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11:00 PM
 
That's a decent amount of snow.
 
The first official, mobile Stack Exchange app, for Android, is here! http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2014/01/stack-exchange-for-android-is-here/ (iPhone version soon). http://t.co/h0WCQsBFxk
 
@BartekBanachewicz repostiez
 
lol no chat
 
Chat really feels like the pet project of a guy who has since left the company.
3
 
11:03 PM
Huh. Clang++ complains about a defaulted copy constructor saying that it has been implicitly deleted. But when I replace the default by its trivial implementation, initialising all members uniformly, it compiles
clang++ bug or Konrad bug?
 
Xeo
likely a konrad bug, but you never know. coliru link?
 
damn you, forcing me to create a MWE …
 
I just imagined a lounge whatsapp group
 
@KonradRudolph Sometimes the result of defaulting is deleting. True story.
 
@Jefffrey whatswhatsapp?
 
11:13 PM
Wooo new Resharper++ build :D
 
Great, of course I don’t get an MWE running
 
@BartekBanachewicz hehe
 
@KonradRudolph Perhaps 12.8/11 can help you figuring out what's going on?
 
downloaded that app
 
okay, bear with me please
 
11:16 PM
it's pretty good
I guess. Needs chat.
 
It is cold
 
This is the error I’m getting:
include/value.hpp:77:5: note: explicitly defaulted function was implicitly deleted here
    callable(callable const& other) = default;
 
what's the class look like?
 
… in a class which has literally this code (and no other members):
 
Yes, that’s a typical message.
 
11:17 PM
 callable(callable const& other) = default;

 environment& parent;
 std::vector<std::string> formals;
 function_type lambda;
and if I change that line to this it compiles:
 
It’s likely that function_type is triggering deletion.
 
callable(callable const& other) :
    parent{other.parent},
    formals{other.formals},
    lambda{other.lambda} {}
 
@Borgleader Does it work with VS2013?
 
oh sorry, stupid typedefs:
using function_type = std::function<symbol(environment&, iterator, iterator)>;
 
@AndyProwl I had a checkbox for it yeah. It's still installing though.
 
11:18 PM
No base?
 
No base
 
how's environment look like?
looks like the culprit
 
Can you try defaulting the move constructor as well?
 
does it matter? It’s a reference
 
Xeo
it's a reference
 
11:19 PM
oh
 
@LucDanton No, due to the environment&
 
didn't see that &
 
Last resort, don’t declare anything. As far as copy/move goes.
 
I’m still trying to get an MWE working, but just copying this class (and all that are needed to (copy)construct it does not exhibit the error
 
@CatPlusPlus the chat or the environment
??
 
11:21 PM
We may be looking at the wrong place though. Are there other classes which have callable as a base/member that declare a copy/move special member?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Wasn't it made by balpha?
 
@LucDanton That works too
 
@Rapptz Maybe.
 
@KonradRudolph That’s a good sign. I cannot tell you if user-declaring warrants or not the behaviour you have seen though.
 
I've restarted Firefox and now it has hard time rendering pages
 
11:22 PM
@LucDanton No. However, callable is actually a template: template <call_type C> struct callable – with call_type being an enum class. Albeit no specialisations of the template.
 
In fact, one window is broken
 
Those rules are a moving target and it’s too much work to keep track of everything. If recent enough, I trust the compiler.
 
Hmm. Okay. Clang 3.4 for the record
anyway, I’ll keep trying to generate an MWE but since the code now works without any copycon declared I’ll move on for a bit
thanks
 
did you try gcc?
 
@Rapptz No, because he is an enemy of Freedom.
 
11:25 PM
Why are browsers so consistently terrible
 
Ell
I don't understand why people think GCC is not free
 
prelude.ls is the recommended base library when using LiveScript. It allows you to do things such as:
[1 2 3] |> map (* 2) |> filter (> 3) |> fold1 (+)
 
Because copyleft is restrictive
 
@Rapptz Just now. Similar error. Which screams at me that I’m indeed doing something wrong.
 
hey that's actually pretty interesting
 
11:25 PM
/usr/local/include/boost/variant/recursive_wrapper.hpp:129:55: note: synthesized method 'klmr::lisp::callable<C>::callable(const klmr::lisp::callable<C>&) [with klmr::lisp::call_type C = (klmr::lisp::call_type)1]' first required here
 
@rightfold thoughts on LiveScript ASAP
 
@Ell If I force you to be free, does that make you free?
 
Wrong error.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes
Was that supposed to be 2deep4me?
 
Not really, because you lose freedom of choice
 
11:27 PM
Okay, g++ only has another problem with my code – it doesn’t like that I brace-initialise reference member variables …
 
@Rapptz I can be too deep for you.
 
@KonradRudolph Haha, recursive_wrapper? ‘Fun’!
 
@LucDanton It’s an interpreter. – Of course.
 
oh there's that Roy language
> Arrays are homogeneous,
I like it already
 
Arrays are usually homogeneous
 
11:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus we're talking javascript here
anyway..
 
@Rapptz What if I don't want to be free?
 
Try to replace JavaScript in the browser with another language
Try to replace JavaScript in the browser with a general purpose bytecode
Change the JavaScript standard
Compile from another language to JavaScript
I vote 2.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Option 4 is the most viable right now.
 
But too little people vote 2 to make it happen.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Then through a paradoxical definition, you're free to not be free.
 
11:30 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I agree. That's why I am working on that Haste plugin
 
@KonradRudolph Are you using recursive_wrapper itself, or is that a result of e.g. recursive_variant?
 
this bytecode thingy would be much easier than fucking js
look how small could browser engines be
 
@Rapptz It's actually a trick question. The word "free" here has two different meanings: the first one is the one intended by the FSF (i.e. free to think what they want you to think) and the second one is the one most people understand.
 
@LucDanton Itself, but inside a boost::variant’s template argument list – otherwise I’d use a std::unique_ptr
 
The word "free" in "free software" doesn't really mean what you think it means.
 
11:32 PM
or something like the wheels::value_ptr
 
Ell
@bartek who do you talk to to change the situation?
 
@Ell using which solution?
 
Ell
to vote 2, who is one supposed to vocalise with?
the w3c?
 
the giants, mostly.
also
> I was wondering how things are going from your side and if you'd be interested in exploring permanent job opportunities for 2014 with Google at this time?
 
@BartekBanachewicz GO FOR IT.
Google is love. Google is life.
Google is everything that is nice.
 
11:38 PM
lol wat
 
@BartekBanachewicz Gratz! I'm still waiting on actual feedback from Ubisoft. =/
He told me he might have something, and then nothing :(
And Bioware has no programming jobs open at this time, neither does Eidos
 
@Borgleader you can always make coffee
 
Heh
 
Blizzard has a bunch of openings available for Hearthstone
 
11:49 PM
@TonyTheLion That gif was reposted on imgur at least 10 times in this shorter than a year time I use it.
 
> in this less than a year time I use it.
 
I hope it is a tiny bit better now.
My brain is asleep already.
 
how about "10 times since I used it, less than a year ago."
 
No no no
I started using it less than a year ago.
And since then, it was reposted at least 10 times.
 
Xeo
(it == imgur)
 
11:52 PM
First it, yes.
 
@Griwes Welcome to the Internet.
I hope you find yourself at home :)
 
I am pretty sure this was mostly what my original message meant.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You've been using Resharper for a while yes?
 
@Borgleader About two years. I can no longer do C# without it.
 
Does it have more than one theme for code highlighting?
 
11:55 PM
...
 
No idea, I just stick to VS' defaults when it comes to code highlighting because I have a healthy sex life.
 
@sehe Don't judge me :(
 
I don't think R# is about code hightlighting.
:)
 
It's about handling some of C#'s boilerplate for you.
 
@sehe Well of course not. But I was just wondering =/
 
11:57 PM
oh also apparently i am in hearthstone
 
@BartekBanachewicz Open beta is up.
I was in the closed beta /hipsterism
 
> You now have access to the Hearthstone Closed Beta
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, right, open beta is only in North America.
Looks like you got access a few weeks early, then.
 
@EtiennedeMartel So was I, you're not special :P
 
Yeah, but at least I don't mess with syntax highlighting.
 

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