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4:00 PM
Using the keyboard layout for that would be truly insane.
 
even if I go to the English page of stuff, some pages still sneak German downloads in...
fucking GeoIP
 
Can I get one more reopen vote here: stackoverflow.com/questions/13559928/…
 
there is too much anime in this room
 
@thecoshman I count 2 or 3?
 
@Mysticial done
 
4:02 PM
@TonyTheLion thx :)
 
-7
Q: Allow under-13 users

Jeff АtwoоdIt would be nice if SO allowed under-13 users with parental consent (obviously) as there is a growing population of under-13 programmers. I am aware that COPPA applies to SO.

 
I know I will get suspended soon. — Jeff Аtwoоd 8 mins ago
b&?
 
@Mysticial like I said, too many
 
And please, I have created a "hello world" kernel so I'm not that dumb. — Jeff Аtwoоd 8 mins ago
Well then.
 
4:07 PM
:( deleted
 
@Mysticial where does one have to specify age for using SO?
 
he got banned/deleted
@Cheersandhth.-Alf It's in the terms you agreed to sign up with
 
I have a feeling the guy isn't really sub under-13 kid.
 
> Subscriber certifies to Stack Exchange that if Subscriber is an individual (i.e., not a corporate entity), Subscriber is at least 13 years of age. No one under the age of 13 may provide any personal information to or on Stack Exchange (including, for example, a name, address, telephone number or email address).
 
It might be another troll account from Evan Carroll.
 
4:09 PM
@Mysticial Oh, that guy.
 
> Oops! There was a problem updating your profile:
> Birthday must be before 1999/11/27
oops
but of course one can just lie
 
@Mysticial Who?
 
and kids need to be taught that today's society is largely based on lies
 
@EtiennedeMartel One of the famous contemporaneous trolls on SE.
 
4:10 PM
He posts some of the most ridiculous things.
Question-banned on meta.
And so he creates new accounts to keep on posting.
 
He ran for English.SE mod, IIRC.
 
-50
Q: Badge suggestion: HATER, LOVER, and FAIR AND BALANCED

Evan CarrollI wanted to suggest three new badges: HATER: If you've downvoted any one person more than 20 times. LOVER: If you've upvoted any one person more than 20 times. FAIR AND BALANCED: If you've upvoted AND downvoted one person more 20 times UP and DOWN. What do you think? Then we would finally kno...

lol
 
-15
Q: Flash Card Mode!

Evan CarrollI have another feature request for Stack Overflow... Flash Card mode! Imagine a system where you could upload all of your homework question from your CS 101 course, get them answered by professionals for free, and then after reading all the answers review them in a mode that concealed the answer ...

Damn.
 
I think the only reason why he isn't suspended for a long time is because he's careful enough to never share an ip or Openid with his main account. Otherwise, there would be enough evidence to merge and suspend him for circumventing the question ban.
@ScottW That sounds like a performance disaster... oh wait...
 
@sehe it should (has to) be struct, not class :-) (just discovered that, consider that we both failed to notice)
 
I was just looking at that
 
meh @
 
meh @ meh
meh@meh.meh
 
meh @ *
 
4:20 PM
oh wait
I don't know what's there
 
Spam site.
 
not sure if I should try
 
@TonyTheLion I think you a word
it's not much at all at all
 
any hoops, time to trudge home, and dwindle away the night so I can come back in the morning and waste yet another day of my life ¬_¬
peace out
 
4:21 PM
I guess I've been in SO long enough to guess which questions are downvoted.
 
@thecoshman sounds terrible
 
omg... They hid the startup folder pretty damn well in Win8.
 
Is -50 the minimum score ?
 
@Mysticial where is it?
 
Here's the path:
C:\Users\Haruka\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
 
4:23 PM
@kbok There isn't one.
 
> Great job, you got it all right in 48.45 seconds. You can now click on the question titles to learn more about the topics, or have another go to see if you can be even faster!
 
...hasn't it been here for a while?
 
@Mysticial That's not new in Win8.
 
:|
 
4:23 PM
C:\Users\Alf\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
^ Win7
looks pretty much the same?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf so win8 uses anime names in the path? :3
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf But you can't get to it from the start button since they took it out.
 
but you have a huge start screen now, can't you search for it or something :p
 
You can't access it via msconfig?
 
4:25 PM
ah, well i opened it from the "All Programs" list of the Start menu
 
@melak47 You can only search for things that MS wants you to search for.
 
@Mysticial ^_^
 
Microsoft is pretty good at censoring itself.
 
image of boy singer, that must be flag-worthy offensive yes?
 
blergh.
 
4:25 PM
searching Google for Facebook you get: "About 19,980,000,000 results" Holy shit
 
I hope this stupid touch-interface-on-the-desktop thing blows over, soon
 
About 25,270,000,000 results (0.26 seconds) for 'a' :D
 
the letter a is only slightly more popular than facebook...what has happened D:
 
@melak47 no, they will just change the desktop monitor to appear more touch-worthy, like, more curves perhaps?
 
@melak47 Maybe the desktop will blow over instead.
 
4:27 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok, when's visual touch studio coming out? :)
 
GUIS
 
How the fuck do I get low resolution timers in Windows? Aka <1ms
 
@Cicada low resolution?
 
Yeah, lowwwww
 
4:28 PM
@Cicada lol
 
why do you need an imprecise timer
how can your timer be too accurate?
 
@Cicada Resolution is a frequency, so you want high resolution.
 
Maybe she wants to be late.
 
I meant high. High resolution.
Fuck you guis
 
QueryPerformanceCounter.
 
4:29 PM
std::chrono::high_resolution_clock ? maybe? :D
 
Okay basically I want to trigger an event every 100ms. Not 110ms.
 
@Cicada ms or µs
 
Oh timers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. Timers. Not clocks!
 
@Cicada You cannot have very exact timers on non RT systems, can you?
 
4:31 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No but 15.6ms resolution is fucking low
 
Watch your fucking language please
 
No, fuck you!
 
sbi
Does someone have the nerve to look at this code and the output GCC generates for it? With VC, the first line printed reads const: blah char const [5], while GCC calls the other overload of print_expression(). I don't understand why GCC does that.
 
sbi
4:33 PM
Room freezes while everybody looks at my code.
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's just a marker for me when the thing is called with a const char array.
 
OH, output, not code.
 
I've looked and that's about as far as I'll go.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah. Yeah, that might have been confusing. Fixed the question for you. :)
@TonyTheLion Lemme see. Looks at lion. You look soft, not hard.
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@sbi ok, you can have a star for that
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Yeah, I am trying really hard to not to have you flood the starboard with that nonsense you pick up at reddit.
:)
 
4:39 PM
@sbi can you reduce the example a little, perhaps?
 
@sbi oh you calling what I post nonsense now?
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion No, not what you post. Only that part that regularly gets starred. :)
 
It's not me starring it
I only post it, and seems that it often get's starred
 
sbi
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I could, but this is almost my real code I am using, and I supposed this would be a small thing that GCC gets more correct than VC, and the usual suspects would point it out to me in no time. You can ignore most of what's at the top, the first interesting thing is struct expression in line 70.
But, yeah, if nobody finds anything in its current state, I will have to boil it down.
 
T is not deduced as const char[N] in your concatenation operator.
const T is.
I think.
testing
Is that clear?
 
sbi
4:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope. Not at all.
 
On line 112.
 
woah, TIL ape likes template masturbation
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Something wrong with T?
 
Oh, sorry. 113-
 
4:47 PM
expression<T, tail_type> is expression<char[N], tail_type> , not expression<const char[N], tail_type>
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes At that point T should be const char[N]. You mean it isn't?
 
@sbi It isn't, see test program I posted above.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes It drops the const??
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Yes?
 
4:48 PM
@sbi The const is in the parameter type: const T&
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah. Lemme try...
 
References to const arrays are weird.
 
Okay so this is 2012 and no way to get high resolution timers in Windows?
 
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A: Why list::push_back much slower in VC++ than g++?

SoontsIf you're on Windows and worry about performance, don't use STL containers. Functionally-equivalent ATL container classes are usually much faster. On my laptop (i5-2410M CPU, Windows 7 64) your example (when compiled in Release build with visual studio 2010 for 64 bits) executes in 740 milliseco...

^^ WTF?!?!
> Performance penalty for using open source libraries is about 50%.
What kind of FUD is that?
 
@kbok You mean with StringBuilder?
 
4:50 PM
@kbok oh, via reflection. but that's, like, well unexpected i would say
 
@Mysticial priceless :')
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes When I make this typedef expression<const T, tail_type>..., all hell breaks lose.
 
Say, for T = char[N], T const& is not char (const&)[N] (that does not even compile), but the const instead leaks into the element types: const char[N]. Its messy.
@sbi Lemme see.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf No, you can inject an encoding engine using the "vanilla" API which has mutable access to the underlying byte buffer
@Collin Nope.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes This works because I removed the const in the print_expression() function, but I am not satisfied with it.
afk
 
4:52 PM
And there are libraries in the wild which actually do that
 
@sbi Btw, the errors there also show the issue "(...) const T&) [with T = char [5] (...)"
 
@kbok where?
 
@Cicada How much resolution do you need? timeGetTime does the job just fine for my purposes xD
 
she's an insect, she can't think in terms longer than a minute
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@FredOverflow She wants timers that schedule execution of stuff, not timers that count time. Silly English.
 
4:56 PM
@Cicada Uh. I wrote a Stopwatch class for Windows. If I'm not crazy, it.. uh. Should have pretty high resolution timing. I also wrote a joint TimeSpan class as well. If you remove all my silly FURROVINE*-based engine dependencies and just replace them with std:: types, it should work just fine. pastebin.com/BDipV0XC
 
24 secs ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@FredOverflow She wants timers that schedule execution of stuff, not timers that count time. Silly English.
 
Oh.
 
26
Q: Create a mutable java.lang.String

bestsssIt's common knowledge that Java Strings are immutable. Immutable Strings are great addition to java since its inception. Immutability allows fast access and a lot of optimizations, significantly less error-prone compared to C-style strings, and helps enforce the security model. It's possible to ...

 
Well, looks like I'm Herpin' the Derp.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you gonna post that every 24 seconds now? :)
 
4:57 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes So like, a Dispatcher?
 
@FredOverflow As long as it is necessary.
@ThePhD Like a timer.
 
.... <_____> I give up.
 
You know, SetTimer and friends.
 
DispatcherTimer?
 
SetTimer.... huh. Never heard of it. Looks it up.
 
4:58 PM
Although that's WPF stuff.
But it would probably work in any .NET app. You simply need a Dispatcher.
 
Is @Cicada using WPF? o_O Or any associated .NET tech?
 
@kbok oh gawd
 
I know she used to do C#.
 
I assumed she was writing a C++ app
 

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