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6:08 PM
@Mysticial :O
 
6:24 PM
@Mgetz the worst part (for the UK) is that May seems to put immigration control over single market access.
If they get a deal where they sacrifice free trade for closed borders, it's basically no deal at all
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes IIRC it was the main reason for leaving
 
I don't think "main reason for leaving" makes sense.
There are many reasons people voted Leave, some of them complete bullshit, like things you read off of red busses.
 
I'm boooooored.
More I like I totally lack motivation actually.
 
I just hope they don't fuck up the Good Friday agreement.
 
@Morwenn same.
I think I need to make friends but I don't even know where to start.
 
6:29 PM
@slaphappy That's why I stay near Brest.
I suck at making friends when I don't know anyone.
 
nwp
@Morwenn make a use all c++17 features bikeshedding project with me
 
@nwp No.
 
@Morwenn but... I'm starting from here
it's not like I have options :D
 
nwp
@Morwenn :( ok
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's dead effectively as NI will probably pull a scotland now
now is not the time to be looking for a house in belfast
 
6:31 PM
@nwp Sorry, I'm not excited by UTF-8 character literals.
@slaphappy From here?
 
@Mgetz er, totally not happening in NI, not without major ethnic cleansing first.
 
@Morwenn It's not like I'm moving or something. Or like I have a place back where I have friends. It's been years, everyone left.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you seem to be under the impression that won't happen?
 
Uh, that's tough :/
 
nwp
I had more constexpr if and structured bindings and future.then in mind
 
6:32 PM
Sinn Fein has nothing to lose at this point
 
So I could take the "newcomer into town" approach but I've been living here for 5 years now
 
@nwp future.then is not C++17 :p
 
heck they can probably get some of the protestants on their side now
 
@slaphappy I wouldn't to end up in this situation. But I fear it might happen someday :/
 
Why would unionists want to quit now?
 
6:34 PM
because suddenly the free trade they relied on with ireland is going poof
that means that the border will suddently be a lot more annoying than it was
 
@Morwenn Yeah, it might. People sometimes forget about friends when they focus on their careers and families. For me it's just that everyone moved a little bit of everywhere.
 
and since Belfast is economically tied to Ireland and not the UK...
 
@Mgetz sounds way too rational
Btw, do you know that Belfast has "peace walls" separating the two groups in several places?
 
@slaphappy My family is generally extremely good at meeting new awesome people, but I didn't inherit this trait ^^'
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes I'm aware, I'm also aware that the group primarily keeping the peace is the former fighters that were basically forced to meet each other in prison
 
6:36 PM
I still have my band at least.
 
@Morwenn my parents are both very introvert and generally dislike people. I'm considered one of the most social of the family
can you believe that
 
@slaphappy :o
 
@Mgetz I just don't think economy is the strongest motivator for those people.I
Though I'll be happy to be wrong
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes dunno, I'm not from NI. All I know is that Sinn Fein has already said they were planing on a referrenda
 
Ven
@slaphappy "unstuck from a cave"
 
6:40 PM
@Ven yeah this
 
bleh I have zero motivation ATM
 
@Shoe yeah, hotswapping, all that jazz
 
7:06 PM
@slaphappy you could just start a family
@nwp may be they are really dumb... and when you fuck up.. you just are also dumb too.
 
sad-trombone.wav /cc @StackedCrooked (source: stackoverflow.com/a/39521212/85371)
 
if anyone has friends on the committee please see to it that p0267r4 is nuked from orbit. Stateful APIs are harmful.
 
@Mgetz lol is that still a thing
 
@Mgetz There have been many comments saying this is at best useless and a waste of committee's time, but apparently Herb doesn't want to stop.
Like, nobody seems excited about the proposal.
 
@Morwenn I don't mind the idea of a 2d api
I just don't want one that codifies Cairo's horribleness
if you're going to do a C++ 2d api at least make it stateless and start from something non-shit like Moz2d
 
7:18 PM
@Mgetz But a standard one?
 
@Morwenn I'd be nice for portability reasons, yes I'm aware it will always be an optional implementation detail that will never be implemented
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh. That looks like PEBCAK then. Or maybe some auto-edit mishap
Gee. Fixed /cc @StackedCrooked
Now I feel silly.
@EtiennedeMartel Haha. 12 seconds slow
 
@sehe I was busy :/
 
@EtiennedeMartel Me too :) proof
Anyone else looked at kite.com ?
 
7:32 PM
If you need code, you should write it. — Guy 13 hours ago
^^ lol /cc @Borgleader
 
> Made with love in San Francisco
Also a lot of money.
Since it's SF, ya know.
 
@Mysticial Reminds me:
in Discussion between LearningCpp and sehe, yesterday, by sehe
You keep mentioning your requirements as if we are going to do the work. They're your requirements. You can ask about specific steps you get stuck with.
Just found another inane comment and couldn't help myself:
@LearningCpp yes. I told you all of that more than 24h ago. I think you should spend more time reading, allowing time to understand, and less posting more duplicate questions on Stack Overflow. sic. Also, testing things out builds understanding like nothing else. — sehe 2 mins ago
 
Xeo
You're in too deep, man.
 
7:51 PM
@wilx I managed to get pretty much what I wanted with TikZ:
 
@Morwenn Nice.
 
The code is a bit crude, but at least it works and gives the expected result :p
 
@Morwenn That doesn't look very hard
 
Ven
unlike me
 
I've done lots of work with Tikz before
You can get some really cool stuff done, I like it lots
 
7:53 PM
@Columbo I never used it before. Everything to learn.
 
Fair.
 
But I wanted something clean to illustrate an algorithm.
Anyway, I need to eat now. Later :)
 
nwp
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Q: Just putting it here for my help that's not a questio(n) :p Sorry ;*

Adam GliszczyńskiTylko tu wstawiam. Tak jest to pomoc na kolokwium :) Dzięki za wyrozumiałość. Class Date PART1 MAIN #include <iostream> #include <string> #include "Point.hpp" #include "ColPoint.hpp" using namespace std; int main(int argc, const char * argv[]) { Point my_point(2,1); cout<<"Wsp x = "<<...

can it compete? /cc @Mysticial @Borgleader
 
yeah, that one does. :)
 
I like that he put an effort to upload his own avatar
Also "yes, it's a cheat sheet for my uni exam" nails it
 
8:05 PM
@milleniumbug The 'private' tag is a nice touch
 
@milleniumbug it's gravatar though
 
@milleniumbug That's a good close reason:
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because the OP put more effort into uploading an avatar than in posting his question.
 
@Mysticial lol
@nwp title of the day
 
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because the OP should be majoring in botany instead of programming.
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because the OP is an idiot.
5
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because fuck you.
 
Sounds legit.
 
8:08 PM
Agree, delete this shit — Puppy 5 secs ago
 
Did the OP just change avatars?
 
@Morwenn BTW, isn't it backwards? I mean I would except the leftmost item having the max element.
 
no
 
user1804599
8:40 PM
@Ven PureScript now has label polymorphism.
 
Ven
I saw the PR go through :D
 
user1804599
So you can write lens (SProxy :: SProxy "foo") to get a Lens' {foo :: a | r} a. :D
 
user1804599
 
Ven
@rightfold no. don't expose your data's innerworkings.
 
user1804599
Nice.
 
user1804599
8:44 PM
Yeah I don't want to because the data structure is the one raven-node expects.
 
Ven
As simple as that. Those lenses allow you to change Attributes anytime you want w/o breaking user code because abstraction
 
user1804599
So I can pass it 1:1 to the FFI.
 
Ven
well, here, indirection -- points still stands
 
user1804599
captureError c e a = makeAff $ captureErrorFFI c e (map levelString a)
 
@Mysticial if only these were all one message and they could be starred together
 
8:54 PM
@wilx Hehe, what do you think I'm drawing these graphs for? :p
 
@Morwenn Some article about sorting?
 
@wilx It'll be a boring README on a GitHub project, but that's the spirit.
It represents a « poplar », which is a perfcet binary heap storing its root of the right, where a perfect binary tree has either one element, or one element whose children (always exactly 2) are also perfect binary trees.
The algorithm builds a forest of poplars, always storing a poplar as big as possible on the left, with decreasing poplar sizes.
Then it sorts the forest.
The original algorithm stored the indices of the poplars, but I made a version that works without storing anything.
It's fucking slow though.
 
> Just share with friends. Nothing to do here. Easy text game. More Details, More Details, More Details, More Details, More Details, More Details,
Sauce /cc @Mysticial
 
lol, wonder if it's the same guy or someone close.
 
9:09 PM
@Morwenn That's all right. Poplars (or at least Aspen, which are closely related) are some of the longest-lived organisms on the planet, so they can afford to be patient. The oldest Aspen is around eighty thousand years old.
 
@JerryCoffin And still they're mostly used to make cheap crates D:
 
There seems to be pretty solid agreement that the climate conditions since the last ice age haven't been favorable to new Aspen starting, so essentially all Aspen groves are believed to be at least ten thousand years old.
 
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's bovine excrement dressed with sprinkles and cherries.
 
@Mysticial Looks more like bovine excrement dressed with...more bovine excrement. Not even an attempt at sprinkles and cherries.
 
9:28 PM
today i met such a statement 'extern int = 0 ;' in global scope. and i do not know what it is intended for, unfortunately. is it legal somewhere.?
 
nwp
@GreenTree yes, but you should ask that in the appropriate room
 
Just be friends - I thought the asker wanted to talk about friend classes
 
@Mysticial rofl
 
nwp
10:06 PM
@nwp Not sure, but the wavelength is between 700 nm and 1 mm. — user4581301 6 mins ago
what?
apparently a pun something on infrared, never mind me, I'm just a bit slow
 
10:27 PM
@Borgleader there was a big sandpiper and a little sandpiper wandering the beach today. When the waves came in the little sandpiper would run uphill away from them and its little legs would go so fast they were a blur :)
 
10:48 PM
bloody flux
I searched for Bristol and was set to a Bristol in North America
 
Ell
lol
 
had to put in my postcode to get the real Bristol
 
Ell
Is it just you and I that are Bristol loungers?
 
@Ell myself I’m made of cardboard
 
afaik
 
Ell
10:53 PM
I'm not sure where Bristol <-> cardboard came from xD
 
but considering the size of the place even two of us is quite a few
I'm not sure how many other cities can boast two whole loungers
 
Ell
Berlin had quite a few
 
oh yeah
 
Ell
but I think the numbers have diminished
 
except all those German guys since Germany has like one city ;p
 
10:55 PM
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Ell
ah TIL
I though the stool scale was more likely to come up: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale
 
it’s what I expect many French speakers will be more familiar with
 
Ell
11:08 PM
@sehe I assume the mumble server is no more?
 
thought mumble is only on when sehe turns it on
 
@Mysticial Stumbled upon this sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/… , take a look at page 32, "Spaces Dual Parity vs Spaces Dual Parity". Look at the "Restore" profile and compare the blue hardware RAID curve with Storage Spaces (MS's new storage technology). SW RAID is 10x worse. Massive business opportunity to bring functional SW RAID to Windows.
 
11:47 PM
> I no longer see any concrete benefits to writing library implementations of things that are already known by the compiler.
from Andrew Sutton
no wonder concepts weren’t ready for C++17
 
Could one advantage be to guarantee compiler conformance? AKA __is_same might work differently in GCC and MSVC?
 
@Mikhail no
the compiler can choose to have a non-conformant intrinsic just the same
 
Is std::is_same implemented with the intrinsic?
 
@Mikhail doesn’t look that way in libstdc++
 

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