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7:02 PM
And my boss just texted me asking if I could go to Toledo tomorrow. Wtf. Hopefully this ends up like last time where they say don't worry about it.
 
lol
Don't worry about it;
 
You lot may have already seen it but i think the live feed from the ISS is ace m.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream
 
Yeah, that's really cool.
 
nice
 
7:08 PM
Is there a hyperlink UI element, or is it just a TextView with an onClickListener?
 
Theres meant to be a sunset/rise every 45 mins but ive not caught one yet, and im not watching it for that long haha
 
I have not seen that. Thanks!
 
I slept in every day this week, I did not see any great lakes sunrises. Kind of disappointed.
 
@McAdam331 What hackathon?
 
We're having a hackathon at my university this fall. It's our first one, nothing popular yet.
 
7:14 PM
@McAdam331 textView.setMovementMethod(LinkMovementMethod.getInstance());
then the textview will render html links
 
@McAdam331 What university
 
Oakland University, in Michigan.
 
I keep thinking Adam is in Kansas
 
@petey I'm not using HTML links, though I could. I found this answer which works too using XML: stackoverflow.com/questions/9290651/…
 
I guess "we are not in Kansas anymore"
 
7:19 PM
It's not your kansas it's arkansas.
 
@McAdam331 I'm interning in Detroit, that's why I asked
 
@McAdam331 nice one!
 
Oh, that's cool Anubian. Where at?
 
Startup at Techstars
We aren't building a public facing product quite yet
 
7:25 PM
Nice
Are you from the area?
 
I didn't know Techstars was in Detroit
 
New program, Techstars Mobility
Bill Ford actually just personally came in :O
I'm from Seattle
 
Detroit's a long way from Seattle haha
 
Mac is right, I just looked it up on a map
trolling again...I must be bored
 
lol yeah it is, I'm just here for the summer
 
7:45 PM
Wait.
You looked up the distance from Seattle to Detroit?
:|
 
That's a pretty easy one
Far
 
Lol, Mac! No, I was bored and staring at my screen and that seemed like the comment to leave
I did some work earlier, a bunch of testing, and now my brain is starting to shutdown
Plus I'm trying not to start work on anything else until I get this update out but waiting for testing to be done for that
I could try to fix this button that's looked wonky for awhile. That should be easy
I have a login_screen1.xml. I wonder where login_screen.xml is...
 
God dangit I have to go to Toledo.
Office at 5:30 in the morning? What in the actual fuck.
 
I went to the office at 11 today
waking up was hard
love it that nobody cares as long as you get your stuff done
so chill
 
7:56 PM
Normally in around 10, today came a little early because I'm going somewhere this weekend
 
I'm usually in around 9-9:30
 
what's the proper way to implement material flat buttons pre-Lollipop?
with slightly curved corners
like in dialogs
and what's that colour used for text?
 
I hate how if you have a syntax error in xml there no real error message
gradle build failed
cause:
 
yea, can be frustrating
@Ahmad welcome to working at a startup :P
 
I just wrote/modified some 300 lines of xml :P
 
8:01 PM
:D
 
Where do you work?
 
well, no startup anymore actually
since it's Microsoft now
it's called Wunderlist
 
oh neat
 
but yeah, MS acquired us
 
Didn't they have a whole android redesign?
 
8:03 PM
yeah just a few months ago
 
Should I use it
 
try it out, I use it daily
 
I'm going to guess he would recommend you use the product from the place he works
 
have used it for the past two years
;D
 
what do you use under the hood for the Android app?
 
8:05 PM
libraries?
 
yea
 
not that many actually
picasso, eventbus, priority jobqueue
then fabric for analytics and crash reports
oh and leak canary
but nothing fancy
we're experimenting with dagger, but it's hard getting it integrated into such a large project
 
yea
 
dagger makes sense for new projects
but yeah, it's a big code base
and we have a lot of build flavours
 
we aren't sold on dagger
at least Dagger2
 
8:10 PM
What is dagger?
 
oh yeah, dagger2 is kinda meh
 
dependency injection lib
 
even Jesse Wilson said that
 
it's really easy to leak context if you aren't careful
and there's lots of boilerplate
 
What is dependency injection?
 
8:12 PM
kind of a big topic to explain
but the gist is
you should always pass dependencies into an object
 
1252
Q: What is dependency injection?

AR.There have been several questions already posted with specific questions about dependency injection, such as when to use it and what frameworks are there for it. However, What is dependency injection and when/why should or shouldn't it be used?

 
since that makes things more testable
 
the testing on our app is really crazy
 
@matty357 I think the ISS is going through a sunrise
hurry
 
Oh it's p simple, I've done this before
Where's the ISS link?
 
8:13 PM
besides UI tests and the usual we have our own device rack with a lot of devices
 
It's basically passing in fields to an object instead of having it create them itself
 
^^
 
every nightly is tested like crazy
 
Human tested?
 
8:14 PM
no everything is automated
 
@Ahmad any idea how your test coverage is?
 
but I think QA also does test as well
just to make sure
how, as in, trevor?
 
there's statistics reports you can generate
which check all the possible code paths or w/e I think
 
It seems to be going dark again. Maybe someone just had to go potty and turned the bathroom light on. Lol
 
8:16 PM
we are just starting to get proper testing setup, so our coverage is low :/
 
^^^^^ Windows 1 to 10 in a single gif.
 
aah, hmm you can only get those reports from unit testing and the like right?
 
Nice Adam!
 
QA is using a ruby framework to write most of the UI tests, so I can't get them there
we don't have that many unit tests
but we're getting there
 
8:17 PM
ahhh did I miss the sunrise?
 
had to cross post the windows gif to our slack channel
 
I did too lol
 
Still no Windows 10 :/
 
You can force an upgrade by changing the update file
 
Yeah I know, I saw that. Should I?
 
8:23 PM
My boss did it earlier but I wasn't that interested today
Sure
 
Ugh, then I have to find the post where it says how :/
 
I think I'm going to check it out on my personal laptop at home before I change anything on my work laptop
 
Good idea
 
That'd be smart
 
He said it was easy to find
 
8:24 PM
You have a link? I'm lazy xD
 
No, I asked him how and he said something like, "Just search update windows 10 change update file" or some such shit but I haven't yet
 
I saw something on RedmondPie this morning
 
I thought maybe he would send me the link...nope
 
> QA Engineer walks into a bar. Orders a beer. Orders 0 beers. Orders 999999999 beers. Orders a lizard. Orders -1 beers. Orders a sfdeljknesv.
 
8:27 PM
If I got it right, Win10 will roll out along with required drivers, when Microsoft is sure there's a proper driver for your hardware (along other things)
 
@AnubianNoob :) saw that as well, great article by jeff
 
but I've been on Preview since September or so with Win8 drivers, works alright
 
**Guide to Get Windows 10**
1.) Make sure your computer is ready and has space, make any and all updates
2.) Make sure you reserved a copy of Windows 10
3.) Navigate to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download folder and delete everything in this folder.
4.) Open the command prompt in administrator mode
5.) Type *wuauclt.exe /updatenow* and press enter
6.) After a few minutes check the updates in Windows Update and wait for it to download
 
Can I dual boot it?
 
8:46 PM
oh nice
I joined the MS github org
 
nice
What's your github?
 
this one
my name is kinda unique-ish so I avoid linking my name whenever possible, because chat is indexed by google
 
yo you forked Cosmos?
 
I even contributed
 
oh damn
 
8:51 PM
oh wait
you worked on cosmos right?
 
Did Krish push his repo after Ro took it down?
I was on the original team, and now I'm interning with them lol
 
interning?
wait
it's an actual company now?
woa
 
yeah
 
no way, haha awesome
 
It turned into an actual startup
no wait the original backend is still up
 
8:53 PM
I talked with stefan about it a bit on fb
 
and he was really excited for it
oh you changed repos?
 
idk but you forked Krish's
Which is slighly behind
 
but my contributions still show up on the new one
it was just some cleaning up tho lol
 
lol
It wasn't gitignored?
node_modules?
> Sorry, we could not display the entire diff because too many files (2,152) changed.
that's hilarious
 
8:56 PM
Lol
I think it was in the gitignore but the gitignore was added after actually pushing the repo
so y'all must have forgotten to do a git rm -rf --cached .
 
XD
yea so at mhacks I was supposedly doing backend lol
But I knew nothing
so ro rewrote everything I did when I was sleeping
 
We're talking about mhacks?
I applied to mhacks. I can't wait.
 
And then I started android dev on the flight back
And now I'm doing android dev for cosmos /shrug
 
oh nice
oh yeah I will eventually apply for mhacks as well
I'm just too lazy to fill it out
I hate filling out hackathon applications
actually I'll do it now, before it's too late
 
^
I mean we actually just got a table so I'm not too worried
 
9:00 PM
table?
 
oh shit also supposedly I got into htp
maybe I should go
Sponsor table
 
you guys are sponsoring mhacks?
 
Problem is that flight is gonna come out of my pocket
They sorta just gave us a table
Reimbursements for htp are up to 200 and after the event
hmm I think it's worth it
 
htp?
hack the planet?
 
yeah
 
9:02 PM
that's already in 2 weeks lol
should book your flight now
 
yeah
It's gonna be like 500$ from me :P
Is there a stack exchange chat android app?
 
nope unfortunately not
 
The website is ok
 
it's okay, but an app would be awesome
 
No it's not but I'm alive so it's ok
I'm down to build an app lol
 
9:06 PM
a lot of people tried
never to be heard from again
 
posted on July 30, 2015 by Reto Meier

Posted by Jamal Eason, Product Manager, Android Previewed earlier this summer at Google I/O, Android Studio 1.3 is now available on the stable release channel. We appreciated the early feedback from those developers on our canary and beta channels to help ship a great product. Android Studio 1.3 is our biggest feature release for the year so far, which includes a new memory profiler,

 
I'm off
night!
 
gn
What time is it?
 
11 pm
 
9:12 PM
In germany?
 
yah
 
*ja
 
XD
hmm trying to figure out flights
With fees + uber and stuff this is gonna suck
 
are you using KAYAK? :P
 
I'm just using google flights, lemme look at kayak
 
9:20 PM
(shameless plug)
 
back just to say: use kayak
all my flights in the past year have been found through kayak.
 
glad to hear :P
 
Google flights is pretty good too no?
 
now; laters!
 
oh nice ui
kayak for sure
and they advise waiting because prices may drop in the next 7 days
not sure how I feel about that but might as well
 
9:22 PM
as a disclosure I work at KAYAK
so I will recommend us over Google flights lol
 
XD
yeah this is gonna cost me $514 + fees
Reimursements are gonna come like a month or 3 after the event
I'm either gonna have to ask parents or wait for my next paycheck which should arrive in the next week
this is difficult
plus I have to take friday off
or convince Ro to come with me XD
I feel like I'm talking to myself
which I do do a lot
 
9:38 PM
posted on July 30, 2015 by Tor Norbye

Android Studio 1.3 is now available in the stable channel! For full details, see http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2015/07/get-your-hands-on-android-studio-13.html To download, either use the built-in update mechanism, or download an installer from http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html.

 
@Ahmad didn't make it
 
omg
of all the things that I've had the hardest time adapting to in switching from C++ to Java, it's that you have to assign the return value of the string functions to a new string instead of having it operate in-place
 
use StringBuilder
 
Well, wouldn't that be a void method then? If it's not returning anything, but modifying a parameter you passed in?
 
9:51 PM
String foo = "my string"; foo.replace("string", "foo");
 
I mean, it'll be replaced with StringBuilder when compiled anyway
 
Maybe HTN I'll make!
 
I essentially had code like that in my app and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working
 
Android is so dumb sometimes, impossible to do stuff that should be very simple
-____-
 
holy shit I think I just developed a fear of escalators
 
9:57 PM
Hm?
 
Did you read/see the video about the woman in China?
 
yea McAdam
poor lady
 
Yeah, that's crazy.
 
scared to watch the video
 
it's graphic but no blood or dismembered parts or anything
she just gets sucked in
 
10:07 PM
Yeah. It's just that you know what happens that makes it hard to watch.
 
10:32 PM
 
lol
 
Without the dinos, I'm not sure it would be as funny
 
hmm
 
The wording seems awkward but I still LOLed
 
is my basic understanding of java completely wrong
lol
 
10:34 PM
yes
 
i have a method which takes in an arraylist of object
i iterate through that arraylist and change the object
after the method does its job, it seems as if the changes arent stored
 
Are you changing value types and not reference types? I've had this problem in C#, not sure if it works the same way.
 
arraylist of custom object
custom object contains its own arraylist
i iterate through and add some values to that arraylist inside the custom object
after the method is done the custom objects array lists have 0 values, all of them
 
you aren't allocating a new custom object in the method right?
 
I've had this problem in C#, and I never fully understood it but it had to do with some types being considered 'value types' instead of 'reference types' so they wouldn't be changed inside a method like that. The route I used instead was instead of using a void method and manipulating them, I had the method return a new object.
 
10:40 PM
java is all pass-by-value but the address of a pointer is considered a value
 
So in your case, you could take in an ArrayList of objects, and return a new arraylist of objects. (the one that you iterate through and create)
 
2305
Q: Is Java "pass-by-reference" or "pass-by-value"?

user4315I always thought Java was pass-by-reference; however I've seen a couple of blog posts (for example, this blog) that claim it's not. I don't think I understand the distinction they're making. What is the explanation?

 
arent the first and second example contradictory
no im wrong, i see
nvm
but hmm, im not recreating the arraylist or anythin
im just adding new contents to it
this is bizarre
so now
i can iterate through these items and find trhe values
but via the debugger it says the arrays are empty
this is goofy as fuck
 
Is it a void method? Instead of manipulating the arraylist passed in, why not create and return a new arraylist?
 
yea im gonna try that i think
but i dont get why it literally shows the arrays as being full
like i iterate through and find 57 values
 

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