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1:20 PM
@Telkitty Try harder :p
 
1:42 PM
I feel like I should put things going on the y-axis
as it would be easier to read library names
Even slanted and on the bottom, and even if I shifted it over to line up, it just doesn't read right.
I think on the left would just be better.
 
TuxGuitar 1.3 apparently sucks.
No toolbars, no configuration, I couldn't find how to change the instruments and there were sound problems.
 
Waaaay better for reading.
Now I need a bar char that shows median/mean and stuff
And upper quartile / lowerquartile stuff
 
Now it's starting to look a bit sexy :D
 
Ell
Are you quicker than everything else now PhD?
 
Nope.
There's still some caveats.
oolua uses its hardcore DSL / macro to specialize templates specifically for user-based types.
This makes it more specialized than Sol, and in the end has to jump less hoops.
So it beats us by some 6-10 microseconds (on benchmarks that run a given test 100x times) for C++ member variables and C++ member functions
 
Ell
1:57 PM
but that's the only place?
 
Just about. Most other implementations get trashed as far as table access and function calling.
But calling C++ member functions and C++ member variables is a big deal to a lot of folks.
It's basically two camps: one wants to interact with tables and shit super easy, the other wants a hardcore FFI.
 
Ell
can't you just manually declare stuff instead of using macros?
 
Manually specializing templates is hard.
And error-prone, and copy-pasta, and etc. etc.
OOLua DSL reduces some of that copypasta, but replaces it with its own kind've macro system that's hard to deal with.
 
Ell
I just looked at the example
and all it appeared to do was declare the member functions
 
It can do a lot more than that.
Of note is that you'd have a hard time registering stateful functions (e.g., function objects/lambdas) with the macro-based solutions in some cases.
luwra can't handle stateful functions all too well, but the guy updates his library fast so I gotta go check to make sure I'm not biting my tongue here.
 
2:02 PM
@ThePhD Teach me optimization. tia.
> Load & print took: 0hrs, 0mins, 1sec, 979ms. // Release build
Load & print took: 0hrs, 8mins, 13secs, 245ms. // Debug build
turnaround time in debug is just too much T_T
 
Uh.
 
@Borgleader Steal code :D
 
Does it matter how much time it takes in debug mode...?
I would imagine if you're doing a lot of allocations and shit, it's gonna take a lifetime in debug no matter what.
Safeguards and shit cost a lot, yo.
 
Well kinda, I mean I wouldnt mind 1min or so but 8 is just ughhhhhhhhhhh for debugging.
ohw ell
 
What's the code look like?
 
2:11 PM
I/O and badness mostly :P
I'm reading in old game assets.
 
Ever tried sync_with_stdio(false)?
 
I already replaced cout with printf, it was my biggest win so far ;)
Release went from 35s to 2-3s
 
Maybe cpp-format (or fmt as it's called nowadays) can help.
Since it should avoid runtime deduction of types.
 
printf("%s\n\n", bif_file.c_str());
I thought string building would be the biggest issue but i removed a bunch of temporaries from there and it barely helped
 
I still don't have any O(n log n) sorting algorithm for forward iterators with no more than O(log n) auxiliary memory :(
The best I have is n log n on average but still O(n log² n).
 
2:28 PM
IIRC VC++ and g++ have specialized string allocators.
 
aaah
got my rep
 
Alex's back o.o
 
been for a month already just not here :P
 
Ven
Alex \o/
 
3:09 PM
I have to tweak hybrid_adapter again. Not sure whether I'll manage to do what I want or die before.
 
nwp
@Morwenn I don't understand the O(n log² n) part. Does that refer to space or time? It is equivalent to O(n log(log(n))) right?
 
using is_stable = std::conditional_t<
    utility::is_callable<Head(Args...)>::value,
    typename Head::template is_stable<Args...>,
    typename sorters_merger<Tail...>::template is_stable<Args...>
>;
@nwp Time.
 
nwp
so it is not a comparison based sort?
 
It is a comparison based sort.
That's when you call log n times an n log n algorithm.
 
nwp
@Morwenn that would be O(n log(n)²) which is not the same as O(n log² n)
 
3:14 PM
@nwp It's written n log² n too.
 
O(n log² n) == O(n (log n)²) == O(n ((log n)²))
 
nwp
ok, guess I was just confused and O(n log² n) == O(n log log n) is just wrong
 
3:31 PM
Skewb personal best improved by 15 seconds
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes And absolute time?
...to get off?
 
Modification in hybrid_adapter: tests randomly failing for small_array_adapter. Wat.
Oh, copy-paste error. Dumb me.
 
4:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are those video-verified or do internet-connected deivces upload your times or something?
 
Ell
4:20 PM
there is a mat thing
I believe
 
 
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Ven
6:37 PM
So the reported increase of 57% in racist incident is a HUGE underestimate. It's a 425% increase. https://twitter.com/skymarkwhite/status/748545603534192640
:(
 
Bee Gees - Stayin' Alive is still awesome.
 
7:11 PM
It's stayin' alive
@Ven I share the frowny face. Although it would be best to not talk in absolutes like that. It would be clear that the reporting rate has probably also jumped - and rightly so, I might add.
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're on fire
 
@Ven lol indeed! :D
 
7:45 PM
@ThePhD they're input manually by judges.
 
user1804599
@sehe and the wob rate
 
@ScarletAmaranth Oh, man I was excited to see this again tomorrow :) Then I realized the its last episode was last week.
 
@StackedCrooked hehe
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow
 
@StackedCrooked I am very disappointed with Kabaneri :( RE:Zero is ok-ish so far, but nothing great
 
user1804599
 
@StackedCrooked I tried tanaka, didn't like the first episode at all
 
It actually was the series I enjoyed the most. But not so much the first episode.
It's slice of life though.
Maybe not everyone likes that.
I also liked Flying Witch a lot.
 
not sure I understand the true meaning of "slice of life"
as in: random crap selected, without actual plot? :P
 
pretty much :D
 
very few anime impress me enough for me to even remember having watched them
definitely Hataraku Maou sama
 
7:59 PM
Right, TIL there's a Berserk remake this season.
First ep is already available. It's extremely low rated..
Dunno if you've seen the old anime. In case you haven't, you should probably watch it.
It's hard-core. Not Kabaneri pussy stuff.
 
haven't
 
And I'm not kidding actually :P
 
I am not much into things like Kabaneri honestly
zombies are boring
 
Zombies are never boring.
HSOTD needs a sequel.
 
It's not about zombies. It's about a very strong swordsman who decides to follow a revolutionary man. Or something. And plenty of badassery.
@Mysticial I see they already ate your brains.
:P
@Xeo Just noticed that Rewrite Ep 1 is out.
I'm afraid to watch it lol. I might disappoint.
> Can you print code directly from the coliru? I didn't find the option.
^ Not sure what he means.
 
8:07 PM
Convert software to treeware?
 
I suppose you can use the printer function of your browser.
 
nwp
@StackedCrooked "Yes, press CTRL+P"
 
Obviously, :ha
 
> Can has focus back in edit window after hitting "compile"? :3 (FIXED: Focus will be restored when pressing the compile button. However, not that you can also use Ctrl-B to compile (Cmd-B on Mac)).
Heh, reading my old feedback.
Totally forgot I used to have a focus issue.
 
And typos
I secretly love making images transparent for loungecpp. I realize there'll probably not be a visible difference to anyone but me.
 
Ell
8:26 PM
I notice it
or did then
 
8:52 PM
Strangely accurate /cc @vim-lovers
 
user1804599
My dream is to be a MILF
 
I don't wanna know what program language that involves
Interesting. There's an anti-doxxing reddit comment nuking script that apparently has a little bit of a bug reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/418x95/theory_vs_reality/…
 
Ell
9:17 PM
I always feel like a fraud when I tell people I use emacs
I dont use it in the way the emacs/vim aficionados use their tool
 
Hey guys. Any idea how I can run different cpp files in the same project independently?
I use a Mac with XCode which supports C++ programming
Just started getting into it this week and I have to submit basic cpp programs for a class and idk how I can organize all my homework into 1 project folder and tell it to run each one independently
 
@Bassie How do you plan to have kids? :)
 
Ell
@btrballin no idea sorry
 
Ven
9:45 PM
WinDev fights a great fight /cc @KretabChabawenizc @LucDanton
 
well that’s one happy marketing person
> patron
lol
 
Ven
:-)
 
looks like they have the best at the top
 
Can we just appreciate that this stuff just never gives up
8
 
nwp
@sehe I feel rick-rolled
 
9:52 PM
I love you ♥
 
Ah, my latest preprocessor abuse... calculating pi ("directly")
Don't know why I'm so obsessed with this lately
 
It is sad sad sad that I sit at home alone on Saturday night.
 
Ell
:(
I was alone most of today
And it sucked really
 
Ven
did it?
 
10:00 PM
@Ell C'mon, come here :(
 
I found CC-TV footage from Bartek's work city
@Ell Today I messed up by subsituting for a keyboardist and leaving the music at home. All of it.
I'm just so used to having it all in the tablet on the go :( I didn't manage to import the sheet music though, so I reconciled myself to forget to bring the hard copies to the gig. #famouslastwords
 
@sehe Oh by the way... not that I've even seen the whole code base but I'm curious... what was the bug the other day?
 
Ell
@sehe oh dear. Did you manage to successfully improvise? :P
@Morwenn :')
 
Yup. People said it was alright. It deffo wasn't comfy though and I probably made a less than spectacular impression on the organizers
 
Ell
Still, a mistake you won't repeat probably
It reminds me of the film whiplash which I watched the other day
 
10:05 PM
I've long accepted the fact that I am a bit chaotic and I got it under control to an extent. But yeah, when things are out of the ordinary I still mess up :(
@Ell It has been a while yes. But consider me like @R.MartinhoFernandes and knives/bycicles/trains
 
Ell
That can't be blamed, if things are out of the ordinary :)
 
@sehe I know the feel. Today I tried to give a jazzy feel to Saint-Patrick's andro and it sucked :D
 
Ell
@sehe ah, well let's hope this isn't the first of a string of incidents, like which rmf has made before!
 
Which means that it probably sucked at least 10 times more that what you're able to do ._______.
 
I feel like I'm getting grumpier and grumpier lately.
 
10:07 PM
@Morwenn For an audience?
 
Nah, just for myself :p
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes me too, not sure why
What's up though?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Uhoh. Have ye any plausible causalities to render on the subject?
@Morwenn I dig the parts that sound non-synth
 
@sehe The recorder solo is awesome. Far above my skills :o
 
Yup. That "Vivaldi-citation" is nice
 
10:11 PM
That album was recorded with an actual orchestra.
 
The rest too, btw. Just some of the sound font renderings are bit thin on the surface
 
Ell
Time to sleep folks, have a good night
 
Night æll
 
@sehe Eh, they got to give some parts to the guy at the synths :p
@Ell Sleep right :D
 
@sehe Damn!
 
10:14 PM
I made up the part about the location of course
 
@sehe If you want a song piece that is clearly inspired by Vivaldi, The Dark Tower of Abyss is probably the best one even though it sounds a bit old.
 
@sehe Yeah, I figured as much. :)
 
I don't usually name Vivaldi as one of my inspirations, FWIW
 
I tend to like the harmonies.
 
THIS FUCKING GAME MAN
Germanyyyyyyyy <333
 
10:16 PM
My father sometimes plays a Bach-Vivaldi on the organ that I find awesome. The tune is rather simple but every chord could resolve to at least two or three different things. It feels both simple and extremely rich.
 
@Morwenn I was gonna highlight phrases like youtu.be/OvZYhxT5Mf8?t=88 and this timed link (quite a long stretch, until the end of the movement is worthwile, actually):
 
Now that's quite epic :D
 
@Morwenn Do you have an opus number?
 
Have you ever listened to Ligeti's requiem?
 
Yes.
You linked to it before, too :)
@Morwenn I have the same kind of relation to Handel and even Beethoven.
 
10:26 PM
@sehe Unortunately not. I am trying to find the piece, but I fear I will have to wait for my father to be awake again.
 
Most of the time it's not very arousing. But then there are the xceptions
@Morwenn Well, there's only a limited list of Vivaldi works revised by Bach. It's not one of the violin concertos, and not likely the concerto for 4 klaviers...
 
I feel like it wasn't a concerto though. That's where it becomes strange.
 
@Morwenn The Gloria I know inside out. I've played it as violinist around 1988, as a singer around 1992 and as a pianist many times over the years. I remember I ran through score differences for our violin master back when (Ricordi vs. Ed. Peters?)
 
o.o
 
@Morwenn That's what I mean. You can insta-rule out many of the options
 
10:31 PM
But I can't find the other pieces out of the blue :/
The score isn't on the organ. I'll have to ask my father tomorrow.
Anyway, when it comes to Bach...
 
@Morwenn BWV 593 could be it, though
@Morwenn Dat clip
 
@sehe Nope, not that one.
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_concerto is the list I used to guess it
 
Found it:
Part of BWV 596.
The piece is rather simple but many chords could resolve to several other chords, which makes the piece really interesting.
It's as if half of the notes are implicit.
 
@Morwenn Ah. The other one :) I was close enough. Listening.
 
10:46 PM
Yup, close enough :p
 
I know the original Vivaldi a lot better.
Now I'm going to have to re-binge A. Corelli concerti grossi. God I miss playing the violin when I hear these
 
Ha :D
One of my favourite organ's pieces of all time is Brahm's Herzlich tut mich verlangen but I never managed to find an interpretation I liked on the internet.
IMO it's a piece that has to be slow with a regular rhythm. But everyone makes it « slow then fast then slow then fast then slow then fast... » and it loses it flavour ot my ears :(
 
@olafurw To add insult to injury it has become commonplace that OPs don't vote on, comment or accept answers in the thread they started.
I noticed this too. The lingo in the tweet betrays a non-appreciation of how SO works, though
We don't "start threads". It's not a discussion forum
 
Is that Nicol Bolas?
Oh, it isn't.
 
No, Nicol Bolas' real name is Jason something Jason McKesson
 
Now. It's a binging competition
 
I'd share Jehan Alain's Litanies too but I guess I'll go to sleep first.
Some Messian would have been fun too.
 
@Morwenn Not the first time :)
 
Really?
 
I don't think so. The Duruflé is new to me though. That's epic.
 
11:09 PM
Really? Well, I was probably exposed to many « strange » organ pieces when I was younger :)
Anyway, I'm leaving. See you later :)
 
Sleep well
 
That's the plan :p
 
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