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Ell
5:00 PM
@Nooble meh I still don't have it yet technically :P
I have to get into uni
 
lol
There's not std::bin like std::hex or std::oct.
 
@ScottW nah use Mint
 
You can use bitset for that
 
You have to define a fixed amount of bits, which is platform dependent if what you are printing is an int for example.
 
christ... I can't even remember the last time I rebooted my PC
 
5:02 PM
dynamic_bitset has formatting too
Plus you can use sizeof
 
sizeof tells you the number of bytes, not how many bits there are in a byte
Also dynamic_bitset has the same issues because you still have to define the number of bits in the container
 
@ScottW oh right
no I mean I just rebooted
 
std::ostream& out_bit<T>(std::ostream& stream, T value) {
    return stream << std::bitset<sizeof(T) * CHAR_BITS>(value);
}
Or whatever
 
I usually just suspend... does that still count towards up time I wonder?
 
It's really not an issue
 
5:05 PM
CHAR_BITS is not standard
 
@ScottW some sys logs might tell me actually...
but meh, cba to find out
 
CHAR_BIT, whatever
It is standard
It's in climits/limits.h
 
@thecoshman That's my secret, it's always booted...
 
@Ell Me too. It sucks.
 
Ell
I called amazon and they were very helpful
 
5:09 PM
@Ell What did they say?
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh nice
Still, just for consistency, I see no reason to support hexadecimal, decimal, octal and not binary.
Well, bases <= 16 at least
 
@Nooble Sure we can
 
Binary formatting is even less common than octal formatting
 
@ScottW linux, but I just rebooted about 20 minutes ago
 
5:11 PM
Octal is an odd duck that people keep supporting for some dumb reason
 
sorry, 13 miutes ago
 
@CatPlusPlus Is it that hard to implement that you have to study usage statistics to weight wether to implement it?
 
Ell
They have sent a refund request
 
@ScottW hey
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ No, but features default to not be implemented
 
5:12 PM
meh
No
A is 10
no
0-9 and then A-Z
So you can get to base 36
 
@ScottW We can invent decahexadecimal.
 
you can't
 
@ScottW a friend and I once worked out how denote base 42 :P
 
Nerds
I need to write collectd plugins
Send help
 
why not support unicode
 
5:14 PM
Base 2^21, use every codepoint in Unicode
 
@CatPlusPlus Help -> Cat
 
welp time to have fun installing Windows 10
 
I want to have 🕴 bux
 
@Ell Congrats! You did better than me lol
I can't get Imperials bursary because I'm not a home student
 
@Ell Congratulations; now you can get paid to completely waste your life.
 
5:16 PM
@Columbo Are you italian?
 
@ScottW I would get 6000 pound a year if I was a home student
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ No, I'd love to learn Italian though
 
Oh, because scholarship is "borsa di studio" and you used "bursary"
1/2
1/4 of italian and 1/4 of english
define "know"
I know there are many programming languages
1
In which "youk" is a synonym for "fuck"
So "do youk now" is really "do fuck now?"
To which, I might reply "yes"
Sorry, I'm hungry
Here, be hungry with me
 
Wow--a lot of virtual fucking going on.
 
@JerryCoffin if you want to join..
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It was bad enough when only @EtiennedeMartel tried to make me gain 6000 pounds a year. You don't need to join in.
 
5:22 PM
he he
 
@Ell Happy sailing on your scholar ship!
 
Ell
@Columbo cheers, and didn't you apply to external scholarships/bursaries also?
 
> We all have them. Graveyards of half-built projects. Folders and repos with the remains of unfinished dreams. That game. That app. That data visualization. Great ideas that are now just collecting that metaphorical dust.
 
Ell
I forgot what course you're doing though - maths/compsci?
 
5:26 PM
@fredoverflow Kyrostat...
 
Xeo
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I gotz food.
Damn that Quantum Conundrum speedrun
 
@Ell Yeah, I should get the Cambridge one (provided I get into there, which I kinda doubt at this point :D), but I couldn't get the Imperial one. I didn't apply to any other ones, because I'm lazy
 
Ell
@Puppy university ain't a waste
@fredoverflow thank you!
 
you're right; that's being quite harsh on unlivable wastes.
it's a total and complete waste.
 
Ell
It's gonna be great and totes not a waste
 
5:32 PM
Are you still going with the hilariously overpriced ripoff dorms
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus prolly
Maybe I misunderstood the price though
 
@Ell As long as all you wanted to do was drink too much and not learn anything
 
Ell
I will learn lots
and gain valuable work experience
 
@fredoverflow I think he has a good point.
 
@JerryCoffin Context, please.
 
5:34 PM
@Nooble Should be provided by clicking the arrow.
 
Ell
@Columbo were you too late to apply or just too lazy to bother applying at all?
 
@Ell For the Imperial one? For the aforementioned reason.
18 mins ago, by Columbo
I can't get Imperials bursary because I'm not a home student
 
@Ell What exactly does it mean? You don't have to pay for University?
 
@JerryCoffin I mean, the gaining 6000 pounds thing.
 
Ell
@fredoverflow It means I get a big chunk of cash for each year of study, as well as 2 months of paid training/work experience each summer
 
5:35 PM
@Nooble Oh, that:
18 mins ago, by Scott W
I gain 6000 pounds a year...but not the money...
 
Ell
I will still have to pay, but this will pay for about half of it. I can choose to spend the money on other things, though
 
Whole silly thread.
 
Ell
But I will probably just spend it all on tuition fees
 
@Ell lol
 
Ell
still though, this is all dependent on me getting into my univeristy, which I will find out if I have or not on the 13th of august
@Puppy idk why that's lol
it's true
 
5:37 PM
@Ell Which university did you apply to?
 
Ell
@fredoverflow the University of Bristol
 
@Ell He probably thinks you can't gain experience at work because coworkers are dumbasses.
 
Ell
I'll be living uncomfortable close to @Puppy ;)
 
@Ell What are you going to study?
 
user1804599
I want a =<:>= operator.
 
Ell
5:38 PM
@fredoverflow Electronic Engineering & Computer Science
 
@rightfold What is this, a post-modern space-ship operator?
 
Ell
With EE being the main focus
 
@rightfold That's a weird face.
 
user1804599
Type inference with subtyping is incredibly interesting.
 
You should have a beer with Martin Odersky.
 
user1804599
5:38 PM
My idea is similar to unification.
 
@Ell IIRC he's had a bad experience with University.
 
Its lol because its funny that you actually think that
 
user1804599
Except instead of finding equal types, you found types that lie within bounds.
 
Ell
@Puppy Why wouldn't it be useful?
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow I dislike beer, so no thanks.
 
5:40 PM
Because its at university.
 
Yesterday I saw someone chug a gallon of beer.
Like a huge mug.
 
Ell
@Puppy it's at another company
it just happens to be during the time I'm at university
 
Taking lots of monrey and doing nothing in return is what they specialise in
 
@rightfold Wine?
 
Ell
I'm getting paid for the work
 
user1804599
5:41 PM
No.
 
user1804599
Also disgusting.
 
user1804599
How about water or cow milk?
 
Well you might get experience if you actually do all that stuff yourself but in that case why include the uni at all
 
Ell
I want the uni part as well
 
@rightfold Banana milkshake!
 
5:42 PM
That's the funny part
 
Ell
I would rather both lectures and self study than just the latter
 
Someone actually wanting uni
 
I also ate a 1500 calorie burger yesterday.
 
Ell
@Nooble man it sounds good just from the calories
 
Kinda like wanting to be thrown into a volcano
 
5:43 PM
@Ell :P
 
Ell
@Puppy I know your experience with university was not good - but that doesn't mean that everyone elses aren't good
or that it is useless
Do you think people should self study isntead?
 
University is self-study.
 
Much more effective
 
University is not school.
 
@Puppy Some people apparently enjoy academia. A few even make careers out of it, though I wonder how many of those (quite knowingly) fall within the "those who can, do; those who can't teach" range.
 
5:45 PM
They call it the "Supreme". Something something 8oz patty, onion rings and fries inside it.
And swiss-cheese and mushrooms.
 
Also, its a statistical fact that university isn't worth the cost
 
@Puppy How would I get a job without a degree? (Honest question here, not rhetorical).
 
I did
 
@Puppy Probably true if you think only in terms of how much money you earn. That's not the only possible criteria though.
 
5:46 PM
@Puppy Do they test you or something?
 
Xeo
@Nooble So did I
 
@Nooble From my own experience, I would say that 90% of programmers who went to University are complete retards.
 
Just don't keep switching projects, build one project to high quality that proves I as a concept
 
@Nooble Having a University degree does in no way prove that you're a good programmer.
 
Jerry: Money is what they're making me give them (lots) so it should at least start by making back its cost
 
5:50 PM
@fredoverflow Yes, of course. But all the job listings I see ask for degrees.
@Puppy How much did your uni cost?
 
@Puppy If that's your criteria, that's fine--I'm just saying it seems reasonable to me that there could/would be people with other ideas of what would make it a good or bad choice.
 
The only other thing I saw students doing was getting wasted, which you can do outside of university
 
Ell
@fredoverflow right - but not solely self-study
you have lectures
I did solely self study this year and it was difficult af
 
Yes, and those lectures should be the starting point of your studies.
 
Ell
(not that uni won't be difficult af)
@fredoverflow I agree
 
5:54 PM
What does "af" mean?
 
Ell
as fuck - excuse the crudity :)
 
user1804599
shit, ambiguous grammar
 
user1804599
I need an extra keyword.
 
I knew it!
 
user1804599
{
    T
    {}
}
-- vs
{
    T{}
}
 
5:56 PM
What does an empty block evaluate to? Unit?
 
So guys it's pouring.
Really hard.
And I need to get home.
 
been there
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Yes.
 
@Puppy I'd have to guess you weren't very observant then. Just for example, a lot of those kids getting wasted were also making friends. Yes, of course it's possible to do that without a University getting involved--but the common goals (etc.) of university can facilitate it in cases where it probably wouldn't occur otherwise.
 
user1804599
{} is unit. { 1 } is 1. { {} 1 } is 1. { 1 1 } is a type error.
 
user1804599
5:58 PM
All but the last expressions must be of type ().
 
@JerryCoffin I had a bunch of uneducated pissant friends before I went to university
 
user1804599
Rationale: CQS.
 
@fredoverflow waiting for my million to show up in the mail
 
bah
silly windows 10
it told me it would keep my settings but now I have 1 720p screen instead of 2 1080p screens.
 
6:01 PM
@Puppy Surely--but from what I've seen, friendships formed in college are often much more lasting and meaningful. My oldest brother still stays in touch with his college friends, even though he's now close to retirement (but I'm reasonably certain could barely even remember the names of most of the people he went to high school with).
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow lol
 
presumably depends on going to a college full of people with similar interests
like spending their whole education getting wasted.
 
@Puppy That's actually pretty impressive--I guess destroying one screen isn't that impressive, but reducing the number of pixels in the other is quite an accomplishment.
 
Well, I seem to have bricked my desktop with win 10
 
@Puppy Nice :D
 
Xeo
6:12 PM
gg
 
gg
 
ok
apparently the bricking was just temporary.
 
@fredoverflow damnit syndey, get your shit together
 
soft brick
 
reflash BIOS
 
6:13 PM
Not quite as soft as a pillow but close
 
this is creepy
i've just said that
 
spoopy
 
@Puppy it's optimising your use of pixels :P
@Puppy oh, so you just suck at computers in general
 
it's not my fault, the nVidia drivers don't work properly
and nVidia's update mechanism and Win10's update mechanism conflict
 
lol
 
6:17 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ No, you addressed Syndey, not Sydney.
 
fucking 20+ years of big name OSs and we still can't fucking sort out up dates?
 
(Who is Sydney?)
 
vOv Pornstar?
 
@fredoverflow Red in that thread
 
Weren't all the names blanked out?
 
6:23 PM
No
@fredoverflow First comment
 
@Puppy how buggy is win10?
 
wait... 1 million to 370 million people totals 2.something trillion... what sort of numbers are theses guys using?
 
@JohanLarsson Seems fairly servicable. Only problematic if you have an nvidia card and even then it wasn't a huge deal.
 
do you use it for all things or just playing around with it?
 
considering that I literally just upgraded, it's hard to argue that I use it for all things.
 
6:31 PM
still beta/preview right?
 
no.
official release was yesterday.
 
that moment of boredom when you dont even know what to watch on youtube
 
ah, nice
 
@thecoshman s/numbers/substances/
 
@fredoverflow excellent way to teach kids how to binary search!
2
 
6:33 PM
@fredoverflow I thought that guy understood numbers vOv (x10^a)(y10^b) = (xy)10^(ab) vOv what' hard?
 
@fredoverflow Thanks.
 
@AlexM. I agree!
 
@fredoverflow ... do I even want to?
 
Only if you're bored!
 
0
Q: The living nightmares

Daniel WongThe living nightmares? Is when you are falling and your dream and you suddenly wake up and you acknowledge that you will never feel more alive than falling in your nightmares.

^^ wut
 
6:35 PM
lol
 
kekekeke
 
> Okay, so what is an encyclopedia?
> It like tells you about stuff!
lol
I love that moment when Chelsea realizes "they're going by letters" :D
> Let's see if they like have a back index thing...
Why would encyclopedias have a back index?
 
personally I might simplify that into "why encyclopedias"
 
They like tell you about stuff!
 
not very effectively thoug
h
 
6:51 PM
Ugggghhhh fucking taxes
Someone tell me whether income from selling something on Steam would be classified as passive or active in US
 
@fredoverflow Well, they do.
 
@CatPlusPlus Depends.
Is it your full time thing to sell games?
 
aaaaaaaaa
 
user1804599
ok
 
user1804599
this time hello world really works :D
 
6:55 PM
Cutting to the chase, it's more than likely passive.
Since I suspect it's money on the side.
 
@CatPlusPlus Passive or active? I've never heard of that
 
It's a corporation
We'll be selling Unity assets and contractual services too buuut that's future
I'm trying to figure out W8-BEN-E and my head hurts
 
@Collin How?
 
I mean, I've never heard of that being a distinction on my US taxes
 
I think what Steam gives us counts entirely as royalties
 
6:59 PM
though I guess you're not talking about the same taxes I'd have experience with
 
What tax forms do you fill where you don't have a Passive and Non-Passive Income table?
 

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