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1:00 PM
in other words, yes, it started drilling but did not go far at all
then it ran out of power
 
A thing we've never been to turned out to not be exactly what we thought it was, what a scandal, they should all get fired
 
Woah, meta just got a facelift
 
It's meant for main.
 
@chmod711telkitty "what we got out of the mission was totally worth its price, but despite this, it was a failure". Wat?
also ugh, why am I debugging TLS communication between Apache and a french webbrowser behind a proxy?
 
Well, I still think the mission was a great attempt to decipher the mysteries in the space. But I doubt their description of mission 80% completed ...
 
1:03 PM
LIFE IS TOO SHORT FOR THIS SHIT
 
@jalf It was worth the price and it isn't over yet! What a catastrophe.
@chmod711telkitty It's not "mission 80% completed".
No one is surprised you doubt bullshit you made up in your head.
 
is kitty still going on about rosetta
 
๐•ฒ๐–”๐–”๐–‰ ๐–’๐–”๐–—๐–“๐–Ž๐–“๐–Œ, ๐–‘๐–”๐–š๐–“๐–Œ๐–Š.
 
@rightfรธld yeah, which is why I have the mad thought oh learning COBOL every so often :S
 
that time of the night, I am off to hug my bed ...
 
1:10 PM
ok, nvm.
 
Ell
@orlp how
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes updated there, what you think?
 
@Ell ๐“—๐“ธ๐”€ ๐”€๐“ฑ๐“ช๐“ฝ?
 
@Ell Mathematical Fraktur symbols.
 
First HN post
 
1:11 PM
oh cmon guys
lemme have some fun :(
 
Xeo
> CJK+Thai pseudoalphabet ใ‚“ow wใ‚“๏พ‘๏ฝฒ?
 
@Ell 0 yet
 
Xeo
Those are Japanese kana :o
 
Which fall into CJK
 
but I think I won't be able to go on solar+batteries alone
batteries have fairly small throughput
I'm already running over 3MW
 
1:13 PM
> ใ‚“ไน‡๏พš๏พšo woๅฐบ๏พšd
lol
 
๐•ท๐–”๐–š๐–“๐–Œ๐–Š<๐•ฎ++>
 
๐•๐• ๐• ๐•ฃ๐• ๐•“๐• ๐•ฃ ๐•ฆ๐•Ÿ๐•š๐•”๐• ๐••๐•–๐•ค
 
@Xeo What do you think the J means in CJK?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit damn feminazi
 
1:22 PM
those offspin sites are dumb
there's way too many of them
 
@BartekBanachewicz Spin off. Yes.
 
spin overflow
 
Xeo
spin-offerflow
 
spun-off
and yeah it's a bit silly I agree
though some are quite cool
 
spinoffed.
 
Xeo
1:26 PM
Gespinofft.
 
I am not gemüsed.
 
if I fart loud enough, will Philae wake up?
 
Unicode answer now at +85 and kicking all the other answers' arses
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit src?
 
Ell
1:30 PM
what are "shapes"?
doesn't that mean dance moves? :P
 
Ell
when you throw shapes
or put down some hot shapes
 
Xeo
err
 
Ell
I though it meant dance
 
Are you serious?
 
A shape is the form of an object or its external boundary, outline, or external surface, as opposed to other properties such as color, texture, material composition. Psychologists have theorized that humans mentally break down images into simple geometric shapes called geons. Examples of geons include cones and spheres. == Classification of simple shapes == Some simple shapes can be put into broad categories. For instance, polygons are classified according to their number of edges as triangles, quadrilaterals, pentagons, etc. Each of these is divided into smaller categories; triangles ca...
 
Ell
Verb: throw shapes
  1. (Ireland, idiomatic, slang) To act tough or put up a front. For example, to threaten a person by making "karate chops" at them, without actually doing harm or knowing karate.
 
Ell
damn. Why didn't it show the second definition :L
I know what shapes are in regular talk :P
 
1:33 PM
85
A: Why is the length of this string longer than the number of characters in it?

Adam D. RuppeEveryone else is giving the surface answer, but there's a deeper rationale too: the number of "characters" is a difficult-to-define question and can be surprisingly expensive to compute, whereas a length property should be fast. Why is it difficult to define? Well, there's a few options and none...

@Ell curves
 
afternoon
 
Ell
nice
If a member function isn't qualified as & or &&, is it just called unqualified? or is it called value qualified or what?
 
Xeo
1:51 PM
un
or not-
 
Ell
yeah
 
What is bronze steel? DF doesn't have it, can't exist.
 
awesum
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes DF - The Ultimate Truth?
 
I guess it's just steel with a touch of bronze for colour.
 
1:54 PM
damit
very basic to understand, not sure if it works the same but the principle is the same PDE
 
That's a lot of words
 
Ell
What does declaring a function static at namespace scope mean?
 
Internal linkage
 
Ell
oh yeah
 
2:09 PM
morning everyone
 
Stacking absurdities: the majority of the earth surface is also above sea level. — Mooing Duck 15 hours ago
2
 
This is for Algorithms lab exam at ETH Zürich, we are given 6 problem and 12 hours to solve them,it involves boost,stl and cgal libraries. Unfortunately the judge is only available to student of the course. fiy: the judge is a real pain :) — LoveMeow 25 mins ago
lol /cc @FilipRoséen-refp
 
@sehe my students love the new judge, it's freakin' awesome! ;)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes steel with copper?
can I automate that?
 
It physically hurts how clearly this code has been copy and pasted. And knowing that we are going to be pushed to do like wise now that yet another one of these has come along.
 
2:19 PM
@FilipRosรฉen-refp no doubt it's awesome. Still I detect a bias :)
 
The differences are so minor, it's so easy to have just had them captured behind a simple class that you can ask for your version of that bit of data.
The logic is spot on identical
 
@sehe the students compare it to the former judge, and I've only gotten positive feedback. sure, it's a lot stricter and actually test what it is supposed to test, so there are a lot of implementations that got "ACCEPTED" only to be "REJECTED" by the new judge
but the diagnostics they get is quite decent, and the new version will actually output a testcase that they can download and compile with their implementation, and see where it does things wrong
 
Ell
@FilipRosรฉen-refp you're at ETH? o.O
 
oh come on! even the crappy comments are the same!
Why can't people refactor
 
what are you guys talking about?
 
2:24 PM
@Ell nhaa, I'm at KTH (the royal institute of technology, stockholm (sweden)). But @sehe knows that I've been working on a judge that tests the implementations submitted by the students, which is why he cc:ed me (I guess)
 
Ell
Ohh I see
 
0
Q: Apply transforms to XML attribute containing escaped HTML

Tom FenechI have some XML that looks like this: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <root> <issue xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"> <comment text="&lt;div class=&quot;wiki text&quot;&gt;&lt;h4&gt;Tom Fenech&lt;/h4&gt;Here is a comment&lt;/div&gt;&#10;"/> </issue> </...

poor sod
 
Ell
Are int and int& both types? or is the latter a qualified type
I need to read the standard
 
of course they're both types.
a qualified type is a type- the hint's in the name.
also I don't think that int& is qualified, I think that's just cv-qualifiers.
ref-qualifiers only qualify member functions, IIRC.
 
@Ell nhaa, they are both types (and both fall into the category of literal types)
@Ell a reference type cannot be cv-qualified, but it may refer to a cv-qualified type
@Ell as in int& const doesn't make sense, but int const& does
 
2:34 PM
hm
my intuition about buffers seemed correct
I now see I wasn't consistent in applying them though
 
bah
can't use anonymous type projection in C# with expressions, only identifiers and member accesses? wat da fuq.
 
Ell
I'm trying to store a hierarchy of symbols in a postrgesql database
It sounds like such a terrible idea written down
But I can't get the schema to be right
 
@Ell maybe use document data for that?
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I was thinking that
 
> An accumulator has a lower delivery priority than any other power-using entity, this guarantees, that it receives only energy, when you have enough. At the same time it can deliver energy in another electric network. Both facts together works in this case as a regulated transformer and delivers only energy into other networks, if you are producing enough. Or in other words: in a power shortage, only the unimportant parts of your factory stop - not the whole factory.
oooh
 
2:39 PM
talk to @rightfold
I think he's fond of postgresql and has mentioned a thing like this
 
Ell
Okay thanks :)
 
now that I think of it.. reputation on SO is a way to help others and possibly land a job on careers.SO.. but what's the use of farming rep on physics.SE and similars? Just the "help other people" feeling? I believe there's no careers.physics.SE, right?
 
Curiosity (like Stack Overflow, by the way)
I doubt many people care about careers.SO
 
@BartekBanachewicz I just have a huge farm of solar panels and accumulators. During the day, I have enough surplus power to fully charge the accumulators, and at night I only get about quarter of the way through my backup.
Only reason for me to use steam engines and boilers is if I want to use laser turrets.
 
2:46 PM
@sehe true, but then I wonder what's up with all the others non-programming related websites.. not sure if they're heavily ads'd (it seems not)
 
Ell
@sehe Maybe. But I think I'll just write the schema and normalise manually
 
@thecoshman well that's a pretty basic setup. You can get much better than that
 
Ell
this is what I have so far :P pastebin.com/3fAREJLB
there are still errors though
And not sure it makes sense entirely
 
@thecoshman How did you even managed to interpret it that way after we have discussed this shit for weeks.
 
user1804599
@Ell define heieracthy
 
2:57 PM
@Jefffrey It doesn't matter what has been read before, I read what is there.
 
Ell
@rightfรธld I'm not sure. I want to be able to get all the symbols under a particular namespace for example
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, I know you can get clever an have it work out when the accumulators are low and then fire up the boilers. IMO I never want them to do that. Plus my factory is expanding, I'll soon have to add more storage and generation. oh, and balls to shutting down anything :P
 
Ell
idk. Idk. I'll try to generate a diagram now :P
 
user1804599
@Ell class templates are not classes, so don't make inheritance relationship for that.
 
user1804599
It's a terrible idea.
 
Ell
2:59 PM
@thecoshman what capacity?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've been looking for that talk too many times and too many times I was forced to search with fucking chat.SO search which it utterly terrible.
 
Ell
@rightfรธld what should I do for it?
 
@thecoshman What do you propose for the wording?
 
IIRC you guys were all trying out the new visual studio
anyone got a link for me?
 
user1804599
No inheritance for relationships that are not is-a. No matter what.
 
Ell
3:01 PM
@rightfรธld Yeah fair
 
user1804599
Also table inheritance sucks for numerous reasons. Don't use it.
 
Ell
@rightfรธld man. why not?
 
user1804599
Why do you want to store this in a relational database?
 
Ell
@rightfรธld I've already started, really. I was looking at mongodb earlier though
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
3:02 PM
Why do you want to store it in a database anyway?
 
Ell
@rightfรธld documentation wiki. I could just store it in a big xml file I suppose
 
@MarcoA. I think ads are dropped as soon as you are "trusted community member" (you sign on with a confirmed email adress - and have a minimum rep across SE sites?)
 
Ell
I don't know really :L
 
user1804599
@Ell try graph database instead, like Neo4j.
 
3:04 PM
@sehe still kinda failing at understanding the purpose of all those QA sites beyond SO..
 
holy crap this must be the cutest dog ever img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aoZV7Ow_460s.jpg
 
the economic purpose I mean
 
1
Q: std:: qualifier needed when overloaded namespace function exists?

user2746401If I have a little bit of code like: using namespace std; namespace myNamespace { vector<float> sqrt( vector<float> v ) { return v; } void func() { vector<float> myVec = { 1, 2, 3, 4 }; std::cout << sqrt( myVec )[0] << std::endl; float myFloat = 4.0f; ...

I smell language lawyer
 
@orlp maaaaaybe their datacenters went south :/
 
@sehe what do you mean?
 
3:05 PM
@Mgetz I smell another ADL noob
 
@sehe ADL? pardon my noobishness
 
Nah. You know it. You just don't know you do. Also, looks like regular namespaces trip the OP up already.
 
Ell
@rightfรธld I'll have a look
 
@orlp the only explanation why you couldn't find their site
 
I just don't know which one is the correct one lol
is that it?
 
There's the 2015 preview and there's 2013 community
 
Which one where you guys trying?
 
oh, cool, more delays for the Berlin airport thing?
 
@Ell .25Gj tis small now :P
 
pretty sure it's a bad sign when news about that show up in mainstream media in other countries :)
 
3:09 PM
@thecoshman Is Gj the alternative to microFarad?
 
@Jefffrey stick to discrap (never thought I'd say that)
@sehe sure. but really you want to play with full Farads
 
@jalf No, nothing can be a bad sign in that matter anymore.
At this point, any event related to the new airport is either normal or a good sign.
 
what if it got bombed by terrorists?
 
That's what happens at rock bottom.
 
3:12 PM
Is there anything to bomb :v
 
@Puppy Good sign: terrorists are dumb as fuck.
 
or all the construction workers got infected with Ebola?
 
Xeo
@Puppy Good sign: Apparently flight from Africa works!
 
I'm sure they'll be relieved to get out of development hell
 
user1804599
@sehe Nice.
 
user1804599
3:13 PM
It should be down.
 
And how can I store the "proper" sum value (ie after std::fixed) in a new variable ? The actual problem is not just to cout the sum rather than use it... — Just_Newbie 2 mins ago
for goodness's sake
 
grr microsfot
 
@thecoshman radars don't need to work at night really
 
@BartekBanachewicz Seems it's just like regular stainless steel, except with more bronze.
 
@BartekBanachewicz if you think you need radars, you think you need them all the time. Still, plenty of capacity to run them over night if I want. Yes, it is a brute force solution, but my god does it work.
 
3:16 PM
@sehe oh right argument dependent lookup derp
 
More radars just scans faster btw, not further
 
> I feel like an idiot. MS featured my Azure startup today, quoting me about overall stability etc (which has been the case for us, until today). They then proceeded to go down, taking all our production systems with them.
 
You should start making radar outposts
@R.MartinhoFernandes Marketing did it!
 
@CatPlusPlus "Now you see them, now you don't!"
 
3:19 PM
@Just_Newbie: Stop! Don't start a conversation in the comments. Transform your question so that it contains this crucial information, via editing. :) — Lightness Races in Orbit 5 secs ago
I have a bad feeling about where this is going.
 
shit hn says.txt
I wanted to do something productive today
I managed to do whole shitload of nothing
And now I'm sleepy
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He clearly can't read; what do you expect?
 
> Software Developers at Red Box Recorders donโ€™t work in isolation. They are part of a collaborative team that takes full ownership of its solutions; liaises with both staff and customers; and delivers products that the entire company is proud of.
Isn't that standard?
I mean, every company I worked at was basically this.
 
I guess they just wanted to make sure
 
3:23 PM
Maybe it's just a long way of saying "We're not shit, we swear!"
 
FWIW, "delivers products that the entire company is proud of" is not universal ;P
@EtiennedeMartel yeah#
just like the sort of crap you write on CVs. "I am interested in my field, and I want to progress. Also, I am hard working and easy to communicate with." Well, fucking duh
 
I like how some of Career's UI is in French on my end.
 
Stack Overfrog
 
@thecoshman "if you think you need radars, you think you need them all the time" - uh no?
treating energy as "another bar I have to fill" is dumb imho
 
Seeing anti-#GamerGate people babbling about how many games they played is like hearing Nazis talk about how much they like Jewish food.
 
3:25 PM
@Mysticial if you use -fomit-frame-pointer does that mean you can get another register in %rbp?
 
@orlp -fomit-frame-fpointer
 
user1804599
-vomit-frame-pointer
 
@BartekBanachewicz Radars track enemy movements too btw
 
user1804599
Who is GamerGate?
 
@BartekBanachewicz ?
 
3:27 PM
@Xeo We went to a shelter with the cats, they couldn't take them, as they're full, but they put them on a waiting list. They were indeed abandoned, one of them was chipped and they called the owner. A coworker will take them home and hopefully find new homes. I think they're keeping one at least.
 
oh hey, google seems to have finally started ranking cppreference results above cplusplus.com
 
@orlp nevermind
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion yay, at least something
 
Ell
@rightføld this is cool. neo4j I mean
 
Xeo
owner should be fined for just putting them out in a box :(
 
3:27 PM
@CatPlusPlus oh welp
 
FFS @thecoshman if you don't want to overrule Jefff, shut up; if you do, say it.
 
@jalf I use the Personal Blocklist Chrome extension
 
@Xeo my thoughts too
 
@rightfรธld the all-powerful consumer revolt consisting of billions of gamers who are angry that a game developer had sex and they didn't.
 
Xeo
(also, who is dumb enough to have them chipped and then abandons them)
@jalf lolwut
@TonyTheLion Also, can you send them to me via express mail?
 
3:29 PM
@Xeo The sad thing is that it's actually mostly true
 
Xeo
@jalf oh gawd
 
they like to think that they're an all-powerful consumer revolt, and that they represent all gamers ever
and the last part is pretty factual, but perhaps not how they would put it themselves
tl;dr: it's just about the worst thing to have hit the internet since... since the internet was invented
 
Everyone in and around this thing is an idiot
 
people should just ignore this gamergate bullshit and play wasteland 2 instead
 
Ell
I thought it was because a girl had sex in order to get good game reviews
 
3:31 PM
@Ell seriously...?
 
I'm gonna go to sleep instead
 
Ell
zoe quinn
 
I really don't want to bang my head against the wall for the next hour over that discussion, but I'll give you a tip: the review in question does not exist, and was never written
The reviewer in question never fucking reviewed her game
That alone should tell you all you need to know about how retarded gamergate is
 
Ell
yeah sounds pretty bad
 
a thinly veiled excuse to harass people out of the games industry, yay!
 
Xeo
3:34 PM
can we shut down the interweb for a day or two or something?
 
Or forever
And also the rest of the planet
 
user1804599
Great, I learned something today.
 
user1804599
ok I'm gonna buy Factorio
 
@rightfรธld finally
 
@Griwes as said, initially, BOTH var1 & var2 are declared as double. But after some calculation, var2 is shown up as scientific. So this is exactly the problem, adding what is a double with what now is shown as scientific — Just_Newbie 13 mins ago
Jesus
 
Xeo
3:35 PM
Hm, Unity supports Boo as a scripting language
 
How can a person with a brain in his head be so dumb?
 
@Ell Nah, it's about ethics in games journalism.
 
Super Important Stuff
 
fwiw, a few people here might identify with it more though. For some strange and unfathomable reason, a lot of MRA types have decided to hitch a ride on the gamergate bandwagon. Apparently they seem to think their goals coincide. Weird how that works out
 
Ell
@jalf cos MRA = Feminist
 
3:38 PM
lol no
 
Ell
in theory :L
 
@Ell O.o
it's pretty much the opposite
 
Ell
feminists and mra both want equal right for men & women right?
 
user1804599
WHAT TEH FUUUUCK
 
No
 
user1804599
3:38 PM
Why do I need to enter PIN of credit card. What is this shit.
 
user1804599
I never had to do this before.
 
Ell
@rightfรธld you don't o.O
this is very odd
@jalf oh. what do they both want?
 
anyway, can we please not get into that right now? I can't be fucked with so much stupidity
 
Ell
but yeah okay :P
Let's talk about databases instead
 
user1804599
ok, no factorio then
 
Ell
3:39 PM
@rightfรธld where does it say enter your pin?
 
@Ell There's no "both"
 
Ell
are you it's not asking for your ccv
cvv
safety number thing on the back :L
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought I did... but AFAIK we have to all agree to overrule him
 
user1804599
@Ell a page of the bank.
 
@jalf really, I thought you reveled in such useless discussions
 
user1804599
3:40 PM
@Ell I'm not a moron.
 
user1804599
It says PIN not CCV.
 
you only argued about feminism with vaclav for, what, 2 days?
 
@BartekBanachewicz what? I have a demand in my factory, I want to ensure I always meet it. I can ensure that I never have to slow down, why not?
 
3?
 
Ell
@rightføld when is your birthday?
 
user1804599
3:41 PM
Anyway.
 
user1804599
Payment too difficult => won't buy.
 
any way, home time :D
 
I'm glad you also think there's no point in them now
 
@thecoshman you can spend those resources on something else
@rightfรธld lol you suck
 
user1804599
Buy it for me and see if I suck again.
 
3:42 PM
you would suck for that game?
 
user1804599
No.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I found your next avatar :D img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aqZ61Mp_460svwm_v1.webm
 
Ell
@rightfรธld when is your birthday?
 
@Borgleader Where is the top picture from? I don't think that ever existed.
 
user1804599
@Ell 23 december why
 
Ell
3:44 PM
@rightfรธld do you want an early birthday & christmas present?
I have a spare factorio code
 
Xeo
why
 
Ell
why do I have a spare?
 
Xeo
ye
 
Ell
To give away :3
 
Xeo
lol
 
3:46 PM
I should buy another copy for my friend too
 
@AlexM. giggle
Yeah I think an avatar update is in order
 
@Xeo not sure that you can do that
prolly really expensive if you can
 
Xeo
aww
 
@AlexM. why is her mouth open
 
Xeo
I need kittens
nao
 
3:49 PM
@BartekBanachewicz she's in awe at her own beauty
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz relaxed mouth position
 
I can't help but imagine she's going to drool
 
user1804599
@Ell yes!
 
Ell
@rightfรธld I'll need to email it to you
 
user1804599
In turn I'll give you advice about C++ API databases.
 
Ell
3:50 PM
or give it you some how that isn't posting it here :v
there could be vampires lurking
 
user1804599
rightfold@gmail.com
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I love the one which is "When your dad comes home from a suicide bombing"
@rightfรธld on it's way in a sec
 
Ell
@rightfรธld done
happy early birthday/christmas!
 
user1804599
3:53 PM
Thanks! :D
 
Ell
No problemo :)
 
my code review question has 13 views and one upvote
 
Xeo
Early Non-Secret Santa?
 
talk about interest
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Your code sucks so bad, the smell alone deters people from it - except for that one fetishist, who really likes the smell.
 
3:56 PM
@BartekBanachewicz link?
 
user1804599
> Your account has been successfuly upgraded.
 
user1804599
yay
 
1
Q: Expressing computations on values as State

Bartek BanachewiczI was writing an application with a few Monads in a transformer stack. The top level application state resides in a TVar, and various components of the application operate on parts of it. I wrote a helper function to extract those parts: hoistStateWithLens :: S.MonadState outerState m => ...

@rightfรธld IRTA as "Your account has been successfully suspended."
 
user1804599
lol one L
 
I wonder who in the room pity voted
 
3:57 PM
> OpenSource
 
Ell
@BenjaminGruenbaum lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit me 2
 
@AlexM. No, I can't stand them. I just think it's kind of important to call out willful stupidity when you encounter it.
 

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