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10:00 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Oh thanks for pointing it out. That one is certainly not Wrong™. // @sbi
 
Assuming your class has public non-assignable members, there's no harm that can be done from the outside, right?
 
define "harm"
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, I have seen that, added a comment, and upvoted it. It doesn't really have much more content than the one deleted´, though, some of it's, 7*10 I find confusing, rather than enlightening, and it's missing a link to a full-blown resource.
 
@DeadMG Something that the class author didn't want the user to do. Or something that could be easily done unintentionally, which will cause crash or misbehaviour. More or less. (I'm not talking about violating the access on purpose)
 
well, I don't see the difference between, say, a const public member and a const& getter, say.
 
10:05 AM
I see. A const data member is nasty.
 
My only concern was about the members that can't be const, i.e. are not initialized in ctors.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes You'd have to rally against a 90+ and a 70+ answer. You will have my upvote (assuming you don't screw up badly), and probably that of a dozen more regulars here. That will make your answer drown at the 5th or 6th position. It'll be very hard to get any serious attention from there.
 
@sbi And you want to get attention with an answer that starts at -1?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes He's got the point, @sbi.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, I don't. I just consider it unfair that an answer gets deleted by a mod even though it says the right things, if a little harsh.
 
10:07 AM
We should create community answer, if something like this is possible. That would certainly make it easier to push it to the top.
 
sbi
I am all for writing a good answer and getting this to the top position. I just doubt it's worth trying.
@BartekBanachewicz I suppose you've never tried co-authoring a good text? That's is very hard.
OTOH, it might even be better to drown that stream of stupid answers in a dozen good ones.
 
@sbi There is a lot of people with tons of rep. I mean, if I saw an answer co-edited by not one 50k+, but a few, it would really get my attention.
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Ah, so you really never tried.
 
@sbi Not a good, long, public text, no.
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz As a student, I have co-authored quite a few press releases and such papers. It's a major PITA even when you are sitting right next to each other and can discuss spontaneously in your native language. Sooner or later everyone learns that it is way better to criticize others than to cooperate with them.
 
10:13 AM
@sbi Duh. Ok. Aren't there any ready-made papers by some authority about the accessors?
 
Hey if I have a namespace with a simple < operator defined like this:
template<typename T> operator(T rhs, T lhs){return rhs.start<lhs.start;}
How can I make sure that the comparison of rhs.start and lhs.start doesn't call this same overload unless rhs.start and lhs.start are also classes defined in this namespace
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, like the one I linked to in my comment to the question.
OK, I have tons to do today (starting with applying for my last vacation in this company), so I'd better get going now. If I find the time this afternoon, I might write an answer to that question. Meanwhile, everybody please feel free to write your own. (I suspect @R.Martinho is so quiet because he's already working on one.)
 
@sbi you off to yet another job?
 
sbi
@thecoshman Huh?
 
10:15 AM
"applying for your last vacation"
that would imply you are leaving, or they are breaking the law :P
 
Ell
oh "last vacation"
 
0o
 
Ell
are you interpreting that as a euphemism?
 
no... I interpreting it as him saying he shall never take another vacation with this company, for he shall be with a new one
or can your old employers give you holidays in Germany?
 
@thecoshman Maybe they will put him in the cage or something for the rest of his days.
 
10:18 AM
@BartekBanachewicz maybe...
 
sbi
Jul 11 at 11:10, by sbi
> Well, that went smooth. Beginning in October I'll have a new job, and my old boss just offered me to return if it shouldn't work out. Phew. — sbi
 
Xeo
Ah, screw you Xing, you don't need to load the search results -.-
 
sbi
Jul 16 at 23:11, by sbi
@TonyTheLion Ah. Soon I'll start a new job, too. And I'll have 7 weeks of vacation per year, then.
 
Well, it's actually one of my dreams, to be locked in such a "cage". On a tropical island (or polar station, doesn't matter), with a skilled team of artists, designers, etc., given only monthly-dropped food crates, with total isolation from all distractions.
Then I would come up with a game that would rock that world.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz That won't work out as smoothly as you think
 
10:21 AM
@sbi oh, I thought you had already started this new job :P
 
Xeo
You need to come up with a game before gathering the team
 
sbi
@thecoshman "Beginning in October..."
 
@Xeo Do you really need to break my dream? :'(
 
@sbi poor perception of time
 
Xeo
Also, isolation from all distractions means isolation from enjoyable stuff too, and you'll just break down from the work through that
 
10:21 AM
@Xeo nah, ideas are for loosers
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Right, let's just start and see where we get
 
sbi
And did I mention I need to do stuff? Off.
 
Xeo
hf
 
@Xeo It works with teams that already made something. They can just sit and be creative.
Of course, it requires a hell of experience.
Did you read, by chance, The Valve handbook for newcomers?
 
Xeo
nope
 
10:24 AM
It's funny enough itself, yet still there are many invaluable ideas there. Good lecture, imho.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Not loading for me, screw low bandwidth here :s
 
Oh dark Lord, the attempts to push Xeo into game development are going quite well - proceed, my trusty minion, and one day, we shall rule the galaxy!
 
Xeo
Err...
 
that was supposed to be a joke, really
 
Xeo
I'm a certified game programmer, no need to "push" me "into game development", that's where I want to be anyways
:P
 
10:28 AM
@Xeo "certified" - you got it framed on the wall or something? ^^
 
Xeo
I got a certificate from the Games Academy Berlin :D
 
Nice. There's a Game Academy in Poland, too. I was thinking about it a while ago... Duh, reality.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Whatever you have in Poland, it's not the official Games Academy AFAIK, as the only other branch is in Frankfurt / Main in Germany
Oh, and that failed thingy in Canada I think
 
This is actually cool stuff: 100 bugs in Open Source C/C++ projects
 
@Xeo Oh, I meant it's an uni when you can actually get a Game Dev/Dsgn degree.
 
10:32 AM
@Xeo Erm. There's hardly a 'the official' anywhere in education. A university in Kampala is going to be hard to compare to one in Minsk
 
@sehe Not really. I viewed the first few bugs and they all sum up as "C is a horrifically unsafe language and everyone sane should migrate away immediately".
 
@DeadMG The puppy again with his superficial judgements. Meh
As if I can't see that. Makes it no less cool in any way, shape or form
 
well, it kinda does... I mean, you can see exactly the same kind of bug every single day on SO, and many of them are (usually incorrectly) tagged C++
 
@DeadMG Isn't this statement true?
 
10:38 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Well, it is true. It's just not news, nor cool. Infact, it's quite uncool that there's still so much C crap out there, both being used and written.
 
Has anyone here actually used PVS-Studio?
(related to the article posted by @sehe)
 
@DeadMG I wish someday I will just be able to say "C is crap" and no one will try to argue.
 
it's not so much that C is crap, as that C is old and outdated and there are a lot better tools available
take ye old computers, they where awesome at the time, but we laugh at their puny Mhz now
just imagine that language we would have, if we where to look at C++ as some shit archaic language that no one in their right mind would use
 
10:54 AM
> boring, sim game combined with sim game, set in government.
New direction for Kyro.
 
> happy, trivia game, set in jail
 
@sehe 90% is because of C with Classes-style and pointer arithmetic.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's the trivia, who was sentenced for what? :)
 
> visual, raunchy, calm, rhythm game combined with rhythm game, set in jail.
 
‎"This device will determine what you will be working at for the next 5 years."
 
Xeo
10:57 AM
@CatPlusPlus Filtered because of "Category of Games" -.-
 
@DeadMG I wonder what that might be.
> surgical, wonderful, beautiful, hack n slash combined with board game, set in Australia.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Hack n slash board game.. sounds interesting
 
@RadekSlupik meh. I'm not saying you need it. I'm saying the analysis is cool.
 
SO should definitely make one of those
 
@sbi I not content with what came out, but I need to do some work now. stackoverflow.com/a/12108025/46642
 
sbi
11:07 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I knew it.
 
Xeo
> not worse that a
 
sbi
Also, Foo's data fields aren't accessible. struct?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How does adding a check break LSP?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you're forgetting you can set breakpoints...
 
@BartekBanachewicz If the base class can handle everything, so should the derived classes.
@LuchianGrigore Buy a bigger gun better debugger. That's a feature to put in a debugger, not my code.
 
11:12 AM
There's no better debugger than MSVS
 
printf
 
For setters you can set memory breakpoints
but for getters...
 
@LuchianGrigore flowers, calm music and butterflies for me Finally someone agreed with me.
 
@LuchianGrigore File a feature request on Connect!
 
@LuchianGrigore Regular breakpoints?
 
11:13 AM
@sbi Well, the question has no language tag, so that can be C# or Java code :P
 
@StackedCrooked a?
 
sbi
7 messages moved to bin
Wipes dust off his hands.
 
Xeo
heh, the bonobo's not in the mood to play today
 
@sbi Everyone with their nick like that can delete posts, right?
 
Constructing a std::function with a user-defined function object which has member variables seems to lead to UB.
 
Xeo
11:17 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Somebody with their nick like this is a room owner, so yes
 
@StackedCrooked Why would you want to put fields into function object?
 
@StackedCrooked Shouldn't.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Depends on the member variables
@BartekBanachewicz stateful functors?
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's a closure.
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, I think owners' names are printed in italic.
 
11:18 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes accept & upvote :P (or even better, you can haz this shiny stahr)
@StackedCrooked Well, can you give an example? After I understood what it's for, it seems very interesting
 
It was in production-code base. I'm currently trying to make a self-contained example.
 
Xeo
/me is guessing for Rule of XXX violations
 
Rule of porn?
 
Xeo
Yep, not enough hidden porn links through http labels
 
Also, for all those haters :P, I just posted a comment swaying someone away from doing unnecessary TMP: stackoverflow.com/questions/12108390/…
 
11:23 AM
It seems to work fine. Was probably a bug in my code.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked UB is usually invoked by bugs :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What? Heresy!
 
I stored a pointer in the functor. Due to another bug in my code this pointer expired too soon.
 
Unnecessary TMP is what C++ life is all about!
 
That getter/setter question is full of so terrible answers.
C++
 
11:26 AM
C | | ?
 
@CatPlusPlus how2do?
 
---C++---
 
obviously...
 
Hmm... c++ ... ooooohhhh... shiny.
 
@jalf What's obvious about that if you don't know the code? :D
 
11:28 AM
@StackedCrooked absolutely nothing
 
Ah, I forgot to turn on my sarcasm detector.
 
:)
 
@StackedCrooked It's so freaking cool.
 
You think so?
I only recently started to use functors. Funny, because we now have lambda. I guess I'm being late to the party again.
 
sbi
@rhalbersma: I wouldn't want to close this as a dupe. The other one is from 1011, and constexpr was far less widely available back then than it is now. This could produce answers very different from the old one. — sbi 20 secs ago
Please make it visible.
 
11:32 AM
It's a dupe of something else, I'm sure.
 
Your example could be done with std::bind. Functors suck.
 
@CatPlusPlus Actually, I fixed my code by binding to member function. I still don't really understand how the bug happened.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus The example could be done with lambas, std::bind sucks
 
Coincidentally, C++ lambdas suck, too.
 
Xeo
@sbi 1011? Byte encoded year or typo? :P
 
11:34 AM
@CatPlusPlus Right in the childhood
 
@sbi Actually, constexpr doesn't help at all here.
 
sbi
@Xeo Brainfart. Thx, fixed.
 
C++ lambdas obviously suck comparing to C# lambdas
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes That, too, would be good to learn through an answer.
 
Xeo
@Abyx If we get polymorphic lambdas and auto return type deduction, they'll be superiour
 
11:35 AM
@Xeo in 2022
or maybe later
 
@Xeo They won't.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why not?
 
C# lambdas are already polymorphic.
 
Xeo
@Abyx 2017
 
@Abyx The point is, in 2022 C++ will have these as a natively compiled language. C# or other managed languages will still stay crappy managed.
 
11:36 AM
And they can be expression trees.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but we can specify how we want access to the lambda context :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes Okay, can't argue against that
 
@Xeo That's not particularly superior. The only places in the language where that routinely mattered were fixed with a breaking change.
 
Xeo
?
 
You could often make a lambda closed over a loop variable, and that would be nasty because lambdas close by reference. for(int i = 0; i < 100; ++i) { list.Add(() => i); } used to create 100 instances of the same lambda (i.e. they all would return 100). Now it creates 100 lambdas that return values from 0 to 99, as was clearly intended. You can get the old behaviour (extremely rare) by declaring the variable out of the loop.
Everywhere else it's rarely a problem (remember, reference semantics are all over the place in C#)
 
() => i is a lambda?
 
11:42 AM
Yes.
 
Equivalent to [i] { return i; } ?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes So they went out of their way and capture by value on every loop run, only inside loops?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Or is that C#?
 
@StackedCrooked C#.
 
@StackedCrooked [&i], but yeah
 
11:44 AM
Ah, phew. I thought I was missing something.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Inside loops, as far as I understand. Outside would be [&i]{ return i; }
 
all C# lambdas are implicitly [&]
 
Xeo
@jalf We just discussed that this wasn't the case inside the loop
 
@Xeo They changed the scope of the loop variable. I don't remember all the details. There's an article from Eric Lippert about it.
@Xeo It still is.
 
Xeo
11:44 AM
oh
ok
 
@Xeo that's different. That's the loop creating a new variable for each iteration
the lambda still captures that variable by reference
it just captures a different variable by reference each time :)
 
Xeo
@jalf Okay, that's a rather strange solution
 
It's the cleanest one, IMO.
 
Xeo
Sure, but it's strange nevertheless
 
11:45 AM
it can be surprising, but I think it makes sense when you think about it
 
I find C++'s lambdas more explicit style more elegant
 
I don't. It's clearly necessary in C++, but in most other languages, there's no point in making it explicit
 
@BartekBanachewicz especially for [&](some::long::ClassName& a, other::Name& b){...}
 
@Abyx the elegance is staggering ;)
 
11:49 AM
It's breath-taking.
 
No misunderstandings.
 
iOS development process is so mindfuckingly not obvious.
Apple the king of usability.
 
:)
 
Ell
hi guys
 
Not the king of developability.
 
11:58 AM
@CatPlusPlus If you create your own language (!), base it on C (!!), and then force it to be "objective" (!!!), there's no one to blame but yourself. scumbag apple.
 
Apple didn't invent obj-C
 
It came from NextStep, right?
 
Did they actually invent anything?
 
And really, obj-C is the least problem in iOS development. I think @CatPlusPlus is referring to the certificate/provisioning dance to even get code running on the device
 
@BartekBanachewicz Mac.
 
11:59 AM
@BartekBanachewicz the iphone
 
That's why they have all the NSString things.
 
NeXT was Jobs' company, too.
 
@jalf How's that an invention, not just improvement?
 
NextStep String
 
@BartekBanachewicz have you looked at what smartphones looked like before then?
 
12:00 PM
@StackedCrooked They invented their own brand of computers?
 
@jalf Have you looked at palmtops, maybe?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Who would have thought? :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have, yes
 
Well, Mac was different than PC at the beginning.
 
There's a lot of hype and, well, mythology around Apple, but it's silly to pretend that they've never come up with interesting stuff
 
12:01 PM
I didn't say that.
I said they didn't actually invent something new. They improved existing designs.
 
Now it's just PC with EFI and pants-on-head retarded operating system.
2
 
Move to Intel was a step forward imo.
 
Sure, if you define the word "invent" to fit your conclusion
 
Though they still didn't invent Obj-C, I think.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no. Brad Cox and Tom Love did.
 
12:02 PM
But then we could argue that no one has invented anything since the stone age
It's all jsut been improvements over existing designs
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the string class can be specified with a compiler flag, IIRC.
 
They invented the usable smartphone. It wasn't an incremental improvement, because Microsoft et al had spent the last decade or so doing incremental improvements on smartphones, and the were still shit
 
@RadekSlupik Now say it's fine design.
 
> Objective-C was created primarily by Brad Cox and Tom Love in the early 1980s at their company Stepstone. Both had been introduced to Smalltalk while at ITT Corporation's Programming Technology Center in 1981. The earliest work on Objective-C traces back to around that time.
 
@jalf "Me invents wheel. Me only inventers."
 
12:03 PM
@CatPlusPlus huh?
 
Objective-C is about as old as I am.
 
Anyway, a coworker remarked that obj-C code looked like a lot like the output from diff :)
 
@jalf Palms were good.
 
@RadekSlupik So? NextStep is still the reason they have that weird prefix.
@jalf lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz ....
 
12:04 PM
You seem to love and defend the Failure-C.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh I thought you were referring to its name being built-in.
 
Lol renaming classes via compiler switches.
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't particularly love it, but working with it is fine for me.
 
@jalf SD card slot, normal headphone jack, large screen. They were good.
I miss my Tungsten T3.
 
@BartekBanachewicz no, they had good hardware
that's different
 
12:05 PM
> Method 'run' is too complex to analyze by data flow algorithm
Hmm, I guess I should break that up.
 
You also want to sleep with a girl instead of sleeping with her, so there's that.
 
Please don't tell me that the only reason iphones sold better was because of the apple logo
 
@jalf Don't tell it was insignificant, either.
 
@jalf it's a big factor, you can't deny that. Brans mean a lot to people
 
@jalf That's anti-Apple fanboy denialism.
 
12:06 PM
Don't get me wrong, I have an iPad, and I will prolly buy iPhone in a few weeks.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You treacherous scum!
 
@thecoshman Eh, Apples brand was a lot less powerful when they launched the iphone. They had ipod and... uh...
 
iPhone did push the mobile market into new age.
 
I'm not hating. I am trying to get some facts straight.
 
Though fanboys would buy and defend it even if it didn't.
 
12:07 PM
@BartekBanachewicz The fact, then, is this: Before the iphone, we had phones that could go online, and which no one in their right mind ever used to actually go online. It took the iphone to make the experience smooth enough for people to actually use the smartphone as more than a phone
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There are no tablets on the market right now that could be a match for an iPad. I actually went to shitload of places to test every single Asus, Samsung and other stuff.
@jalf I used my SE k750i to play MUDs and do other stuphs by SSH.
 
I remember when tablets were for drawing shit.
 
@jalf oh sure, they were not that big a brand back then. But they have become associated with line of devices that can just seamlessly work, and for people who are not able/willing to put much effort into there devices, people who just want to use their stuff, that means a lot
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have no idea. I barely use the tablet I have.
 
@CatPlusPlus Surprise! New ones will actually allow that.
 
12:08 PM
Wow.
 
Drawing attention.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes And that puts you in a position to call me treachery scum ^^.
 
Ok, I guess everyone forgot to turn on the sarcasm detectors today.
 
@StackedCrooked I meant like with stylus with a normal size and pressure-sensitive screens.
 
I don't see much use for a tablet. vOv
 
12:09 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yes, and?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, I didn't take it too serious, of course. I just tried to point out that anti-fanboys (I was one of them) aren't much better than fanboys. The truth is in between.
@jalf It was way before iPhone. And you could hardly argue it isn't "more than a phone"
 
I just wish my iPhone screen was a little bigger when using it as an e-reader.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I once used anecdotal evidence that later turned out to be supported by science, so your argument is invalid.
4
 
"I once used", lol @ meta
 
12:12 PM
@CatPlusPlus Do you see much use for anything?
 
@RadekSlupik nah, he's the essence of hate here.
 
You don't seem to know what "hate" means.
 
@BartekBanachewicz He's even worse than the puppy.
 
@CatPlusPlus You meant hate or "hate"?
 
Heh, I just accidentally discovered that Alt-A also selects all text in Firefox on Linux.
Not sure if Firefox or Linux.
 
12:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes this site is kewl, by the way. I am amazed how the SO teaches not only coding, but also being descriptive, correct, and now how to discuss properly.
It's by far one of the best internet communities ever.
 
SA is better.
Who will tell me how to make radio buttons on the right of the label in Android radio group.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes awesome site!
 
Trigraphs have been moaned about here.
 
On occasion
Time and time again
 
12:32 PM
@CatPlusPlus I wouldn't be too surprised if you had to fudge it by having a list of text boxes and then on the right a set of radio buttons with no label.
 
@TonyTheLion oh god, why? :|
 
Because C++ still lives in world with no keyboards.
 
@LuchianGrigore why Google, cause it has answers, duh!
 
obviously for spamming it into the C++ chat room? Anyways, I like the answer, +1 from me. But don't spam again :) — sehe 1 hour ago
ok, sorry. Thank for reply — Stals 1 hour ago
Hmm. He took it well. Were the downs really only revenge?
 
forgot about that one... I removed mine :)
revenge is such a strong word...
 
@StackedCrooked copy ctor and unnecessary pointers?
 
@StackedCrooked the two pointers... or would that count as one problem?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Two errors. No style issues.
No style issues.
Only objective errors.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked 1 - no smart pointers, two unnecessary destructor after that
 
@StackedCrooked Imho automatically generated copy-ctor is an error.
 
12:40 PM
two hard errors that would stop compilation?
 
If not using a smart pointer would make a class incorrect then std::unique_ptr would be incorrect ;)
 
Xeo
I'd probably just link to the robots Rule of Zero article, though
 
@StackedCrooked not exception safe on construction, copying leads to double deletion of pointers
 
@sehe 2/2, congrats :D
 
@Xeo +1 - it has the precise example
 
12:41 PM
I wonder how many people would get that right.
 
@StackedCrooked Isn't creating the new int exception safe anyway? + you didn't give me 1/2 for copying :P
 
@StackedCrooked Out of this room, 40% ? Given eonugh time, maybe 60%?
 
Xeo
@sehe btw, moving does too
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's not safe if new failed on the second one
 
There's no private, so you could just delete or re-assign the pointers from outside.
 
12:42 PM
@Xeo Oops. Good point
 
@sehe on the new bool o.O?
 
well, you could argue that as the class is not instantiated, there is no problem
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, the destructor will not be called if the ctor never finishes from an exception
 
@Xeo I mean, are you suggesting that the new bool can throw?
 
@LuchianGrigore That would be an error in usage, not in the class. The class is not very well designed, if that's what you mean (but it was a sample snippet only)
 
Xeo
12:43 PM
And even if it did, you'd get a delete on b which may contain garbage still
 
I think the most obvious error with that class implementation is that it's actually a struct...
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz sure, out of memory
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, it will leak the int
 
@sehe I know it will leak, hell. I wasn't just sure if simple objects allocations can throw, that's all. I've read The Rule Of 0
 
12:43 PM
There was a blog post about it
 
@BartekBanachewicz Their 404 page is nice: kaggle.com/lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz while(new bool); will eventually throw
 
@LuchianGrigore Oh, just 3 days ago. Is anyone here up to take the challenge, out of curiosity?
 
@StackedCrooked that is strangely elegant
 
@BartekBanachewicz I can write the code if anyone here knows machine learning...
 
12:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz not the least bit interested
 
@sehe Well, working for SE has some benefits... Employees will never be poked with a sharp stick
 
@BartekBanachewicz Huh
 
"aggressively communicative" :))
 
I would argue however, that failing to anticipate an out-of-memory error is not really a big issue since you're fucked in either case. (Speaking as a desktop developer.)
 
12:52 PM
wait... from the sound of it, their data set is containing only questions that are closed, or very few that are not closed
 
@BartekBanachewicz It should be in the Joel Test, really
@StackedCrooked The error is relevant if the members aren't builtin types, i.e. userdefined constructors are involved
 
surely you need to be able to look at good questions as well as bad questions...
 
@Cicada Good question. I've always wondered, but never bothered to find out.
 
@thecoshman dataset with all the questions (...) whether they finally ended up closed or not
@StackedCrooked Are you really reading all these old posts?
 
@BartekBanachewicz well played...
 
12:55 PM
Just accidentally stumbled upon it.
 
oh shit, I gave one tweet @notch, and I have a shit tone of messages :S
 
A shit tone? Is that like a crappy musical chord?
 

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