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9:01 AM
@Oldskool Ok is there a better way to do it then? I am trying to call 2 mysql queries in the same php code can we do that? please check this question stackoverflow.com/questions/36907803/…
 
@JoeWatkins What I meant to say, less confrontationally, is: internals is a seeething mass of kindergarten politics and reactionaries. People make mistakes. If someone makes a mistake and you point it out privately, they can revert it and publicly apologise before the shitstorm starts. If they say "I did it because xyz" and you think "oh that totally makes sense" then you can suggest that they mail internals with an explanation and similarly avoid the shitstorm.
I realise that the tit-for-tat reflex is hard to ignore, but by ignoring it and behaving like adults it promotes a healthier attitude everywhere and maybe one day things will get generally better because of it.
I apologise and will now stop being reasonable
 
reasonable is not doing that sort of thing in the first place ...
 
@JoeWatkins Well, at least I personally would appreciate it, if I were contacted in private first.
 
if there are no consequences, there is nothing stopping it happening again ...
it's not a tit for tat reflex to want the rules, unwritten or not to be respected ...
 
@JoeWatkins there shall not be consequences if it were legitimate.
 
9:07 AM
even just including justification in the commit message would have been enough, if indeed there is justification for it ...
 
I just want to understand why. Not call him out.
 
I can't see it ...
what I think I do see is that now it's hard/impossible for extensions to switch scope
that needs discussing ... no question ...
 
@JoeWatkins True, but it's also is not reasonable to impose the death penalty for every offence. Sometimes people just aren't fully paying attention. What if he pushed to upstream master instead of a clone by accident? It benefits everyone to establish the facts before applying retribution.
 
am I right, is it now impossible for ext to switch to another scope to execute some method/fetch prop or whatever ?
it's not that I don't like it chris, he broke my shit ...
 
@JoeWatkins in this, case, then you have an actual reason…
 
9:09 AM
@JoeWatkins possibly by accident, and if you contact him privately and point that out he say "sorry, my bad" and immediately revert it. And if he doesn't, then it needs to be escalated.
But don't start with escalation, that just leaves everyone feeling butthurt
 
I don't see how it's escalation to ask publicly why a commit was made to a public repo, without discussion, and without justification in the commit message ...
 
If internals were a healthier environment then I would absolutely agree
 
a minute ago you were convinced I was being unreasonable ... we create our own atmosphere, there is nothing wrong with asking "what is going on?" when no explanation is forthcoming, I don't even need to mention that an explanation should have come before any change to get an answer to the question "what is going on?" ...
 
@JoeWatkins can you please mail Dmitry and set Xinchen, me and Nikita in CC?
 
it looks like if you set fake scope you can get properties
 
9:17 AM
@DaveRandom Not right now. I'm in a delivery
 
@JoeWatkins Reasonableness is not binary. I just meant that it could be possible to avoid some pain for everybody, it could be entirely accidental. And yes, public discussion is a good thing, but you know better than many people that being called out on internals for something is unpleasant, and it would be doubly so if that thing was entirely accidental. I've also been somewhat more confrontational than I meant to be by saying this and I do genuinely apologise for that.
 
yeah I'll just ask what it's actually about, and confirm it doesn't make anything impossible @bwoebi ...
 
yea, thanks :-)
 
@PeeHaa Moonlighting as a maternity nurse again?
 
@DaveRandom Not sure. Need to think about it. I don't want the current admin list to be able to pull on my server so maybe I can add a hardcoded list of you and me somewhere and add a !!update command
 
9:18 AM
morning!
 
@DaveRandom :P Yeah that looks stupid in english :P
FWIW it's gonna be a boy \o/
 
@PeeHaa I was thinking of a git hook that auto-deploys tags, maybe
 
your pregnant? gratz! :D
 
So that only people with direct commit access can trigger it
 
@kelunik Yes it has
@DaveRandom Not sure. Need to think about it. It's not like it's jailed atm
 
9:20 AM
kk
 
Aaaaaand I just locked myself out of the system because of you :P
 
mad skillz
 
brb calling client to beg a reset
 
does anyone know of a good sftp/scp client for windows? I'm using winscp at the moment, but it doesn't remember the directories when saving a workspace; when the workspace is reopened, all the sessions (with the same server) have the same directory. Also I don't want to use filezilla as it hurts my eyes
 
@bwoebi I think it does use the fake scope, but why it's called fake_scope and not just scope and why fetching scope used to be very cheap and is now sometimes quite expensive is not clear ...
 
9:24 AM
@JoeWatkins that's what made me wonder mainly
 
@Saitama record 32k
 
\o/ I haz access again to system
 
@PeeHaa again?
 
9:38 AM
17 mins ago, by PeeHaa
Aaaaaand I just locked myself out of the system because of you :P
Trying to put something in production but got distracted by chat
 
@PeeHaa Don't blame other people for your own stupidity ;-)
 
Of course. That's what the blamegame is all about :)
 
@nevernew I hear windows 10 has bash now, so you can use the shell scp command
 
well I have cygwin so I can do it from the cmd line anyway, but was hoping for a gui?
 
sorry, no idea for a gui. winscp and filezilla worked well for me when I was still using them
 
9:45 AM
anyone actually tried that ?
 
the bash on Windows? no, I am on Ubuntu
 
@Gordon wait, how do I not know about this?
 
yeah, I also use a proper os ...
 
> MARCH 30, 2016 11:57 AM
 
interested to know if it's any good though ...
 
9:46 AM
@DaveRandom I don't know. maybe you spend some time under a rock around March/April?
 
Suspiciously close to April 1st...
 
I have a Windows machine at home, but it's still on good ol' Win7. Windows 10 doesn't appeal to me that much.
 
@DaveRandom that was when you were ignoring us ...
I haven't actually seen win 10 even yet ...
 
tbh if it happened more than 2 hours ago then it could have been any time between 0 and 31 years ago
 
@DaveRandom well a whole 12:03 away
 
9:48 AM
I'm pretty sure it sucks ... the worst thing by far about windows is the stupidity of the command prompt ... and the additional stupidity of what they call a "power shell" ... I don't think it's more powerful, it may consume more energy ...
 
@DaveRandom if you missed the bash thing, chances are you also missed blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2016/03/07/…
 
@Gordon /me kills self
 
Anonymous
If anyone has any experience with Google's new API client library, would appreciate your help :C stackoverflow.com/questions/36910890/…
 
@JoeWatkins its not more powerful but it has its merits. still no replacement for a proper shell though
 
9:56 AM
!!wotd
 
gonzo: filled with bizarre or subjective ideas, commentary, or the like.
 
Gonzo sounds more like I word I make up when something has disappeared.
 
!!urban gonzo
 
@Jeeves So, basically that's describing @PeeHaa ;-)
 
@Oldskool @PeeHaa?
 
Anonymous
9:58 AM
!!urban php
 
urban seems broken
 
Anonymous
Yeah, probably a rate limit issue (if there is any)
 
Nah, don't think so. We're not using it that much.
 
!!logs
 
@Gordon I think Jeeves is just ignoring you.
 
10:02 AM
!!rebecca
 
@Gordon Happy Prebeccaday!
 
@Oldskool nope
 
You don't wanna see the urban one for Gonzo :P
 
Unfortunately I have some idea of where that will be going.
And no, it's not pretty ;-)
 
horrible, isnt it? when did we change from "lovable muppet" to … that?
 
10:05 AM
The world is a bit gonzo.
 
how are fiction and journalism both a means to the same end/ surely that's an oxymoron
 
Anonymous
!?
 
gonzo: 2) A perticular style of journalism used most famously by writer Hunter S. Thompson in the 60s and 70s, in which the journalist becomes a part of the action. A natural extension of Tom Wolfe's "New Journalism", Based upon the idea that fiction and journalism are both a means to the same end, and that the best journalists have always known this.
 
10:20 AM
@JoeWatkins could you please add a test for openssl in the tcp-nodelay branch?
 
can't, can't import the stream
also, I missed other types of stream, like fsockopen'd stuff, think that's important ?
 
what are ya guys workin' on
some sort of packet sniffing stuff?
 
@bwoebi btw I sent an email responding to the one from "Ariel" about how short list syntax behaves in assignment. I forgot to click Reply All.
The answer, as it turns out, is that it behaves the same as list() does ^^
 
@Andrea Ah good.
yes, they share same AST (except a tiny flag to prevent nesting)
 
yeah
Aside from this restriction, assignment with <php>[]</php> on the left-hand side behaves identically to <php>list()</php> in all respects.
Added this line to the RFC.
 
10:31 AM
fsockopen doesnt take a context, but fopen does ?
 
@JoeWatkins fopen does, but it should (?) be routed through streams API?
 
yeah, it's routed through "network"
 
so, it should not need special handling
 
is that streams, I don't think it knows :D
it does ...
I'm going to push a change ...
 
@JoeWatkins to php-src or your fork?
 
10:34 AM
to fork
 
ah
 
Ooh, someone emailed me to ask about list() assignment by reference: wiki.php.net/rfc/list_reference_assignment
I dropped that RFC two years ago because it seemed to be impossible within PHP 5.
Would probably be easy with the AST.
 
pushed, and added test for fopen ...
 
@Andrea yes, it is
 
can you think of a way to test ssl ? sockets won't let me import stream but maybe there is some debugging thing I don't know about in there ?
 
10:37 AM
@Andrea currently explicitly forbidden though in compiler
 
@bwoebi yeah, I noticed!
 
@JoeWatkins what do you need ext/sockts for with openssl?
 
Hardest bit might actually be updating ZEND_FETCH_LIST to handle references
 
to get the option from the raw socket
 
@Andrea I'd welcome if you'd put that RFC back to life
 
10:38 AM
unless you can think of a way to actually test ?
 
@bwoebi I'll think about it.
I can't think of where I'd use it, but I feel like there's no good reason not to have it.
Though, idk, maybe it'd be complicated with nested assignments
 
@JoeWatkins stream_context_get_option() … but that's verifying if context was duplicated, not if option actually set … so no…
@Andrea why should it be complicated with nested assigns?
 
@bwoebi does fetching an array to assign by reference from it work any differently than a normal array fetch?
 
@Andrea all we need is a specialization to fetch_w instead of fetch_r
 
I'm just wondering if, say, [&$a, &$b] = [$c, $d] = $array; might be complicated
 
10:46 AM
doubt it's very complicated
 
though maybe the result of an assignment expression is always read-only
 
we just need to do write fetches on each dimension if it contains a reference fetch
the result is just the rhs
@Andrea the main difference between read and write fetch is that the latter checks for potential separation (so that you don't implicitly modify another unrelated array due to CoW semantics)
(and doesn't throw notices, obviously)
 
11:07 AM
@Andrea all aspects? How does it handle the fact you have to do list(, , $a, $b) = [2 => 'a', 'b']; to access elements not starting at index 0?
 
@Leigh this is covered and works exactly the same with []
 
[, , $a, $b] = ...?
 
yes
 
nasty
 
@Leigh in what way?
 
11:13 AM
It's always bothered me I had to do that with list(), I was hoping this would actually destructure in order, not by index
 
@Leigh that's out of scope of that RFC
 
@Leigh yeah.
personally I don't like that the extra comma is significant
 
Agreeing too.
 
in Haskell or Prolog you'd do [_, a, b] which is clearer, I think
perhaps PHP could have something like that
 
11:29 AM
@bwoebi do you intend to do type expressions in multi types patch ?
 
@Andrea lua too
 
@JoeWatkins type expressions?
you mean A & (B|C) ?
 
Thing | (IFoo & IBar)
yeah
 
I didn't intend to, because I'm mainly not sure how to store and handle it…
 
me neither, I'm totally clueless, and I've thought about it quite a lot ... but it looks like there is no moving forward without them ...
that's what's in the rfc ...
 
11:34 AM
@JoeWatkins We can reduce complex expressions to a conjunctive or disjunctive (minimal?) form, but I'm not sure how to handle/store either forms.
 
I get stuck in a loop thinking about it ...
I got absolutely nothin ... but it sucks that we can't move forward ... because I'm waiting ... me me me ...
and also, some other people, maybe ...
 
Hii Guys ....
 
@JoeWatkins You might store it in a list of multi's but I really, really don't see how you can do that efficiently
 
Can you suggest me on particular one stackoverflow.com/questions/34795258/…
 
I'm not even convinced I want this ...
it's fine when we do examples with three types ... that's not how it's going to be used ...
I have the same problem with intersections and unions actually ...
at a certain point, you are just writing horrible code ...
I dunno where that point is ...
also
nobody is typing out the body of these methods ...
where they can accept a bunch of different things ... when it comes to expressive types, the body of the method isn't going to look much different to the body of the method with no type hinting at all, there will still be instanceof, still be type verification in userland ...
providing expressions I think it too costly ...
but nobody is really listening to me ... or levi isn't ...
same with a union of IFoo | IBar | IQux ... you still have to determine the actual type in the body of the method ... you know it's one of three, but that's not very useful, assuming they are all totally different interfaces ...
 
11:51 AM
0
Q: Access denied issue in wkhtmltopdf in IIS server

ViniDeployed my codeigniter application in IIS server. In my application i use wkhtmltopdf to generate pdf files. It always shows "Access is denied". What i did is, just gave the full permission to IIS user for application folder and also C:/windows/temp folder. Here is my code to generate pdf: ...

 
public function method(IFoo | IBar | IQux $foo) {
	if ($foo instanceof ConcreteFoo) {

	}

	if ($foo instanceof ConcreteBar) {

	}

	if ($foo instanceof ConcreteQux) {

	}

	if ($foo instanceof OtherConcreteFoo) {

	}

	/* and so on, until the end of time ... */
}
if we are heading for this, I want out ...
 
method overloading /me runs away
 
someone actually injected a symfony basecontroller into another class and now everything broke because they changed the methods to protected in 3.0... o.0
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier poo
 
12:03 PM
@Ocramius meh. I'm not exactly sure why all this hatred for overloading. It seems to be perceived as full smelly but... why? What's so bad about it? Maintainability? Sign of bad design?
Mar 6 at 9:42, by Joe Watkins
if you can't achieve whatever you are trying to achieve with method overloading, with interfaces instead, I reckon you are doing it seriously wrong ...
hmmm. well. k.
 
overloading doesn't actually solve the problem, it just splits the problem into pieces that are harder to see ... and creates problems of it's own
it could be seen as an alternative approach to unions but it's not a solution, for the same reasons, it's just harder to see ... but having one method with the body of ten methods is not better than having ten methods, and vice versa ...
 
overloading violates LSP??
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshiVersion2.0 no it doesnt. at least not the way its done in java
 
Hello everyone I've got a problem about plesk panel I bought new dedicated server and I want to use debian but I cant set settings like httpd.conf or www.conf. Can anybody help to me?
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshiVersion2.0 its more like you now have multiple contracts to uphold
 
12:10 PM
@BerkayYıldız What do you mean with "settings like httpd.conf or www.conf"?
 
it does complicate it though because you can override one of the implementations ...
 
@JoeWatkins this is horrible. I dont want that either
 
@Oldskool Plesk panel don't work with default setttings I should change apache and php-fpm configuration httpd.conf file is config file of apache
 
@BerkayYıldız The whole point of a control panel is that it manages that for you. But define "doesn't work with default settings". What's not working for you?
 
@Oldskool Unfortunately plesk can't do that if you have standard website maybe it can but I've got 1000+ online so servers modules can't response to requests and server says Internal server error or another error
 
12:15 PM
@Gordon thnks i think i took wrong it's must overiding which must adhere to LSP..
 
@BerkayYıldız If it gives internal server errors, you should inspect the error logs to find out what's causing them.
 
@Oldskool thank you very much I'll do it I should work too much.
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshiVersion2.0 LSP is about supertype methods in subtypes. with overloading you can have multiple methods of the same name but different arguments in the supertype
 
class Example {
    function something(Thing $a) {}
    function Something(Different $b, Something $c) {}
}
something like this ^
 
12:31 PM
!!docs strtr
 
[ strtr() ] Translate characters or replace substrings
 
^ that's overloading
 
Notice: Undefined index: is not removing ? How will I do for that ?
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshiVersion2.0 PHP is case-insensitive, there's no difference between something and Something :p
 
sorry for that..
 
12:33 PM
Notice: Undefined index: is not removing ? How will I do for that ?
 
Does it help when you ask it twice?
 
oh well, here comes the lasso guy
 
@MorganTouvereyQuilling I wouldnt say PHP is case insensitive. It's true for methods, but not variables.
@PeeHaa it helps with getting kicked faster //cc @GourabMazumder
 
@Gordon Yeah, sorry, I was just talking about methods and functions.
 
Could someone help me understand these lines of code?
            $myPcParts = array('cpu' => 'Intel', 'gpu'=>'Nvidia', 'mb'=>'Asus');
        foreach ($myPcParts as $hardware=>$parts) {
        echo 'My ' . $hardware . ' is ' . $parts . '. ';
    }
 
12:37 PM
0
Q: Php multidimensional search array key and value matching language pair

NewUserIn php I have two array like this $array1 = Array ( [0] => Array ( [source_language] => Arabic [target_language] => Array ( [0] => Assamese [1] => Azerbaijani ) ) [1] => ...

 
I don't understand where the $hardware is coming from?
 
3K user...
 
@Gordon Oh, just tested, class names are case-insensitive too :/
 
!!docs foreach
 
[ foreach ] The foreach construct provides an easy way to iterate over arrays. foreach works only on arrays and objects, and will issue an error when you try to use it on a variable with a different data type or an uninitialized variable. There are two syntaxes:
 
12:38 PM
@JamesSnowy 3v4l.org/5RUmI
@JamesSnowy its the key of the array
 
@Oldskool lol @Gordon
 
Notice that the same => syntax is used when declaring the array @JamesSnowy
 
@DaveRandom Yeah.
 
You could just read about arrays and how they work :-/ then "foreach"
 
array('cpu' => 'Intel'), so when you do foreach (... as $key => $val) over that array, $key will be 'cpu' and $val will be 'Intel'
!!docs arrays
 
12:41 PM
 
3 mins ago, by Jeeves
[ foreach ] The foreach construct provides an easy way to iterate over arrays. foreach works only on arrays and objects, and will issue an error when you try to use it on a variable with a different data type or an uninitialized variable. There are two syntaxes:
 
Oh, I see.
 
@PeeHaa Y U NO DEPLOY JEEVES?
(I wrote some shinier descriptions for things like data types)
 
@DaveRandom I just gave birth to a paid project. 1) get beer 2) open beer 3) pick my nose 4) deploy @jeeves
 
class MyClass {
int f() { ... }
float f() { ... }
}
is this illegal overloading or leagal??
 
12:45 PM
Also I'm trying to create a button in an ios app which for some stupid reason is harder than it sounds :P
 
@PeeHaa Forgive me for not being surprised by this
 
@PeeHaa I suppose that's a LIFO queue?
 
tbf android is waaay worse
@bwoebi :P
 
o/
 
@PeeHaa and I'm deeply disappointed about chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/30203986#30203986 not being automatic ;-)
 
12:49 PM
@bwoebi @DaveRandom was looking into it, but he got distracted and fixed !!docs instead
 
is 7.0.6 coming soon or do I need to downgrade? :/ issue
 
ah
@Patrick going to be announced today
 
@bwoebi awsum, thx
 
I have build a lot of half assed things in @jeeves. So there is enough to fix :)
 
@PeeHaa Only in Jeeves? ;-)
 
12:51 PM
@PeeHaa finish your work. make them full assed.
 
close-plz is not a tag
 
@Gordon Nobody likes working on 1 month old legacy crap :P
 
@Gordon ow, which one is it then?
 
@PeeHaa s/month/day
 
12:53 PM
 
@Naruto obviously
 
:-)
 
@Gordon Made me think of this: i.imgur.com/mtUL1H8.jpg
 
mm, had that one first, but thought close was better, my bad
 
12:59 PM
heh
 
@bwoebi pinning is trivial, sane unpinning logic not so much
 
@DaveRandom just serach for current pinned messages containing ?
 
@bwoebi This is not as simple as it sounds
 
oh
 
I am going to get it sorted in the next week or two, I have worked out how to do it and I have a plan, it's just writing and testing it
 
1:09 PM
who are those people who write search queries in dedicated google.com page and not in browser omnibox?
 
!!google I do this
 
lolfail
 
!!version
 
maybe it's the people in television adverts who don't seem to know how the web works and will say "just click on www.product.com" ...
 
1:14 PM
I get disproportionately annoyed by people who advertise www. and if your domain doesn't serve me a website from the root then you are not getting my business
You can redirect me to www. if you must, but stahp
 
@DaveRandom I know how you feel. That is frickin' annoying yeah.
 
Meetings are shit.
 
www subdomain is so 1990s, just drop it.
 
@JoeWatkins by the way I always wondered why in almost every TV series they use a "custom" search engine?
 
@Jimbo Get a new job, one that is not based at the sewage works
 
1:20 PM
is it connected to some copyright laws or what
 
@SergeyTelshevsky Because Google doesn't pay Hollywood to have their name in the shot.
 
@Oldskool and apple does?
 
@SergeyTelshevsky Oh yes, if you see a branded PC in a shot, someone paid for it! (Albeit Apple, Dell, Microsoft or whomever).
 
woah
WOAAHH
 
Otherwise they just use a brandless something (or even put a sticker over it, sometimes if you look close, you can see the real brand is "censored" like that).
 
1:22 PM
this is amazing
omfg!
 
@Gordon Did you make a scientific breakthrough?
 
can any buddy please help me if this is possible
Delimiter $$
CREATE TRIGGER blog_activation
AFTER INSERT ON `wp_urax_blogs`
FOR EACH ROW
BEGIN
INSERT INTO wp_urax_+NEW.blog_id+_posts
SELECT * FROM `wp_urax_posts` WHERE `post_type` = 'costcode'
END$$
Delimiter ;
 
@Oldskool I just found out lynx natively supports the gopher protocol
lynx gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/world
 
@Gordon Hmm, that's interesting.
 
amazeballs \o/
 
1:23 PM
Wasn't aware of that either.
 
@BasheerAhmed Your database structure is wrong. Do not create separate tables for each blog, have a single table and store the blog_id against each post
 
@DaveRandom hmmm currently I'm working with wordpress multisite so I need the following trigger to be executed whenever new blog is registered
 
What is that trigger supposed to do?
It seems to be duplicating the same set of posts every time, which is weird
 
whenever a new blog / site is registered I want to insert some default posts to that blog as well..
 
@BasheerAhmed can't you handle that from your application instead?
triggers move business logic into the db and hide it from the developer
 
1:28 PM
^ this, but also the whole table-per-blog thing seems very wrong
You either need a single table, or multiple databases/schemas/whatever the shitmess of MySQL calls it
Either stuff is fully segregated or it isn't, any attempt at a half-way is going to result in you having a bad time somewhere along the line
 
@Gordon that would hide from the developers but It's kind of my own application so I don't need to give it to someone else
 
#FamousLastWords
 
@DaveRandom Aren't you aware of the wordpress multisite?
 
No, I'm not aware of anything to do with wordpress, but I can't believe that even wordpress would do something like that
maybe they would
 
@BasheerAhmed maybe, but it still moves logic out of the application space
 
1:32 PM
@Gordon however is this possible? INSERT INTO wp_urax_+NEW.blog_id+_posts
though I'm getting error there
 
@DaveRandom I think in wordpress you'd use codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Action_Reference/wp_insert_post but dont cite me on that
 
Multiple installs, multiple dbs, or single db with prefixed tables, but still a full DB clone for each instance.
The multiple DBs option would be way easier, because then you can just have a "default DB" and clone it
 
@BasheerAhmed I'd never do it that way, so idk.
 
@BasheerAhmed Yes, but it's a really really horrible thing to do
 
@DaveRandom yup that sounds interesting
 
1:37 PM
For reference, that is how you would do it. But seriously, don't.
It's akin to eval() in PHP
!!docs evil
 
[ EvIdle ] EvIdle watchers trigger events when no other events of the same or higher priority are pending ( EvPrepare , EvCheck and other EvIdle watchers do not count as receiving events ).
 
Age old question - save the file before persisting the record, or vice versa?
 
awww
@Sean when handling file uploads?
 
@DaveRandom Yup.
 
IMO database being consistent with disk is more important than the opposite. If the record fails to get into the database, the user knows this and can reupload the file. The other way around and the user could lose data because they think it's there
 
1:43 PM
It's transactioned either way, the current system needs the record to persist so it has an ID generated, then uses that id as part of the file storage path
Which is really annoying, since I didn't realise and built a method which uploads the file before saving the record.
 
@DaveRandom eval and evidle have same levenshtein distance from evil ^^
you maybe should value replacements a bit higher than just additions
 
@bwoebi ?
 
@DaveRandom evil => the a is replaced to i (which equals a levenshtein distance of 2 because one deletion and one addition)
 
@bwoebi oic, we just relay the top result from php.net/manual-lookup.php?scope=quickref&pattern=evil
 
ah okay
 
1:56 PM
> most typically when a child dies or exits
 
@Sean how's the little devil angel leon?
 

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