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12:00 AM
it's odd it doesn't work eh
 
did Sphinx invent that, then it went into rST, then Sphinx kept a different impl?
while having .. code-block:: all the while
I’m so confused
 
sphinx code blocks were created in 2007
so they predate the docutils one by a long time
 
I can’t find anything on the tracker, oh well. I’ll leave it at that
the inside story looks nasty :(
 
nice find
 
> and to only support .. code:: unofficially with no highlighting, as we do at the moment.
and there was a later merge to keep the unofficial support, but with highlighting
anyhoo thanks for the help, I’m not sure how I would ever have noticed that there are two directives without you
 
12:45 AM
@Rapptz Wao. You're a way higher level than me.
 
flex
 
@Rapptz gdi, am i the only one who cant get skins? i lvled like 5 times so far and all i got was poses/sprays :(
I want the Reaper skin so fucking bad
 
I want the reaper skin badly too
witch mercy too
 
Oh yes
witch mercy
 
also reaper highlight intro
 
12:47 AM
havent seen it
 
why would you guys want anything other than mei
mei is bae
 
this intro + pumpkin reaper = muh dick
 
O M G
that is so sickkkkk
 
doesn't come with song though
 
12:49 AM
lmao yeah
if only it did
would be 10x cooler
but it's still the coolest highlight intro reaper has and I want it so bad
 
@Borgleader Oh right, you play OW too.
I should play with you two sometime.
... Then again, I'm like. Level 10. :<
 
it's such a good combo
 
Its missing some music, I was down with the idea that reaper has a boombox in his coffin
 
the skin makes reaper less of an edgelord
 
12:51 AM
3edgy5me
 
@ThePhD I'm not so high, lvl 34-35 or so
 
I am level 193 kek
 
holy shit what
 
@Borgleader cmonBruh
that means you played this game barely
like 20 hours max
 
I play w/ my friend a lot
esp during loot box grind: the events
 
12:54 AM
@Borgleader We should play together sometime!
I mostly open overwatch and then pine away as I want to play but work on other stuff. :<
 
@ThePhD :D
 
had this happen yesterday kek
 
Lmao
Double meatloaf.
 
Gah. Getting started with that horrible contraption that is YAML. Found 3 half-working online yaml intepreters to test how anchors and dictionary merging should work.
 
I played a game the other day. 5 torbs, 1 mercy
 
12:55 AM
That actually sounds like a good dinner TBH.
 
Finally found one that probably does what it is supposed to do (as opposed to the invalid shit that others produce).
 
We almost got rekt hard, then we pulled the amazingest of comebacks
 
Broke it by accidentally trying key :*self. Now the site is down
 
Poor sehe :(
 
"Clone with git" I don't want to clone with git, I want it to save all of my changes to Git and work out of git.
 
12:56 AM
@sehe isn't it bedtime for the polarbear
 
in comp mode there's a 1 hero limit
I wish there was a Quick Play-like mode w/ that limit
I hate playing against cheese
 
@orlp huh. that would be a first
 
@sehe how come?
 
@Rapptz That immediately sounds like something that should be implemented everywhere.
 
@ThePhD nah
 
12:57 AM
@orlp I don't usually sleep early. Neither do you, I think
 
in public games it's fun to stack heroes
and mess around
 
@ThePhD it'd make a lot of the casual peeps angry cause they like cheesing/stacking
so it's the compromise
I think it's okay until you get certain annoying cheese
like 5x junkrat in a junkrat friendly map like Nepal
 
i hate junkrat, i think his aoe is too big
 
His damage is humongous.
Two explosions and I can be dead on one of those squishy heroes.
 
120 damage per lol
most heroes have 150-200 hp
 
1:06 AM
A good Tracer is annoying as fuck too.
I played against one this weekend. jeeez
 
I main tracer
I have 66% winrate lol
oh down to 63% now :(
 
1:27 AM
@sehe A programmer who goes to sleep before midnight probably just worked through the night before.
 
1:43 AM
@JerryCoffin as charged
 
I've got a new nazi room mate in the room next to me
complains that I talk on skype at 11 pm saturday evening
 
that's weird
(depending on how loud you are :))
 
2:13 AM
really not loud
just talking normally
I want a kitty :(
 
3:04 AM
Exploiting vulnerabilities 2006 versus 2016. Lots of mitigation had been put in places over the past 10 years.… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/789072206554771456
 
 
2 hours later…
5:17 AM
yoooo
 
 
1 hour later…
6:42 AM
sup guise
 
Ven
7:16 AM
Supe
 
7:30 AM
I fell on flat land in the park, so weird
 
@JerryCoffin what do you do for a job?
I never realised you were in the telcoms area
@ThePhD it depends how you want to declare an array, [T] T[] or T[]
 
Ven
@ThePhD [] ([] int) :P
 
yo boys
long time no see
 
Ven
hi
Beautiful.
 
7:54 AM
yoooo
 
Ven
hi
 
what is up
 
@Ven next up "Man sentenced to life for eating his pizzas wife"
 
Man sentenced to wife
 
8:08 AM
 
:S so I've got nasty scank on my trousers... and not the secy kind
 
for fuck sake I cannot get this stoopid minted to work
 
Ven
@rit That's where we need to start focusing our attention, imo. Emacs as a Chrome app would be a dream come true.
 
¬_¬ strange... if I reverse my list and do a forEach, I can get this to work how I want... but foldRight doesn't work...
 
8:19 AM
@thecoshman what happens if you reverse the list twice, then do a left fold
 
Ven
@thecoshman try .rightfold
 
@LucDanton ¬_¬ let's find out
 
Ven
It might not work, but the constant stream of nonsense might entertain you for a while.
 
> ELVM can compile itself into various targets. So I added a new 'Vim script' backend […]
we’re fucked as a species aren’t we?
 
Ven
why wouldn't you want to compile C to VimScript
oh wait
I see it now.
 
user1804599
8:25 AM
@Ven lol chrome os
 
@Ven nah, I want an actual answer, not just snark :P
I jest ofc
 
Ven
@thecoshman what are you trying to do btw?
 
user1804599
String -> a -> a This function returns the second argument, ignoring the first.
 
user1804599
Parametricity is love. Parametricity is life.
 
Ven
pretty #old
 
8:33 AM
@PatrickM'Bongo k I think I managed to boil down the spirit of the balance patch at least when it comes to Mesmer: Time Warp is now the least useful tool for granting quickness. reportedly in a raid settings it’s just not very useful at all
 
@Ven What is even that.
 
Ven
@ThePhD the best /cc @rightfold
read array (array int)
 
@caps You mean like if constexpr (some_condition && some_condition_thats_ill_formed_unless_some_condition_is_true)?
 
ah, kotlin has reverse() and reversed(), the first mutates the container, whilst the second returns a reversed version
 
That's almost like python
With xstuff and stuff
 
user1804599
8:51 AM
 
user1804599
this job
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
What a horrible, horrible job.
 
that guy has a 3x4 monitor setup
 
crazy isn't it
 
8:56 AM
must be a strong mount
 
that's... a lot of screens
 
user1804599
In Rust you can't mutate a hash table that you're looping through, because that would mutably borrow the hash table while it is already borrowed (by the loop).
 
user1804599
 
thanks, now I'm hungry
 
user1804599
yay
 
user1804599
9:09 AM
let's eat
 
user1804599
9:19 AM
Girugamesh is great
 
Ven
@rightfold In rust you can't push the length of a vector to a vector (without a temporary variable), because that'd be a double-borrow.
 
user1804599
oh they disbanded
 
lol just read that
 
user1804599
@Ven Nice. :)
 
Ven
no bad
 
9:21 AM
the band disbanded so it's not a band anymore
 
user1804599
No, it reflects the evaluation order.
 
c’est compliqué la vente en ligne entre particuliers quand même
 
user1804599
If arguments were evaluated before the receiver then you could.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked temporal logic
 
user1804599
I am so hungry.
 
user1804599
9:27 AM
give food
 
user1804599
 
9:54 AM
mm chips
 
int num1 = 10;
num1 = num1--; // this is seems to give different people different results. it's clearly supposed to be 9, but some get 10.
 
ergh... stop being a badlet
 
This is likely the most commonly asked question, gtfo and read a faq
 
the result is a slap to your stupid face for writing such bad code. Frankly, I don't care what the result should or shouldn't be, you shouldn't write such code in the first place.
 
@thecoshman I narrowed it down to where the problem was. That's obviously not the original code.
 
10:06 AM
do you honestly not see what is wrong i = i--?
 
@thecoshman yea. i--; Just the first time I just swapped over to C++ an this is the first time I've actually come across undefined behavior like this.
 
it's not a question of undefined behaviour (it is UB just to be clear) it's a question of terrible terrible code
 
why not just i--?
 
i-- perfectly fine, i =i perfectly fine, all be it rather stupid, i = i-- just plain stupid
 
@thecoshman I never said it wasn't terrible. The code I was given to work with is this:
switch (choose)
    {
        case 1: ident1 = const1 + ident1;
        case 2: ident1 = 2 + const1 * 2;
        case 3: ident1 += ++ident1 + const1;
        case 4: ident1 = ident1-- + const1;
        default: ident1 -= 1;
    }
2
 
10:11 AM
ident1= ident1 - 1 + const1
end
 
also laff for not enabling warnings
might as well qualify for a Darwin Award
 
@betarunex hint, case can be a block of code, not just a single expression
 
also dat fallthrough
 
lol, i += ++i + j
 
3 mins ago, by milleniumbug
might as well qualify for a Darwin Award
 
10:15 AM
@milleniumbug oh yeah, got so used to patter matching I didn't even see that at first :P
 
10:39 AM
Does anyone else think it's a bit of a code smell to have an enum that 'needs' to call itself an enum
 
post the concrete name, maybe you can avoid calling it enum?
 
Good morning
 
Ven
hi shoe
 
How you doin'
 
Ven
meh
 
10:49 AM
:(
 
@thecoshman what
 
@thecoshman No
There are common words that clash too often, and I'd happily tack on Enum in the sense of literal programming
Can't say I did this (only in generated code, where it doesn't hurt a bit)
 
@betarunex In Java, i = i-- has no observable effect. It doesn't make sense to write this code in any language.
@rightfold Yo dawg, I herd you like borrowing, so I borrowed your hash table while it was already borrowed.
@thecoshman Slowly falling in love with Kotlin, are we? :)
 
@Ven What happens?
@Griwes Oh yeah, have been in my bookmarks for a while now :)
 
@fredoverflow Thanks. I'd never code like that, But I was just given code that had that so it's completely new to me and just fascinated me that it gave different results in different compilers. But i just read an article about it and see it hasn't been "fixed" purely because it's just terrible coding to start with anyway.
 
10:57 AM
@Shoe It's one of those things for which the snackchat search actually works.
 
@betarunex Who gave you that code? Was that someone being serious, or was he pulling your leg?
 
@fredoverflow Believe it or not, a University...
 
user1804599
I want to implement dependent Σ-types in my type checker.
 
@rightfold don't let your dreams be dreams
 
user1804599
:3
 
11:00 AM
@fredoverflow like teenage sex, hard and fast
 
So have you run into any annoying issues yet?
 
user1804599
Not really.
 
I meant the Kotlin pirate.
 
user1804599
lol Kotlin doesn't even have dependent Σ-types.
 
I have no idea what "dependent Σ-types" are.
 
user1804599
11:03 AM
Of course you'll run into issues with such a limited type system.
 
Ell
@rightfold is your type checker for simply typed lambda calculus currently?
 
nwp
@betarunex I feel sorry for you. They are screwing you over for life and there is nothing you can do about it.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow The type Σ(x: T), U is a type of pairs (x, y) where x: T and y: U where U can depend on the value x.
 
user1804599
@Ell No, it includes dependent Π-types as well.
 
is this Aristotelian programming?
 
user1804599
11:05 AM
No, it's per Per Martin-Löf.
 
user1804599
TIL he's still alive.
 
When are you going to abandon static types and convert to Ruby?
 
user1804599
Programming without types is stupid. It's like driving without steering wheel.
 
Ven
More like a blindfold. You can see where you're going... Not
 
@nwp I've had numerous problems with them already. Involving incorrect code, code that would not compile, duplicated code count extra marks instead of a using a do while loop, using or assigning out of bounds arrays etc. So far I think at lease 1 of each of those have been on every memorandum for every assignment so far. But yea, If I just blindly accepted what they said to be true, I'd probably be fired from my first job.
 
user1804599
11:09 AM
@Ven Programming without lamp.
 
it definitely results in having to cover more area with your tests
the most basic guarantee that an object has a particular method that you call is lost
 
user1804599
It's about writing code itself, not necessarily ensuring it's correct.
 
user1804599
I want the types to guide me.
 
user1804599
For example, if I don't know what to do, I can insert ?x and psc will tell me about the things I can put there that will have the correct type.
 
user1804599
Types also prevent me from making retarded decisions, such as auto-joining promises, or not handling all possible cases of a value.
 
user1804599
11:12 AM
Sometimes types are so general that only one possible implementation exists.
 
user1804599
These are killer features of types that you can exploit if you have them, to have a more fun time writing code.
 
Ven
11:25 AM
Also you know what you want to do, but not which function does that
Boom hoogle / pursuit
 
user1804599
@Ven the compiler lists the functions with the type of the hole :)
 
user1804599
And it's planned to add Pursuit integration
 
nwp
don't listen to rightfold, only madness lies on that path
 
user1804599
Eh
 
user1804599
Spaghetti code is madness
 
user1804599
11:46 AM
@ThePhD if you want true multidimensional arrays, not just arrays of arrays, don't make their syntax suggest the latter, so do something like int[,].
 
12:00 PM
@fredoverflow nothing major yet really
why... should I have?
@rightfold ergh... what sort of shoddy platform is that?
 
user1804599
@thecoshman I don't know what you mean.
 
user1804599
He is using Emacs on OS X IIRC.
 
@rightfold the hosting of that video
I don't want to watch stupid stuff
 
user1804599
12:16 PM
Oh, that's the organisation behind the conference. What about it?
 
it's poop
fear of new :P
 
user1804599
web.mit.edu serves in 33ms :/
 
user1804599
lol no TLS
 
ergh... Stallman ¬_¬
hah, Stallman, more like Stall progress
 
12:36 PM
ergh... I guess strictly speaking this is a visitor... it's just a converter class. It converts down to a generic 'dto', and so has a bazillion overrides of 'visit' each taking their own special type of 'dto', making an instance of some converter type and then using that to set a variable in the 'visitor'
such wank
 
Ell
argh
stack new is taking so long
 
user1804599
ugh, mojibake in customer e-mail
 
Ugh. Next time, I'll select the whole batch at once. This is hard
 
and now clean up those move messages :P
ergh... some ass has putting the heating on full whack because it's a bit cool outside
wtf is wrong with people?
 
and how do you gracefully close the connection/socket if any error arises ? @sehe — DevMac 1 hour ago
 
do you have a key shortcut to output "ergh..." I'd be bound to mistype it eventually
 
Fuck that guy attitude in people in particular.
@BogdanAlexandru Oh, you just didn't search for misspellings
 
user1804599
Twitter Hits Historic Scalability Milestone During The #Debates "50 million users blocked"
 
12:46 PM
I just suggested what I think you should do. The comment thread is not well suited as a personal support forum. Also, by reusing/posting questions on the main site you (a) make it possible for many more people to help (b) make it possible for many more people to find your solutions — sehe 17 secs ago
I wasn't mistaken in my allergic reaction just there
Actually, it was set off day ago
2 days ago, by sehe
Wat         ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​ — sehe 18 secs ago
 
nwp
@sehe ban for circumventing SO rules :P
 
It worked so well
You... didn't ask a question. — sehe 6 secs ago
Applause
woof woof?         ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​          ⠀⁠  ​ — sehe 19 secs ago
 
user1804599
@sehe Classic OP.
 
It is warranted
 
 
Ven
botany?
 
close, but not close enough
 
G'day all.
 
Okay, I've read it. The question is untreatable. None of the code makes sense and the error doesn't relate to the "code" at all. See my answer. — sehe 12 secs ago
@TannerSansbury Hi there
 
user1804599
1:17 PM
Phantom types are really nice.
 
are they like ephemeral types?
 
Ell
@rightfold what are they?
 
user1804599
A phantom type is a type constructor where not all type parameters appear in the definition.
 
Ell
like data Foo a b = Something b ?
 
Actually the class name is executor i have changed it to post the question to Connect @sehe — DevMac 1 min ago
36 mins ago, by sehe
Fuck that guy attitude in people in particular.
 
1:19 PM
I used that with the ST monad
 
ergh... too hot
 
I think it's used there to not allow cross-ST context interaction
 
user1804599
@Ell Yes.
 
user1804599
@BogdanAlexandru Yes.
 
stupid office heating broke, and got stuck on "sweaty bollocks" mode
 
user1804599
1:20 PM
XD
 
It's hotter than summer in here
I can't think for shit
 
user1804599
XD
 
user1804599
I put the radiator on 33 degrees.
 
user1804599
Nice and warm. :3
 
I had to take my hoodie off walking in this morning, was just far too hot
The more I work on this codebase, the less I understand what is going
 
Ell
1:32 PM
@rightfold why are they nice?
 
the ST monad is an example of why they're useful :P
The ST monad lets you use update-in-place, but is escapable (unlike IO). ST actions have the form:

ST s α

Meaning that they return a value of type α, and execute in "thread" s. All reference types are tagged with the thread, so that actions can only affect references in their own "thread".
s you don't specify but is filled by the compiler so two STs that return a value of the same type are not equivalent (i.e. they're not the same context)
 
Ell
How is it filled by the compiler?
 
user1804599
Rank-N types.
 
I don't know and I can't start googling for something like that
Ell take the wheel!
 
Ell
:3
I'm just thinking, why/how would the compiler ensure s is different in each series of actions?
 
1:36 PM
I think I saw another use of phantom types in a talk about haskell being used at some bank
 
user1804599
runST :: forall a. (forall s. ST s a) -> a
runST foo -- (1)
runST foo -- (2)
-- no proof that s is the same inside (1) and (2), hence not possible to mix up the values
 
where the compiler-filled type (like the thread in ST) represented the transaction ID
or something like that
so that you did not have cross-transaction talk or similar
it's fuzzy
and old so I don't think I'd be able to find it quickly
 
Ven
Interesting
 
Hi anyone here?
 
no
 
1:44 PM
:)
I'm pretty new to programming and have a question
 
Ven
we have a website! stackoverflow.com
 
Yeah I know
But...
 
Ven
But you can ask your question there :).
 
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Q: Program to create a delay in third party app?

moravecLet's say I want to write a program to delay the effect of clicking certain buttons in another application. The program would also need to get certain information about the current state of the other application. What would be the easiest and most efficient way to go about doing this? Is there a ...

They put it "on hold" for being "too broad"
 
user1804599
@Ven Unless you have been question banned, then you can't, because you are incapable of asking good questions.
 
Ven
1:46 PM
@rightfold that's be sooo amazing
 
I don't know how else to ask it
 
Ven
@rightfold I don't want people who've been question-banned to ask here :c.
 
user1804599
Me neither.
 
Ven
@moravec you need to do a bit of research before asking questions
 
user1804599
They're badlets.
 
Ell
1:47 PM
@moravec why didn't you listen man
 
Ven
and not the @bitcode kind of badlet.
 
Listen to whom?
 
@moravec here's a starting point assuming you're on windows stackoverflow.com/questions/4899573/…
 
if you have the source for both apps then making them talk to each other as part of their logic is easier :P
good luck
 
user1804599
 
Okay, thank you for that. And no, I don't have the source for the other app.
 
I dunno anything about winapi but with enough digging you'll either find a solution or find out that what you want is impossible
clicking other apps' UI is definitely doable, but making the other app wait a bit after it receives a click might be harder
or impossible
 
Ven
@rightfold Sorry, this page isn't available
 
user1804599
:
 
user1804599
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user1804599
1:52 PM
You must really hate your son to name him Badlet.
 
@rightfold badlet?
 
I think introducing delays after click events in another app is doable by altering the code of the other app as long as it runs as a child process to yours
like in that how-do-debuggers-work article
but man that starts feeling like black magic and definitely not something you wanna do if you can find ways to do it more simply
 

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