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6:00 PM
SharpGL does some stupid things, like trying to be ~~helpful~~ by setting initial state with deprecated functions inside the control
Also plugging in external context is semibroken
 
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Damn.
 
And very Windows specific
 
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I was hoping it'd be nice...
 
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Wanted to learn more OpenGL in a C# context.
 
You can probably fork it and remove all the annoying things and mostly just use the bindings
 
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6:01 PM
Hoping that SharpGL was something like SHarpDX.
 
Btw, does anyone know what the precise Herb/Scott dispute about parameter passing is?
 
they're probably both wrong
oh yeah this is in poor taste but independence day every year is fine
stfu yanks
also, lol?
 
ugh, people making screenshots of Notepad and adding text to them in Paint.
 
... then saving the result as .cpp
 
6:32 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't really see why it's offending.
It happened 200 years ago. It's just a history trivia.
Nothing to get emotional about.
 
exactly
it's offensive to say it's offensive
Yanks have this "only we can do that" mentality
(includes blowing up buildings and murdering civilians)
 
preheating the oven for pizza takes 2x as long as baking the pizza itself
I HATE THAT
 
First world problem.
 
25 minutes of preheating + 14 minutes = 39 fucking minutes
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked ?
 
6:38 PM
Man, quitting drinking is so much harder than quitting smoking. I'd kill for a couple of ales right about now, whereas frankly I couldn't give two fucks that my last cig was four days and one hour ago.
 
@StackedCrooked precisely, the US is still a teenage nation... with all the pimples and moodiness to go with it.
 
@Xeo codename of Grisaia's protagonist.
 
Xeo
ah
right
 
/cc @MartinJames
@StackedCrooked 25 minutes of preheating? lol
@Mgetz spot on
 
Belgium is even younger (1830).
 
6:39 PM
@StackedCrooked Belgium is the kid who's not sure what the heck he wants to do
 
Belgium isn't quite sure of his sexual orientation yet.
 
in contrast to scotland... which is the kid that keeps threatening to call CPS on his parents
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 25 mins? What sort of hopeless oven is that? I give it five minutes, then the pizza goes onto the tray. If the pizza is frozen, I don't preheat at all.
 
I'm fastidious about preheating nowadays, but only because the interface for the oven in this house is sort of wired for it. i.e. it's hard to set a proper timer without seeing preheating through to the end.
in the old days I don't think I ever preheated
 
I need to preheat to 250C according to the instructions on the (frozen) pizza carton. It's an electrical oven and this takes ~25 minutes.
 
6:43 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sounds like a breville
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Don't preheat, just put it in
 
Microwaving would be much faster. But that's not as tasty.
 
Xeo
frozen pizza is really nicely done if you put it in while the oven is heating up
 
@Xeo she said?
@Xeo I should try that then.
 
6:45 PM
@Xeo Yeah - that's what I do. The pizza thaws as the oven warms up.
 
So how long does it stay in the oven then?
 
Just preheat it and everything will be fine
 
Xeo
I give it... 20 mins total, I think? You'll have to experiment. Maybe 'twas 15.
 
you're already loosing time arguing about it
 
@StackedCrooked Longer
 
6:46 PM
@StackedCrooked 15-20 min
 
Just check if it's edible after some time
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Ugh, microwave pizza. That's just swimming in fat :/
 
@Xeo starting with a cold oven, 15 minutes is certainly not enough for a frozen pizza. at least with my oven
 
Xeo
Right. Give it 25 then.
 
I put in the pizza, oven on then goto office and set my test-timer for 15 min.
 
Xeo
6:47 PM
or just check regularly
 
I guess I should have my oven timer in the kitchen, but it's more useful for timing my software:)
 
@Xeo except hot pockets
 
Xeo
... now I have to imagine.
"So yeah, I'm timing my pizza by running my test suit, that takes about as long as my pizza needs to get done."
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I do them in the toaster:)
 
Xeo
And then he gets a computer upgrade
 
6:49 PM
@MartinJames you're not scared that they might blow up and cheese will fill your toaster
 
@Xeo I hope not - my load/soak tests take two days minimum:)
 
Xeo
@MartinJames Here's a fun trick: Lay the toaster on its side, put some American cheese on some toast slices (the ones that melt nicely) and put them into the toaster.
 
@Xeo Hmm... nah :)
 
Xeo
preferrably with something between the toast slice and cheese
@MartinJames It's great
 
xeo is clearly a chief
 
6:50 PM
My toaster is always on the side
 
@Xeo or just get a toaster oven
 
@Xeo I have a halogen oven if I want to do toasted cheese:)
 
What the hell sort of pizza needs >230ºC!?!? — Lightness Races in Orbit 15 mins ago
 
Xeo
@SamDeHaan Pff, who needs that fancy shiz!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Pepperoni, onion and carbon.
At 230C you could use a multimeter: "10k or less across the diameter and it's done".
 
6:56 PM
@Xeo You're gonna break it.
 
Xeo
Not so far
 
Also, whenever you prefix something with "American", it means said thing is a crappier version of an existing product.
 
@Xeo Sounds more like a smoke-alarm test than a viable cooking trchnique:)
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel dunno, I just checked what dict.cc says for "Scheibletten"
 
6:58 PM
What does dict.h say
 
@EtiennedeMartel American American.
KABOOM
 
Infinitely crappy
 
@Xeo That looks like that cheese that's been so processed it now more closely resembles plastic.
 
@Xeo 'round here we say "fromage orange". Although I prefer "fromage cheap".
 
6:59 PM
compile-strings using variadics & lambdas
 
i cant wait for all the stupid libraries using this
> I've been searching for a way to do this to implement compile-time strings in Boost.Hana[1].
Of course
 
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Out of curiosity...
 
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What do compile-time strings buy you?
 
they should just lift the constexpr restrictions on dynamic mem allocs
 
0.455l of milk
 
7:01 PM
@EtiennedeMartel 'fromage flourescent'. It's been know to explode under UV light.
 
Xeo
lol
 
Terrorists use it when they can't get Semtex or C4.
 
Semcheese
 
cheese4
 
Why get your hands dirty mixing anfo when there's a supermarket opposite your target?
:| star anyway..
 
7:04 PM
AWFUL
-5/10
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah but there are no negative stars:(
 
ruined
 
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There should be negative stars.
 
user3010322
They should appear like dirty blue.
 
user3010322
7:05 PM
A mark of shame.
 
That's what stars are for
And the topic
 
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A mark of even more shame.
 
See topic
 
@Xeo whatever happened to that proposal of yours? did it get presented/voted at some meeting?
 
@ThePhD black holes maybe?
 
Xeo
7:06 PM
@TemplateRex Lost in the aether or something
Dunno, don't care anymore.
 
Wait, deleted messages with stars stay on the starboard?
ah, not after F5
 
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@TemplateRex Nobody could make it to a C++ meeting to defend it. :c
 
@Xeo did you find a champion/presenter for it, or was it just part of a big fat mailing and got lost that way?
 
Xeo
Neither. The paper was forgotten about (on accident) during the Bristol meeting, and I never felt like really touching it again
I've been out of touch with C++ standardisation for a while now too
 
Also, why have I got four rows of avatars above my starboard? There is only room for one Cat post on my SB:(
 
7:09 PM
@Xeo I think I read a blog post somewhere where it was shown that it could be implemented using generic lambdas
 
Xeo
With generic lambdas, it's mostly a simple macro
still annoying
and no proper operator support
 
> Ran 9 tests in 1.342s FAILED (errors=9)
that went well
 
@Jefffrey Could be worse....actually, no.
 
Xeo
Could be (errors=11)
 
It could have crashed or hung forever :)
> Ran 9 tests in 0.666s FAILED (errors=whatthefuckareyoudoing)
 
7:14 PM
It did crash
9 times
That's what 'error' means :v
 
> Running 9 tests...
> Segmentation Fault (core dumped.)
 
@OmnipotentEntity make test 2>&1 | sed 's/core/boyfriend/g'
He tried to access my privates but he had no permission to do so.
 
@Bartek can you tell me if I'm clear on stackoverflow.com/questions/25492550/… ?
haha, I just realized I posted a link to a jQuery question in the lounge. waits to be scolded - in my defense it's about typing.
 
@OmnipotentEntity Nah - segfaults/AV are easy, (as long as not intermittent).
..like chat is ATM.
 
ok fine then
> Running 9 test...
> Logging into Nuclear Silo
 
Xeo
7:24 PM
Whenever you show up, you make me want to start coding
 
> Cracking Launch Codes
> Target LA
 
@OmnipotentEntity Why bother - the Bay area is shaking already.
 
I thought that was SF, not LA
 
@MartinJames Those of us down south here are feeling left out...
 
@OmnipotentEntity Maybe I'm wrong... OK, retarget LA.
 
7:26 PM
hello
 
@Rapptz Hello.
 
Main site is now wobbly..
 
> Stack Exchange is currently offline, we'll be back shortly!
bs
 
@Rapptz Hi there
 
LO Rapper
 
7:27 PM
Heyo.
 
I really love Twilight Sparkle. She is my love and my everything. But the problem is she is a princess, and I am a communist.
 
@Mysticial Hmm...and far enough offline (so to speak) that it doesn't even give the usual error message either.
 
It's been a bit 'off' for the last hour or so.
I'll have to fall back on that Alexandria Morgan YT.
 
@MartinJames She will comfort you through this time of trial and tribulation.
 
And it's back...
 
7:36 PM
@Mysticial But, that probably won't last too long. To quote Tim Taylor, "If it ain't broke, you can usually fix it 'til it is."
 
A minor firewall change had some very ill effects, we have reverted and are digging into the issue.
 
new smash bros leak
thanks for shitting on my dreams Sakurai
RIP
:(
 
> i would prefer to be banned then to feel so lost and confused. To know that i tried
I feel bad for him.
 
You suck.
 
I'm soft like that.
 
Ell
7:49 PM
I'm back
 
Hey @Puppy, what do you think about this image representing national pride?
 
Didn't NASA use metric in that mission
 
inb4 "Fuck it."
 
@MartinJames huh really? never noticed
@CatPlusPlus No.
> "The Shuttle and US segments of the ISS were built using the English system of measurements," says NASA spokesman Grey Hautaluoma. "And much of the Ares launch vehicle and Kennedy Space Center ground systems are legacy hardware built in the English system, too."
Woah, nice cop-out. Forget that England has used metric for fucking ages, why don't you.
TIL "Imperial system" is "English system" in the USA??!?!?!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There are two kinds of countries. Those that use the metric system, and those who lost lost $125 million because they didn't.
 
7:52 PM
When in doubt blame English
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Was it Mars Climate Orbiter that died because of imperial system? ;-)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
So much for imperial system...
Nah, in seriousness its just important to remember to be consistent
 
7:55 PM
> However, on September 23, 1999, communication with the spacecraft was lost as the spacecraft went into orbital insertion, due to ground-based computer software which produced output in non-SI units of pound-seconds (lbf×s) instead of the metric units of newton-seconds (N×s) specified in the contract between NASA and Lockheed. The spacecraft encountered Mars on a trajectory that brought it too close to the planet, causing it to pass through the upper atmosphere and disintegrate.[1][2]
Fucking idiots.
 
You know, not like having 4 kinds of fucking pint.
 
> The primary cause of this discrepancy was that one piece of ground software produced results in an "English system" unit, while a second system that used those results expected them to be in metric units.
 
NASA was and probably still is bad at its job.
 
Thanks, Wikipedia. So this is widespread. BEGINS CRUSADE
 
Hopefully Feynman's grilling helped.
 

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