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user1804599
1:00 PM
echo $- is the best password generator.
 
> (About Riyadh) Classified as having a hot desert climate (Köppen: BWh), temperatures during the summer months are extremely hot.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nope
 
> Record high °C 48 avg is 43.5
wtf
 
What I'm saying is that when both are available, cables always win
Sorry
You lose
802 times
 
and I thought our temps were bad :<
 
1:01 PM
@AlexM. Hire better ones
 
@CatPlusPlus you're not basing that with facts. That's just your opinion.
An opinion based on ignoring a lot of scenarios where cable disadvantages make them unpractical despite being available.
 
It's my experience
 
shall I introduce you to "Anectodal"?
 
Any inconvenience cables do is dwarfed by bad parts of WiFi
 
you keep repeating the same things, as if you weren't reading what I'm writing at all
 
1:02 PM
lol have fun making recommendations with no experience
I'm reading and I'm dismissing
Like /dev/null
 
your dismissals are based on the same assumptions I'm tackling in the first place
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, please. Are those hybrid duck-toads?
 
with a lot of devices setting up cables is more painful - why would you want a lot of devices
 
My dismissals are based on what I wrote above
No no
 
with a mobile device a cable is a hindrance - why would you want a mobile device
and so on.
 
1:04 PM
I'm saying that despite that it's painful, it's less painful than dealing with WiFi unreliability
 
Now, your personal opinion on that is fine.
But then again, a lot of people think totally otherwise
 
And similarly for that mobile device stuff (which is not very important if they don't have the option of cables)
 
because their needs are different
I am perfectly fine with you saying "I personally would always go through setting up cables ever"
what's not fine is saying "setting up cables always is best for everyone"
 
Eh needs are not equal and most people don't recognise what they need so this is extremely dumb
So yes I'll keep saying that
Anyway
 
people usually know what they need, they just don't know what they want
 
1:06 PM
So now you're putting yourself above the decision of every single person that chose wifi
 
there is a difference
 
with focus on chose
 
Oooh, telkitty chiming in. Now it gets good.
3
 
lol
Yes people who choose WiFi are dumb
If that's what you're looking for
 
and FWIW, while we're at anectodes, I drilled through walls in both of my apartments last time, and every LAN party we do has an ethernet setup
I also use ethernet for pretty much every device that has an ethernet port.
@CatPlusPlus Well, I'm trying to make you realize how unfair and perhaps self-centred those overgeneralizations are
 
1:09 PM
lol
 
you're putting a lot of people into one basket
that alone should ring some bells
 
I'll never understand your need to defend technology
 
@CatPlusPlus He'll never understand your need to attack technology.
 
user1804599
I should use SQLite more.
 
It's fun
 
1:10 PM
@sehe It definitely has a way to replay videos, but I don't know the details of that.
 
Also it makes my life worse
So I hate it
 
maybe that's the hate making your life worse
#sodeep
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess progress needs both types of people
or rather, both sides of the input
 
@CatPlusPlus You have a weird brand of technophobia.
You don't like the outdoors.
 
It's not a phobia
 
That's what a phobe would say :D
 
1:14 PM
I just have no patience left
No they wouldn't
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think that is related to technology
 
Can we start an attack on social media? I mean ISIS recruits westerners on social media ... I don't understand the fuss, not much advance in the real world because of it since myspace ... but hey it's now a multi-billion dollar industry, isn't this wonderful?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Now that's related to actual phobias
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's related to technophobia.
 
user1804599
peckers
 
1:15 PM
well technology taken outsides is still the same technology
 
how about we create technology to make people busier without making life better?
aren't human smart?
 
@CatPlusPlus btw "phobia is a fear or dislike" (emphasis mine)
 
If we're wikidiving then nothing described there applies
Now dislike of lack of quality
That'd be getting somewhere
 
@CatPlusPlus this contracts somewhat ironically with you laughing at expensive mobile phones
 
Not really
Cost doesn't imply quality
And there's plenty of lack of quality in mobile space
 
1:21 PM
I want to eat an unhealthy burger
 
of course not, but we have numerous examples where expensive mobile phones have better quality
 
I am going to go to mcdonalds and acquire said burger
 
like iPhones for example
their quality is pretty much excellent
 
then I will proceed to eaterate over it
 
As far as I'm concerned not having to deal with iOS or Android or whatever else is better enough quality
 
1:22 PM
newer versions of iOS are admittedly much worse from observation
with Android, it kind of shifted the crappiness
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh god, you're really good at this.
 
There's like literally one or two things that could be improved with a smartphone vs my Nokia and I'm just like meh whatever
Not worth it
 
What are you going to 'discuss' with the Cat next?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes combustion needs fuel
 
This not cookie clicker game is p fun
 
I thought you were going to admire how calm I were during this or something
@CatPlusPlus does it involve not clicking cookies?
 
user1804599
I like Cookie Pulveriser.
 
user1804599
> WASHINGTON—Calling it an unprecedented finding that fundamentally reshapes how humankind views its place in the universe, astronomers from NASA announced Wednesday the discovery of a planet that makes Earth look like absolute shit.
 
1:29 PM
I'd like to stop doing not-fun things
 
we all do
 
user1804599
> “There’s no way I’m going to keep exploring the galaxy if it’s just going to make me feel like a complete dipshit for ever believing that my planet was anything special.”
 
user1804599
lol
 
Borderlands bundle was great
 
user1804599
I want to make fossilhub.
 
1:32 PM
Nobody uses Fossil
 
good morning everyone
 
user1804599
SQLite does. :P
 
Yeah, explore the galaxy & bring back some deadly specie that could exterminate the whole human race does seem to be a pretty dumb idea ..
we humans don't like competition, we don't want to know this universe is full of more intelligent species
therefore let's collectively bury our ostrich heads in the sand and hoping social media solves all our problems
</sarcasm>
 
aaaah. it's too hot. the street is melting
my shoes are sticky with street goo now
 
All glory to asphaltoad
 
1:43 PM
@CatPlusPlus lol
@chmod711telkitty Wasn't that the other way around?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh not at all in a hurry
@R.MartinhoFernandes what's new?
 
@Jefffrey I am talking about the physical needs, like eat or sleep
your body tells you what you need
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes have you sorted out a place now then?
 
I need more DPS
 
Now sitting in Bristol Airport
 
1:48 PM
man, what was that rant about? wifi is good, but not?
 
Does anyone here use Visual Studio 2015 for production?
 
@Puppy I've been in worse.
 
VS2015 is still pre-release so that would be crazy
 
yeah mainly, I was testing it today, and instead of warnings I'm getting errors... error C2397: conversion from 'double' to 'float' requires a narrowing conversion
 
What's production, a miserable little pile of alerts
 
1:49 PM
so a complete no-go -,-
 
How can I group classes in UML? Can I put some of classes in a package, and other classes left without a package?
 
if anyone wants to edit a data tale with 1M+ entries and add 'f' to each one.. do it.
 
@Gizmo Your code sucks
 
@CatPlusPlus yours too
 
There are some warnings-as-errors but some are supposed to be errors
 
user1804599
1:50 PM
@QueueOverflow yes
 
@Puppy well GCC has it as a warning.. clang as error, VS2013 as warning, 2015 as error
ghhh, why can't they decide?!
 
Gizmo learn to deduplicate lol
 
Or to use a correct type
 
@thecoshman I think so. Will know for sure tomorrow.
 
@Gizmo have you thought about uh writing a program
 
1:52 PM
Could someone help me with some libstdc++-problems (regarding std::streambuf & std::ostream)? I think our product development environment is broken :x
 
Writing programs is not wise
 
Yeah, that why I write code
 
If only we had some way of performing boring repetitive tasks....
 
@BartekBanachewicz I can, I won't, if everyone who wants to add data has to take an extra step because VS2015 sucks, well let's stay at 2013
 
@gurka Please go to Stack Overflow and read the rules.
 
1:52 PM
@Gizmo That's not true.
 
@Puppy Hiring employees
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have proof.
 
@Gizmo that's not VS fault
C++11 forbids narrowing conversions
 
user1804599
@gurka C++ development environments are always broken.
 
if you're passing noncompliant code and then being angry at the compiler for rejecting it, you plainly suck
 
1:54 PM
@BartekBanachewicz this code is 4 years old.
worked always
 
C++11 is 4 years old
 
@Gizmo who cares?
 
You better compile with -Werror anyway
or else!
 
That means its been broken for 4 years
 
@BartekBanachewicz The guy is lucky, half the time non-compliant code will compile and then crash at random places. In particular mixing debug and release across MSVC versions.
 
1:54 PM
^
@Gizmo doesn't mean it was good
 
Maybe I should write some silly game in jabbascript
Or something that compiles to jabbascript
 
@Jefffrey yeah then it won'rt compile because others people (libraries) "suck too".
 
jabbaclojure
 
every major library has warnings
 
VS2015 is just helping you with it
 
1:55 PM
@CatPlusPlus the guy who wrote cookie clicker made an SDK for idle games
 
@Gizmo Don't use libraries that suck
 
snakejure
 
You can turn off warnings from other headers
 
Try PureScript
PureJabba
 
@rightfold Is it right diagram? 3.1m.yt/BIuBfVr9C.png It's a draft, I asked about the fact, that external classes are connected with classes in a package
 
1:55 PM
Jabkell
 
Has hell
 
Jabba Wars 2
 
I need to do something else than this project or I'll go insane
 
TypeJabba?
 
1:56 PM
How I met your Jabba
 
@CatPlusPlus You mean more than usual?
 
be swell
 
But there's no time and there's still 24 models to go through for import aaaaaaaa
 
let's just immediately spit out errors for ALL conversions, yes?
 
No Jabba for Old Men
 
1:57 PM
C++ world would go to hell.
 
Back to the Jabba
 
Yes the narrowing thing is a breaking change in C++11
 
ITT: Slippery slope fallacy
 
Welcome to 4 years ago
 
Jabba the Script
 
1:57 PM
Jabbascript Park : The Lost World
 
Should I mark interfaces in a package by the special word on their top?
 
Finding Jabba
 
@Gizmo it's not any conversion, it's a narrowing conversion
 
Jabba strip
 
@BartekBanachewicz still plenty of warnings for other narrowing conversions, just error for double -> float?
 
1:59 PM
NEED MORE DEEPS
 
Today I discovered that I am full of shit- literally, did two massive dumps
 
@Gizmo It's not the only narrowing conversion no
 
> just
@Puppy So you were
 
Gizmo: Depends on context
 
@Gizmo A compliant C++ (> 11) compiler will reject every narrowing conversion
 
1:59 PM
Saving private Jabba
 
I don't think it's every
 
I thought that was only in init lists
 
Those things had some more complicated rules
 

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