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7:00 PM
I thought all 1040 forms had it
 
I'm not even sure why this nonsense matters, since the tax rate seems to be the same regardless
It's mostly the FATCA status bullshit
 
@CatPlusPlus is this work stuff or your own stuff?
 
My own work stuff
 
very good :D
 
Interesting. Really, I haven't filled out a 1040 in a while, I end up using TurboTax or somesuch to actually do the calculation
 
7:02 PM
Oh I don't use e.g. TurboTax.
 
The fucking forms were updated with this bullshit last year and there's almost no up-to-date information and literally no information that'd be posted by people in the same situation
 
the IRS doesn't know either ;-P
I remember a thing where someone asked some higher up at the IRS "How do you keep up?" and the response being "Oh, we dont"
 
why are you dealing with US taxes though o_0
 
Because Steam
 
Steam is based in the US
 
7:05 PM
but he's not... so he doesn't pay US income tax
 
@Collin Because Congress slashed their budget a hitload
 
Steam pays taxes
And they'll have to cut 30% if I don't fill that form so that it's graciously reduced to 10% if I'm reading this stupid tax treaty right
 
user1804599
Because congress is the opposite of progress.
 
@CatPlusPlus Steam pay what would be your US income tax before you even get your money? strange...
 
It's withholding tax
 
7:09 PM
ah sod it, your shit :P
 
At least I don't have to pay that part of the tax here
 
all these fucking hipsters
> I actually prefer using a physical Dictionary (book), rather than the internet.
> You can smell the paper
wat
buy a piece of paper and smell it from time to time if the smell of paper is so needed to read a book
 
@Puppy It's the basic Republican play, hack and slash, making government ineffective. Say "Hey, Government is ineffective! We should slash the budget!"
 
"paper"
 
@rightfold No kidding
 
7:12 PM
@Collin Fortunately, I don't live there.
 
There's an updated treaty signed in 2013
We ratified it in 2013
USA still hasn't
 
yeah, we're good at that
 
> I'm making sure my kids read or there in trouble! WHO GETS RID OF BOOKS!?!
what the heck
 
> there
 
people crying because books will some day go away completely
jesus christ
 
7:15 PM
I think the last encyclopedia I actually looked at was in middle school
 
already posted
 
what up all
 
Wikipedia (/ˌwɪkɨˈpiːdiə/ or /ˌwɪkiˈpiːdiə/ WIK-i-PEE-dee-ə) is a free-access, free-content Internet encyclopedia, supported and hosted by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. Those who can access the site can edit most of its articles, with the expectation that they follow the website's policies. Wikipedia is ranked among the ten most popular websites and constitutes the Internet's largest and most popular general reference work. Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger launched Wikipedia on January 15, 2001. Sanger coined its name, a portmanteau of wiki and encyclopedia. Initially only in English, Wikipedia...
 
@CatPlusPlus Steam only takes 10%?
@Prismatic Hi.
 
@Nooble That's US tax if we claim treaty benefits properly
Steam cut is under NDA
 
7:23 PM
@CatPlusPlus Ah ok.
(They'll never have to know ;))
 
oh damn that obamacare thing on the board has me super duper mad
 
Nubel on train still?
 
Yes.
 
Well the entire agreement is under NDA, which is kind of silly, but oh well
 
@Prismatic probably not worth worrying about
 
7:26 PM
@Rapptz So when it'd count as active
 
Might as well tell us the cut!
 
Abandon all work, watch SGDQ
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes I prefer uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Wikipedia.
 
> well that's alarming
 
@CatPlusPlus If you work more than 500 hours on it per year, are the only one working on it, work 100 hours but more than any other employee, or put this in the tax form 5 times in the past 10 years.
IIRC.
 
I might be asking wrong question though
I seriously don't know why is this even important for them
 
@nabijaczleweli Heh it was part of a research project in school.
 
@Nooble They teach you taxes in school? Niiiice
 
> 317 million is 1 million 317 times... 360 million is 1 million 360 million times, 317 is smaller than 360
 
> 360 million is 1 million 360 million times
 
7:33 PM
> 360 million is 1 million 360 million times
 
those comments are sad
 
lol
 
what.
I am very confuse
 
Then these people go and vote and decide how a country should be governed. I might be too extreme but I'm not sure they should be allowed to
 
I'm surprised they know how to breathe without step-by-step instructions
 
7:36 PM
@Prismatic Surely you can find better subjects for your anger than that.
 
I guess it says good things about Facebook UX
"Even terminally stupid people can use it"
 
@JerryCoffin I have plenty of mad to go around
remember that km/h thing
 
@thecoshman The laughter sounds like it comes from a low-budget laugh track.
 
> vice president of computer programming
 
If you're going 60 km/h, how long does it take to travel 60 km?
uhhhh idunno lol
 
7:37 PM
@Nooble lol best comment
 
60 million hours
 
just got there
> my dad's a Vice President of computer programming and he's saying the exact same thing as me
@Prismatic obviously it takes you 60x60 = 3600 km^2/h
 
km/h^2
 
@StackedCrooked I know
 
11 mins ago, by caps
> well that's alarming
@AndyProwl Not really. Individuals have very, very little effect on politics via voting in the USA.
Our system of representation is pretty horrible.
There are some states where you can only vote for candidates from one of two parties. If you don't feel that either should represent you, well, tough luck.
 
7:42 PM
You still decide which candidate/party should govern
 
But I guess I agree with the general sentiment.
@AndyProwl There's not much difference between them in most respects when push comes to shove.
 
@Prismatic Still, be sure to use it wisely.
 
There's a few "key" issues that get a lot of press but they're not very different otherwise.
 
guys please, stop reposting each line of that thing.
 
> each line of that thing
 
yay Marshall answered, guess I'm going to CppCon
 
@fredoverflow It seems he clearly can't divide
Also he can't into units
 
he can, but only 317
360 is bigger so it works differently
like, you have to multiply the result by one million
 
stop triggering me
 
7:47 PM
I can't help observing how people lately keep telling 'stop doing X'
 
stop observing people
 
user837703
stop stopping people
 
stop combos about stopping
 
@Puppy clearly... something happened!
 
7:52 PM
nice
 
Is this one of those 2GB .gifv that I have to wait 15 minutes to load?
 
it was relatively fast here
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ vOv I don't know, I have not-shit internet
 
@CatPlusPlus Passive income gets taxed less.
For us anyway.
 
:\ stereotype much... italian
 
7:55 PM
It's not an income tax though
 
@thecoshman Size of .gifv is independent on the quality of ones internet
 
I don't know much about overseas.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I have big internets
 
It's withholding tax that Steam pays, not us
 
I wanna say it's passive income because you're not the one selling the product, Steam is.
 
7:57 PM
@thecoshman That hurted me
 
And the rate seems to be flat anyway (10% if we claim treaty benefits, 30% otherwise)
The stupid forms just asks us whether we're a passive NFFE or active NFFE
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ now now, in Italian please, "That ah hurted ah me ah"
 
And that passive/active income comes up then
 
ahahahaha
 
@thecoshman I hate the internet (at least assuming that's a contraction, like "the intern et all the snacks").
 
7:58 PM
> If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike
lol
 
@JerryCoffin huh?
 
There's apparently something called active royalties
 
> Se mia nonna avesse le ruote, sarebbe una carriola
 
with out internets we'd have no Internet
 
7:58 PM
Yeah me too
 
and you think I'm going to wank off to a bit of paper like a savage? I mean... I would, but that besides the point!
 
But yeah reading this I still think the income you get from Steam is passive.
 
@Rapptz you're not spamming enough :P
 
If that stupid tax was like 20% then I wouldn't bother with this treaty benefits things since I could just deduct the entire thing from tax here
But we have 19% not 30% so that's not a good deal
So I really want that 10%
Fucking complicated bullshit argh
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ he probably said 'bike' because he didn't know how to translate 'carriola', but 'bike' sounds funnier
 
8:01 PM
Why can't people come up with simple, consistent, elegant rules
 
@AndyProwl Yeah, it makes no sense
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It's an amazing line isn't it :D
 
> se la nonna avesse avuto le palle, sarebbe stata il nonno.
so many variants
 
From what I'm reading active is separate because in some cases it might not have tax applied to it in US
But passive is always taxed
So even if we might be active but tick passive nobody should mind because nobody's avoiding the tax?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ it's not meant to make sense either way, that's the point
 
8:03 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I think that actually comes from a TV advertisement, doesn't it
 
It's so dumb
 
Our tax forms are probably simpler because it's kinda straightforward.
 
is that sort of an Italian saying?
 
yeah
 
@thecoshman It's an italian proverb
 
8:04 PM
@thecoshman it's a way of saying "your what-if game makes no sense" or something
 
It's used when you keep spamming hypothetical "if"s around
 
is it meant to be wheelbarrow or bike?
@AndyProwl I got that part :P
 
@thecoshman barrow
 
@thecoshman I guess the former
 
but both work in a way
 
8:05 PM
@AndyProwl fyi 'barrow' alone would not make much sense
 
@thecoshman Think of "et" as the past tense of "eat".
 
Maybe this would be more straightforward if I wasn't interacting with US tax laws for the first time ever
 
@thecoshman yeah, well, barrow with wheels
 
@JerryCoffin oh...
 
You savages can't even keep sales tax consistent
 
8:06 PM
Sales tax isn't a federal thing
 
That's the point
 
wait... 'barrow' is a homophone for a sort of burial mound (I think that's they are)
I was getting confused
oh no, I was correct, same spelling and all, see
 
@CatPlusPlus Ralph Waldo Emerson said "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" (or something close to that anyway). The US IRS takes a stronger stance: any and all consistency is evil and must be expunged from the earth.
 
I guess we could be classified as active from "The NFFE is not yet operating a business and has no prior operating history, but is investing capital into assets with the intent to operate a business other than that of a Financial Institution; provided that the NFFE shall not qualify for this exception after the date that is 24 months after the date of the initial organisation of the NFFE" and leave it at that
 
so yeah... getting wheels on a barrow would be quite the engineering challenge :P
 
8:08 PM
But then again that's not on the form
 
@thecoshman on a related note, it appears that @sehe visited Barrow, Alaska
 
@JerryCoffin I can see that
 
oh, my nips are right perky in this chill air
2
 
@thecoshman That actually makes sense
 
8:10 PM
Is boingboing like the onion?
 
no idea
I just found it curious
 
> Any income from interest, dividends, rents, or royalties that is received or accrued from a related person to the extent such amount is properly allocable to income of such related person that is not passive income
what does that meaaaaaaaaan
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ which does?
 
I feel like I'm playing Nomic Hardcore
 
any way, I'm heading up
 
8:11 PM
@thecoshman Not actually putting bodies under ground level
For example it has the advantage of not killing the guy if he wakes up
 
(that would be up to bead like)
 
It's also easier
 
@AndyProwl who wrote this garbage
 
Okay that doesn't apply, not a related person
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ you can have a chamber under ground
 
8:12 PM
@Rapptz I dunno
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ except you still have to move the dirt from somewhere
 
this article is 100% wrong
 
any way, night fuck faces
 
they didn't even read the first few sentences of the paper they linked
 
8:13 PM
@Rapptz I'm shocked
 
@thecoshman Yes, taking the upper layer of dirt is much easier than anyone below
 
journalism.txt
 
The upper layer is fragmented, while the more you go down and the more the dirt is compressed
So it's harder to break up
 
Hydrocephalus (from Greek hydro-, meaning "water", and cephalé, meaning "head") is a medical condition in which there is an abnormal accumulation of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) in the ventricles of the brain. This causes increased intracranial pressure inside the skull and may cause progressive enlargement of the head if it occurs in childhood, potentially causing convulsion, tunnel vision, and mental disability. It was once informally called "Water on the brain." Hydrocephalus can be caused by congenital or acquired factors. Congenital causes include Spina Bifida, Arnold–Chiari malformation,...
"brain damaged", "virtually no brain"
 
you do medical imaging stuff right @Rapptz
 
8:20 PM
yea
 
what kind of software do you use? you ever use osirix? or slicer?
I used to use osirix at an old job ... shit was so cool
 
kek @ slicer
 
depends
for what exactly?
most of our PCs run on Windows 95
 
Amira
 
@Rapptz Nice
 
8:22 PM
it varies throughout the building
it's p. weird to me
so I just ignore it
 
@nabijaczleweli You don't like slicer? Its pretty cool. I used it to view a CT volume of my dad's lungs when he had a lung infection
 
@Prismatic I was keking @ the name
 
@Mikhail I've used Amira too but only briefly
 
@Mikhail this is what we use I think
 
Its what I use!
 
8:24 PM
I'd hate to work on medical software
 
Isn't Amira very general purpose? What I used was almost like a 3d tool kit that you could mess with
 
@Prismatic I just noticed you said "medical imaging stuff"
 
sbi
@caps Did you just drop my name in conjunction to this thing to add some gravity (stop snickering, robot!) to your statement or did I just forgot I ever saw this?
 
I missed the "imaging" part.
 
@Rapptz implementing a DICOM viewer doesn't sound like your cup of tea? lol
@Rapptz ah... that part is key
 
8:25 PM
Yeah I'm not a technical person in the hospital.
Just at home.
 
I'm getting errors like this: stackoverflow.com/questions/22860087/mutex-destroyed-while-busy . Basically the mutex doesn't release on the system level until control has returned to the calling thread which was busy destroying the class, do you guys think its a bug in MSVC-RT?
 
Where's the time..
 
or the date
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Bottom right.
 
oh thanks :)
 
8:27 PM
I know the computer we use to check in for work is Windows 95.
It takes like 30s to type in shit
 
@StackedCrooked Looks better than Windows 8+
 
It's always been there
 
I want to have an honest conversation with the people that designed the way modern windows looks
 
@JerryCoffin hehe
 
sbi
@Ell Are you talking of the SO badge?
 
8:28 PM
have you ever used Windows 8?
 
@JerryCoffin made of fool of himself :D
 
@sbi he he
 
Yeah I used it when it was in beta for a while
 
@StackedCrooked I blame my parents, not myself.
 
8:29 PM
it looks the same as Windows 7
mainly
 
No it doesn't
7 looks like a nicer Vista
 
I am literally using it right now
 
sbi
Are you in Australia, @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ?
 
8 was the tiles thing and they changed how the windows looked... flat design, uneven buttons
 
@Rapptz My condolences.
 
8:30 PM
bothered the hell out of me
 
@sbi Close enough to it, why?
 
8 has way less glassy textures and transparency
Which is a good thing
 
sbi
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ You're upside down.
 
He's in Australia
 
I don't mind muting the fancy effects
 
8:30 PM
I like Windows 8's look
 
But this looks like crap imo
 
The only difference in UI is the lack of transparency on the windows and the ribbon UI added to Explorer.
 
it looks fine
 
I think it looks bad. Though I'll admit most people don't seem as bothered by it as me
 
8:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus The glassy textures and transparency were mostly effects for the sake of effects--but XP (for one obvious example) was a lot nicer looking that 8 ever even tried to be.
 
Basically this
 
Windows XP looked like ass
 
You're not correct
Luna was bad and didn't even have any acceleration going for it
 
@sbi I thought for sure you tweeted about it a while back.
 
sbi
@caps Did I? Mhmm. It's certainly not past me to do so and then to totally forget about it...
 
8:34 PM
Windows XP had some nice themes
 
Default Windows XP theme looked really bad.
Those fat blue borders.
 
Is default blue?
Ugh
Custom(?) green is great
 
I'm still on 10162.
 
@sbi Trying to see if I can find it in your history...
 
sbi
If you dig through my history, you got to have a lot of patience.
What's your Twitter handle, BTW, @caps?
 
8:40 PM
this theme was great
 
@sbi @caps_locked
 
sbi
Which one is it now?
 
It's deactivated.
I don't have a twitter account right now is what I mean
 
You could say that it's locked
 
#Android: CrystaX NDK 10.2.0 with Boost 1.58.0 http://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/3b2fwu/crystax_ndk_1020_with_boost_1580_and_objectivec_v2/ #cplusplus
 
sbi
8:43 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Was that meant to be an explanation for your upside-down typography?
@caps It was @sehe who RT'd that.
 
@sbi Was going to say that if I could get it to ever onebox
 
@Prismatic What win is that?
 
You have to remove ?lang=en, because snackchat is Very Well Coded and can't deal with real URLs
 
sbi
@caps I bet it's the lang suffix that prevented this.
 
There we go.
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, that.
 
8:45 PM
Regex processing woo
 
Its an XP beta iirc. That theme never shipped with retail XP, you had to download it separately
 
Good job
0/9
 
@Prismatic Thanks.
 
sbi
@ChemiCalChems I guess it's 2k.
@Prismatic Oh.
 
@sbi Looked like so.
 
8:45 PM
Its too bad, I think thats my favorite windows theme.
 
@Prismatic It's kind of nice for non-aero. Toolbar is terrible though.
 
I need to build a barn. While investigating i came across a shop that trades in specialised carpentry tools and I bought a bag full of them. How would I use the tools to build the shed? — sehe 2 mins ago
 
The sexy bear is back!
 
I'm not. On some very flimsy wifi here
 
sbi
8:56 PM
Germany's parliament's IT personnel is wrestling some malware since May this year. Now they announced that they plan to take the whole parliamentary network down for four days in August in order to get a grip on this problem.
 
rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
 
user1804599
@sehe Where are you?
 
Should I tell random strangers on the Internet?
 
sbi
@rightfold He's on some very flimsy wifi.
 
Right. I can add I'm high as a kite
 
user1804599
8:59 PM
@sehe only specific ones.
 

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