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5:00 PM
!!/info porn
 
@Zirak Command porn, created by twiz on Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:53:00 GMT, invoked 2 times
 
hahaha
 
@VisioN hahaha
 
lol.. firefox is so much slower than chrome, its so devastating for the mozilla guys
 
@VisioN I'd need 5 upvotes on the question ;)
I don't have the 16dec hat :(
 
5:03 PM
@Zirak There was an intense conversation about google's porn blocker going on in here... And that was the conclusion we came to... haha
 
@FlorianMargaine Haha, I was surprised to see an answer so similar to what you were already using
Then I saw who answered :p
 
jsfiddle.net/darkyen/3fZRB/7/show .. if u know more about zirak add :P
 
Man... 45 rep... that's more than I've gotten in a single day for a while now.
 
> Jack of all trades and a master of all
???
 
5:04 PM
@FlorianMargaine Man you're rep-greedy
Or hat
 
@copy no, hat-greedy
I'm rep capped already
 
@FlorianMargaine lol
 
aw crap chrome sucks :-(
my cut out effect looks so ugly on that browser :-/
 
damn, not getting that hat
ah, got it
3 hats left
 
@FlorianMargaine And so?
 
5:09 PM
Anyone have any thought here: stackoverflow.com/q/13957325/337315
 
@Abhishek Chances are that he's from Israel
 
jsfiddle.net/darkyen/3fZRB/8/show @AmaanCheval screenshot on chrome pls
 
oh
1 vote left for the hat there
 
didn't think it'd get so many upvotes.
 
5:17 PM
@AmaanCheval clear cache and this one then jsfiddle.net/darkyen/3fZRB/9/show
i wonder why is chrome being a pain in the ass :-|
 
wtf , why is your chrome not rendering those borders on the edges triangles :-|
 
wtf...
!!> "s/\!\!s\/code\/pic\//I like turtles/".match( /s(.)((?:(?:\\\1)|[^\1])*?)\1((?:(?:\\\1)|[^\1])*?)\1(g?i?)/ )
 
@Zirak ["s/!!s/code/","/","!!s","code",""]
 
WHY THE LIES
 
5:19 PM
^ My chrome does
 
...because of escaping
 
?
 
@rlemon Good news! You'll have to double-escape stuff!
 
@Zirak ????
 
53 mins ago, by Zirak
@rlemon My fault, I fail to accept escaping...
Escaping in the substitution thingy.
\w for instance gets turned to w, so to get \w you need \\w.
Which shouldn't have surprised me, since I saw that happening already, hence the escape character in the arguments is ~...
 
5:22 PM
ah
now i am going to pass out and sleep in my comfy bed
btw my medical reports came :-/
 
@Abhishek ":-/"?
 
txting on fb
 
Testing/feedback welcome on GMScreen updates: Repository - Demo
 
Wow, that sounds cool
 
5:25 PM
alright... 1 hat left
 
@FlorianMargaine Have you worked at all today?
 
@RyanKinal Could you list the screens across the top?
 
$( jAndy ).text( 'later folks' ).delay( 2000 ).hide( 0 );
 
@AmaanCheval its holidays :P
 
5:25 PM
I did a lot of work today, can't understand how I did it
 
@SomeKittens Instead of in a dropdown?
 
@RyanKinal Yeah, like tabbed browsing
 
@Abhishek Already?
 
Might be cool.
 
@VisioN dude, I meant naive, not native :p
 
5:28 PM
@AmaanCheval for me yes !
 
yay
got gangnam style
 
@Abhishek Technically, for me as well, but mine are self-proclaimed :p
 
Congratumalations!
 
yeah... I'm not done yet
 
5:34 PM
okay now completely good night new meds will make me sleep like a pig
 
@rlemon Good news! I was wrong! You just need to escape chat characters!
 
That's interesting (Didn't know about that)
 
goes to frolick naked in the meadows
 
Hahaha
 
5:41 PM
The problem with the sandbox is that I am far to lazy to type "sandbox" to find it
too
 
It's room #1, just remove the 7 in this room's url
 
well well well
 
So it has come to this...
 
it'd been a long time since I hadn't gotten almost 250 rep on a day
 
and even longer since I ....
 
5:42 PM
@Zirak :D
XKCD is awesome
 
Mr. Tiddles has never managed to stride close
 
hmmm... i need tea.. anyone got any good suggestions?
 
@Zirak Which comics do you read regularly? SMBC, C&H, XKCD, and ExoComics?
Any others?
 
@AmaanCheval Buttersafe
 
@rlemon did you ever?
 
5:44 PM
And whenever he releases one, TPBF (The Perry Bible Fellowship)
 
@Zirak Thanks
 
Enjoy
 
what the hell lol!
 
TBPF is truly awesome: pbfcomics.com/253
Really, all of his comics are awesome.
 
5:46 PM
is this a local one? never heard of it
 
omg thats hilarious
 
You can't just hit aide workers.
 
Hahahahaha
 
pbfcomics.com/31 (I'm just hitting random, really)
 
5:48 PM
 
!! s/athe/rap/
 
@Zirak I enjoy therapistpig.com (source)
 
@rlemon That wasn't funny.
 
to you.
 
That's not what I meant.
 
5:49 PM
pbfcomics.com/26 ok I'll stop now
 
I guess butterflies are attracted to pixies.
 
 
ok the last one was a bit close to the bone
 
How about this? pbfcomics.com/153
 
5:52 PM
that ones good, hes proper talented aint he
 
A shame and a blessing he doesn't update more.
 
why a blessing.... i wished he did more viewing some of these lol
 
Well, look at everything. Those are good because he doesn't force ideas.
 
@KirstyHarris because most comedic folks lose quality when they produce too much.
 
I think it was Nabokov who said that he didn't write anything he shamed of because he didn't force writing.
 
5:54 PM
hmmm yeah youve got a point there @user973810
 
If they only take the really best ideas they have, then it's good. But they can only have so much - xkcd has deteriorated a lot because of that. He promised a tri-weekly publish, and he's running out of really good ideas, so he published average ones.
 
i dont follow most comics, the ones in the local bus paper are quite short and snappy... i like those
 
In a way, following a schedule is good, because it forces you to produce and improve. The issue is when you plateau
In related news, "plateau" is a stupid word.
 
where do you go after though! its like you lose your worth.... and you need to find something else to do
 
RFC (is this a good enough explanation?): github.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot/blob/master/source/plugins/…
!!/refresh
@AmaanCheval Congrats, you're now registered as an owner.
 
5:58 PM
claps
 
/me pops champagne cork
 
AH MY EYE
 
wth
but do not go to this page!!! only show text value — Adam 3 mins ago
 
@Neal how did you get 5 helpful flags?
 
6:03 PM
@FlorianMargaine eh?
what do u mean?
 
where did you find the questions/answers to flag?
oh well
cya people
 
Laaaaaame
 
you need 10k rep to reach this page :(
 
We don't need no stinking page.
the page needs us!
 
6:07 PM
@Zirak Yay!
 
Basically, he looked at things flagged "Not an answer" and flagged them again.
 
omg!!!... guy from Lost Prophets charged with child fiddling!
 
@KirstyHarris I can tell you tried really hard not to say "lol" there :p
 
i did!!! hahahahahaha....
 
@KirstyHarris Impressive. It's not easy to turn children into violins.
 
6:09 PM
.... ok... child abuse.... worded wrong... thats sick that.... URGH
hmmm i just found chocolate brazil nuts.... nom
 
@KirstyHarris flagged for moderator attention.
o.O
*flogged
 
> We're impressed by your “php” tag answers on Stack Overflow. We appreciate your contributions, and would like to invite you to create a professional profile on Stack Overflow Careers 2.0.
Woo!
 
StackOverflow botted you, man,.
Don't accept any money orders
 
go @SomeKittens!!!!
@canon... botted me?
 
6:19 PM
No, @SomeKittens
 
oh lol
 
!!s/fiddling/diddling/
 
@rlemon Invalid command /s/fiddling/diddling/
@rlemon omg!!!... guy from Lost Prophets charged with child diddling! (source)
 
!!/urban diddling
 
@rlemon diddling In short, to fool around with oneself; to masturbate; to commit Onanism.
 
6:27 PM
omg hahaha
 
good eve all
 
!!/urban LinkedIn
 
@SomeKittens [LinkedIn](http://linkedin.urbanup.com/4755496) 1. A place where unemployed 40 somethings go because their kids told them about social media and their neighbor (Never even visited LinkedIn twice) recommended they check it out during small-talk. Then the unemployed 40 year old spends one afternoon making 500 connections and harassing people who haven't been back to LinkedIn in a year; with their resume.

2. A profile graveyard for entry level corporate kids who do not want to share their Facebook profile with their superiors.
 
gist.github.com/4334706 = list of words I have added to MS word dictionary because I was tired of seeing red squiggles
 
Your code editor is Microsoft Word ?
Respect
 
6:35 PM
lol
 
for book writing, though my next book project will be written in markdown
 
I really want a Rich Text Editor that outputs markdown. That would be sweet.
 
Go for latex
 
@FlorianMargaine noooooooooo way
 
Ryan: there are some...
 
6:39 PM
When I was younger I tried coding in MS word (90's). What a horrible failure that was.
 
Hmmm. I suppose there are.
 
Ivo did one iirc
 
At that age I didn't quite understand why rich text was so much different than plain text.
 
(bonsaiden on github )
 
Yeah, I just found that
 
6:43 PM
@rlemon How old were you?
 
But the problem is that I'm looking for something visual (WYSIWYG-ish), because markdown scares away normal people.
 
Yep.
 
full html imo
gogo
 
lawl right
 
6:46 PM
<iframe> and <script> and <embed> galore!
 
@AmaanCheval 8, maybe 9ish
 
^ rm'd by author
 
I see
 
webkit audio is fun to mess with
I see a future weekend project
 
6:51 PM
<a href="http://wrathgames.com/blog" target="_parent">Music from WrathGames Studio</a>
 
ah ty
target is depricated fyi
 
then how do you target with a link?
 
afaik target is all you got
 
it was then they retracted
that must of been pretty recent
@rlemon yeah it was dumb
the fallback was to use JS
 
6:52 PM
really? that seems kinda counter intuitive
 
yeah, I wonder when they changed it
glad to see they did though
 
remove a HTML feature to implement it in JS which is 'disable'-able
 
yeah exactly, opening new windows was stupid
 
ohh well, it's there :P
window.open() is my most hated function
 
same, man im glad I looked into that just now
lol not many people would gain happiness from seeing an attribute no longer depricated
/me is a nerd
 
6:54 PM
it is also the function I understand the least. Probably because in 1999/2000 it was so horribly supported cross browser I never once considered using it.
@Loktar I never knew it was deprecated. So i'm happy it was, then was returned to the spec.
 
1999/2000 is about the only time I've wanted to use window.open()
It's a horrible, horrible function
 
I'm sad they are putting more effort into innerHTML instead of making the DOM API a little easier to understand / use for beginners.
 
eff innerHTML
 
exactly.
innerHTML = string;
is not unlike
eval(string);
 
yeah I agree
 
6:57 PM
But it's useful sometimes.
 
@RyanKinal only because regex is also pretty horrible at parsing HTML strings.
so you're left with the lesser of two evils, which is to smash some strings into the parser and let it do it's magic, hopefully giving you the correct structure. Then to traverse that node tree.
 
btw @rlemon (et al), you might like this: gist.github.com/4225242
 
@rlemon Right, but how would you rather deal with stored HTML content?
 
@RyanKinal There really is no other way, which is why I said you're left with the lesser of two.
regex vs innerHTML \ innerHTML all the way
regex or innerHTML vs magicAlternative \ magicAlternative all the way
fuck, Harry Potter... where are you when we need you!
 
I'm just unsure how the magic alternative would be different from the following:
document.parseHTML = function(html)
{
    var fragment = document.createDocumentFragment();
    fragment.innerHTML = html;

    return fragment;
}
 
7:02 PM
@RyanKinal neither can I, again why I called it the "magic" solution
one that doesn't use regex or innerHTML
if I could fathom it I would invent it and be rich.
but I cannot, so i'll sit here and bitch about it for no other reason than it makes me feel better.
 
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Q: Do I have to learn html and javascript to create web applications?

vainoloI am an experienced Java programmer, and I want to create a complex web application requiring dynamic pages, drawings, etc (take SO as an example). Do I have to learn javascript/html in order to create such an application? It is not that I don't want to learn another language (I've done this bef...

 
Lies! Perl's regexps can parse html. Because you can embed arbitrary perl code inside regexps. :D
 
I'm not registered on programmers
 
Yeah, i just took a look at that as well and noticed that
 
I told the OP to come in here and discuss this.
 
7:06 PM
great question
 
how different are javascript and java really
 
heh
The difference between java and javascript is.
 
1) there are legit js frameworks outside YUI?
2) abstractions should be burned and thrown in the garbage while learning the languages they abstract
3) java is to javascript as car is to carpenter
 
I disagree with 2...
 
and you are wrong to do so.
 
7:08 PM
If we did everything at the lowest level possible we'd be mucking about in machine language / binary all day long
sometime abstractions are helpful
 
"I want to learn X language"
"Cool! Here is an abstraction library that hides all of the important things the languages APIs offer you"
o_O
 
No
 
@canon that is a horrible fucking example and if you knew anything about programming you wouldn't make it
 
I didn't say that.
 
I'm so sick of that example. Those are two completely different levels of abstraction.
it's comparing apples to dog sleds.
 
7:09 PM
There's a difference between abstracting at the language level and library level.
 
answer here, for instance: stackoverflow.com/questions/12787336/…
if someone wants to know how to do something "in javascript" I will absolutely hop all over anyone who outright suggests a LIBRARY solution
 
i think programming languages are iterative, or it seems that way from what little knowledge i have
 
IMO, abstraction must be clear and useful.
 
however, in the context of already using a library, why bitch that they should "roll their own" implementation
 
> 2) abstractions should be burned and thrown in the garbage while learning the languages they abstract
^ still stands true.
 
7:11 PM
*library not javascript
jesus, type
*typo
"if someone wants to know how to do something "in javascript" I will absolutely hop all over anyone who outright suggests a LIBRARY solution"
that said, if you want a suite of particular features
 
ahh, that makes more sense haha
 
particularly, ui-related perhaps
nothing wrong with a library
 
there is.... if you don't already know the language the library is built on.
 
sure there is
it's called wasted money
replicating existing, vetted functionality
provided that the library suits your purposes
 
libraries are built for Rapid Application Development... that is it! Code standards do come into play here but the #1 reason for their inception was RAD. Abstractions allow experienced programmers to do a lot more work in a lot less time. If you are learning the language they will only hurt you. Don't use ANY abstraction libraries until you are comfortable with the language(s) they/it abstracts.
 
7:15 PM
That's not what you've been arguing.
You've been arguing that they should burn in hell and never be used.
 
That is EXACTLY what i've been arguing
4 mins ago, by rlemon
> 2) abstractions should be burned and thrown in the garbage while learning the languages they abstract
 
No, what you just posted was reasonable.
 
read the last six fucking words man
jesus...
 
Why?
Seeing an abstraction can spark a curiosity about its implementation
hmm, that method is really useful
 
wow.... not sure if trolling... or just fucking stupid.
 
7:16 PM
how does it work under the hood
etc
 
ignored
I just spent 15 minutes explaining a single topic that was summed up in the first thing I said.
I need a smoke.
 
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A: Do I have to learn html and javascript to create web applications?

Simon SarrisYou don't have to learn JavaScript and HTML to create web applications. But you will. If you really want to write webapps in mostly Java, have a look at the Google Web Toolkit, which does vast amounts of Java to JS, and can satisfy a good chunk of the code needed for a webapp. And if you reall...

ta daaaaa
hopefully I have inspired him, and he's already bought Crockford's book
 
Stupid Blogger, Why can't they just make their custom template markup make sense.
I feel like i'm hacking a myspace template
 
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A: Do I have to learn html and javascript to create web applications?

ZirakLet's consider some possible solutions to the scenario "I need to do some web stuff": Hire someone else to do it Use an elaborate framework that magically transforms non front end stuff into front end stuff (html, css, js) Do it yourself We will ignore #1 because we're awesome like that. We'r...

@SimonSarris hah, +d for the Matrix image
 
@SimonSarris heh
 
7:29 PM
While writing the answer I was reminded of the phrase "No matter where you go, there you are"
 
i can only show you the door. you're the one that has to walk through it
would also fit very well
 
Ok so totally the next blog post I will be working on will be the "Abstraction Libraries: When, where and why".
 
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Q: My Slider is too slow, please help me make it fast

AkashMy slider is too slow how can i make it fast, please my site and suggest me changes.. Thankx in advance. http://www.fnsecure.in/ This is my Web Site link..

 
you kidding me...
'My slider is too slow?'.. seriously
 
7:38 PM
What is the library named that mimic the "swipe right" functionality in the Facebook app?
To get the gray/black area
 
too many Andies...
 
^
 
:p
Nobody knows its name?
 
tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/D4SR76VpJ/http://www.fnsecure.in Look at the breakdown on what you are waiting for. you include 171 external resources on a single page, most of which are coming from a few domains. Notice how each domain can only send a single file at once? The rest queue up behind it. Also, looking at your source code makes me sad. Your HTML is horribly malformed and needs a lot of attention. This could be causing the browser to hiccup while attempting to figure out how to render everything. — rlemon 12 secs ago
ugh, don't even view source on his page.
<head><a><img /></a><script> ..... 6000 lines later
 
two of that guy's images took 18s+ to download
 
7:45 PM
androiduiux.com/2012/06/15/… what is the javascript library named?
It creates the same effect
 
I don't think that is a library.
you can likely find a script to do it
I think Hakim has one
 
yeah
that is what I ment
 
kinda similar
otherwise find your own, or make your own.
rule of thumb: if you spend more than a day looking for a plugin, you can likely write it yourself in the same amount of time.
 
jesus christ
that guy's page
 
It is for mobiles though
 
7:48 PM
is 6k+ lines... and tons of external resources
"It's slow." No shit.
 
so?
 
Not you, andy.
btw
 
So you're looking for a Java solution?
is this a native app or a webpage
 
webpage
mobile web app
I know there is a script that mimics it, but I forgot the page
It slides the "normal" page to the right while showing the menu on the left
 
Yes, that looks like something which I mean. Thank you :)
 
What a weird story! I can't get why people are still looking for complexity in the easiest things.
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Q: Is there an alternative way to manually find the absolute value of a number?

typedef typenameI was wondering if there was a different way of getting the absolute value of a number besides doing: return x < 0 ? -x : x; Is there a different (preferably shorter) way? If there is, please post an answer showing how to so with code. (By manually I mean without using a built in function l...

 

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