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user142019
6:07 PM
@EtiennedeMartel it is not possible to acquire coffee for $0 without much effort, but it is possible to acquire a song for $0 without much effort. And people are lazy.
 
user142019
Yet another foolish comparison made by somebody who doesn’t know why.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Just knowing why, doesn't make something right
 
user142019
Moreover, coffee can make you feel good.
 
@Zoidberg'-- So can songs.
 
Good afternoon, I have this code in my PluginManager gist.github.com/04876315636b09f2254a. I am trying to add a .DLL to the PluginManager's linked list. Before I joined the project, two .DLL's were already added. Now that I'm trying to add a new one, I have regsvr32'd the .DLL and it shows up in regedit where the other .DLL's are, however when I make calls to the PluginManager, it doesn't load the new .DLL. Does anyone have experience with this type of problem?
 
user142019
6:10 PM
@Borgleader that’s a different kind of “feel good”.
 
@Zoidberg'-- It's not exactly foolish. It's another proof that humans are irrational and prone to applying double standards.
 
user142019
You know, I would never buy coffee either.
 
user142019
It tastes terrible.
 
My .DLL has the same format as the other .DLL's, with different GUIDs, however it still won't pick up the dll
 
@Zoidberg'-- You still have very much to learn, young one.
 
user142019
6:11 PM
Also, not that those kind of annoying images are going to make any difference.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Much to learn you still have, young padawan.
 
@Borgleader Yeah, I felt like I overused the Star Wars references, so...
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel Huh? How can I learn the taste of coffee again? I tried it a few times and I know how it tastes. Terrible.
 
user142019
It’s bitter as fuck. Even with lots of sugar and milk.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Maybe it was crappy coffee.
And of course it's bitter. But bitterness is good.
Same thing with beer.
 
user142019
6:14 PM
Bitter drinks taste terrible.
 
user142019
And bitter food tastes terrible.
 
Keep trying, you'll like it eventually.
 
@Zoidberg'-- I think you had crappy coffee
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel That would be drinking coffee just for the sake of drinking coffee.
 
user142019
I could just as well never drink coffee.
 
6:17 PM
@Zoidberg'-- Hey, at least there's caffeine in there.
 
user142019
“Keep using Java. You’ll like it eventually.” Yeah, so what? I could use Clojure instead anyway.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Or Scala.
 
It's not the same. Coffee gets good after a while. Java? Never.
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
I prefer milk and soda.
 
user142019
6:18 PM
No, not mixed, sillies.
 
user142019
I tried this today and it was fucking tasty:
 
user142019
 
I like tea.
 
user142019
Raspberry milk.
 
user142019
People who flag in the Android room are fucking morons. It is a closed room, which is annoying, and then they annoy us even more by flagging stuff.
 
user142019
Some employers ban the use of the letter o. In some cases it's to avoid confusion with the Arabic numeral for "five", and in others it may be for ethical or religious reasons. — Kerrek SB 3 mins ago
 
@EtiennedeMartel it needs to be edited
 
user142019
 
@Zoidberg'-- wut
 
user142019
It’s from /b/.
 
6:27 PM
@Zoidberg'-- You have an obsession with meaningless language charts don't you...
 
@Zoidberg'-- that person does not know languages :/
@Zoidberg'-- German is a bad language. As is English. Spanish is roughly the same as Italian.
 
user142019
@MooingDuck let me introduce you to /b/.
 
user142019
> The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
 
@Zoidberg'-- I'm aware
 
user142019
Then y u complain.
 
Ell
6:28 PM
@Zoidberg'-- why on earth is spanish at the bottom?
 
@Zoidberg'-- Y u post shit from /b/ here?
 
fuuuuu
why does my function have a bunch of free calls in it?
 
You're coding C?
 
no
because I nubbed up and didn't properly edit the call site
 
user142019
Free the mallocs!
 
6:33 PM
@Zoidberg'-- This smacks of racism. Also, the chart is in English, so it's not neutral. It should have been written in Esperanto.
 
user142019
5 mins ago, by Zoidberg'--
> The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
 
harhar
I should have looked more carefully at that function
it was taking up all the time, but it wasn't due to the SSE processing, it was the memory allocations/deallocations
 
@Zoidberg'-- Does that mean the author said "I have no balls, so I cannot stand by what I say"?
 
user142019
No, it says that the author is joking.
 
6:36 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Maybe he's an eunuch.
 
user142019
GUYS!!1
 
user142019
I’m in the mood to write software.
 
Bottom line: fuck 4chan. Bunch of cowards.
 
lol
I love VS2012's new Intellisense
mouseover variable, Intellisense popup says "This is the most horrifically named variable ever. It has nothing to do with it's supposed function and actually performs this other function instead."
 
Ell
6:40 PM
@Zoidberg'-- make an android app!
 
user142019
@Ell fuck Android.
 
user142019
@DeadMG its
 
@DeadMG Screenshot or it didn't happen.
 
6:41 PM
@DeadMG What's the question you had?
TF2 servers down ATM...
 
@Mysticial Doesn't matter. Turned out that I was completely barking up the wrong tree.
 
oh, lol
 
user142019
@DeadMG inconsistent line heights, last line is a bit more to the left. Conclusion: seems legit.
 
@Zoidberg'-- It's a Microsoft program. You were expecting the pretties?
 
Only one more hour 'til Herb, right?
 
user142019
6:43 PM
@DeadMG that’s why I’m saying “seems legit”. :P
 
it's created that way because the comments it's generated from are that way
 
user142019
@FredOverflow Herb Schildt! :D
 
Ell
@Zoidberg'-- write some software for money. also why do you have '-- at the end of your name?
 
@FredOverflow Seems like it.
 
@Borgleader this
 
6:44 PM
also, the line heights are identical as far as I can see
 
user142019
@Ell I want that and decoration.
 
user142019
@DeadMG yeah I couldn’t really tell due to the crappy Windows text rendering.
 
@DeadMG That's what I was thinking. Awesome
 
@EtiennedeMartel Okay, watching "JVMLS 2012: Arrays 2.0 - Opportunities and Challenges" until then.
 
6:47 PM
man
sin and cos are taking up way too much time
 
Aren't they built into the FPU with lookup tables and stuff?
 
user142019
Video game?
 
@FredOverflow I thought so.
@Zoidberg'-- ?
@FredOverflow Yes, it does, but they won't be faster unless I need to sin 1million things at once.
 
user142019
lol
 
Does SSE2 support trigonometric functions?
 
6:49 PM
@DeadMG I have had software lookup tables be significantly faster
 
@Zoidberg'-- Yeah, didn't we go over this already, douchebucket?
 
Ell
wtf! How did that happen?
"Yes it does"
(a second later)
"Does SSE2 support trig functions?"
HOW!?
 
I'm psychic
 
psycho
 
Psypup.
 
6:51 PM
template<class T1, class T2>
inline typename CombinatorTraits<T1>::Result
operator <<=( const T1& x1, const T2& x2 ) f
return x1(x2);
 
Can hardware FPU instructions run in parallel with 'normal' CPU execution?
 
Like the korean singer.
 
you can do that?
overload operator<<=
 
of course you can
 
didn't even know that existed...
always learn something
 
6:52 PM
@TonyTheLion left shift and assign?
 
<< is shift, and <<= is shift assign, just like + is addition and += is addition assign.
 
@Ell You can edit messages after the fact.
 
@EtiennedeMartel New pokemon?
 
@Borgleader Yes.
 
@Collin it's for a bind operator in a Functional implementation of C++
 
6:53 PM
I've have never used operator <<= once in my life. I feel reluctant to do it now because then I'll have broken something.
 
@Ell first questoin was FPU, second was SSE. different
 
I probably have never used %= either.
 
@StackedCrooked I use it quite a bit when interacting with hardware registers
 
Does GCC ever define _DEBUG? It seems to be executing my debug code.
 
6:57 PM
_DEBUG is an MSVC macro, I'm pretty sure.
 
nevermind, it's all in my head, it's outputting non-debug stuff
 
down to 0.00035s/tick
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck Standard only mandates NDEBUG
 
@Xeo The Standard mandates a debugging macro?
 
Xeo
@DeadMG for the assert macro
 
7:02 PM
@TonyTheLion I think you mean foooooood
 
damn
ever since I statically linked the CRT, the VS profiler has been dying.
 
The Unknwn.h question is being closed again :( stackoverflow.com/questions/13200877/…
 
@MooingDuck Because it's unanswerable.
 
@DeadMG the question was edited to say which header of which library. Is it still unanswerable?
 
@DeadMG Why?
 
7:05 PM
well, that's an improvement
but it's still hardly answerable- you're talking about one random implementation decision by one random guy, a very long time ago.
 
It's worth asking.
 
ask yourself how many people in the entire world know the answer to that question
 
@DeadMG that's not unanswerable, that's unknown.
wait, I see what I did ther.
 
@MooingDuck Lame Pun Duck
 
which is effectively the same thing, since virtually nobody can do it.
 
7:06 PM
@Borgleader you eat squirrels?
 
@DeadMG It's still worth trying.
 
@TonyTheLion No but you might
 
"Oh, I'm pretty certain no one knows, so I'm gonna close it to make sure no one knows"
It's like self fulfilling or something.
 
@Borgleader oh damn. I forgot I was a lion.
 
@EtiennedeMartel "Oh, I'm pretty certain no one knows, so instead of asking here the OP should go and find somebody with a vague hope of actually knowing, instead of asking a bunch of people who can't possibly know."
 
7:07 PM
 
@DeadMG Seems like you're assuming a lot of thing there.
 
@EtiennedeMartel He has an extremely, ridiculously specific question. It's not a fit to a general-purpose Q&A.
 
@DeadMG well that's entirely different. That's a completely different close reason, and not what we were debating.
Jun 26 at 19:12, by Sam DeHaan
@DeadMG Whoosh, the sound the goalposts make as they fly past us.
Jan 23 at 12:36, by jalf
@DeadMG you didn't say that before. Moving the goalposts again
Jan 11 at 16:10, by jalf
@DeadMG and once again, you're moving the goalposts. My claim was that having a working knowledge of asm is useful, because @CatPlusPlus claims to have learned some asm at university, and also believes he has learned nothing useful there
 
7:12 PM
I think I made a point earlier
6 hours ago, by Tony The Lion
@DeadMG I have to disagree too. It's got some nice things about it. However I'm not going to argue with you about this. Cause doing that I may as well bang my head into a brick wall, cause it's about the same thing.
that is valid
 
God help me. I am loading Eclipse.
 
Flying goalposts o.O
 
Hello everyone! I'm still alive.
 
@Nican God won't help you. You have to do it yourself :P
 
Good bye everyone! Nice chatting with y'all!
 
7:12 PM
Haha.
 
@Drise that was fast
 
@Drise ?
 
@TonyTheLion That's what she said.
 
God help me, part 2. I forgot I have to install Java first.
 
@Borgleader I wish she said that, because that would mean there was a she in my life. :(
@Nican Fail.
 
7:13 PM
@Nican uber-fail
@TonyTheLion Welcome to the cub.
 
@MooingDuck It's unanswerable because it's too specific, and thus it's not a good fit. Same thing.
 
@DeadMG alright, I guess I was debating NARQ and Not Constructive.
 
I wouldn't call either of those things on it
it's definitely a question, and there's nothing inherently non-constructive about it
 
7:17 PM
That's useful indeed.
 
@EtiennedeMartel So much hate
 
@MooingDuck I told you, if you get regular you would read problem thrice
 
@Borgleader It's legit.
 
posted on November 02, 2012 by Scott Meyers

The October Overload article I blogged about earlier, "Universal References in C++11," is now available online at the spanking new ISOCpp.org website. In conjunction with my video presentation at Channel 9 on the same topic, this means you now have your choice of three different ways to experience my pitch for adding "universal reference" to the accepted C++ vocabulary: Overload version: Monoch

 
Mwahaha I may get an extra 10% on my web exam
 
7:26 PM
@MooingDuck: To get over the TLE, you would want to think asymptotically.
 
First attempt: compiler error, compiler not in C++11 mode.
Second attempt: compiler error, compiler doesn't have the libstdc++ headers I thought it did
 
The C++ broadcast should start in a few minutes, not?
 
@VinayakGarg Yeah, there's various optimizations that I can apply, as well as a total rewrite to be faster at certain things and slower at others
 
@MooingDuck The gcc version is 4.3.2, can it compile C++11?
 
@VinayakGarg right now, all operations except LED should (for random inputs) be log(N), and LEDs are Xlog(N) where N is number of cells and X is number of power-things
@VinayakGarg it could do parts if they passed the right flags. But they don't.
 
7:30 PM
@StackedCrooked Its about Unity at this moment
 
of course, for particular inputs, my code degenerates to O(N) and O(XN) right now. I'd imagine one of those inputs happened.
 
From codechef wiki
> The flags used for C++ are: g++ -pipe -O2 -lm -s -fomit-frame-pointer
 
@VinayakGarg yeah, the wiki also says it's using version 4.0.0.8 or something if I recall
 
@Zoidberg'-- ^
 
@MooingDuck You may want to reconsider your approach!
 
7:32 PM
@EtiennedeMartel s/Coffee/meth/
 
@VinayakGarg I started reconsidering a while ago, I just ran it to see if I had to bother
 
@MooingDuck There is option (while submitting) between C++ 4.0 & C++ 4.3
 
@StackedCrooked Coffee. Not even once.
 
@VinayakGarg I've got several algorithms in mind, this one should have been fastest on average, for cases with few voltages. Since it failed, I'll move to a slower one that handles more voltages better.
 
7:33 PM
@MooingDuck Yes that's the best approach
 
@VinayakGarg still doesn't have C++11 features unless the right flag is passed.
 
@MooingDuck For such small programs, I think you can do without C++11
 
@VinayakGarg oh sure. But it was irritating to have a failure because I had auto.
 
@MooingDuck While using iterators, I miss auto
 
I just misheard "layer of abstraction" as "layer of distraction".
Maybe I didn't misunderstand :)
 
7:36 PM
lol
 
@MooingDuck: Hint: While solving problems on Codechef, I have learned lots of awesome stuff. Maths, Algos, Data Structures
 
@VinayakGarg I don't think I need hints yet, I'm currently sorting through various algorithms mentally to determine my next attempt still.
 
I unfortunately have no sound right now, so I'm gonna have to wait a bit.
 
Can I view the stream in VLC?
 
7:41 PM
@MooingDuck: If you solve only one problem your rating (currently default), will go down. So try solving others as well.
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow Thanks, almost forgot!
 
What's "Ask questions about the Unity game engine with Unity developers."? Are they referring to Unity3D?
 
@VinayakGarg yep
 
@TonyTheLion Inside Channel9?
 
Xeo
Live from //build/ con
 
7:45 PM
@VinayakGarg no
 
Xeo
Yay, Herb's up.
 
Marketeer :p
 
Xeo
crosses fingers for variadic templates in VC
 
@Xeo Sure. In 2018.
 
Xeo
:(
 
7:47 PM
Actually, it's 20018.
Just kidding :)
 
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Q: What about an Epic Fail Badge?

Colby GuyerSo we have Epic Badge but what about Epic Fail? Like losing more reputation in a day than you gain?

 
C/C++ ಠ_ಠ
 
posted on November 02, 2012 by Charles, STL

Part 6 is a special episode in which Stephan takes a look at the latest C++11 features that were just added to the Visual C++ compiler: -          Variadic templates -          Raw string literals -          Explicit conversion operators - &

 
You could get that badge. — Etienne de Martel 11 secs ago
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked He specifically said "C or C++", though. :P
 
7:51 PM
C++11 features that were just added to the Visual C++ compiler:

- Variadic templates
- Raw string literals
- Explicit conversion operators
- Default template arguments for function templates
- Delegating constructors
- Uniform initialization
7
 
Xeo
@Praetorian FUCK YEAH
 
@Xeo That's what I'm sayin'
 
Inherited constructors seem like the easiest to implement, but all compilers seem reluctant to implement it.
Oh, apparently GCC 4.8 has it.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Doesn't seem to be that easy.
 
Cool, but it'll probably be another year or more before MinGW catches up
 
7:56 PM
WOOT NEW C++11 FEATURES
 
fuck yeah!
 
Xeo
I know too much about C++, apparently. :(
 
@Xeo You can remedy this with two bottles of vodka.
 
I hope "November" is not Nov. 30
 
@Abyx nov is december.
 
Xeo
7:58 PM
He is so keeping variadic templates for the end.
 
@StackedCrooked In Valve time?
 
Common base class is a better workaround than init function imo.
@EtiennedeMartel In Belgian Waffle time.
 
Waffles. It's been a while since I had that.
 
Xeo
Too bad the library doesn't adapt list-init in the CTP yet.
 
aaargh "buffering"
 
Xeo
8:03 PM
I'm so happy right now.
 
oh... now I'm happy too
 
Xeo
6 mins ago, by Xeo
He is so keeping variadic templates for the end.
Told ya.
 
yep
 
@Xeo Teach me master.
 
wow
they've really pushed out the packet on this one
 
8:06 PM
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A: win32 API open a jpg in a picture control c++

Cheers and hth. - AlfThe OleLoadPicturePath API function can load a JPEG file. Then it's just a matter of accessing the bits. There's also the Windows Imaging Component API, but I haven't used that. I suspect that it also works, though, and it may be simpler than dealing with the OLE stuff, but here I exemplify Ol...

^ I answered it again. Now is a moderator going to convert that also to comment? Hm.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Great choice of picture.
 
thanks! :-)
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf LOL that picture
 
Xeo
Oh, Pete.
 
@Xeo ?
 
8:10 PM
what about him?
 
Xeo
@Borgleader That guy has been involved in the standardization of C++ since the beginning.
 
@GamErix so that's where CatPlusPlus went?
 
user1182183
@melak47 yep adopted xd
 
8:20 PM
@JerryCoffin Dammit, you beat me by six years :)
 
wait, what, VC++ got more C++11 stuff :o
 
@StackedCrooked I have unfair advantages -- as long as your buy the notion that being older than dirt is an advantage!
 
New standard in 2014? I'm pessimistic.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf updated
5
A: How to disallow temporaries in C++

Johannes Schaub - litbThis one doesn't result in a compiler error, but a runtime error. Instead of measuring a wrong time, you get an exception which may be acceptable too. Any constructor you want to guard needs a default argument on which set(temporary) is called. class Foo; struct BooleanSwitch { BooleanSwitch...

 
@StackedCrooked and another one in 2017 :p
 
8:24 PM
@StackedCrooked But much like the '03 standard, intended mostly to handle minor fixes to the standard itself, with little in the way of real changes to the language (which at least makes it a little more reasonable).
 
Alright, now I'm optimistic.
 
user1182183
The dog can't stay away from the cat xd
 
user1182183
heeee's soooooooo jealoussssssssssss
 
@Xeo Yes but why the "Oh Pete"
 
Xeo
@Borgleader Well, he was mentioned on the live stream.
 
8:35 PM
posted on November 02, 2012 by Eric Battalio

November 2, 12:45pm PDT C++ use and investment continues to grow strongly in all parts of the software industry, and broadly across all major industries. As Herb Sutter said, more than ever “Microsoft is built on C++, and the world runs on C++.” At the same time, programmers now need to be educated that C++ is not the same language it was in the past; with the new C++11 standard th

posted on November 02, 2012 by Eric Battalio

On February at the Going Native conference, we promised to work on implementing more parts of the C++11 standard. We also made a commitment to progressively roll out these features on a faster cadence through out-of-band releases such as CTPs (customer technology previews). We delivered! Today at Build 2012, Herb Sutter announced that we’re following through on our commitment by sh

 
> ...two kinds of fucks...
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb hmmmm. a bit complex
 
Xeo
@Abyx That's how you pronounce "fuck"? :P
 
@Xeo yeah, sort of
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf dammit, i have a bug in it
@Cheersandhth.-Alf the boolean switcher needs to set the pointer to null
 
8:41 PM
Woah that was an inspiring talk from Herb Sutter! :)
 
Xeo
Q&A in 45 mins, huh.
 
@Xeo on the same page?
 
Xeo
Damn, not enough time to watch STLs vid. :(
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf i will revert to the other solution that worked (and still prevented the "foo f = "foo" to throw
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Seems like it.
 
8:42 PM
:)
 
Xeo
It's atleast in the program guide
 
right
 
why is it that you can compile ptr * 4 ? (@Xeo)
 
It converts to bool, and that converts to int.
 
Xeo
8:45 PM
@TonyTheLion Assuming you just have operator bool(), you get a user-defined conversion to that, and then a standard-conversion from bool to int, and then get the multiplication.
 
oh wow
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow Not enough time until the Q&A. :(
 
so these raw literals, was that in the standard?
 
Xeo
Sure
 
yep
 
8:46 PM
@Xeo Oh wow, it's over an hour long? That's unusual for STL.
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow Hey, that was rather normal back with the first STL series IIRC.
 
hmmm nice to know there's lots of stuff happening for the C++ community
it's not just us loungers here :P
 
Ell
yihaaaa I fixed it!
 
Tomorrow I'm going to drive my car for the first time. Woot :)
 
Ell
It was a retard mistake.
 
8:48 PM
@Xeo Why don't we produce our own C++ videos? :)
@Ell What was it?
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow I'm bad at talking to people. :(
 
@Xeo You just have to talk to a camera.
 
you should produce a video titled: "C++ Template Masturbation: How it's done the right way."
 
@Xeo why people? talk to a camera
 
Ell
@FredOverflow I was trying to get a gen1/2/3/4 moveset of a gen 5 pokemon, obviously not every pokemon was in all gens xD stupid me!
 
8:50 PM
@VinayakGarg the first step to solving many is solving one.
 
@Ell I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
 
oh Pokemon
 
@Xeo Just imagine everyone naked. Except the smart pointers.
5
 
@Ell did you see my halloween pumpkin?
 
Ell
@FredOverflow :3 I just made a silly error
 
8:50 PM
I understand that.
 
Ell
@MooingDuck yah the pikachu one? that was pretty neat :D
 
@Ell unfortunately it rotted a full week before halloween :( I'm not the best planner
 
@FredOverflow Hmmmm and I have a reputation?
 
Ell
@MooingDuck aww man :/
 
@TonyTheLion hey congratz!
 
8:51 PM
@FredOverflow He was parsing data for all pokemon, except not all of the data existed for all pokemon.
 
fuck
what was that link to the VS 2012 CTP?
 
@TonyTheLion Last time I drove a car was when I was a kid, at the beach :)
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Hopefully I don't drive into anything, I'm still a learner.
 
@FredOverflow you don't drive then?
 
cheers
dling now
 
@TonyTheLion I use trains and buses and my feet.
 
@FredOverflow I also use trains and buses, but avoid using my feet much, but I need to be able to drive.
Flexibility and shit
 
sure
 
@DeadMG me too :)
 
8:58 PM
yay
my variadic template... it compileth!
 
user image
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@DeadMG Woo :)
 
@DeadMG woo!
 
@DeadMG As was foretold.
 
indeed
what were the other features?
 
Finally I can play around with variadics in VS
 
Xeo
8:59 PM
raw literals, delegating ctor, uniform init
 
^
 
Xeo
default template args for function templates
 
uniform initialization... variadic templates... explicit conversion operators... raw literals... delegating constructors... default function template arguments...
ok
I think I'm fairly happy with that list
 

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