to my rails app
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum what about not-blind readers? I hate looking at the html inspector to understand how something was done and see lots and lots of divs, and I need to look at the class or id to get a mere idea about what they should do
 
but I don't know how to do this step
 
12:47 PM
@AdamBarak no, you pinged me - just wondering what the context was
 
@SarpKaya you have two options!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum @AwalGarg damnit.. you're right
 
After that it's as simple as calling the gmap3() method on the div that you want to display the map "in:"
 
@SarpKaya the simple iframe embedding, or the javascript maps api
 
@MarcGravell Sorry, I wanted to put your name in the message but I actually pinged you
 
12:47 PM
@towc so what?
 
I do apologize
 
that's what the tutorial says
 
my goodness marc made a statement without the semicolon!!! wonderful! magic!
 
not a problem
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum so semantics really help for any dev aswell
 
12:48 PM
@AdamBarak second time within this day!
 
@towc who cares about developers from other companies who want to learn from your HTML :P?
HTML is dead simple.
 
if the question was "why ping on edits", that is because sometimes people make typos, @Adam
 
Not if it's a bundle of divs
 
@MarcGravell Thank you. You have the right to slap me if you ever see my around
 
It's a really simple markup language, there are complex tags for different scenarios but they still do teach HTML to 8 year olds.
 
12:48 PM
(that typo/edit was intentional, for illustration)
so we just run it through the full process, rather than try and track additions, removals, etc
 
he didn't ping... he summoned!
 
@Busata do you know how to "calling a javascript method on the div"?
 
CSS is kind of bad (so is HTML) but is still very simple.
 
it's not because it's a simple language that people create easy to read code with it :p
 
Necromancers everywhere
 
12:49 PM
@MarcGravell ok thanks. I just wanted to bring that up because many people got angry at me for that reason
 
so... make less typos?
 
@MarcGravell how can we do that?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum try and read through facebook's html
 
@MarcGravell Well, I'm not native american :P
 
it's dead awful!
 
12:49 PM
@MarcGravell if SE is actually working on chat and stuff there are a lot improvements we'd like :D
 
@AdamBarak: Neither am I
 
@AdamBarak neither am I
 
No excuse to make typo's
 
@AdamBarak neither am I
 
@towc ever read Google's HTML?
 
12:50 PM
even tho I sometimes want to look at that code for reasons
 
@Cerbrus ^^^^ don't make me beat you with that apostrophe
 
@SarpKaya google docs describe it well: developers.google.com/maps/documentation/javascript/tutorial
 
@MarcGravell You're an english man though :-)
 
!!s/tho/though/
 
@Cerbrus @MarcGravell You're an english man thoughugh :-) (source)
 
12:50 PM
@towc They use <font> tags. Do you realize how much money saving a single character means to them?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum nothing beats gmail though.
 
There's not that much difference from american english
 
...
 
@Busata this is a 3rd party gem github.com/edennis/jquery-gmap3-rails
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum really? I couldn't find one since 2013. guess they removed it...
 
12:51 PM
@Cerbrus Yes you too, you're dutch and is not much different either.
:P
 
@SarpKaya ah, afraid I won't be able to help with that
 
Feb 12 '13 at 0:14, by Benjamin Gruenbaum
@copy I was agreeing with you. I think semantic HTML is very important for maintaining it, but it takes very little maintaining generally
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum we work on all sorts of things all the time; what is it you are after in chat? if it is sensible, reasonable, etc - it stands a chance
 
but it's the javascript step
 
12:51 PM
looking at the flagging system
 
@MarcGravell he's not a troll, don't worry
 
I'm Turkish and it's a whole different language than English and Dutch other than the fact that we also have no gender distinction, and English education in Turkey is not one of the best if you don't take account of Universities
 
@SarpKaya that looks like jquery, did you include everything needed for that?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum from 2009... why do you expect it to stand correct now? Since then, google dropped support for a lot of things like IE6-8.
 
hmm
 
12:52 PM
@AdamBarak I'm romanian, how would that go?
 
@MarcGravell well, flagging (user flags, not mod flags) has been really broken for a while now (legitimate messages get get users banned, bad messages tend to get by just fine). Better room owner access control would be really nice.
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@Busata no I haven't I thought that was javascript
I'll try to google jquery and see if I can do
 
that reminds me! anyone knows why I can use google maps javascript api without specifying an API key?
 
I have node.js tho?
 
@SarpKaya jquery is a javascript library
 
12:53 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I would counter: the people doing the voting are really broken; examples, though?
 
You can use Google Maps API without key for up to 2500 requests
 
@towc Romanian is a latin language that has many Slavic loanwords, but it's similar to Italian which in turn is similar to English. No excuse either
 
ah
 
I couldn't resist :P
 
12:53 PM
guess I'll have to slow down with F5'ing my own app then & add one :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum as for room access control; what and why?
 
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Q: Flags in chat are defective by design

Benjamin GruenbaumYes, I know the topic has been discussed before. I know that Meta already has threads that complain about how flagging doesn't work. I wanted to give a practical example. Today, a user came in to the JavaScript chat and asked the following question: Hey guys, as soon as I embed javascript,...

 
would need a use-case...
 
@MarcGravell well, every now and then we get abusive users - it happens about every few months. We've 'hacked around it' (with approval from SE) by having a bot that adds everyone to an 'allowed' list and turning the room to gallery but having the ability to deal with problematic users would be nice.
 
It's not like I make a typo every 5 second, but when it happens I need to edit or leave it like that
 
12:55 PM
@AdamBarak try to explain english to a romanian, it's worse than explaining english to an indian probably
they'd only understand the characters
 
Most of the discussion is constructive and well mannered but a single user can disrupt the room quite heavily.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum just be honest and tell him you want to be the room dictator !
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I just checked again, you won't find a single <font> tag on Google anymore.
 
@jAndy well, what I'd really want is THE GAME.
 
romanian is slightly modified (more in grammar than in lexic) latin, which doesn't help at all with english
 
12:55 PM
darn you
 
@towc Romanian ce mai faci is mutually intelligible to italian's come stai (come fai)
 
@AdamBarak nope
 
@MarcGravell and what happened with the translate thing?
 
well English education is higher in Romania than Turkey
 
12:56 PM
@AdamBarak ce mai faci -> how are you
how does that go?
 
translate hi doesn't seem to work.
 
Turkish people are more probably able to speak German
@towc in italian come va
 
@MarcGravell @ThiefMaster is a room regular and he probably has a more "system wide" perspective on the issues we have here - it might be beneficial to talk to him about it.
 
how do I know that? because of its mutual intelligibility
 
german is much more similar to english than latin or italian
 
12:57 PM
thats not really German, more like.. an.. linguistic accident
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah, I'd need to sit down and think about the cases there, look at the data (much like Pops has done) - it isn't a simple thing
 
@AdamBarak you have a weird mutual intelligence
@jAndy the latest accident was with germans :P
 
Yes but they don't speak English. Did you ever met a Turk? I don't think.
 
I've met plenty
 
@AdamBarak yes
 
12:58 PM
@towc Is that your way to find arguments?
 
They're an infestation here
 
And he was very fluent in English right?
...
 
@MarcGravell yeah - that figures. Was worth a shot. Fixing the huge XSS that lets you steal fkey values from arbitrary users in a chat message might be worth your time - though I realize the chat isn't that big.
 
Also, the sidebar of chat is not good... ask @SecondRikudo
 
They weren't even fluent in Dutch
 
12:59 PM
@AdamBarak just trying to make an argument about you not having an valid argument
 
wish there was another Turk in here
 
@AwalGarg Hmm?
 
Lol, kidding, got you there - didn't I :D?
 
@towc At least make a valid argument
you're not trying hard enough ;-)
@Cerbrus Echt? Dat is je eigen idea ;-)
 

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