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12:06 PM
Are there dozens of them
 
user1804599
Hi
 
user1804599
Nice
 
12:33 PM
The opening sentence of Pride and Prejudice—“It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife” ... but what if that man is gay and really wanting a husband instead? </Trollololo>
“It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains.”
― Seth Grahame-Smith, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
deep, so deep ...
 
1:01 PM
argh
another W10 update, Windows Store and Edge pinned back on to my taskbar
 
Xeo
2:00 PM
@Mysticial @StackedCrooked Okay, just watched Youjo Senki. Pretty nice so far, I must say.
 
2:21 PM
@ProblemSlover I can't watch shit like that. The video editing is purposefully disorienting, the music effects seems taken from horror movie culture. /cc @Mikhail
What is the point in stringing together large series of seemingly neutral and a few unsettling ones? I think I have an idea.
I MIGHT find the discipline to actually listen to the whole docu - trying to block out the deluge of subliminal - to check whether they have a more rational message, but I don't think I will.
The world does NOT need more appeal to emotion. That's a key reason we're in this mess. So. If the documentary were intended to wake up liberal minds to a reality that is governed by irrational beings, then they FAIL utterly, by packaging up the message in a medium that is - naturally - going to be rejected by people who prefer rational and free thought.
 
nwp
3:01 PM
@sehe If your point is that rationality is dead and appeal to emotion is the proper way to do things now then it is only consistent that they do so by appealing to emotion.
 
3:49 PM
depends on who you're targetting
 
4:12 PM
@sehe well I didn't watch actually. thanks for your opinion though
 
@JerryCoffin Doesn't it also force the companies to provide insurance to people who could not get any before?
 
4:39 PM
hmm
 
ScY
I actually love c++ jesus...
 
I'd like to meet this "C++ Jesus" sometime
:P
will he introduce concepts and modules
 
absolutely ruined by the video and tagline
 
> 2017
> using .gif
 
5:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes :(
 
welcome. We all do. It's just... we don't advertise it much.
I guess we quietly agree that people who love C++ and advertise it are usually the irresponsible kind of C++ programmer.
It's ok to love C++ as long as you love it for the right reasons. Which means there are much better programming languages for most values, but there is a set of values that C++ pragmatically serves best, combined. :sadface:
@R.MartinhoFernandes Could hardly disagree more
 
@nwp My eyes T_T
performancetest *Obj = new performancetest;
Obj->test1();
Obj->test2();
Obj->~performancetest();
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ScY
@sehe hehe. I just learned about function pointers, which neatly solve my problems.
 
@Borgleader :cripes:
 
Ven
5:09 PM
hey
why are avatars dead again?
 
nwp
Something about avatars not doing having the intended effect of befriending the natives.
 
 
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6:14 PM
@Puppy Everybody's always been able to get insurance (if they could afford it). Now they're just required to get insurance, regardless of whether they can afford it.
 
user406009
@JerryCoffin Well, people with preexisting conditions were not really able to get insurance.
 
@ScY Function pointers don't really neatly solve any problems.
 
@Lalaland Yes, they were. It just cost more. It was possible to get insurance that cost less if it excluded coverage of preexisting conditions. What's happened now is that they've prohibited that less expensive insurance, so all that's left is the more expensive variety.
 
hmm
I was definitely under the impression that the insurance companies were forced to chip in a bit and there were 18 million people who could not afford insurance before who have it now
 
@Puppy Sure they do (as long as your problem is something about: "how do I unnecessarily and pointlessly obfuscate this code?")
@Puppy That's what the propaganda is designed to lead you to believe. As far as I can see, the reality is that there are ~N million people who preferred to spend their money in other ways who are now forced to spend it on insurance instead. Consider a kid in an entry-level job, making little enough that buying insurance cuts heavily into his beer budget. Given a choice, most would choose beer every time--but they're no longer given that choice.
 
6:33 PM
you make that sound like a bad thing, but I'm pretty happy calling that an uncontested win
"Child who wishes to be irresponsible is no longer irresponsible"? oh noes
I guess that some of those people might have wanted to spend it on other things, like nappies or someshit that are important
even then, I'm not entirely sure that I would call that a bad thing
does it really qualify as getting by if you'll drop dead of a cold and leave nobody to care for your dependents?
 
@Ell that's basically what I went with yeah
 
still I guess that I don't really have a good perspective since people in Britain can have both healthcare and nappies
 
well, for a bit, then I decided, fuck it, I'll just use a string
 
6:53 PM
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^ That's some excellent trolling.
 
Ven
@nwp wat
 
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Q: Can I talk to rubber duck at work?

kukisI have noticed I have had great success using another co-worker as a metaphorical rubber duck (sometimes intentionally, sometimes unintentionally). It improves my productivity vastly. However, I know that it probably must distracts others when I am using them in that way. That's why I want to bu...

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@milleniumbug LOL
 
7:44 PM
it's quiet
 
yeah of course I might like that
 
@Abyx Except that were not children that were killed.
 
Ven
8:18 PM
it's fine
 
If we count condoms we're looking at genocide scale
 
@sehe Haha.
 
Ven
8:36 PM
we don't have a message here starred with that C++ staring into the abyss quote?
 
@sehe Wanking is planetary destruction.
@Ven No, at the current saturation levels c++ is a beacon of light.
 
heh
 
workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/83451/… I have my rubber duck (plush monkey) posted at my door as a colleague.
 
8:51 PM
@Borgleader I think I actually sent you that doggo :V
it is an excellent doggo
 
@jaggedSpire oh thats possible.
heres foxes as compensation
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aaaaah
so cute
 
9:16 PM
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9:47 PM
Phew! I half expected a flag fest on the picture.
 
It's the Lounge we star shit instead of fagging it
 
10:04 PM
First issue opened by somebody else than myself on cpp-sort: « why do you use the trailing return type syntax even when it's unneeded? ».
 
10:16 PM
@Borgleader Cute *-*
 
nwp
I bet someone wrote a script or something.
 
CppCast
 
nwp
probably not even in c++
 
@Borgleader You just love heartshaped cats :p
 
10:27 PM
@Morwenn Aren't they adorable though? :3
 
@Borgleader They're cute, but one looks like it doesn't care, and the other one like it want a duel.
 
@Morwenn Fine, no hearts
 
Haha, that one is ridiculously cute xD
 
\o/ Success!
 
augh so cute
cute attack
 
10:42 PM
@Puppy I'm not particularly trying to make it sound good or bad. I'm just trying to be accurate. The increased number of people who have insurance isn't because it's more affordable--it's because they're required to do so regardless of whether they can afford it.
Since long before Obamacare, hospitals have provided care whether people could afford it or not. They just marked rates for everybody else up by a fraction of a percent to cover these cases. It's been there forever, and never been particularly significant.
 
I seem to recall that half the problem is that emergency care is provided but not routine care, so routine conditions don't get treated until they're much worse and much more expensive to treat
 
wait so with using return when not required, adding return; anyways is better?
 
@Puppy There were undoubtedly limits on what they provided for free (but I'm not sure exactly what they were and suspect it varied somewhat between hospitals). The studies I've seen seem to indicate that providing routine checkups (and such) has generally increased costs, not reduced them (but I'm not sure how much of that is because what's saved is less than the cost of the checkups and such, and how much because people with health problems are simply living longer).
 
10:58 PM
kinda suspect that #2 is a big problem everywhere
we save people from natural deaths, and then they still need food, jobs, housing, etc
 
@Borgleader more like: "Hey don't go, I liked the food!". But anyways, they're gone now
 
@JerryCoffin I heard some time ago somewhere that dental and ocular (?) health in USA was low for common folk because they couldn't afford even basic checkups. In our system, I get to go to a dentist checkup for free at least once a year and I get the very basic filling for free too.
 
@Puppy When we save people to the point that they can actually work again, they're probably not a (major) cost. When we keep somebody alive and needing constant hospital care for a year, the cost is just a tad higher.
 
@Morwenn "Because I like my bikeshed pink". (Also, guillemets? I think I have a diagnosis ready)
 
@sehe Guillemets because he is French.
 
11:03 PM
@JerryCoffin I think that it varies less. People forget that raising the population, even of good solid working-age people, also directly means that you need to build more infrastructure, train more doctors, etc.
 
@wilx Anti-joke cat
 
@sehe :(
 
the guy in hospital for a year dies at the end and frees up those resources, but the working-age guy will need further investments for decades to come
even if you have all the money in the world, it takes time to build houses, train folks, all that stuff
 
@Puppy What? Houses do not grow on trees?!
 
@Puppy Oh, of course--but keeping people alive (a little) longer seems unlikely (to me) to contribute to that significantly (especially in most of western Europe, where most populations have negative growth).
 
11:07 PM
@JerryCoffin We went from 59m last census to 63m this census (10year period)
US 298,593,000 to 323,100,000 over the last ten years (a different 10year period)
 
your regularly scheduled red panda dose /cc @Borgleader @TonyTheLion @ThePhD @Ven @Xeo
 
Ell
I've realised something a little unsettling
some surprisingly substantial proportion of the joy of functional programming is getting to call my parameters x and xs instead of longer names :P
I just realised because I've started using longer names >.<
 
11:23 PM
I'm happy with single-letter parameter names in some cases
sometimes like loop variables or types with very explicit names you don't really need more in the variable name
 
Is there something about functional programming that makes using shorter names particularly more convenient? If you use the name 'x' in only a line or two of code, then calling it something longer is unlikely to add clarity.
 
11:40 PM
@Puppy Yup--both US and UK are growing (at around half to three quarters of a percent annually). In both cases, most of that is due to immigration though (~70% in the UK, and closer to 75% in the US).
 
@Brandin smaller, more abstract functions
 
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