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12:54 AM
@LucDanton bon c'est fini ces copyright claims
 
j’attends ton chèque à l’adresse habituelle etc.
@PatrickM'Bongo btw the latest balance patch was, well
you know how I’m sometimes surprised that there is this particular anet special touch going on even after all these years
this was not one of those times
 
@rightfold No, you are mostly composed by the air you breathe.
 
Xeo
1:35 AM
@Griwes Dunno, I thought I saw you mention it on Discord
 
> Harcelée de canulars téléphoniques depuis le mois de juillet, victime de détournements sur différents sites internet, la municipalité yvelinoise d'Issou a porté plainte [contre jeuxvideo.com]
> […] chez Protherm isolation, devenu pendant quelques jours « Protherm issoulation ».
 
Can someone explain me why the heck they made this website so complicated that I'm unable to change my login email /:
 
2:26 AM
@Morwenn yes, @T.C. dropped default_order after STL wrote up on reddit how it's going to die: reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/56zkbx/…
 
3:15 AM
@Cubbi Well, technically he wrote it on the MSVC blog post first :)
 
3:25 AM
@Telkitty A third--plus or minus close to a third. They classified anybody and everybody who sent a tweet more than once every (approximately) fifteen minutes as being a bot (even though in the actual study, they fairly openly admit that this is clearly wrong at least part of the time).
 
I'm a bit disappointed that there was no fighting in that last debate.
I thought they were both saving up for it.
 
3:42 AM
> auto groupBy()();
somehow this part of the documentation seems incomplete
or maybe it’s not: assumeSorted!("a.foo < b.foo")(xs).groupBy()
 
Hmm, I'm fond of the idea behind Jupyter. It's nice being able to output images from files and graphing packages directly to the 'terminal'
But it's mostly effective for debugging and demonstrations. I can't imagine the value of images in terminals translating into value for end-users
 
then switch to the browser
D is bonkers what with the mixins, what if I need some runtime thing to perform my sort :|
 
4:09 AM
How did D implement them that they can't use runtime data?
 
@Aaron3468 in the above, notice how the very first argument is a string?
 
Oh wow, evaluating a string? That's not usually a good sign
Can you load new strings at runtime and use reflection/introspection to create new strings?
 
:/
> Many functions in this package are parameterized with a predicate. The predicate may be any suitable callable type (a function, a delegate, a functor, or a lambda), or a compile-time string. - D std.algorithm
You might not be out of luck if you can create lambdas at runtime
 
4:30 AM
I'm not sure I understand why only one context pointer can exist
 
choice in the implementation
 
Ah, just an oversight that means code needs some refactoring then
 
no, it would be new functionality
can’t refactor what’s not already there
 
Fair point. I use terminology incorrectly on occasion
 
ax + ay shuffles to a(x + y), but we really want ax + ay + az or a(x + y + z) anyway
 
4:39 AM
You're correct about refactoring versus improvements. Enabling only two context pointers is a duct-tape solution, so I imagine a (small) stack of context pointers might be necessary.
 
5:14 AM
> 2500 candy corn for a tree, 5000 for a Demon statue, 7500 for a Mausoleum, and 25000 for a disappointing Mad Moon?
25k candy corn is ~160g
 
 
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Ven
6:37 AM
@LucDanton you can 99% of the time use a lambda
 
@Ven But lambdas lead to bugs.
14 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2884849
Iterators are better.
:-)
 
Ven
But yes the historic reason is that compilers were bad at inlining lambdas there
@JerryCoffin there's nothing that doesn't lead to bugs :)
 
@Ven Did you look at the article? (Do you have an opinion on whether it's real or came from scigen?)
 
Ven
@JerryCoffin there's nothing that doesn't lead to bugs :)
That's like saying breathing leads to death because a very large majority of people who died breathed(?) their whole life
@JerryCoffin no, I admit I did not. I mostly saw people on discord mocking it... And mocking the HN comments
 
@Ven Probably just as well (reading it is surely a waste of time).
 
Ven
6:50 AM
Scigen generates "weird" articles, with no logical string to piece the different parts. It appears this article is just bad, which is vastly different: SciGen does it on purpose.
 
@JerryCoffin It looks like the conclusion and testing are somewhat clumsy, but it follows a relatively clear line of reasoning and provides relevant evidence, so I doubt it's automatically generated
It looks like poor science by humans, honestly.
 
Ven
Let's say a bot able to generate an article like that would be vastly more impressive than the article at hand...
3
 
@Ven A bot able to string together a single sentence that looked like it might be real would be more impressive than the article at hand.
 
Bots can already create new sentences reasonably well. What I find most bots have difficulty with is identifying relevance of information, and reasoning using that information.
> "... one data set was deleted by accident." lol
 
7:30 AM
@Mysticial oh, when did you move to the UK?
 
Ven
He optimized the heck out of brexit's x86 code.
 
@Ven yeah the 'bug'/limitation/however you call it was fairly unfortunate
 
Ven
@LucDanton definitely
 
7:56 AM
Samsung Bomb -Note 7 is featured in GTA V
 
Sam
8:15 AM
Good Afternoon peeps
 
user1804599
Hello.
 
Ven
hi @rightfold
 
Sam
@ProblemSlover samsung phones... boring :/
Hello rightfold!
 
Ven
@rightfold have you picked a language yet?
 
8:32 AM
@Ven for what crazy porject now?
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, just noticed you've made ogonek a more ~projecty~ thing
 
user1804599
> While it is certainly not forbidden to broach topics such as age, body size, disability, ethnicity, gender identity and expression, level of experience, nationality, personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation, we do not tolerate speech that attacks a person or group of people on the basis of who they are.
 
user1804599
This should include "political views" explicitly to prevent GH from banning people with the "wrong" views.
 
Ven
@thecoshman @rightfold was looking for a golfing language for some reason
 
@Ven ergh... just use bespoke languages that that compile an empty file down to exactly what you want vOv
 
@PatrickM'Bongo blague à part (et après avoir regardé) c’est encore une vidéo captivante. cc @R.MartinhoFernandes this could be right up your alley
 
user1804599
8:39 AM
@Ven Nein.
 
il a fait une erreur quand il a prononcé 'trompé-je' par contre, c’est /ɛ/ la prononciation usuelle de nos jours et les réformes de 90 permette l’orthographe 'trompè-je' pour mieux refléter ça
 
user1804599
Ugggh
 
user1804599
Chrome on iOS pretends to be Safari.
 
probably has to get iOS to let it do anything :S
 
user1804599
?
 
user1804599
8:44 AM
I mean the user agent string.
 
I know
 
user1804599
@sehe Well, you can immediately see that the prime factors are big :p
 
what are the people of this enloungement doing this lovely day
 
user1804599
Fixing bugs related to shitty user agent strings.
 
Ven
@rightfold it uses webkit underneath
 
user1804599
8:48 AM
Basically, when a new browser is released, it pretends to be all the existing ones, for compatibility with existing websites.
 
user1804599
Our app only works on Chrome, so I have to change the detection every time.
 
user1804599
If you don't use Chrome then the page shows nothing but Chrome installation instructions. :D
 
why do sites do that?
 
user1804599
We do it because maintaining compatibility with more than one browser is a lot of work.
 
afaik more or less every browser supports feature detection... so you can just detect if this browser, what ever it is, is compatible
 
user1804599
8:51 AM
There is no good reason to support multiple browsers.
 
@rightfold so just say "we only support chrome, you can try others, but it might not work and tough luck"
chances are, it'll work just fine
 
user1804599
No. Things will break and phone calls will happen.
 
maybe the odd quirk, but still work fine
@rightfold www.youareabadlet.com ¬_¬
what ever
 
user1804599
If you want to come sit here, answer phone calls (in Dutch dialects), and fix all the non-Chrome browser issues, for free, you're welcome. :)
 
> you can try others, but it might not work and tough luck
 
8:53 AM
rightfold is saying that users don't read
which is true, I'd probably skip the warning and complain too :P
 
user1804599
> you're welcome. :)
 
user1804599
y
 
60 years from now we'll have Call of Duty: Mosul Offensive
 
Ven
@rightfold dogshit product
 
user1804599
9:06 AM
Less dogshit than if we had to support multiple browsers.
 
is your product available for the wide audience or just a particular niche?
because if it's the latter and you have no serious competition I can see pushing limits like that being ok
 
user1804599
@BogdanAlexandru fewer than 1000 users :p
 
haskell reddit getting trolled by "fagballs" and not seeing it reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/57v4rv/…
 
user1804599
hahahahaha C++
 
user1804599
@Ven found a nice Ven diagram:
 
user1804599
9:18 AM
 
@rightfold just saw that :P
v good
 
user1804599
Where?
 
twitter, I think gribes had retweeted it
 
Ven
@rightfold Venned
@BogdanAlexandru they're not being very mean tho
even ekmett admitting to writing C++ :P. /cc @rightfold
 
@rightfold I thought you were already on twatter?
 
Ven
9:33 AM
@thecoshman indeed
 
user6845426
I'm looking at developing using C++ and using OpenCv, what IDE's do you guys use? I'm currently on Eclipse
 
Ven
@F.Bar there are no good C++ IDEs, because C++ is bad
 
@F.Bar use Linux
 
@F.Bar vim
 
user6845426
@thecoshman is Linux more beneficial?
 
9:37 AM
is eclipse working ok for you?
 
user1804599
@thecoshman I am.
 
user6845426
I've been using eclipse for development in java... i'm just starting out with c++
 
user1804599
@Ven use Rust
 
user1804599
C++ is a lot more rusty than Rust.
 
Rust is bad though.
 
user1804599
9:38 AM
Rust is very nice. What is bad about it?
 
@F.Bar from what I recall, Eclipse sucks for C++
Rust is not as good as it started out being
 
@rightfold Rust.
 
How's Wide progressing? @Puppy
 
Ven
@rightfold don't tell me
 
I used Visual Studio back when I was writing C++ it worked well
 
user6845426
9:39 AM
Yeah I've heard eclipse is bad
 
ergh... VS sucks too
 
user1804599
Use GNU Emacs.
 
user6845426
Cant get VS (using Mac) for some stupid reason.
 
@rightfold That won't get him an editor though.
 
Ven
Use spacemacs!
 
9:40 AM
@rightfold and I thought you already follwed me....
 
Ven
@Griwes ^ that gives an editor
 
user1804599
@thecoshman If I followed someone, but not anymore, then that's probably because they tweet about politics.
 
user6845426
Can I also use openCV with spacemacs?
 
user1804599
Why would a library require a certain editor?
 
user6845426
woops
 
user1804599
9:41 AM
OpenCV is a library.
 
user1804599
It doesn't matter which text editor you use to write the code that uses that library.
 
user6845426
Ok thanks for your help :)
 
user6845426
I'm looking at building character recognition software
 
Ven
:33599141 You're not concerned.
You're free to use whatever badness you like
 
@rightfold lol
 
user1804599
9:43 AM
I don't want my timeline to fill up with shitty opinions about problems I don't worry about.
 
user1804599
And Twitter doesn't support filtering tweets by topic.
 
user1804599
So there is no choice but to unfollow people.
 
that's the best way to use twitter, follow a small selection of topics you're interested in
 
user1804599
You can't follow topics.
 
user1804599
You can only follow users.
 
user1804599
9:45 AM
That's the major issue with Twitter.
 
user1804599
Many users want to tweet about several topics, whilst I am only interested in reading one topic.
 
depends on the users, following, say NASA
is following a topic really
 
@rightfold you can follow tags... can't you?
 
user1804599
Many interesting tweets are not tagged.
 
this is what I follow
mostly topics yea
 
9:46 AM
@BogdanAlexandru well done on providing a single counter example to a generalisation
 
user1804599
I follow these goodlets: twitter.com/rightfold/following
 
@thecoshman it's not a counter example, some users aren't "users" as in people
some users are organizations/companies/etc using twitter as a news feed
I'm reluctant to follow people because yea like rf said
they end up spamming their personal stuff invariably
and I'm not very interested in that so I just use twitter as a news feed for the topics I care about
regular user ppl tend to only retweet important news anyway
 
@BogdanAlexandru that's still a 'user'
 
yep I called them users too
"some users aren't 'users' as in people; some users are organizations/companies/etc using twitter as a news feed"
 
@thecoshman I've heard good things about CLion.
 
9:56 AM
I checked it out too now but it's not free :(
so likely not an option for anyone who just wants to try out C++
 
@fredoverflow ergh, canny be that good
 
@BogdanAlexandru Visual Studio Community is free.
 
but is VS
 
@fredoverflow I know I mentioned it above
(we were answering @F.Bar's question)
 
@BogdanAlexandru ah sorry
 
10:00 AM
he uses OS X tho so I'm wondering why he's not using Xcode
it's the obvious choice for the go-to C++ IDE
on a mac
 
ewww Xcode
Guys, I gave you the answer a while back. Just use vim.
 
@BogdanAlexandru inb4 goto considered harmful
@Griwes Notepad++
 
@Griwes Sublime Text 3
 
vim
 
10:01 AM
vim
 
Sublime Text 3
 
vim
 
Sublime Text 3
 
10:03 AM
What's the difference between ST3 and Sublime Text 3?
 
ST is an acronym for Sublime Text
 
One's an acronym and shorthand of the other
 
Ven
@BogdanAlexandru no no no =[
 
@fredoverflow they are different so that you can send "ST3" twice in a row and chat doesn't merge the messages
 
@fredoverflow ST3 appeals more to gamists
 
10:09 AM
@sehe What the fuck are gamists
 
:)
 
@набиячлэвэли Sounds like a collective term for monogamists and polygamists.
(Not very useful, I grant you that.)
 
Sam
vim
 
user6845426
10:17 AM
dreamweaver.
 
Sam
I'm using vim since last 8 years and I never even herd of it even hanging. And in office, there is VS since last 4 months and it has crashed for at least 15 times in front of my eyes
in just 4 months
So... vim
 
Well, that's VS for you
Sublime Text 3
 
user6845426
I think I'm going with Eclipse
 
Sam
still vim
 
@F.Bar What are you writing, Java?
 
Sam
10:19 AM
@F.Bar ohh please don't
 
user6845426
I've been writing in Java, but I want to man up and start learning C++ :)
 
@набиячлэвэли <3
We are not using trunk for trunk...
 
Ven
@F.Bar "man up"?
 
Ell
10:37 AM
@Griwes also known as oneormoregamists
 
Ergh... got to stop engaging before I hurt some delicate flowers at work
 
@fredoverflow That reminds me I haven't seen Martin James here in a while.
 
@F.Bar hey
since you're just starting out
you won't be capable of using any advanced IDE feature anyway and be productive
you'll just use Eclipse as a text editor with autocomplete and an embedded Run My App button
so you won't have trouble :P
start switching IDEs when Eclipse legitimately limits you
 
10:55 AM
i.e. when you can say something like "I want X and this other IDE has X so I switch to it"
 
I think youareabadlet needs an amazing glitter mode with all fancy shit and stuff...
 
Many C++ guys complain that they hate Java. It's just hard to me to find any reason to hate these languages. both are great for specific purpose.
 
user6845426
Thanks @BogdanAlexandru :)
 
user1804599
11:27 AM
First write it in Rust, then you know if you got the lifetimes right, then translate 1:1 to C++.
5
 
user1804599
:F :F :F
 
12:44 PM
Eclipse is even bad for Java
it's a terrible terrible mistake of an IDE
 
Ven
Java is a mistake as well. :P
 
The list of features it is best for is NPE
Java itself is not that bad... I mean, it's fucking pita to work with, but at least you can, and at least there are other languages on the JVM that you could use
JS is like the worst. You have basically no choice, you use JS or don't do web dev
Which frankly is fine with me, fuck web dev
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz would like to have a word with you. :P
 
ergh... I hate the amount of times I do things a sensible way, like call a file of just javascript code foo.js to find out that actually, the convention that you almost always have to use is to call it fooJS.jsp
 
@Morwenn Hmm.
 
Ven
1:00 PM
@thecoshman the blame for that is on JSP
 
11 hours ago, by Cubbi
@Morwenn yes, @T.C. dropped default_order after STL wrote up on reddit how it's going to die: https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/56zkbx/c1417_features_and_stl_fixes_in_vs_‌​15_preview_5/d8npapy
 
@Ven no
there is no excuse for using the wrong extension
 
Jesus.
@Morwenn Ugh the gcc name mangling visible there is deeply broken.
How the fuck did they screw it up that badly.
 
Ven
@Griwes by badn... virtue of being GCC
 
"Hoe the fuck did they screw it up that badly" is a question I ask myself everyday at work
 
1:10 PM
Nobody at your work could've possibly screwed up as much as this name mangling bullshit.
 
oh well of course that fucking fuckity fuck is included directly as plain text
 
Jesus.
 
Ven
@thecoshman I mean it's on Java's end, not a JS fault
 
@Ven yeah, it's shiting crap
 
> Hoe
 
Sam
1:20 PM
ha ha :D
 
user1804599
Apparently people are OK with writing ENTIRE complex web applications in continuation passing style, a form for intermediate representation.
 
user1804599
But, holy shit, don't use semicolons and a period, because my god THAT'S HARD.
 
user1804599
This is Au.
 
Ven
@cmeik idea: programming language that uses the Oxford comma.
:star:
 
1:29 PM
@rightfold don't do that
 
@thecoshman why so NaCl-y
 
that joke works like a Lballon
 
user1804599
@thecoshman You're so grumpy, did you just eat C6H8O7? HeHe.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
1:37 PM
@ThePhD
 
Ven
Um, I don't think... uh... ok. https://t.co/oWR1tpxEBO
what the heck
I fucking hate you, twitter, for being so dogshit at history
 
user1804599
@Ven I don't get it
 
@Ven lol, shits talking shit about shit they know shit about
 
Ven
@rightfold They don't either.
Do people on windows actually use stdafx?
 
1:58 PM
@Ven some do.
 
@LucDanton why did they BUFF RANGER
@LucDanton J'ai toujours prononcé ça comme lui, me trompé-je ?
:noel:
 
user1804599
@Ven What about it?
 
user1804599
2:13 PM
I'm so confused.
 
user1804599
Please tell me why you are sending it to me.
 
Ven
@rightfold you retweeted something wrong
 
user1804599
I don't recall.
 
Ven
aubot that topic
 
user1804599
Please link to the tweet so I can delete it.
 
user1804599
2:14 PM
Thanks.
 
Ven
Always ready to be pedantic!
 
user1804599
@Ven Sorry, I can't read that.
 
Ven
:P
 
Ven
that's a chrome extension to the standard
 
2:31 PM
new teslas come in with all the hardware that's needed for self-drive tesla.com/en_GB/videos/…
not all features are enabled in the software yet but the hardware being there makes self driving addable via software updates
 
Ven
@BogdanAlexandru lol @ shadow computer
 
Ven
@BogdanAlexandru when you're driving manually, the tesla software will be running besides, to show it would've prevented the accident. They're calling it "shadow mode"
 
yes so it gathers data while you drive
 
Ven
ofcourse
that's a given for any piece of software you use
 
2:35 PM
more so for this software
which relies on training
to actually do anything
(neural net)
 
This has been suck a terrible week. I dislike working on UI enough as it is, and this is such a terrible pile of shite it's not even funny
 
2:51 PM
did you know 4G is not the same as LTE digitaltrends.com/mobile/4g-vs-lte
one difference is that 4G dictates a minimum speed
LTE doesn't
so carriers can still give you LTE but limit you at 3G speeds
but marketing makes it look like 4G === LTE specifically for this reason
 
ergh, it's fuzzy
LTE is sort of known as 3.9G
it was supposed to be a sort of base technology that could improved over time with last drastic changes than we saw with the likes of GSM, HPRSA, EDGE etc.
Hence the name, Long Term Evolution
 
user1804599
@Ven implementation-defined, therefore retarded
 
Ven
@rightfold hah.
That's funny coming from someone who uses dozens of GHC extensions ;-).
[and only develops for chrome]
 
Ven
old.
the sed implementation of brainfuck that compiles to x86 is much more impressive. :P
 
3:21 PM
strange... I swap from fold to foldRight and suddenly I get a type error
@rightfold like most of JS
 
@Ven JS Date is still shit.
 
I had to go to the dentist and it was horrible this time not like before :(
2 anesthesics and still pain
the cavity was large and couldn't finish the tooth completely because the gum started bleeding have to go agian
loooool sometimes I feel like this images-ext-1.discordapp.net/…
10
 
Today at work: closing heaps of bug reports that were all due to the fact that some signals weren't properly disconnected.
 
@Borgleader
It is holiday here for 2 weeks, and this is homework — Danny 19 hours ago
 
Ven
@Morwenn beep boop
 
3:50 PM
@thecoshman I was referring to Seattle and Chicago.
 
@Mysticial bwahahaha at least they're honest
 
Currently enjoying the giddy highs of GDD, Guess Driven Development
 
@BogdanAlexandru ...at least post a sensible link: robbomb.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tasks.gif
 
I posted the link I found on a forum but thanks for the better link
 
4:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, so that's what you were tweeting about. That code is garbage. Every version of anything they proposed is total garbage.
 
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