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8:00 PM
plonk before he does any serious damage to your brian
 
shoots self
 
3v0
plenk
 
IRC #loungecpp freenode
Join the rebels
 
@OMGtechy picks up parts of brain
nom!
 
3v0
freenode is the stupidest place ever
 
8:00 PM
++knowledge
 
3v0
adran is gay, gry is gay, etc etc
rumpledelf is a tranny
 
@3v0 quite like everything related to you in any way shape or form
 
finally worked out what my CppCon talk is going to be; the dangers of C-style casts
because it turns out that people who really should know this don't
 
3v0
he doesnt even know if hes male or female and gives a different answer all the time
oh that was slick. not
lazyest comeback eva
 
can't we all just get along?
 
8:02 PM
@OMGtechy Quite a nice topic, indeed!
 
thanks :)
 
> A little bit of UB didn't hurt anybody
 
ahaha
 
^ read in actual codebase
 
is this Boost
 
8:03 PM
@unordered_meow Don't think so
I saw it on GH, not on SYForge
A library that used namespace posix
 
daym
 
I think it casted atomic<int> to int or sth
 
Wow! I have never used Reddit. It looks like is now just yet another evil corp.
 
@набиячлевэлиь wow that's reserved
 
@набиячлевэлиь ouchhhh
 
8:04 PM
@unordered_meow It is but that's not the point
 
ah right
I remember that one
 
Clearly we should all go and program in rust and be done with all our programs, but then people don't pay us lots of money to wrangle said problems ...
it's kinda like politics, they need shit to claim they're going to fix
 
I (of course) added a comment warning everyone, that even including the library in yyour project can erase your entire disk
 
it could also give you free ice cream
 
3v0
im making crystals using salt, air, ammonia, bleach, and baking soda
 
8:05 PM
I'm willing to take that risk
 
3v0
oh shit thats mustard gas, wrong page
 
I did that once but without the ammonia
didn't turn out well
 
Packing!
Wish me luck!
 
I hereby declare I am wishing you luck
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you going to that competition?
 
8:14 PM
Yes.
This weekend.
I'm competing with all those puzzles
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well then that would explain a little :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes how long have you had the 7x7x7 ?
 
A few months.
 
How do you learn the algos for the deviant forms in the first place... :|
Stupefied
 
I posted a pic here when I got it.
 
Yeah. I sorta remembered, but I thought that was a bit short to get comfortable solving it (in, say less than the duration of the competition as a whole)
So when I riffed about your job, I was merely noting you seemed to be cubing at the strangest hours :)
 
8:18 PM
@sehe there's four algorithm families: face-turners (classical cubes), corner-turners (the cube with a diagonal cuts in the pic, aka the Skewb), edge-turners (not depicted, google "helicopter cube"), and all the truly irregular (e.g. Square-1)
 
I figured you would have them all catalogued.
 
The pyramid and the skewb are corner-turners, so similar intuition applies and algos can be reused.
All others there are face-turners.
So it's kinda easy.
 
That sounds too sexy somehow
> she's a real face-turner
 
Speaking of which, ttyl, gf is here
 
:D Have fun
 
8:22 PM
( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Have fun with your guyfriend :)
 
@набиячлевэлиь i.imgur.com/EV4zNo5.png unknown work from Paul Klee discovered
 
@sehe That font is just bad
unless it supports MAN IN SUIT LEVITATING
 
It does not
 
@sehe Therefore, by the decision of The High Council, you shall change it to something better
 
8:25 PM
boohoo
"Dynamic typing": The belief that you can't explain to a computer why your code works, but you can keep track of it all in your head.
 
You need like 1.2k more rep, @sehe
 
I don't feel that need
 
You'll have 169k
 
Ah. 13²
 
Well, 10<sup>3</sup> times that but yeah
 
8:32 PM
Or did you have another significance? That's the average life expectance in 169 years
10³
 
I cannot into space HTML Dankmown
 
Use linux ":)
It's not md. It's UNICODE
 
I currently kind of am
sort of
It - surprisingly enough - works
And apache2 setup is simpel
So was sshd setup
It's nice, but I wouldn't choose use it exclusively
 
@sehe are you live streaming tonight?
 
As you might have noticed. No idea of the crops
 
8:35 PM
@TonyTheLion Not since the accident
 
...
 
wut
such cryptic
 
inf
the lounge is on irc now?
 
@набиячлевэлиь it'lll come
 
@inf yep
 
8:35 PM
@TonyTheLion just watch :)
 
@TonyTheLion You'd need to be there
 
inf
@TonyTheLion is it busy there?
 
@sehe <lennyfaec>
 
@inf yep
 
@набиячлевэлиь ?!
 
8:42 PM
@sehe Gugel it
 
user406009
@sehe There are cool things you can do with dynamic typing though.
 
user406009
See clojure's assoc-in and update-in.
 
user406009
(Haskell's lenses do similar things in a typed way, but they are significantly more complex)
 
@OMGtechy Hi.
 
8:50 PM
@Nooble hey :)
 
You've been gone for a long time.
 
I have indeed, been very busy and then remember this lovely place today
glad you remember me :D
 
You were one of the first people I talked to :)
 
:D
How've you been?
 
I'm doing great!
 
8:53 PM
what've you been working on?
 
Which Ubuntu version are you using, @sehe?
 
Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
 
> Does it work? No.

Why doesn't it work? I don't know.

Is it ever going to work? Maybe.
Best. FAQ. Ever.
 
@OMGtechy :P
 
man, 5 minute talks are tough
much tougher than a long talk aha
 
I think I've managed to get something useful though, if you're going to CppCon and don't know about the dangers of c-style casts, please attend :)
 
make a transcript
 
I just did a speed run off-the-cuff and got it in 4 minutes, so with some preparation I can make it even better.
 
3v0
im officially unemployed
 
@unordered_meow why?
@3v0 now you have more time to work on your own projects
 
9:09 PM
if not you, then make somebody else write it
 
3v0
this project will never be finished :(
 
not everybody wants to watch programming videos
 
3v0
I should just pay somebody 5000 to do it (freelance)
 
Ah, well I'm going to do a blog post that should fill that need :)
 
good :)
I have an aversion to watching programming videos, which is a shame because I feel I'm missing out on content
 
9:11 PM
Yeah, they mostly suck
 
why? because a.) I can't speed up or slow down reliably a programming video b.) I can scroll quickly a wall of text or use grep to find interesting fragments of books and blog entries, while I can't do the same to video
Jul 16 at 23:35, by milleniumbug
IOW the most valuable thing about programming videos are the transcripts so you can avoid watching the video
 
^ Since we haven't talked about Singletons for a week ;)
 
I'm single a ton
(of the time)
pls laffo at pun
 
I am single tonight.
I am the singleton knight.
 
Did your girlfriend leave you because you used a singleton?
 
9:15 PM
also wow 1h12min video
 
@unordered_meow fair enough :) I'll make sure it's nice and detailed just for you ;D
 
@fredoverflow puts a canteen of bootleg vodka on table
 
3v0
can I make an application that extracts dialog boxes as they would appear if windows opned them, from any DLL file
I mean including the buttons, icons, sliders, etc that may be in one
there is some apps on the net but they dont render them very well
 
Umm, why?
 
3v0
just something im interested in
 
9:17 PM
@OMGtechy Just plonk it already
 
@fredoverflow the audio of this video is quite bad, which makes listening tiring
 
@3v0 well, you'd need to know what parameters were passed etc
@набиячлевэлиь plonk?
 
3v0
yes
 
click on the profile -> select "ignore this user"
 
@3v0 so you can't do that without running the application
 
9:18 PM
@unordered_meow Agreed, but it's somewhat bearable with headphones. Aren't there audio filters for this kind of thing? "Reduce background noise" or whatever?
 
@unordered_meow oh right aha, I don't feel like that quiiiteee yet
 
@OMGtechy click on avatar -> ignore this user (everywhere)
@OMGtechy You do
You just don't know it yet
 
3v0
shame windows only suppots certain functions when entered in the run dialog.
 
@3v0 ?
@набиячлевэлиь thing is, can anyone deny a statement like that? :P
 
9:20 PM
@fredoverflow there probably are, which begs the question why should I have to do this :D Yeah, with enough good will everything's possible
 
3v0
you can tyoe some functions in such as
rundll32.exe Shell32.dll, SHExitWindowsEX 0
 
gonna try it
first gonna download the video
 
For example you can deny it when someone tells you you do - but don't yet know - you hate Gaem
You can't hate Gaem
 
@3v0 and?
 
3v0
but windows doesnt support this so much
 
9:21 PM
@набиячлевэлиь I just lost the gaem
@3v0 how do you plan on getting the function names in the first place?
 
@OMGtechy Message still failed to parse. Please try again.
 
3v0
theres an app which lists them all
and also websites
also searching the function in technet.microsoft.com gives moe info
but I suck at C (any sort of) so the only way is to pay somebody
 
in order to know what it's going to pass to the message dialogue, you must run the code to the point where it's about it display it, so, you may as well just let it display it
 
3v0
I use paint to white out data thats in input fields but only if its ultimatley entered by the user
its meant to be generic, but data that windows creates can stay and dont need whiting out
ive tried running it without passing anything, it looks ugly
http://oi57.tinypic.com/210165d.jpg
for example
the buttons dont do anything when clicked but thats fine
 
9:39 PM
You still have the problem I specified
 
@OMGtechy You still have a problem, too
You didn't plonk it
 
I know I know :P @набиячлевэлиь
 
Jul 12 at 1:18, by nabijaczleweli
Jun 20 at 13:15, by Borgleader
yesterday, by Borgleader
Jun 13 at 21:18, by sehe
Jul 6 '14 at 18:58, by Borgleader
@AaronKyleKilleen Public service announcement
 
3v0
how much does a freelance charge
 
I know this too, but it was the last message you posted so :P @набиячлевэлиь
 
9:42 PM
@OMGtechy My eyes
my eyes are bleeding
 
@3v0 you need something feasible before you can even think about that
 
plus you get fancy arrows
 
@набиячлевэлиь DEAL WITH IT
ooo arrows though
 
@OMGtechy With fancy arrows?
Not gonna
 
Did you just reinvent the close vote system? — Mysticial 25 secs ago
 
3v0
9:43 PM
theres a program called resource hacker but it often leaves out bitmaps and icons :/
other than that it works fine
 
ok, and have you worked out how much time needs to be spent on this?
Because as a freelancer I could charge you anything and you'd have no idea
 
3v0
yes, 9000 years
 
ok then well I don't think I'll live that long so I'm not your guy
 
3v0
I have a collection of screen shots of several, thats the idea, but finding them is hard
 
@Mysticial loooooooool
 
9:47 PM
@3v0 you know people who will live for 9000 years?
 
3v0
it would be useless passing paramaters because its all unimplemented in windows
I dont no
 
@OMGtechy Read Gluchovsky's FUTU.RE
They do
 
@набиячлевэлиь good to know :P
@3v0 then you have an impossible problem unless you find such people
 
3v0
damn, it
 
ikr, who'da thought that there aren't many people who live till they're 9000
nevermind start programming at birth
nevermind starting on your project at birth too with inate programming knowledge
 
3v0
9:50 PM
its not for me
 
10:13 PM
We will begin operations to move sites back to our New York data center in about 2.5 hours.
 
10:45 PM
that's what I get for posting an answer on meta
tons of notifications
 
404
 
@Puppy Yay for inconsistent URLs
 
Figured out stupid problem.
 
@Nooble What was it?
You? :G
 
10:53 PM
This is interesting, from Gang of Four author:
He basically says they didn't suggest starting with simple designs and adding design patterns as they became necessary because the waterfall project design methodology was popular and they didn't want to offend anyone (all my rephrasing).
 
sssssssh, don't speak too loud, you'll be heard
 
@unordered_meow I should post on meta more often to increase my notification counter.
 
@набиячлевэлиь Check the repo.
 
11:09 PM
 
@Nooble The A/C...it's gone! And this sound is so beautiful. (;_;)
 
aw sweet graphviz.org down/dossed to death?
@caps that sounds like a heap of rephrasing, to be honest. Lemme see whether that is a timed link
 
11:24 PM
@sehe It is.
 
So it is...
 
@ScottW These headphones are delicious
 
@jaggedSpire :D
@ScottW The ones we recommended.
 
@ScottW The audio-technica noise-cancelling ones
I can barely hear my A/C
indeed.
 
I need to finish my engine tomorrow.
 
11:29 PM
@sehe How would you phrase it?
 
@caps Wow. You didn't exaggerate
#GoF author Ralph E. Johnson: "We didn't want to offend" [the believers in #BDUF] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALxQdnOdYXQ&feature=youtu.be&t=57m19s #designpatterns WaTerFall?
 
@ScottW Still have a shit microphone, but sure
 
@caps paysiuns :)
Oh. I forgot the #loungecpp tag... I had room to spare
@ScottW you wanna buy a shit mic?
makes sense
If you kick it enough, it'll pass
yes; you never there when I lurk
 
@sehe clearly the solution to this is to increase the amount of time you spend lurking on mumble.
 
hi everyones
how the hell does one store a database connection details on a desktop application?
are there any "best practices" or "security guidelines" that I could read regarding the subject?
 
11:41 PM
I'm really not sure this is the best place for that.
I mean, I'm fairly certain we have no expert in that particular subject here.
But I could be wrong.
 
well .. my alternatives are php and javascript rooms
they don't do desktop apps (usually)
maybe you can recommend a better room for asking about this (c# room seems to do mostly web stuff these days)?
maybe I should just looks at how firefox does it .. should be "acceptable"
 
This is a C++ room. The only skill you can assume here is related to C++ development.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm not sure that's a valid assumption. :)
 
@Mysticial It's the least wrong assumption you could make about the Lounge ;)
 
Ell
Holy shit my phone is fucked
 
11:47 PM
Right now, I suppose you could also assume there are botanists present.
@Ell On a scale from 1 to nasal demons, how fucked are we talking?
 
Ell
Also I can't remember how to log into my PC
 
I thought that C++ room might actually know something about making desktop applications
I guess I was mistaken
 
Ell
@jagged we're talking anal demons
 
@Ell wow. Impressive.
My phone is only fucked enough to turn the screen white whenever I open it.
 
.. I tried
 
11:49 PM
And inhibit any and all input in that state.
It's never summoned demons
 
@tereško Please help me with OpenGL.
@tereško I am having trouble.
@tereško How is triangle formed?
4
 
@Nooble out of context star of shaaaame
 
@tereško I thought humans would know how to OpenGL.
@tereško I guess I was mistaken.
@tereško .. I didn't try at all.
 
@Nooble what happened to "time for sleep" eh?
 

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