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Ell
12:00 AM
@AlexM. Night bud
 
Oh yeah I've heard of Pawnguy!
Long gone from the lounge though IIRC.
 
Yes
 
Whut. I just posted this Spirit optimization answer
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A: Splitting string using boost spirit

seheFirst off, the different versions do not do the same thing: in particular token compression behaves differently (I fixed it for boost::split but it doesn't appear to be a feature for boost::tokenizer) separators were treated as string literals rather than charsets in the Spirit version (fixed t...

Immediately the question received a downvote. I don't understand this
 
@Xeo Edmund is asking for opinions on The Lost and what buff to get. He might get D6 + Spectral.
 
The question wasn't bad. I thought it was interesting
 
12:05 AM
@sehe I freaking love those Live on Coliru buttons...
 
I love Coliru
 
So do I.
 
haven't we seen that like 3-4 times?
 
lol yeah
 
12:07 AM
@Xeo Well, the C++ equivalent is UB if you do it naively. Rust catches you before you reach that point.
 
@sehe Nice hidden message.
 
Ooooold. I did come up with it though. I should have linked it to http://coliru.stacked-crooked.com/?plink=@StackedCrooked
 
worst part about upgrading GCC is rebuilding everything
such a drag
 
Ell
What must you rebuild?
 
everything
 
Ell
12:10 AM
(Besides GCC obviously)
I swear I didn't have to rebuild everything
 
@Ell I start with Boost.
 
5.1 is ABI breaking
 
Ell
Oh yeah of course
 
ABI?
 
Application Binary Interface
 
12:12 AM
I built boost already at least
at least that only takes 5 minutes
 
Ell
Only 1 more character to unlock on crossy road
@Rapptz do you do it manually?
Or are you on gentoo or sthng?
 
windows atm
but yeah I build all libraries manually
 
Ell
I think I'm gonna go gentoo at uni
 
Gentoo is nice. According to rightfold anyway.
 
Ell
Package management and init are my main interests in a distro
I guess there ain't much else to it
I'd probably use systemd
 
12:21 AM
@sehe Old?
 
Old
 
Old.
 
Good morning, Loungers!
 
Cicada?
 
I haven't met him.
I am not sure where he is lol.
 
12:23 AM
Morning Nooble, Ell, Rapptz, sehe, Cicada
 
(ㅡ__ㅡ)
 
Nov 13 '12 at 0:58, by sehe
@MartinJames How could you miss the opportunity to plink when you mentioned him?
Can't find when I introduced it though
 
Ell
Ah boy
 
@Nooble found it (follow the link, it links to the first time I used it)
 
Ell
I've lost revision steam at a critical point
 
12:25 AM
Nov 9 '12 at 20:47, by sehe
@Xeo Another innovation by yours truly, today: /cc @TonyTheLion
 
Ell
My exams are like one month away
I can't affort to stop now
I'm getting my ass back in gear tomorrow
 
12:44 AM
@sehe jeez, dat performance gain
 
Not surprising, really
I'm actually more surprised the OP didn't care about the differences in behaviour. Or why he wants it in vector<string>
 
good morning mentlegen
@Dean My ktalk is locked :w
 
@sehe If I want to add a cryptoswap partition in the unused area of my hdd, i can do that while ubuntu is running right? I'm guessing it'll detect and use it next time I boot?
 
Yeah, no problem. "It'll detect and use it" depends (what will you mount it as?)
 
Well right now everytime i boot theres a message about not having a cryptoswap so it makes one everytime, so I thought I'd just allocate one? (since I have free space)
 
12:51 AM
@Cicada It's cool man.
How was your trip?
 
@Cicada lemme slap u a lil
 
@DeanSeo It says "please confirm your number". If I put my HK sim card it will delete all chats. And my french sim card can't receive SMS here ;_; I'm stuck
@DeanSeo I'm going there on friday lol
 
@Cicada Oh, so you haven't come here yet?
 
No
 
By Friday you mean tomorrow?
 
12:53 AM
Oh it's thursday already omg
 
Yeah better pack -some condoms- just things
Lol.
 
And a barrel of lube
 
Ok I don't know how to line in between.
Should follow the Wiki syntax
 
@sehe Oh wait, I have a swap partition, maybe I just need to encrypt it?
 
@DeanSeo ---Triple dash---
 
12:56 AM
@Cicada Got it. Thx.
 
@Borgleader huh. What is the goal
 
So, uuuuh, if I unlock kakao I lose all my chats, should I? ;_;
 
user3010322
"all my chats"
 
user3010322
What are all your chats?
 
@sehe SHorten my boot times?
 
12:58 AM
@ThePhD Chat history
 
I want to avoid this cryptswap step that it does all the time
 
@Borgleader Shorten your boot times with this one weird trick! Windows hates it!
 
@ThePhD HOLY SHIT YOURE ALIVE
 
user3010322
Just store it somewhere! \o/
 
@Cicada Why don't you put your old SIM back in first? Then you can make your backup history.
SIM? CIM?
 
user3010322
12:58 AM
@Borgleader I am! And so are you!
 
@DeanSeo It is still asking me to send a confirmation SMS on that one
 
user3010322
How's the commute with that laptop?
 
retarded piece of non-engineering
 
who cares about my number i registered by mail
 
12:59 AM
@Cicada If you have the same SIM card with your phone, I am pretty sure 50% sure Kakao will automatically sync.
 
desert weather, I love it!
 
@ThePhD More productive than it used to be. :)
 
how on earth would encrypting swap shorten boot times?
The mind boggles
 
@DeanSeo I'll try again but I don't think so
 
@sehe Well like I said, it seemed to me that every time I boot it has to create one (the message says something about it not being present) so I assumed if I made one it would be available and thus I would boot faster
 
1:01 AM
"make one"? One cuckoo? One what?!
Swap makes systems slower. Full stop.
 
@sehe An encrypted swap, let me reboot I'll give you the exact message
 
And encryption has nothing to do with it (except encryption also makes systems slower by definition)
 
@sehe NEVER GENERALIZE.
 
Maths be truthy
 
@DeanSeo still asking to confirm my num =.=
 
1:02 AM
@Cicada What the....
 
meh
 
Wait
 
I'll just lose all chat history then
rip
 
@Cicada I think you just need to confirm it with the same SIM card in your phone.
That'll make Kakao sync automatically.
 
But I can't. Because the SIM I registered with is French. And it doesn't work here.
 
1:04 AM
if you have sync-ed your phone on your computer, you might be able to retrieve the chat history
 
@Cicada Ah now I get it. Well, then I guess time to start Fresh Kakao...
 
@sehe > the disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present
this is what i get every time
 
A wise man once said, "fuck this retarded piece of shit".
 
+1
 
@Borgleader I'd google that. It's probably by design
 
user3010322
1:05 AM
@Borgleader Very nice!~ How's work been going? Hows your various interests been shaping up lately?
 
In the shape of a dick
 
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A: What to do about "the disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present"?

Eliah KaganThis error message indicates that the the system was unable to use its encrypted swap partition. If you don't believe you have an encrypted swap partition (or encrypted swap file), please comment and edit your question with details. Not being able to use swap may cause slowdown, especially if yo...

It's been discussed
 
@ThePhD Work is great, progress on various projects is slow due to tiredness
 
Imma have some caffein fix up stairs..
 
> A blind Google engineer explains how he writes code
explains everything
 
1:08 AM
@sehe right but I did attempt to make a swap partition its probably just not being used so I'll look into enabling it properly
 
user3010322
WOOOOO
 
user3010322
I finally got it to behave properly.
 
user3010322
text_view woof = "Arf arf arf";
auto bark = woof.substr(4); // "arf arf", type is `text_view`
 
why not string_view though
 
@Cicada Making fun of the blind again?
 
1:13 AM
I don't see what you're talking about.
 
user3010322
text_view<buffer_view<char>> woof2 = "arf arf";
auto bark2 = woof2.substr(4): // "arf", type is `text_view<buffer_view<char>>`
// doesn't compile: buffer_view has no c_str
// const char* bark2cstr = bark2.c_str();
const char* barkcstr = bark.c_str(); // compiles!
 
user3010322
IT'S SO PRETTY.
 
user3010322
And if you're just using plain owning strings,
 
user3010322
text woof3 = "copied and owned";
auto bark3 = woof3.substr(11); // "owned", type is `text_view`
 
user3010322
Which is SO NICE.
 
user3010322
1:18 AM
It's a bit strange though to have substr return a view rather than a new string.
 
user3010322
But I quite like it.
 
@ThePhD Does the text type support implicit casting to a new string?
text bark3 = woof3.substr(n); // Compile?
 
user3010322
@DeanSeo Yes.
 
Good.
 
user3010322
It assumes if you do that you want to create a new string.
 
user3010322
1:23 AM
Of course, this is all ranges, so std::string bark4 = woof3.substr(n); won't compile
 
user3010322
But you can make it compile by doing std::string bark4( bark3.begin().base(), bark3.end().base() ); or something
 
Ahh..
(^__^)b
 
i thought @ThePhD was making his own language for a second :C
just c++ :(
 
user3010322
Nah.
 
user3010322
New languages are hard, yo.
 
1:27 AM
my swap didnt survive a reboot
> I was confronted with this bug simply because I checked "Encrypt home folders" during a fresh installation of Ubuntu LTS 14.04 . [...] However, why not leave users then with at least a working unencrypted swap, instead of a non-functional encrypted swap? After all, during installation I checked for encrypting /home, not swap. Furthermore, the risks involved with a plain, unencrypted swap are very limited.
 
>2015
>using swap
 
Ell
Wots wrong with swop
 
swop swop motherfucker
 
and why would you encrypt swap anyway
 
because your working memory can contain sensitive data, just like your disk
for example if you're editing some sensitive document
 
1:37 AM
what does encrypting swap protect against, exactly
 
a hybernating computer being compromised
 
Ell
Swasps
 
compromised how
 
confiscated by police, gangsters, dno
 
it's hibernating
 
Ell
1:38 AM
They fly by and steal sensitive data from your swap and take it to the nest for the Queen to read
 
@orlp lol
 
compromised in the same model you'd protect against with full-disk encryption
 
if the police is interested in your disk then you have serious issues
 
not necessarily
 
yeah they can casually pick disks like that
 
1:40 AM
tons of scandals where police are just criminals
 
not in developed countries
 
Ell
They pretty much can
 
do you consider the USA developed?
 
Ell
To a business at least
 
@orlp no
 
Ell
1:40 AM
No country is developed
 
it's rich and retarded
 
Ell
Apart from paypall island
 
either way
 
USA is the Emirates of the west
 
whether or not you think full disk encryption is useful is another thing
 
Ell
1:41 AM
I dont like the NSA
 
but whenever you'd consider full disk encryption you'd also want to encrypt your swap
 
Ell
Or GCHQ
They make me uncomfortable
 
move to a free country then
China, Russia, wherever
 
russia
lol
china
 
Ell
I will eventually
 
1:42 AM
lol
 
Ell
Hong kong
Or Singapore
 
Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, etc
 
is there a assembly to c converter online?
 
Ell
Switzerland proba
 
that's where you want to be
 
Ell
1:42 AM
Probs
Sweden is too socialist for me
 
@DemCodeLines That's a decompiler and no
 
@Ell then switzerland is for you
 
lol "too socialist"
silly merkins
 
socialism is great though
 
Ell
I'm not a merkin
How dare you :P
 
1:44 AM
i am tired of pseudo political discussions can we move to something less constructive
 
Good night ladies
 
night Jeff
 
Ell
@Jefffrey night pal
 
@Jefffrey and ladyboys
 
@Jefffrey Sleep tight
 
1:44 AM
 
Sometimes western jokes are difficult to understand.
 
Ell
Don't worry
 
Jokes about western movies?
 
Ell
I dont understand that either
 
@orlp A gentle explanation is needed.
 
1:47 AM
@DemCodeLines yes. It would be fun to watch you struggle with one. I've used PIDA ("evaluation") and OllyDbg (free)
 
@DeanSeo Humor varies a lot from country to country.
 
Ell
I think I'd prefer Norway to Sweden anyway
 
it's just absurdist humor
 
good luck getting into norway
also they are socialist as fuck according to you
:)
 
1:48 AM
@Cicada still easier than switzerland
 
Ell
@Cicada if I had to choose though
 
@Cicada as far as i'm aware, every civilized country besides the US is
 
Ahh.
 
@Ell well, if you could choose anywhere in the world, where would you go?
 
Like tight to tite, and Code to kode?
 
1:49 AM
More like "interesting" to "rad"
 
>US
>civilized country
 
@Cicada in this case i agree
 
:chuckle:
 
guys wanna hear a joke I figured out recently?
I have US/Dutch dual citizenship
 
Unanymous no
 
1:50 AM
guess what country is the only country in the world that taxes citizens not living inside the country?
 
Cambodia?
 
US
 
@orlp wtf
 
Ooooooh I didn't knoooooooooooowwwww
I couldve sworn it was cambodia!!!!
 
Ell
@orlp not sure. Maybe Liechtenstein or somewhere such :P
Nah I really have no clue
Not the US though
That places scares me
England is where I live but it's full of chavs
 
1:53 AM
I don't understand why some people like capitalism
it's "survival of the fittest", totally uncivilized
 
Ell
What do you suggest?
As an alternative
 
socialism
 
Ell
Communism?
 
Capitalism is very good at optimizing a lot of things
Too bad it's not the most important ones
 
Communism would be ideal
but it doesn't work with the human psyche
 
Ell
1:54 AM
I'm not gonna get into this
Its 3 in the morning
 
so you need communism that remains a meritocracy - which is socialism
 
@Ell Plus it’s a socialist ploy to get you!
 
Ell
I don't know how you can think communism is a good idea :P
 
I too can spew nonsense with reasonable amounts of effort
 
Ell
Private property rights are groovy baby
@LucDanton heh
@orlp who do you think should survive?
(If not the fittest)
 
1:56 AM
@Ell everyone
 
Ell
Everyone?
 
duh
 
Ell
Even the ones that do not contribute in any way?
 
@Cicada reaonable is a highly subjective notion
 
@Ell yes, that's called a civilized society
@Ell otherwise we might as well shoot the retarded, the dementing and the sick
 
1:57 AM
@sehe read: very low
 
@orlp whoa. I had no idea
 
Ell
@orlp out of interest, may I ask if you have any disposable income?
(I'm not asking how much)
If so, do you give it all to charity?
And if not, why not?
 
I buy a meal to the homeless of HK from time to time
 
@Ell no, I would give most of it away if I did
 
I'm always amazed/scared by the difference in riches in this city.
 
1:59 AM
if everyone contributed we could solve world poverty in the next 5 years
 
Ell
@orlp why do you think people do not contribute?
Do you think it is because they believe people don't deserve the money?
 
@Ell because the system funnels money from the 99% to the 1% - most people do not have much dispensable income
 
Ell
I don't know which system you talk about BTW, are we talking US?
 
also people are uneducated, are not aware, are brainwashed into thinking that their drop in the bucket doesn't matter
 
Ell
I only know England :3
 
2:01 AM
It's OK global warming will bring equality upon all
 
Ell
So you think that most people don't give because they can't?
But those that can give don't because they don't care?
 
being rich correlates negatively with being generous
 
@Ell I think that most people don't give because they live in a system that shields them from the people they gravely abuse.
western governments have drained poorer regions in the world immensely, and set up immigration laws to shield themselves from facing the consequences
 
@Cicada In relative terms :)
 
Ell
@Cicada well duh. How do you think they became rich? ;)
I kid
 
2:04 AM
I personally am against 'countries', we're all humans living on this planet.
 
Ell
Well it is true that you don't get rich by giving money away
@orlp I am against states
 
I am against saturated fats
 
Ell
@orlp If you worked 8 hours a day, 340 days a year
And I worked 0
 
You see, we're rapidly approaching a world where no one has to work anymore
 
Ell
Are we both "entitled" to the same standard of living?
 
2:06 AM
@LucDanton Is it?
 
I think everyone is entitled to a base standard of living - regardless of what you do. On top of that I still think a meritocracy is useful: if you work you can earn more and purchase more.
But I don't believe in getting super rich.
No one is worth 100x more than someone else.
 
@Cicada I actually don't know in the absolute.
 
@orlp I am
 
Ell
Earning more and purchasing more is capitalism, is it not?
 
Consumerism
 
2:08 AM
No, it implies a market.
 
Ell
Providing a base standard of living can be achieved through charity or if necessary taxes
 
@Ell More to do with consumerism.
 
I never said it was a fully free market.
 
Ell
Oh I see
What is your issue with the free market?
 
It's non-free
Only a GNU market would be truly free.
 
2:09 AM
@Ell It has proven time and time again it's a myth that only makes the rich richer.
 
Ell
Just as Marxism has been proven time and the again to fail...
I don't believe a truly free market just makes the rich richer
Anyway
I need to sleep
Also I dont agree that its been proven to be a myth
 
@Ell Monopolies? Oligarchy? Investment returns? Insider trading? Countless upon countless examples.
 
Je vais déménager dans le Larzac et élever des chèvres.
 
@Ell Marxism was never implemented.
 
Prends des gnous aussi.
 
Ell
2:12 AM
I don't know what an oligarchy is
 
Lounge<Politics>
 
Ell
But monopolies tend to occur with help from the state
 
@Ell Power from oil.
 
Ell
Seriisly though I ha e to sleep
 
@LucDanton lol
I'm stealing that one
 
Ell
2:13 AM
I can talk this another time
 
@Ell Monopolies tend to occur despite best efforts by the state.
 
Ell
Night everyone
 
Monopolies are a natural result of a free market.
Big players can very easily outgun any competitors.
 
Ell
@orlp we will have to continue another time :)
 
@Ell Sure.
 

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