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5:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds like insertion sort.
 
user1607528
@rightfold ok maybe not useless, but by coding you learn the most
 
Hmm does it?
@Muhammet [citation needed]
 
> Each iteration, insertion sort removes one element from the input data, finds the location it belongs within the sorted list, and inserts it there. It repeats until no input elements remain.
 
@BartekBanachewicz nope. he's right, books are useless, coding is ftw.
 
Please don't overgeneralize teaching
 
user1804599
5:04 PM
Please don't take sarcasm serious.
 
however asking for help is no good.
 
user1804599
Speaking of learning by coding, I am in desperate need of boyfriend.
 
user1804599
Because being alone is boring.
 
5:06 PM
You have us!
inb4 we aren't real
 
@rightfold Allove the alliteration.
 
@rightfold yeah of course you're boring
 
Being butte is boring
 
user1804599
@Abyx Pretty sure the guy I had last sex with had more fun with me than he ever had with you.
 
@rightfold what?
 
5:08 PM
you finally had sex?
 
ah whatever just go fuck yourself, thank you.
 
user1804599
My dick is not flexible enough to do that, sorry.
 
tell me all about it
 
user1804599
It's in the transcript. :v
 
@rightfold cut it and try again.
 
5:09 PM
well, not all, i'm only midly interested
 
user1804599
@Abyx lol sick
 
@rightfold lies
 
user1804599
Annelies.
 
you probably just mentioned you have sex some time ago, not the details
 
user1804599
OIC.
 
5:10 PM
I guess he just found a dildo
 
user1804599
It was kissing, fapping, pounding, fapping, cumming, kissing.
 
and as you know you have to give a report of every sexual encounter so that we can check everything..
 
user1804599
If you want more detail, I kindly refer you to IRC.
 
TMI
 
welp it's 21:10 time to go home
 
5:10 PM
just a little less information
like, where is it that guy now
 
:-D
 
how did you find him
and so on
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey Probably near his home.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey IRC.
 
IC
well fuck you then
</3
 
user1804599
5:12 PM
^3^
 
also why do i keep getting trapped in the "this sucks, there must be a better way to develop this game" spiral?
game dev is never pretty
 
Xeo
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey What game?
 
user1607528
@Jefffrey i am reading
 
the snake game of almost 2 years ago
 
5:13 PM
@Jefffrey ..because you suck at designing games?
 
@Muhammet good boy
@MartinJames that's for sure
what's interesting is that pretty much everybody suck too
to some extent
 
@Jefffrey I sucked at that too, though I didn't put all that much effort into debugging it. By the time I had classes for moving things and detecting collisions, I got bored.
Also, my snake multiplied and the ever-increasing snake population got out of control.
 
unless I use a messaging system
that would solve the problem
 
@Jefffrey Holy shit that was 2 years ago?
:psyduck:
 
1 for sure
 
5:17 PM
@Jefffrey Perfect is enemy of good or something
 
Sep 27 '13 at 0:52, by Pawnguy7
Nope. Still got to finish Snake, though I haven't touched it in a few days.
just 1 year ago calm down
 
@Jefffrey because
you don't keep the customer in mind
the best way to get out of a spiral like that
is to make the shit customers want
now be a good boy and add cutscenes, health regen and DLC
 
i'm the customer and i have no idea of what i want
 
@Jefffrey I used a plain Windows GUI, which is a messaging system / state-machine for sure.
 
user1607528
What is the best advice you were given about being a programmer and coding
 
5:22 PM
just my 2 cents: I've always found I learn best when I'm learning to accomplish another goal. I've worked on 2 startups and I learned a TON when I was trying to build my product(s)
 
@Jefffrey Don't worry, customers usually don't either.
 
ew startups
I developed games at a startup with no real hierarchy or separation of concerns
I was asked about the artistic direction of the game once
 
@Muhammet "For fucks sake stay away from that Lounge".
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and when I said that I had no idea about how the game should look
everyone was like "do you not participate in the development of this game"
jesus christ man I'm a programmer, I have no idea about whatever message the graphics send
 
@AlexM. But the graphic artists probably have something to say about the programming.
You have to reciprocate.
 
5:25 PM
nah he didn't that was what I liked about him
he was like "I don't know how this affects the programming part, maybe Alex can tell us"
 
"Shall We Dick"?
 
user1607528
@MartinJames my english is not perfect, do you mean not to sit or lie in lazy position while coding ?
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@Muhammet That too.
 
user1607528
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok got it, in meaining of chat room
 
5:28 PM

Lounge<C++>

Today we're daydreaming about C++26 reflection
 
What is going on here
 
i'm trapped in an infinite link recursion
 
@Rapptz Fuck knows.
 
mcdonald's donuts are pretty good
 
2 hours to go till 'drink to forget' time:(
 
user1804599
5:30 PM
@AlexM. they are probably shit.
 
not when you taste them
 
@AlexM. Is that 10x scale?
 
@MartinJames they're actually pretty big
 
@AlexM. You redlined my wrongometer.
 
nothing at mcdonals is big
 
5:30 PM
@AlexM. That's what she said.
 
they're tasty but I'm not sure they're worth the price
 
Proll not if you can get a box of 5 for the same price at the supermarket bakery just further on.
 
I haven't really seen donuts in supermarkets here that often
our donuts are very different
 
user1607528
 
5:32 PM
these are "traditional" donuts here
 
They look like Pfannkuchen, aka Berliners.
 
@AlexM. Yeah - that's pretty much what I expect from a donut. Fuck the chocolate etc. sprinkles - leave that to the Germans.
 
So guys, whats a good movie to watch?
 
user1607528
@Xarn edge of tomorrow :-/
 
@Xarn Beerfest
 
5:38 PM
@Xarn One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
 
user1804599
@Xarn Office Space
 
any movie about the 2nd world war, particularly about nazi germany's fall
 
user1804599
@Xarn Erlang: The Movie
 
they tend to be quite epic
 
lol
 
5:38 PM
but that may be just me
I really like movies about wars
 
@Muhammet Is that the Military Groundhog Day with Aliens thing?
 
@Xarn uni is stressful
 
@AlexM. Like Iron Sky!
 
band of brothers - 10 "movies" in a row ;-)
@R.MartinhoFernandes kinda, yes
 
speaking of movies about wars: imdb.com/title/tt0050212
well sorta about wars
 
5:39 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes but a fun movie nevertheless
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol alright that's the first time I hear of it
it has boobs so it caught my interest now
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well then go play LoL and unwind.
 
@Xarn waiting for a match :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz EUNE?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's pretty fun. I've never seen Aliens nor Military Groundhog Day.
 
5:40 PM
@ArneMertz aye
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Then quit.
 
meh ^^
 
@Puppy lolwut
Aren't there aliens in the movie?
 
sure
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes there are
 
5:41 PM
I'm confused now.
 
user1804599
@Xarn New Kids Turbo
 
the only thing to know about Edge of Tomorrow is that you get to see Tom Cruise die like a hundred times.
 
I think he meant the movie "Alien"
 
Oh, I get it. There's no Military Groundhog Day.
 
or that
 
5:42 PM
There's Groundhog Day, and this one adds military and aliens.
That's what I meant.
 
ah, well, I've never seen that.
 
@Puppy and you see him die funny ways :D
@Puppy If you're in the twenties, that movie might be ancient history for you ;-)
 
@ArneMertz I especially love the ones where he gets run over by a truck
the time on the beach and the time at the airport
 
@Puppy yep
 
So 100k means you "killed" SO. lol
 
5:47 PM
@Puppy Never seen Aliens? You mean the movie with S. Weaver or those in the Android room?
 
@MartinJames both
 
@Puppy The movie is better by far, though I suppose it will take you two days to download it.
 
> Final Fantasy XIII will soon be on Steam.
welp, that was unexpected
one more reason to get a PS4 instead of a PS3 I guess lol
 
@MartinJames Not interested.
one thing I kinda missed though is that the film only presents one aspect of the beach, i.e. the soldiers landing
I guess I missed any kind of air-to-ground or sea-to-ground fire from the human side
 
user3010322
Grraaaaaahhdahdgawdw
 
user3010322
5:57 PM
I got the GTK fontconfig, but it has the freetype-6.dll dependency hardcoded into it.
 
user3010322
So I either use the entier GTK+ win32 stack, or not at all. ._______________________________________________________________.
 
user1804599
6:09 PM
@SwiftOnSecurity Don't feel bad, we're still calling it 'BIOS' even when referring to UEFI. Old habits die hard.
 
user1804599
Beh.
 
What happens when you don't sanitize TXT records who.is/dns/jamiehankins.co.uk
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@dolan LOL
 
lol
 
6:28 PM
Why did I think that updating graphic drivers wasn't a bad idea?
 
user3010322
Because you're a sane person.
 
all greys are now pink
 
Hey everyone so It seems like there is an external API for everything, Is there any point to investing the time to build similar systems yourself ?
 
auuugh what the fuck?
 
Oh. I have to be awake at six tomorrow. Ugh.
 
6:31 PM
same here
gotta leave for Bristol at half six
 
you've got that interview tomorrow right?
 
I'm just going to the market to grab food for homeless people.
 
yep
 
first interview since you started searching for jobs IIRC, good luck
 
that's not very kind of you robot
 
6:32 PM
@Puppy Congrats on getting an interview! Where is it? (Sorry am not up to date)
 
Grats on the interview Puppy
 
1 min ago, by Puppy
gotta leave for Bristol at half six
 
I hope puppy senpai gets the job and makes the lounge proud
ganbatte puppy senpai
 
I'm pretty sure that Dolan was asking for something more specific than "Bristol" if you cared to share.
 
Nevermind
 
6:33 PM
oh
I don't, particularly :P
 
that's cool.
 
I prefer to limit my personal information that can be found online
too much already
 
Did you apply for it or did they contact you?
 
recruiter, actually.
I somehow seem to have met a competent one.
 
Well that must be a trap
 
6:38 PM
@Puppy cherish it, they're very rare
 
user1804599
Man this is so fucking nice.
 
Drivers unfucked, yes!
 
user1804599
Gotta love async/await in Traceur.
 
Also good luck puppy.
 
Try to be nice to them puppy
 
6:40 PM
lol
 
I can definitely see puppy telling his lead programmer how much he sucks at programming
 
@AlexM. Nah, he will rant how the train trip there was terrible, and people are terrible and so on... :-D
 
user1804599
6:52 PM
> Happiness is a big penis in my mouth.
 
damnit rightfold
 
@TonyTheLion Going to.
 
@rightfold btw, what happened to the guy you had sex with?
 
user1804599
He went back home.
 
aaaaaand that was it?
 
user1804599
7:00 PM
No no, I still talk to him every day.
 
user1804599
I shouldn't use Emacs and Vim at the same time.
 
bah
 
user1804599
It works well often but sometimes I get a blackout for either and everything goes wrong.
 
I was going to wear a specific pair of jeans tomorrow but broke the button.
guess that just goes to show how fat I'm getting.
 
@rightfold summer sausage?
 
user1804599
7:01 PM
@Puppy Wear stockings and a short skirt.
 
I thought you had lost a ton of weight.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Pleonasm
 
user3010322
@Rapptz But it's NOT just me! @Cinch confused it, @rightfold confused it, and others will too. new_userdata implies you're making a new userdata value, not a new "type" table.
 
new_userdata sounds like a name for an object to me (i.e. instance of something)
 
user1804599
Indeed, pretty much for the same reason class is class and not object. @Rapptz
 
7:04 PM
and it's some user data used to replace old user data
 
I'll consider it
atm I'm doing something else
like working
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a substantially lower quantity now.
I lost a lot of weight when I couldn't eat, and now that I can eat, I've been overdoing it ... considerably.
 
you never learn pups
 
you can only learn to make better choices, you can't learn to feel differently
not sure why I feel quite so compelled to stuff my face, but hey.
 
Probably bored or stress eating
 
7:10 PM
not having work definitely leaves way more time to steal out the house and stuff my face
 
well
it's hard to stop yourself from eating when you're hungry
and the more you eat the more you want to eat when you're hungry
I always tell myself "I won't eat before going to sleep anymore"
but then I get hungry
 
I had a chicken sandwich this morning. Really getting hungry now.
 
it's hard to break habits once you have them
but at least it's not increasing anymore
 
I'm such a stalker
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I'd hate to have a programmer gf
 
7:17 PM
> Gentoo
Well, snap.
 
last thing I want is someone next to me telling me my code sucks 24/24 7/7
 
@AlexM. Don't you already tell yourself that?
 
@AlexM. Why? You would both know exactly what to never talk about.
 
It's not like it would be any different if someone else did it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel it annoys me less when I tell myself
@MartinJames in my experience that was never the case
a girl in my class was actually interested in me from what I've seen and heard
but her idea of impressing me was along the lines of telling me how to solve problems better and how awesome she is
which is the last thing I want to hear
 
7:19 PM
@AlexM. I didn't end up with a developer wife, I got a Man U supporter instead, (yes, I was drunk again).
 
call me sexist but... I'd really like a housewife >.>
 
@AlexM. I'm in the house. Anne is down the club, playing darts and drinking Carling. Something is wrong here.
 
Man.
I sneezed so hard I hurt my neck.
Ow.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It'll be gone in an hour or you're stuck with it for three weeks. I hate neck injuries.
 
technically a housewife would fill up all of the jobs I can't cover properly by myself, so from this POV, it's the optimal solution
 
7:23 PM
Twas a good sneeze, save for the neck pain.
 
@MartinJames are you a housewife for hire by chance?
 
@AlexM. No. I can do most housework except ironing, but I already have a contract here, thanks.
 
I'm actually good at ironing! it was interesting when I found out
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If I sneeze in the club music room, the sound level detector/alarm flashes.
@AlexM. Still no.
 
damn
okay
 
7:30 PM
"Write a simple Macro" no you do it. — Borgleader 26 secs ago
 
user3010322
#define FLEXIBLE_ARRAY_MEMBER 1
 
user3010322
... Well.
 
user3010322
People weren't even standard in how they used their C back in the day. =/
 
user3010322
Jesus christ, even the sources from GTK+ for windows can't compile under VC++.
 
user3010322
No Inline, but fuck if they make anything else easy.
 
user3010322
7:35 PM
.. dirent.h... there's a Windows port of that, for sure..
 
user3010322
Man. C code is horrific.
 
user3010322
Who knew not having any kind of standard could fuck so many people over.
 
Guess where I am.
 
user3010322
Clothesle- oh.
 
user3010322
Uh, a remote part somewhere next to your bike?
 
7:37 PM
Dunno.
I'm out to retrieve my bicycle, though.
Oooh, found the place.
 
user3010322
OH, COOL
 
user3010322
IT DOESN'T PICK ASCII OR WIDE CHARACTERS FOR ITS STRING TYPES
 
user3010322
SO IT JUST BREAKS IN MSVC BY DEFAULT
 
user3010322
COOL
 
user3010322
Man, fuck these libraries.
 
user3010322
7:39 PM
Fuck them and all their bullshit.
 
user3010322
And fuck MSVC too.
 
when you initialise something with
 
user3010322
Couldn't just use UTF8 and not be retarded.
 
stuff x = { f(), g(), h() };
is the function call order guaranteed?
 
user3010322
There is no guarnateed order.
 
user3010322
7:40 PM
I could have sworn there was no ordering between them.
 
No semicolons, I suppose.
 
user3010322
Oh it's all commas.
 
shush
 
user1804599
% pip install babel --force-reinstall
Requirement already satisfied
 
user1804599
WTF
 
7:40 PM
Yes, it's guaranteed.
 
f, then g, then h?
cause it's causing some code smell
:(
 
Depending on the order is ugly anyway.
 
Well I split it up to multiple lines
 
user3010322
I think I'm... going to ignore fontconfig.
 
user3010322
I wonder if there's any other library like fontconfig...
 
7:53 PM
why is fontconfig necessary again?
 
@AlexM. Nerd socialization basically
 
yeah I don't like that
 
I might be drunk
it took me soome time to log in therer...
 
@thecoshman Don't be.
 
:)
@Nooble or eight so
I think's it be soe time sine I be this drunk on here
who's oun?
 
7:58 PM
this reminds me, I have a beer
gotta drink it
 
Also its not really bad to have programmer GF.
 
@AlexM. Yes.
 
As long as both of you aren't complete spergs.
 
did I misss anything importanti?
 
@Xarn my best friend is also a programmer but most of the time we talk about random jokes and funny news we see on the internet and games
almost never about programming
 
7:59 PM
Congratulations, you have unlocked the secret of conversation.
 
my fingers learnt a lessong to nithght, don;t try to stub out fags, they br hot
 

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