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12:00 AM
"404'ing" -> donating $404 to charity
 
In computer science, Loop tiling, also known as loop blocking, or strip mine and interchange, is a loop optimization technique used by compilers to make the execution of certain types of loops more efficient. == Overview == Loop tiling partitions a loop's iteration space into smaller chunks or blocks, so as to help ensure data used in a loop stays in the cache until it is reused. The partitioning of loop iteration space leads to partitioning of large array into smaller blocks, thus fitting accessed array elements into cache size, enhancing cache reuse and eliminating cache size requirements. An...
> strip mine and interchange
 
is that minecraft?
 
Ell
The government owes me money
 
"cache hit" -> an untrustworthy individual stole items from your cache
@StackedCrooked some people think the cache miss don't, but it do
 
12:06 AM
Once I missed cache but then it didn't.
 
@Rapptz I don't know, I don't track people's sexuality, my heart goes to all those young, underpaid dudes working at apple though ...
Oo wait, Tim cook is gay not a sexual predator
 
to those underpaid young chinese who assemble IPhones?
 
what the fuck shutterstock
who casts the models there?
 
ugh
 
His teeths are in better shape then mine
 
12:10 AM
where's Cat and his flowchart when you need him
 
Is anyone using mingw? I am not sure what is preferred way to create a thread. There are posix, pthreads, win32.. I am a bit lost
 
@StackedCrooked meh?
@StackedCrooked you could argue that for data temporal locality the first example was better
 
@nightcracker I suppose. But it is an optimization that's been helping me recently.
 
all it does is show that there are multiple metrics of locality
 
12:13 AM
@nightcracker The first example has better spatial locality iirc.
 
except they don't even mention that
@StackedCrooked spatial locality is a thing with random access memory
where you try to access things that are close
but you can have temporal locality with data just as well with code
 
@AlexV. a bit far for tim 2 lay eyes on ...
 
@nightcracker doing the data reading, processing and outputting in sequence does this
A balance would be to replace 100.times{ A(), B(), C() } with 20.times { 5.times { A(), B(), C() }}.
 
@StackedCrooked it's also temporal, because you use every output right where it was created
 
@nightcracker right
My example is pushing packets from TCP down to Ethernet.
 
12:19 AM
I'm confused?
 
I found that grouping them by 5 improved speed a lot (5-10x faster). But larger groups were slower.
 
that's more to do with buffer overflows than locality I think
 
Isn't buffer overflow a security issue?
 
not buffer overflow in the C/C++ way
but as in you force the TCP stack to flush at ill-advised times
because it has no buffer space left
 
try to avoid buffering and measure again
 
12:21 AM
writing efficient I/O is very very tricky
you often need all kinds of magical details about the OS
and figure out the right flags to massage the OS into doing efficient things
 
@nightcracker that's not it (I wrote the TCP as well)
 
I'm not certain how the ethernet stack works in (linux I presume?)
I wouldn't be surprised if you're running in some buffering somewhere
or some router dropping packets because you sent them too fast
or other myriads of reasons
I highly doubt your performance increase was because of temporal locality
 
I'm not using the linux stack. My job over the past two years has been to implement the entire stack myself.
So I know I'm not running into buffering issues.
 
do you call the network card driver directly?
 
network card is configured to send raw data (promiscuous mode)
 
12:25 AM
:( I should learn more about networking stacks
 
It's been an extremely educative project :)
 
@StackedCrooked if this was userland I could ascertain you didn't achieve better performance through temporal locality
 
Try to change all relevant numbers to 666, praise Satan and let's hope all this black magic will work.
 
@StackedCrooked but I don't know enough about this low level things to say for sure
 
@nightcracker Not really. I'm a slow learner.
 
12:26 AM
@AlexV. change your name, we already have @AlexM.
 
user1646075
I can feel a question coming on
 
@StackedCrooked what ballpark of throughputs are we talking about?
 
@aclarke so, how did the tablet quest go?
 
@nightcracker 10Gbps.On virtual in-memory network I can achieve up to 15 Gbps. On a real network I'm currently at 2Gbps due to inefficient gle.
 
(bet you didn't feel this one)
 
user1646075
12:28 AM
fortunately I have until maybe near-end january - OR - xmas present so there's no massive rush.
 
oh ok
 
user1646075
first to reseach the samsung line, and solid competitors
 
@StackedCrooked I mean measured, this is measured not estimated peak?
 
xmas is probably best, due to discounts and promo stuff
 
user1646075
I've visited some shops
 
user1646075
12:28 AM
with headphones so a salesrep doesn'y chew on my ear
 
whats your budget?
 
user1646075
broadly near the price of a mid-range ipad. It's for school requirements for Mr. 10, and i'd prefer to go android if the price/performance matches
 
@StackedCrooked assuming 3ghz CPU that's 2.4 cpb :P
 
user1646075
wtf with my network
 
idk what a mid range ipad costs but the nexus 9 looks neat
 
12:30 AM
gn. heil to Stroustrup xd
 
@nightcracker I get up to 15Gbps in virtual network (in-memory). When sending real traffic over the wire I got up to 2Gbps in my last tests. The issue is mostly an inefficient connection between two interfaces. (This is TCP traffic.)
Which causes an additional lock per packet.
 
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@Borgleader it has to be AU dollars, and it's wellknown we suffer 'distance premiums' which are complete crap these days ;-(
 
@aclarke oh, my condolences
 
what packet size are you using?
 
seems my hosting provider doesn't offer an option to stop the hosting thing in my CP
 
12:32 AM
@nightcracker 1500
 
now, unless I remember to email them about it
I guess my only option is to stop paying
 
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@Borgleader it's a scam now. When fridges came from US or Europe the distance was bigger - but, ummm, we're much closer to china and asia so wtf?
 
It's determined by the MTU of the link layer. Which is 1500 by default. If I increase it to 9000 ("jumbo frames") then I got over 30Gbps in my virtual network test.
 
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if I had to get ipad I'd either get him the Air or Mini 2
 
30gbps? that's 0.8 cpb assuming a 3ghz CPU
@StackedCrooked at that point you're looking almost at memory limits in the CPU
 
12:35 AM
cpb?
 
user1646075
for 16Gb the prices are $AU499 or $369 respectively
 
cycles per byte
 
NaN
> Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible.
Please check back again soon.
 
oops misclick
 
12:35 AM
@StackedCrooked it's a metric commonly used in crypto to benchmark throughput
 
user1646075
ooo - i see $479 for 16Gb and wi-fi only which is the requirement
 
compare the specs now :)
 
user1646075
cooool - will do
 
@StackedCrooked it's also useful because it shows you how much signal processing you can do given a certain CPU and desired bandwidth
 
you know
 
user1646075
12:37 AM
do the nexus out-grunt samsung? robustness is also a fairly important factor...
 
> Please check back again soon.
that's the biggest bullshit ever
unless "four years from now" qualifies as "soon"
it's all relative I guess
 
family friends just left after staying over for a week ... phew
 
user1646075
@AlexM. yeah - too bad you can't torrent hardware. It's only recently that australian TV has been showing shit AS it's made, rather than stacking until they feel like running it. Apparently torrenting forced their hand. Nothing beats people-power.
 
much more relaxing ...
 
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@chmod711telkitty Did you introduce them to the burcher birds/
 
12:39 AM
stuff like this comes so late to Romania I doubt even the average consumer still believes their "soon" crap
 
@aclarke Google "contracts" the making the nexus devices to other companies, it just designs them. I think the nexus 7s were made by asus. the 9 is by LG? i could be wrong, been a few weeks since i read about it
 
@aclarke indeed I did ... >_<
 
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@Borgleader oh right, i thought they were using motorola at the moment
 
we received access to the windows phone store a year and a half or so after the windows phones were released in Romania
get that, they released the hardware but blocked us from the store
sense level: Microsoft
 
user1646075
and sulphur-crested .... SCRAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKK!
 
12:40 AM
"So, could the answer to HTC's problems lie with its agreement to build the Nexus 9 for Google" Source
 
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@AlexM. how the fuck was that supposed to make any commercial sense?
 
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@Borgleader ahhhh
 
@aclarke no clue
 
@aclarke wut?
 
a smartphone without a source of apps is... not that useful
and with android and iOS as fully usable alternatives
 
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12:41 AM
@Borgleader some large white cockatoos here, with a bright yellow crest they can raise up. They make an ear-shattering noise.
 
I just couldn't see why anyone would get a windows phone w/o even store access
 
user1646075
yer classic pirates bird...
 
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user1646075
and real characters too
 
user1646075
If google did a 'google sounds' to match images, I bet it would be full of fart noises.
 
12:49 AM
Good morning.
 
user1646075
think i might have to brave an apple store (never been in one - HIGH-FIVE!) and find out what really differentiates the mini from the -2 and -3. Such a price difference.
 
So we can now truly say Tim Cook is a... macfag.
 
user1646075
morning squire
 
user1646075
@MarkGarcia boom-tish!
 
Also, Microsoft releases its fitness band. Apple marketing responded with Tim Cook's revelation.
 
user1646075
12:52 AM
dammit Hack the Web plugin for firefox can't kill off the newly fashionable magical topbar that appears on websites when you scroll more than 3 pixels down. Why do people think that screen-stealing shit is good?
 
lol poor Iran
 
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@AlexM. well, they need to vote in a non-ratbag govmint then. But seriously, yeah.
 
I tried to see if I could get an Xbox Live subscription
 
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comment: "microsoft store sucks, you dont need it." that'll make them feel better.
 
12:57 AM
I don't know if my account lists Romania as my country as it should, but so far I've been able to
 
lol. Selecting RTL text is hard (the arabic(?) ones in the comments).
 
but everything is in English, so I'm pretty sure I'll reach a dead end by using a Romanian credit card
 
user1646075
oh yeah - google hates SD cards. That's a pain in the ass. So does apple, correct?
 
anyway, my point is that IIRC, Xbox Live was never supported in Romania even though the hardware was sold
a similar story for PS3, you had to use UK gift cards in the UK store with an UK account
 
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you mean this one? "دوستان لطفا به این درخواست هم رأی بدین. برای پشتیبانی بهتر از زبان پارسیه.
 
12:58 AM
and PS4 too
 
user1646075
that was quite an adventure to select and edit into one line ;-)
 
@aclarke Aha. With the period in it, the selection mechanism goes wild.
Period is non-RTL.
 
@aclarke tbh, if I were Microsoft, I'd be more entertained by that comment than by this one
> We Love Microsoft...
It's True That Most Of Iranian Use Microsoft Windows Without Activate It ...
But ...
We Buy Microsoft Surface ...
We Buy Microsoft Xbox Too ...
We Buy Lumia With Win.Ph 8 Just For Love Microsoft ...
We Buy Other Products Of Microsoft Any Way...
 
user1646075
ohhhhh. Yah, it was around there that it went mental
 
user1646075
Suddenly the lack of SD slots makes perverse sense: "Google wants you in the cloud though, so for those who need to store a lot of data, you’ll either need to comply, or invest in a third-party solution for extra storage – perhaps a Wi-Fi hard drive."
 
1:00 AM
Because everyone has Google Fiber!
 
user1646075
i'll allocate a samba drive for him. that'll be the cloud. Android can hook into windoze shares?
 
> Please accept my request ,the legendary of the computer :" Bill Gates "
lol these people say hilarious things
 
No static way to get the size out of an std::array specialization, how sad.
 
there's a lot of people asking bill gates directly for store access
I don't think they're aware of the fact that bill gates stepped down quite some time ago
 
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@AlexM. he'd patch it together with a bit of 1985-era basic
 
1:05 AM
top kek
 
@AlexM. He's still on the board, IIRC.
 
accidently made a recursive macro in vim that fucked my entire document
(u and we're good though)
 
user1646075
ooooo - is this the world's first vim virus?
 
@MarkGarcia yeah, but that's a lot less than the power of decision he once had
wait... could it be
someone got it right
> Dear Satya Nadella,
this one is more accurate
anyway, I'm off to sleep, it's 3AM already ugh
cya
 
Sleep well.
 
user1646075
1:08 AM
ciao
 
user1646075
have the people of iran heard of Tor ?
 
They sure have heard of Terror. :P
 
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@MarkGarcia ain't that the truth. With all the b.s. you get fed, I confess to being surprised every time I see an Iranian movie on TV. The first one that I recall was about a woman owning a bookstore, having an illicit affair or something. Can't fine the name of the thing
 
@MarkGarcia have they?
 
Seriously, I don't know for sure what's really going on there. We could ask the Lounger from Iran, though he's not here.
 
1:22 AM
wooo
I'm slightly drunk
 
user1646075
@MarkGarcia the usual struggle to feed, house and clothe the family, live a life under a regime that could potentially fuck you up for being human
 
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@CatPlusPlus catnip?
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus I wish I were at least slightly drunk
I wish I was hammered actually
But I just polished off my last bottle of russian water earlier
 
I need to log my expenses tonight
Which is difficult because cash jesus fuck cash
CC transactions I get email about
 
Ell
I'm gonna have to get a drink
 
1:29 AM
Also get the fuck over here for unconference and I will drown you in alcohol
 
what kind? surely drown in vodka is so very different from doing the same in sparkling Rosé
 
Rum, whiskey, vodka, whatever the fuck you want
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus yes please
Is next unconference in Poland?
 
I don't care for UK one bit
GET THE FUCK OVER HERE
 
Ell
Sounds good to me :3
Where would people stay?
 
1:41 AM
idk there's cheap hostels to fancy hotels here
 
Oh fuck off. What do you know about unconferences?
 
I know UK sucks
 
Ell
UK doesn't suck
 
Why is dicsourse in the starboard
jesus i can't leave you for few hours
 
Ell
We have £2bn worth of prostitutes apparently
We have Yorkshire puddings
We have fish and chips
We have lots of alcohol
 
1:45 AM
FYI There are Irish pubs everywhere.
 
Ell
Irish pubs?
 
Places where you can find all of the above.
 
I don't like your government
 
Ell
I've never been to an irish pub
 
Not in Ireland.
 
Ell
1:46 AM
Or seen one
 
@MarkGarcia I would like to add that Zankyou no Terror is a great anime..
 
Ell
We have nice grass
 
But you can't eat it. (Irish people know this.)
 
Ell
Our cows beg to differ
 
@StackedCrooked Hehe. I was expecting references.
 
1:47 AM
@CatPlusPlus Just like you didn't like Berlin's.
 
No that was me being afraid to travel at all
 
Ell
We have the lake district
And the peak district
We have kendal mint cake
Can you get that anywhere?
 
Seems like some sweet you can get everywhere.
 
I've overspent a lot this month rip
I'll probably be in the red
 
Ell
Meh not really a sweet
 
1:49 AM
Well not a lot but a bit
 
Ell
More of an energy food
 
lol, most recent SO question is about how to download a .zip file using Java.
 
Ell
Lol
 
I supposed that requires a ZipDownloaderAPI.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus will you need bailing out?
 
1:50 AM
No
 
@StackedCrooked You forgot the corresponding Manager.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes okay you got me, the uk has nothing to offer :P
Let's just go to Poland ball
Ooh. We have curry houses
 
I've been to Poland once and kinda liked it.
 
We're in Schengen unlike United Korea
 
The big apartments from the communist era mixed with more modern stuff.
 
1:55 AM
@Rapptz in similar fashion, should we remove the < align flag since it's default?
 
Ell
But are there curry houses?
 
No, no one sells curry outside the UK.
 
You can get curry in Akihabara. Near the station.
 
Ell
Uk is terrible
I realise this now
I'll move to hell asap
 
Ugh last day of the month
I only did 118h
jesus fuck this chat
fucking flood control
 
2:01 AM
what are you talking about?
 
Ell
Pay day today
Let's see how much I earned
£155
Plus the government owes me moolah
 
user1646075
that's /hour, right?
 
Ell
Nop
 
Is that your monthly salary?
 
user1646075
bummer
 
Ell
2:03 AM
@StackedCrooked weekly
@aclarke its kind of /hour. Its /30hour
 
user1646075
for the delivs? that's ... too much math for me.
 
user1646075
can you keep what you can't deliver?
 
Ell
If I can't deliver something I take it back to store to share
 
user1646075
cool - so you can have a few slices while it's still hot, and keep with the spirit.
 
Ell
Yeah :)
I mean I dont need this money anyway
My parents house me and feed me
Its just extra cash and part of the deal
 
user1646075
2:07 AM
and an adventure
 
Ell
The worst thing is when your float is down
 
user1646075
so you're free to drink it all away?
 
user1646075
your what-now?
 
user1646075
the change you have to carry?
 
Ell
And you realise you'd been better off not working the past two hour s
@aclarke yeah
In reality it usually gets sorted
But it happened once for some reason I was £5 down
 
2:08 AM
You need any money you can get your hands on
 
Ell
And it just comes out of my wage
 
user1646075
@Ell maybe a dirty trick
 
user1646075
there's some classics
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus true
 
user1646075
not the one I'm thinking of, but a decent one: fraudtech.org/short_change.htm
 
Ell
2:11 AM
I'll save some. I can't drink £155 of alcohol a week :P
 
Nothing's impossible
 
Ell
But then I spend it on visiting friends
 
user1646075
@Ell top shelf stuff. 40 year old scotches
 
user1646075
@Ell, did they give you training and protocol to avoid change cons?
 
Ell
@aclarke no training but its common sense I guess
Having a pet would be fun
 
user1646075
2:17 AM
you'd think so, but I had to go over the "cigarette lighter with betty white" a few times to spot what happened: scams.wikispaces.com/Change+Rising
 
user1646075
and the ones before it.
 
Ell
Yeah
I don't really get any dodgy business though
 
user1646075
i'd be automatically suspicious of anyone who's fast talking.
 
Ell
I have to give change and that's all
Nobody switches notes and stuff
 
user1646075
the lighter trick makes the clerk forget that they've already given them $19 and THEN they scam the $20 back
 
Ell
2:25 AM
I should sleep
 
user1646075
think I'll practice these ;-)
 
Process everything with cards
Fuck cash
 
Ell
Working 11:00-19:00 tomorrow
Night folks
 
user1646075
probably will happen soon.
 
user1646075
ciao
 
2:26 AM
@Ell Good night.
 
2:36 AM
is the widen operation potentially expensive?
 
it costs 4 moms
 
user1646075
yo momma is widened
 
user1646075
yo momma so fat, she has her own unicode plane
 
user1646075
struggling?
 
what kind of moms? mummy magpies?
 
2:46 AM
A bit of a ranty answer perhaps stackoverflow.com/a/26666803/85371
> I know this is not going to sound nice, but perhaps you should stop doing this in C++.

At the very least stop trying to emulate Java. Stop writing thread-unsafe code. Stop writing memory leaks.
 
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3:06 AM
@chmod711telkitty final battle
 
@Rapptz found another bug in your implementation - you don't check if a precision parameter was found after finding an "."
 
what?
 
@Rapptz the format is ["." precision], not ["." [precision]]
 
user1646075
@sehe tough love.
 
I'm not following here.
 
3:08 AM
@Rapptz that means that if there is no integer or no "*" integer after the dot you should throw an exception
@Rapptz so in addition to throw std::runtime_error("expected positional index after *"); you should also have throw std::runtime_error("expected precision after .");
 
ic.
 
Heylo
 
3:28 AM
@Rapptz ok I think I'm done
 
@sehe He's probably thinking "YES! Sehe did my homework again."
 
lol
@nightcracker cool
 
@Rapptz feel free to let me know of bugs
@Rapptz do you still want me to open those issues for you or do you think you can compare/remember?
 
3:49 AM
open one :v
 
@Rapptz one consolidated or one per issue?
 
former
that way I can get around to it since I use the issue tracker as my todo
 
 
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5:49 AM
Whenever I miss a shot with a sci-fi weapon, I say 'Apollo retroreflector' really fast, just in case.
6
 
 
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7:21 AM
Hah! There is a .bar TLD now?
 
8:10 AM
arrghh, I have ordered so many similar items on ebay, I don't know which came from whom ...
 
morning cup cakes
pumpkin carving skills a go-go!
¬_¬ no, dropbox sucks with onebox
 
mawning
 
@VáclavZeman there's any TLD you want now, if you pay.
@TonyTheLion good or bad?
 
8:48 AM
@thecoshman average
shit I fixed yesteray was broken again this morning, sigh
had to fix, again, sigh
burgh
 
@TonyTheLion you mean it wasn't fixed :P at least, not tested properly.
 

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