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2:00 PM
@thecoshman Ah, I see. Sorry.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes \o/
 
oh hey I set my alarm clock to 15 and forgot about it
 
@sehe Microsoft's IE 11 installer said the installation cannot complete because I have a newer version installed
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun so, yes
 
I don't wanna waste all these words, though, so I'll salvage them and put them up somewhere.
 
2:03 PM
Ahaha finally got to the file that I got invite to
File > Download > FORBIDDEN
Good job, Google
 
Blurgh my .NET service reference don't update
 
still ... poor cat, has been tormented by the same thing for a whole day ...
and still can not solve it
 
Does gcc 4.8 have problems forwarding empty parameter packs? This compiles using clang 3.3 and gcc 4.9 but not with 4.8 : coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/8a8b4af5816bee9d
Something to do with the lambda and capturing I think.
 
lemme check this: WOW. Listary TextEditor Anywhere is pretty sweet. I get to use vim on windows smoothly in any text area. That includes chat messages /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@bamboon Looks like it has a general problem with packs in lambdas, not only with empty parameter packs.
 
2:14 PM
Just discovered, so disclaimers apply
 
@Griwes Oh indeed. Only tested with empty ones.
 
no debugging yet, but does the following ring any immediate bells?
[tomalak@cat gui]$ g++ -O0 -g -I../MPFDParser-1.1.1 ../MPFDParser-1.1.1/*.cpp -static -o ../MPFDParser-1.1.1/MPFDParser-1.a
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lm
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
Stop pinging me with your prompt
3
 
Also check your paths
 
2:18 PM
I never asked for -lm
 
Why is your output .a
It's implicit
 
@CatPlusPlus Why not?
@CatPlusPlus From multiple source files? That's clever
 
No, I mean -lm
But I don't think that creates an object archive
In fact I'm pretty sure it doesn't
It just links an executable with .a extension
 
Oh, I'm thinking of ar, aren't I
 
2:19 PM
Presumably, then, -lm is some internal triggered by -o, that's not available due to my -static
That'll do; thanks
 
libm and libc are both linked in implicitly with g++
 
Still surprised it's not found
maybe it's searching for a static version that doesn't exist
 
ok, I am freaking mad (at my own incompetence ...)
the useless anti-viruses still could not find any problem
but some wrong is terribly wrong
2
the firefox kept on shut itself down
and my torrent program got mysteriously deleted
maybe I really should re-format my machine
going back to the formatting every month rhythm
 
monthly period
 
@sehe o_0
 
2:29 PM
@sehe ..... ( = 5 months )
 
@sudorm-rfTelkitty did you maybe use windows' disk cleanup thing?
 
which one?
 
disk > properties > cleanup
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes want to squash latest two commits together, help please :)
 
@thecoshman git rebase -i HEAD^2?
 
2:32 PM
@melak47 trying it ...
 
you can square a commit?
 
@sudorm-rfTelkitty NO! I asked if you used it, not TO use it!
 
@DeadMG ^n mean the n-parent.
 
was going to ask how would that help
 
2:33 PM
kk
 
ITT TelKitty hasn't gotten around to asking her flatmate whether she's been using the PC
 
@sudorm-rfTelkitty it wouldn't, last time I used it I left the wrong option on and it deleted random .exe files because it figured I didn't use them >_>
 
running another full system scan
 
fatal: Needed a single revision
invalid upstream HEAD^2
 
@thecoshman How many commits do you have?
 
2:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what do you mean?
many vOV
 
More than two?
Did you have a recent merge?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, but the HEAD^" is directly from just HEAD^3 that is a the closes merge
 
In any case, manually obtaining the hash of the latest commit before the ones you want to squash should do.
 
wait... is it HEAD, then HEAD^1 or then HEAD^2
the short harsh will work right
 
HEAD (current), HEAD^1 (parent), HEAD^2 (grandparent)
@thecoshman Yes.
 
2:39 PM
there we go
thanks man :D
 
Dunno why HEAD^2 didn't work, though. I do that sort of thing all the time.
 
phf, what chump uses Google when you have robot power :D
yes, this is exactly like helping set up your parents computer, you are forever there computer slave.
 
Oh wait.
Got the notations mixed up. HEAD^n is the nth parent. HEAD~n is the n-parent.
Subtly different.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes HEAD~2 is grandparent (this HEAD^^)
 
I.e. if you just did a merge of two branches, that merge has two parents: HEAD^1 and HEAD^2.
@sehe Yeah.
 
2:42 PM
wokay :/
 
oh, I was going to ask if it was a ^ vs ~ thing
 
Yeah, twas :)
 
oh that's amazing
 
so HEAD^n is always one of your direct parents
 
2:43 PM
in binary encoding registers go as follows: A, C, D, B
yes that makes perfect fucking sense
 
There are hysterical raisins.
 
I don't like raisins :(
 
I don't like registers
 
I don't like your mum.
 
:O
 
2:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Accumulator, Counter, more accumulatorD, Base. I.e. the names are only the first four letters of the alphabet by coincidence.
I am not aware of a reason for D, but there might be one.
 
Wokay. Gotcha no. 1, after switching tabs in chrome, TEA happily wrote my wiki article into the chat message box
 
TEA?
 
33 mins ago, by sehe
lemme check this: WOW. Listary TextEditor Anywhere is pretty sweet. I get to use vim on windows smoothly in any text area. That includes chat messages /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, totally "more accumulatorD" makes sense
 
:'( this merge base point is so far back
@TonyTheLion I like you rum :D
 
2:47 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I suppose they picked D because it was simply the next free letter.
 
@sehe lol wat
 
@BartekBanachewicz I actually wanted this for a long long long long long time
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the part that really boggles me is why they didn't just call them "Acummulator, Counter, AccumAux and Base"
essentially turning the assembly into barely readable character mashup
it's a fucking text format god damn it
 
It's an extension of the accumulator, not the counter.
(Well, it's neither as they are all general purpose, but at least that was the original intention)
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Ohssnyb ohssnyb Ohssnyb ohssnyb ohssnyb ohssnyb Ohssnyb ohssnyb [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-helpdesk] [no-horns] [no-questions] [no-rot13]
 
2:50 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes sigh
anyway this all doesn't matter much because I have to code in binary
 
rot13?
 
@TonyTheLion buffalo.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It doesn't really help much.
Something like r0, r1, r2, r3 would have been better.
 
that's what other archs do actually
 
> If the stars had a sound, it would sound like this.
 
2:57 PM
if stars had sound it'd be pretty damn loud
also my bonus for this half of the year was 50% of my paycheck
how friggin awesome is that
 
Well, I used to be happy with my 10%
Now I'm not
 
50% is not that impressive when you only get paid £100 per year
 
@BartekBanachewicz 50% of your yearly paycheck?
 
3:01 PM
@sehe lol nope, monthly
 
Oh
 
well I have like 70-90% funds for my motorbike
 
Oh, I took sehe's interpretation too. Still awesome, not as madbro
 
I no longer have a bonus since I switched jobs. I shall have a look into buying options :/
 
3:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Oh
 
damn it I wish the winter was over already
 
It just started!
 
OTOH if I will able to gather more funds it means a better machine
 
As you said "this half of the year", presumably you get it twice, in which case it's about the same as mine :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Thanks for calling me out on this one. I will transfer the answer to "community wiki", hoping that someone with more up-to-date knowledge will update it to reflect the current state of the art. — Jørn Schou-Rode 20 mins ago
what a nice guy.
@R.MartinhoFernandes no! :(
 
3:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was snowboarding before December so.... nope
 
You can snowboard in summer.
 
That sounds unpleasant
 
Temperatures fell down to subzero this past week
I don't like it
 
Real snow is much nicer to fall on
 
3:06 PM
The climatic snow line is the point above which snow and ice cover the ground throughout the year. The actual snow line may seasonally be significantly lower. The interplay of altitude and latitude affects the precise placement of the snow line at a particular location. At or near the equator, it is typically situated at approximately 4,500 meters (or about 15,000 feet) above sea level. As one moves towards the Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn, the parameter at first increases: in the Himalayas the permanent snow line can be as high as 5,700 metres (18,700 feet), whilst on the...
 
sub-fucking-cold is what concerns me
 
Le sigh. I, personally, cannot snowboard in summer, due to lack of proximity to any areas above the snow line
 
@BartekBanachewicz Trying to give registers some implicit meaning is dumb and better left to macros
 
1000011 1 11 000 011
 
3:08 PM
Also mnemonics are short because they were invented before macros
When you had to type this shit over and over and over again
 
Today's trivia: How many chocolate croissant boxes does it take to make a stack from floor to desk level? Answer: 54. The pizza box stack is not there yet.
 
you're overdoing procrastination
 
@MartinJames Does Anne ever enter your office?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes She doesn't. She phones me up and I come out:)
 
That explains why you still live.
 
3:15 PM
hmm
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Heh - I only counted the croissant boxes because I was taking them to the recycler - I am making at least a minimal effort to clean up in here.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lmao
 
if I decide to implement x + y as T(x) += y, presumably, this would only actually be legal for some subset of Ts, not just any old T that's copyable and add-assignable.
 
Anne is convinced that I am growing some sort of tentacle-monster under the benches. I've told her that the mass of cables is entirely benign, but she says she's heard them slithering about at night.
 
3:31 PM
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Q: Bash metaprogramming

ThorX89I have a script that takes commands (for the script, not for bash) as arguments. It treats the two invocations below the same: $ ./my_script -f 'cmd1','cmd2','cmd3' #etc $ ./my_script -f 'cnd1' -f 'cmd2' -f'cmd3' #etc A frequent use case for the script would have it take commands of the same ...

 
damn
2
 
So some how the definition of mug was under question... one of the chaps debating was called Barry.
 
every time I try to fix something in Wide, it seems like to finish it, I'll have to fix something else, and to finish that I'll have to fix something else, and then I'll have to fix even more stuff and implement a dozen new features before it actually works.
 
weir
 
@DeadMG I'm sorry, did someone tell you that it would be easy?
and I would offer to help, but I have neither the knowledge nor interest.
 
3:34 PM
@DeadMG sound like (no offense) your work planning is broken.
 
btw, @thecosh, $ git rebase -i origin/devel is a favourite of mine.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes o_0
 
I think you could try visualize dependencies between components more.
 
@thecoshman Starts an interactive rebase with everything I haven't pushed yet. (replace devel with your favourite branch)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is that cherrypicking stuff from development? is it an inside joke? ok
 
3:35 PM
@DeadMG what exactly is the news, here? That devs are always optimistic? That plannings are easily underestimated, much like impact of changes? That Hofstadter's law applies, even if it was already taken into account?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah, I thought it might be. nice, though I do not trust this machine, so I tend to push all my commits fairly quickly.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds like you could be more honest about your own projects :|
 
@sehe my projects are total and unincomprehensible mess that are poorly planned, have little to no documentation, i am too lazy to use proper workflows, I write terrible code and the effects are lame.
there.
 
Woot for lame effects. I'd like to have lame effects.
 
@DeadMG on a serious note, is it not worth sort of taking what you know now, and more or less starting over. If you are constantly trying to push in one problem for another pop up?
 
3:38 PM
@sehe effects as in from end-user perspective. Minicraft just displayed a bunch of cubes. Quadtree just displayed a bunch of rays and was slow as heck. Harvest is barely functioning at all.
 
well
I think it could be more accurately stated as, "I didn't realize how much of my existing code was terribly broken" :P
 
The fact I moved to web was a direct consequence of wanting to have more... pronounced results.
Something that speaks more to someone who didn't read the code/skimmed trough it.
 
@DeadMG maybe starting over wouldn't be such a mistake then? Just make sure to keep looking back at this version so that you don't make the same 'mistakes'
 
starting over makes sense if you have spare workpower
which is never the case in single-man OSS projects
 
For quasiquoting in bash land, printf "%q" is a must-have-read in the manpage — sehe 18 secs ago
 
3:40 PM
@sehe I was amused by the title.
 
Yeah, we do that all the time
Crudely balanced with unadultered worship of the same
 
so meta.
@sehe ♪
noo
 
Was almost so beautiful. Time for a macro!
 
o_0 OW? random volume spike right as the song ended :'(
I think I need change my pants :S
Also, who linked to that mogwai song? was it you @R.MartinhoFernandes?
 
3:43 PM
@thecoshman Yes?
 
Common variable names: 1. item 2. result 3. foo 4. bar 5. i … 1032: somethingActuallyRepresentative
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what was the context again? Because I did not enjoy it ಠ_ಠ
 
Jan 13 at 15:12, by Bartek Banachewicz
@jalf if only we could name functions descriptively so their name would tell us what they do
 
@thecoshman Twas just what I was listening to.
Also, shame on you :P
 
GOSUB 1020
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes bleh, wash your ears out. Though, IIRC they do have some amiable stuff.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit fuck singing in!
... he says whilst using a service he has signed into... though I didn't have to!
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit if that isn't what you want, I think you want equal_range
 
3:50 PM
The idea of self-organizing containers! They can decide how to order the 'bucket items' internally
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Who needs std::rand when there is std::multimap::find? :)
 
NEW! HOT! std::multimap now with integrated slotmachine. Buy within the next 5 hours to receive an extra std::map as a gift
 
@FredOverflow return 4; // fair dice roll
 
screw this
I'mma go play games for an hour or two and then come back to it
 
@BartekBanachewicz A dice with a 42 on it would be nice, though...
 
3:53 PM
I made a dodecahedron icosahedron from an A3 sheet once
oh wait that's a wrong name
 
@sehe soon they will rise!
@DeadMG I am amazed you have stuff to it this long.
 
its rather an engineering problem, how to construct a dice with only one side?
 
The Möbius strip or Möbius band ( or ; ), also Mobius or Moebius, is a surface with only one side and only one boundary component. The Möbius strip has the mathematical property of being non-orientable. It can be realized as a ruled surface. It was discovered independently by the German mathematicians August Ferdinand Möbius and Johann Benedict Listing in 1858. A model can easily be created by taking a paper strip and giving it a half-twist, and then joining the ends of the strip together to form a loop. In Euclidean space there are two types of Möbius strips depending on the direction...
always falls on one side.
 
I'm currently being held back my the insurmountable task of calculating f=(gm1m2)/r^2soo much effort.
 
@Paranaix What would be the point of a dice with only one side?
 
3:55 PM
@Paranaix it's a stupid problem
 
@Paranaix It's "a die".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is that German?
 
@EtiennedeMartel English
one die, many dice.
 
@EtiennedeMartel <obligatory "Die GNU Autotools" reference>
 
@thecoshman You see that joke? High above? Yeah.
 
3:57 PM
if you don't know this, you can... die (insert meme picture here)
@EtiennedeMartel vOv mock you, or laugh with you? I made my choice.
awe, @sehe is feeling home sick
cross, as in the blind faith of religion, over my heart because that is where my soul is, hope to die, because breaking a promise deserves such punishment. The needle in the eye is to pin them closed, so you can't see the temptations.
simple really
 
Ah man, Poutine Week is next week.
 
@EtiennedeMartel In Russia? ;)
 
@EtiennedeMartel Isn't that every week for you?
 
@DeadMG Not officially.
(Also, I don't eat that much poutine. Usually twice a month on average)
Used to eat a lot more while I was a student. It's the best post-drunkfest meal, after all.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I keep thinking you mean Poitín
@EtiennedeMartel I don't know, fry up is like 80% greece
 
4:20 PM
@thecoshman Our post-Christmas fry-up was 80% turkey and only 20% greece.
 
@MartinJames not enough greece ಠ_ಠ
 
We called it 'Cyprus Special'.
 
Ell
afternoon
 
I've got me a basic Clang 3.5 GCC 4.8.2 setup
32-bit
I'm now testing to see if I can make 64-bit work too.
 
@rubenvb on what exception handling you want to build that
 
4:27 PM
@Darklighter seh. I do believe I found a patch for that.
But first I'm hopefully building it vanilla.
Which will probably not work.
 
@rubenvb that would be pretty awesome
 
@Darklighter I know. :-P
 
@rubenvb onyl thing i had to change was the include path search
 
@EtiennedeMartel You should eat more poussie.
 
ITT Fred is recommending cunnilingus.
 
4:36 PM
She'll thank you later.
 
Or right away, depending on how good you are.
 
Boost.ProgramOptions is not header only either? FFS
 
Does ProgramOptions parse command line options or what?
 
ergh
 
And meh, it doesn't allow two-character short options anyway.
 
4:42 PM
I can still feel the gastroscopy tube in my throat.
 
@DeadMG You can take it out now.
@FredOverflow Yes/
 
@DeadMG I know that feeling, had it done twice. Were you on drugs?
 
lol
@FredOverflow No, just had the spray.
 
Is it just me or is YouTube facing some technical problems at this time?
 
That's gotta feel like being raped with local anesthesia.
 
4:43 PM
Can't have --confidence-interval and -ci :(
 
erm
 
Ell
I don't see the problem with non header only libs o.O
 
well honestly, most of it wasn't too bad, there was just one bit at the back of the tongue and throat that she missed with the spray
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes custom command parser!
 
SHE? Tell us more :-D
 
4:44 PM
o hi
 
Xeo
At least I think that allows you to do that
 
eh
there were three nurses and they were all female.
that's it.
 
Female nurses? Awesome.
 
you'll have to find sexy nurse costume porn somewhere else
 
@Ell Since this is a library, it ends up requiring clients to mess with their build settings.
 
Ell
4:45 PM
as opposed to just #include <nonius>?
 
oh, @DeadMG had some hospital thing done finally? Grats, I guess?
 
Ell
Surely a -lboost_system -lnonius isn't so bad
 
-lnonius ends up not being enough, and that's nasty.
 
@jalf That was Friday :P
and they found nothing, nothing, nothing and more nothing.
 
@DeadMG well, I haven't been here since friday, I think :p
ah
 
4:46 PM
fair enough.
 
so you're just inherently defective then?
 
nah
I've got another test racked up on Thursday and another to schedule if it doesn't reveal anything.
 
fun fun
hope it turns up something
 
plus they took some biopsies of my duodenum and are gonna have a look at them
 
@Xeo Sigh :(
 
4:49 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Phil Nash wrote something on his blog about separating Catch's command line parser out into a separate lib. Haven't kept up with progress on that, but might be worth checking on if you want a header only command line parser
 
@jalf Yeah, that was going to be my next stop.
I need to set up some sort of reporter registry.
I sense factories coming up.
 
woohoo
abstract ones? Will there be factory factories? :D
 
singleton factories!
with controllers
 
and abstract observer adapters
 
@jalf Sort of abstract ones. I'll use std::function, but the effect is the same.
 
4:53 PM
@MohammadAliBaydoun I don't think I can take programming anymore. I'll become a farmer or something.
 
Need to pick what to construct depending on user input => no other choice.
 
@FredOverflow At least farmers are productive!
 
user1804599
I spent all day installing servers today.
 
user1804599
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nobody needs factories.
 
4:55 PM
Nah, fuck it, I don't need factories.
I'll just register objects directly.
2 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Need to pick what to construct depending on user input => no other choice.
 
Ell
what's wrong with factories?
 
ITT: Robot's library uses AbstractProxyFactoryBeanSingletonBridges.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes std::map<std::string, YourType()>
 
Ell
Okay. I must do a past paper a day for my subjects now woo
 
@FredOverflow That's a map of factories...
 
4:57 PM
wow, MSVC has some weird compiler flags
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes But without the stupid interfaces.
 
/GA: "optimize for Windows Application"
 
The hell does that do?
 
GAGAGAGAGA
 
haven't the foggiest
In other words, it actually has nothing to do with Windows Applications in any way
just about the implementation of TLS
 
4:59 PM
Hmm, I still want to get rid of -lboost_system.
 

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