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8:02 AM
Major upgrade to the AWS Terms of Service; check out clause 57.10. No, really: https://aws.amazon.com/service-terms/
 
wow that's absolutely hilarious I am pissing myself from every orifice
 
lmao
nice meme
 
Star it, you thankless bastards!
 
puh lease
@LucDanton I have confirmed that I do indeed have an async boner.
It is very disappointed atm.
 
8:06 AM
@Rapptz lie back and think of Python
 
Boost.Asio's API sucks tbqh
 
Ven
yo
 
@Rapptz it's OK imo
 
am trying very hard
 
8:13 AM
@Nican "I use Arch Linux, which means I get laid about as often as I type sudo packman -Syu"
 
is there no way to avoid this callback hell
 
Xeo
somethingsomething futures somethingsomething coroutines somethingsomething. Not sure how well that actually works out in practice, tho
 
I see the std::future API I think
 
Xeo
There's also one for boost's coroutines, I think
 
you have to pass asio::use_future for it to return std::future
 
8:21 AM
Seriously, no stars for zombie apocalypse in Amazon AWS TOS? :(
 
Stars are earned :3
 
@wilx I'd downstar this if I could
 
;_;
You are all so mean! ;_;
Every dick joke gets a star, even if it is not even dick joke.
 
upstars to the right
 
But not this which is actually funny. :(
 
8:25 AM
my stomach hurts
 
Have you considered the possibilty that your humor might be subpar
 
Luc is dominating the starboard with his weak stars
 
@HubertApplebaum I am not answering a non-question.
 
@WGhost Did your girlfriend give you the name you have on Discord?
 
And now for something completely different...
Some of the tags on SO have an icon as well. How does one add an icon to a tag that does not already have it?
 
8:28 AM
you pay SO money
those are sponsored tags
 
@HubertApplebaum you tried/10
I don't think this template will ever work
 
me neither
 
@Rapptz I see.
 
those peter sommerland ones were good
retarded dog was also p. good
the memes have gone downhill though
 
8:30 AM
what peter ones
 
occupied by the top 1%
 
peter ones are good but too hard to edit
at least for me
 
Heh, some guy claimed hana slowed down his compilation speed and louis spent a few hours on his code only to find the cause was in range-v3. reddit link
 
@Rapptz iirc it's not just paid for... I think they will do it fro sort of 'brand' things
 
Guys, when I was a young man, I used to eat pizza. So, basically, yesterday.
 
8:42 AM
@ivajayne @pakalupapito i didnt understand
o_0
 
@ElimGarak So, you are not young any more today?
 
No pizza today... Young days are over.
 
Today is International day of pizza
 
soo, pizza today?
 
fuck all these stupid international days
keep it local bro
 
Xeo
8:44 AM
@AndyProwl that so?
 
today is the pancake day for me :D
 
well at least facebook told me so
 
So, 365 days only, I guess value of international days are at a premium, who allocates days?
 
today is work day for me -_-
it's a day when I work
national or not
 
@ElimGarak god damn hipsters!
 
Xeo
8:45 AM
I was planning on making some more chicken alfredo tonight
with mushrooms, this time
 
I've not cooked since Friday as I've been either out or eating what I cooked back then
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Same. Next national holiday is in 6 weeks :/
 
yay for bulk cooking :D
 
Xeo
and next personal vacation is around Uncon in June
 
When you don't try your best and totally succeeed.
 
Xeo
8:46 AM
@thecoshman I can never be arsed to prepare so much, I rather cook every day.
I also don't have the storage capacity for huge amounts of prepared food :(
 
ayyy, xeo gettin' wasted with the Lungers
 
@AndyProwl apparently there was a national pizza day in the US yesterday; although it looks like there also are more specific e.g. national pepperoni pizza days, too (what a truly great culture that has so many styles of pizza)
 
@Xeo huh? it's more effort to cook each day. Plus the ratios of ingredients works out better to do a big batch of chili
 
> November 12 National Pizza with the Works Except Anchovies Day
srs bsns
I’m assuming that this is the sort of 'national day' where a food group decides 'let’s throw a media event just in case it makes some people buy our stuff'
 
Xeo
8:51 AM
Like Christmas, Easter, Halloween...? :D
 
@Shoe lewl
 
Speaking of 'murica, I must simulate gravity on the american flag and then do a retopo of the hires mesh. For the flagpole in the office in the gaem.
 
Christmas is initially based on a natural phenomenon
 
shut up, I like food
@HubertApplebaum of sex?
 
the winter solstice you inbred
 
8:53 AM
@Xeo well those are not national so the conspiracy reasons run deeper than that
 
@LucDanton lol
 
@HubertApplebaum and how do you celebrate that? By shinning giant shafts of light from the cold lips of standing stones aka, sex
 
looks like that just made my cinch alarm misfire
 
Bleh. Discord sucks.
 
you suck
 
8:57 AM
I was typing that
 
discord really sucks
 
tbh I'm also coming here more often
 
@Shoe unlike the gf that you don't have anyway
 
tracking two tabs is way too much pain
 
@HubertApplebaum right
 
8:58 AM
I appreciate the separate channels there, I spam my game stuff there now
but for #general ugh, constantly checking two tabs
 
 
reply-to-message is so important to me
 
^ "H" on web UI of Discrod with Firefox on Windows.
 
I can never follow who replied to what
 
Rapptz is implementing those
 
8:59 AM
@Shoe I agree.
 
Also a message takes a shitton of space for no reason. I know I can set it to be compact, but then I lose the quick "look at avatar to guess who it is" thing, which I highly use in here
 
@Shoe +1
 
@AlexM. maybe I’m missing something but you can be in separate rooms here
 
you want me to make a new room and invite everyone interested?
that way other people have to check one extra page
 
@AlexM. do you have all the channels in one log?
 
9:01 AM
not sure I follow
the channels are on the left in the menu
on discord
 
the rooms are on the right on SO
 
right
and they require invites
and a new page
channels on discord require 1 click
 
on my end I can check out another room from the same page
 
by closing this one?
 
no, I click 'Rust' and then I’m in the Rust room. Hit 'back' and I’m, well, back here
 
9:03 AM
so you're closing this one
the room
 
I’m not closing the tab and I am still in the room.
 
yeah
now tell me how easy it would be for me to start a gaming room on SO
and get the people here to join
 
how does discord do things differently on that point
 
the room is already there and people already joined
 
changing between channels is more lightweight than changing between rooms
one does not require page reload
 
9:05 AM
and you actually have audience there lol I don't really understand how this point is so hard to consider
 
@AlexM. it’s just you said that having separate tabs was annoying and you appreciated switching from channel to channel, so I thought there was something different at play
 
I think I'm the only one who likes discord lel
well Robert does too
 
@LucDanton nope
I appreciated the gaming channel because I can spam there and people interested can check it out
when I have something to post I open the tab and post it
having separate tabs at all times is annoying so I don't do both lounge and #general at the same time
there's too much action going in both at all times so too much effort to check regularly
whereas nothing was posted in gaming since last night
 
main issue is everyone's not fully switched or fully satisfied with it
so you get the odd split
 
@Rapptz is a full switch the end goal?
 
9:09 AM
iunno what the goal is personally
 
I'm fine with discord as a complement
 
complement?
 
it fulfills most of my shitposting needs and frees the lounge from having to deal with it
also no flags
 
it also happens to be an environment with no rules external to ours
i.e. no mods
 
yeah
 
9:12 AM
I dunno
 
we have our own rules
 
Shitposting feels bad
 
tbh we could make the discord server more public but no one would like that
 
the only thing that's really missing for me is the reply-to
transcript... maybe. Starboard, more
 
Moving to discord would mean death of lounge within 1-2 years
 
9:13 AM
much earlier, if we all moved
but I don't see that happening
 
yeah me too
 
@AndyProwl why?
 
because people like it here
some crucial features are missing and also they don't mind the SO environment so much
(I don't)
but I like discord too
and I mind the flagging and trolls
so if we find a feature-wise valid alternative, I'm ok with moving there
 
there's also the thing that people mentioned with others not being able to join discord
 
the only reason I like Lounge<C++> on discord is because I already have 32 other servers on there
 
9:16 AM
didn't know about that one
 
I'm not sure I would be ok with moving anywhere
 
not a problem for me but w/e
 
vs only this SO chat
 
@AlexM. ??
 
@melak47 we can't get new users on discord
 
Xeo
9:16 AM
tbh, I have no desire to move elsewhere
 
@AlexM. We can.
If we make it public.
 
Xeo
something temporary for stuff like Uncon is okay, but more than that - meh
 
As in, spread invites around in other communities.
 
@Rapptz I'd take SO trolls over gamer trolls ty
 
Nah.
There are programming communities lol.
I'm in 4.
 
9:19 AM
@HubertApplebaum ^ Step one, finished
 
raw string literals, y u so pretty
 
cool
 
Note that it's only Arity-based Overloading
if I feel like a masochist I'll get order-dependent type-based overloading too.
 
Xeo
@melak47 if only proper indentation :(
 
user1804599
Is there a standard way to group vCards into a single file?
 
9:25 AM
tar
@ThePhD neat
 
user1804599
Yeah I guess I'll do that.
 
hey
is there some kind of convention for where the this pointer goes on the stack?
 
@ThePhD what happens if func_1 is a polymorphic lambda?
 
it doesn't even have to go on the stack (see what VS does with thiscall)
 
9:35 AM
@melak47 Compiler error.
 
awww
 
How am I supposed to know what binds if you pass me a polymorphic lambda?
 
@HubertApplebaum but then inside the function it pushes rcx
 
anything :v
 
It's callable by literally anything and "anything" in C++ is compile-time information.
 
9:36 AM
000007FEE03BED00 48 89 54 24 10       mov         qword ptr [rsp+10h],rdx
000007FEE03BED05 48 89 4C 24 08       mov         qword ptr [rsp+8],rcx
 
rcx is this when calling by thiscall
 
Ven
what's wrong
 
I know
 
no you don't
 
@ThePhD just like walk the heap and find all the type_info's somewhere and then register it for each one or something...ez
 
9:37 AM
look
 
@melak47 .-.
 
000007FEE03BED30 48 8B 94 24 E8 00 00 00 mov         rdx,qword ptr [this]
000007FEE03BED30 48 8B 94 24 E8 00 00 00 mov         rdx,qword ptr [rsp+000000E8h]
VC has some kind of convention for where this sits on the stack
 
Ven
-fomit-stack-pointer ftw.
 
-vomit-stack-pointer
 
@slaphappy I seem to recall even being able to assign to this in 2013 or 2012
 
Ven
9:38 AM
MSDN states that ecx is used for thiscall, btw.
so it's important in the calling convention
 
Yes we know ^^
also it's rcx, but that's not the point
 
Ven
ah okay, I misread what hubert said; sorry
 
by the way did you know that rcx is used for this
 
Ven
@HubertApplebaum someone told me, but I forgot already. must be my old age.
 
@HubertApplebaum also the first step is collect underpants
 
9:40 AM
@HubertApplebaum I was just going to ask you for another round of you-know-what
 
Ven
:<
 
is this code for gay sex
 
almost exclusively
 
so what's your question kbok
 
is this magic
does msdn lie to me
why is my member function called with an argument passed in edx
 
Ven
9:45 AM
well, does it use thiscall?
 
why does my program crash
well, it's stated than member functions use thiscall by default
 
Ven
VC can do whatever it wants. if it's inlined, then it's not gonna use the calling convention. is it -O0?
 
I'm /Od /Ob0 (all disabled)
VC seems to be using __fastcall for member functions
I have a perfectly harmess function that calls another with *this as a parameter and the reference gets botched
 
excuse me but why do you care
is that your codegen issue
 
I don't know if it's a codegen issue. The generated assembly seems to fail passing this correctly
But then maybe I'm too stupid to understand why it's actually my fault
 
9:49 AM
can you mcve?
 
I'm not sure. I can try extracting the relevant code, but I don't think the generated code will be the same
 
@slaphappy > Using the /Gr compiler option causes each function in the module to compile as __fastcall unless the function is declared by using a conflicting attribute, or the name of the function is main.
this may be relevant?
 
Ven
SSCCE?
@melak47 he apparently only uses /Od /Ob0
 
@Ven well, probably not ONLY those flags? :/
oh wait, /GR and /Gr are different options
brilliant
 
user1804599
Well, I'll use a zip, not a tar.
 
9:59 AM
@melak47 yes!
 
user1804599
Tar isn't as widely supported.
 
user1804599
(FU WINDOWS)
 
Ell
user image
12
this is cute
 
Ven
and older than you
 
@slaphappy so why'd you turn on the option to use __fastcall :p
 
10:03 AM
@melak47 Where is it though? I can't find it on msdn.
 
user1804599
I like that RFCs are immutable.
 
@slaphappy that quote was from the __fastcall page, here are all the related flags: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/46t77ak2.aspx
 
it's at the /Gd entry xD
 
10:16 AM
Okay, I looked everywhere, no mention of /Gr
 
@MadameElyse Tar is supported by all major Windows archivers.
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Q: inline listings line wrapping issues

wilxI am having issues with inline listings line wrapping. As you can see in the linked image, the period ending the sentence is the next line due to wrapping of the cite-website text. The listings package decided to wrap the text even though the whole of it is on the first line. If the red hook-arro...

^ Any ideas?
 
How likely is someone randomly selected when her iCloud account, microsoft account and paypal account (different email address) were all tempted within 2-3 months time frame?
 
@Ell Lame. (Yes! I am salty!)
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper Tempted? Temptation of Christ?
 
@jaggedSpire I consider Discord a stillborn, only here pls
 
10:31 AM
@wilx received emails from microsoft & paypal warning me of suspicious activities
no money lost though
 
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper Are you sure it wasn't just you logging in from different places than usually?
 
I haven't logged in at all for the past few months.
unless I lost some memories that I could not recollect of ...
 
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper Maybe it was your alter ego, Hellkitty the Troll?
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper :D
Well, I use 2FA for most of my serious accounts.
 
11:03 AM
> America is one of the few countries that could get away with this, as being American has such a premium.
Yes
@sehe have you tried vivaldi
 
@HubertApplebaum well he is well into classical music
 
11:21 AM
Functions... pack into -> std::tuple<std::pair<int, std::tuple<Same_Arity_Functions...>>>
This is gonna be stupid fucking difficult. =/
@Morwenn constexpr sort when?
 
> Oil droplet rainbow
more like cel shading IRL
/cc @ElimGarak
 
oh man, the other day on way to work, saw ones of those epic cloud rainbows. It was so cool. This huge cloud with an amazing soft blend through the colours. I've seen photos before, but in person it's all the more impressive.
 
@HubertApplebaum Thanks for the Shovel Knight song.
JFC working at compile time is SO FUCKIN' SHITTY.
 
Then don't
 
11:36 AM
@ThePhD check out the related ones
 
11:56 AM
Ergh.
"A fix for this should be released in Update 2."
Fuck my existence.
4
 
@ThePhD Huh? tuple<pair<tuple..>>?
 
user1804599
@wilx but is it in .NET
 
@StackedCrooked I get a list of functions (no poly lambdas or templated ones). They have a fixed arity: 1, 3, 1, ... and so on. I need to organize them like so:
std::tuple<
    std::pair<1-arity, std::tuple<func_arity_of_1_a, func_arity_of_1_b>>,
    std::pair<3-arity, std::tuple<func_arity_of_3>>,
    std::pair<n-arity, std::tuple<func_arity_of_n, ...>>,
    ...
>
It's the most optimal packing scheme for searches later on, where instead of iterating through every single function I get, I instead go directly to arity n and then look through only those functions with an arity of n.
I would use std::array, but std::array isn't compile-time polymorphic in what I can put in it.
 
Are they function pointers?
 
No. They can be lambas/function objects.
Signature is not fixed, they can have wildly varying argument types and return types.
 
12:09 PM
You have a huge composite type now. Erasing some of the types might be useful I think.
If possible of course.
 
> // (C++14 constexpr functions may use local variables and loops)
RIP C++11 land.
 
implying VS has sane constexpr
not even GCC has sane constexpr
 
Bwuh.
I'll just bite the bullet and do the non-optimal linear search.
 
@ThePhD When MSVC can handle it.
@HubertApplebaum Yes, I'm trying to consider what falls under the term « search » before starting to code.
 
Xeo
12:25 PM
> Microsoft Visual Studio is waiting for an internal operation to complete.
Fuck you IntelliSense T_T
 
@Morwenn That's a "never", innit
 
yay it works
@HubertApplebaum @melak47 @Ven definitely was a codegen issue
 
Ven
ah, okay
 
@slaphappy What works
 
Ven
reported the bug?
 
12:28 PM
I removed an unrelated object return by value in the function and the bug goes away
I'm not going to bother reproducing thou
@Ven no, it's a 2005 bug.
 
Ven
@slaphappy link? :/
 
no link, I'm not reporting it xD
it's a 2005 bug. they're not going to bother
And I don't have the time, I lost almost a whole day to this
 
Ven
ah, by 2005 bug you mean it's been there since vs2005??
 
It's there in 2005. dunno about other versions
 
RIP Biicode
 
12:31 PM
is that RIP over RIP or did you just learn about it
 
They just announced that they would shut the servers down in 6 days.
Total RIP.
 
wow
I'm glad I didn't spend the time to learn about it like I thought I should
why is there a server in the first place though
I want cocoapods for c++
pls someone do this
this is the way to go
 
Cocowhat?
 
cocoapods
package manager for objective-c/ios
 
Conan is a thing, it does the same thing as Biicode, IIRC
 
12:39 PM
What did biicode even do, again?
 
it's the package manager that have the requirements that are closest to what c++ has: built binaries, several configs, include path hell, etc
@ThePhD npm/rubygems/nuget for c++
 
Snrk.
And their company failed?
Gee, what a surprise.
 
cocoapods had a smart and efficient model entirely based on ruby scripts and github repos, and it worked really really well
 
Ven
we use qibuild with ninja at $work
 
I mean has, but it has fallen behind now
qibuild?
> compilation of C++ projects made easy, using CMake as a backend
cmake is cancer
 
Ven
12:44 PM
we don't use the cmake backend, we use the ninja one
 
I swear to fucking god VAX went to shit in its latest implementations.
 
@ThePhD VAX?
 
@Ven you could generate cmake to produce a ninja file!
 
As in the old main frame or some such computer?
 
Visual Assist X, Intellisense Plugin for Visual Studio
It hangs everytime it parses a semi-complicated template, freezing my IDE for a good 5-20 seconds.
 
12:55 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь Any links to Conan?
 
About to disable the shit entirely.
 
Obviously
It's always <<new cool thing shortname>>.io
 
I should buy portfol.io...
but effort
FUCK I HAD FLOOD CONTROL
 
@thecoshman Annoying, isn't it? :)
 
@thecoshman Taken already.
 
12:59 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь Meh. They are not wining my heart if using conan means supporting one more build system.
 

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